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Novak Djokovic is a one dimensional hardcourter

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 05:20 PM
For all the fawning and dick sucking of Nole this year and some of last year, he has proven nothing but to be a hardcourter who fails against the big boys on clay and grass.

Its funny. When a player like Djokovic wins a hardcourt slam, for some reason he is projected to do well on all surfaces? But when someone like Nadal wins on clay, no one predicts him to win on other surfaces? Another example of the hardcourt bias in tennis, but thats for another thread.

The point is that if Nadal is just a claycourter with all his non-clay results, then how the fuck is Djokovic an "all-surface" player? :rolleyes:

Djokovic has lost 3 straight times to Nadal and the only clay thing he won was when he had a mug draw and didn't beat anyone in the top 20. Whenever he played Fed or Nadal, he LOST.

Djokovic is nothing but a hardcourter.

GlennMirnyi
06-16-2008, 05:23 PM
Fakervic is nothing but a Faking arrogant prick grinder. What's new?

Branimir
06-16-2008, 05:24 PM
For fuck sake.

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 05:26 PM
For fuck sake.

Your lack of counter-argument implies that you agree

bokehlicious
06-16-2008, 05:26 PM
Nice thread Jon :)

ASP0315
06-16-2008, 05:28 PM
Fakervic is nothing but a Faking arrogant prick grinder. What's new?

exactly.

KitinovRules
06-16-2008, 05:39 PM
Well, the guy had obviously two great years , but I still really do not consider him as a player beeing capable of winning multiple slams.
He has quickly came to the top and I think that he will drop also very quickly.
It may not happen this year, but I am sure it will happen in the next two years.

The crisis must come in a part of his tennis career, and I am not sure that he is capable of handling it quite well.

Once Murrays, Gasquets, Verdascos and others, learn how to beat him, he will fall down and remain to the rankings which I find appropriate for him and his game/talent. That is 20-30 on a ATP list.

Bernard Black
06-16-2008, 05:39 PM
Bit harsh considering his good grass and clay record. Though it can be argued his success on these surfaces is due to a lack of good grass and clay specialists in this era, but that makes his hardcourt achievements more laudable surely.

KitinovRules
06-16-2008, 05:41 PM
F

Djokovic has lost 3 straight times to Nadal and the only clay thing he won was when he had a mug draw and didn't beat anyone in the top 20. Whenever he played Fed or Nadal, he LOST.


Do you know that the Faker hasn't beat anyone inside top10 on clay except Robredo ?

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 05:42 PM
Bit harsh considering his good grass and clay record. Though it can be argued his success on these surfaces is due to a lack of good grass and clay specialists in this era, but that makes his hardcourt achievements more laudable surely.

Why the double standards though? Nadal has won 3 TMS on hardcourts, just won Quenns, and reached the QF of USO and SF of AO, more than Djokovic has done on clay or grass, and yet Djokovic is the one considered the "all-court" player? :rolleyes:

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 05:43 PM
Do you know that the Faker hasn't beat anyone inside top10 on clay except Robredo ?

Making my point for me :yeah:

Clay Death
06-16-2008, 05:43 PM
For all the fawning and dick sucking of Nole this year and some of last year, he has proven nothing but to be a hardcourter who fails against the big boys on clay and grass.

Its funny. When a player like Djokovic wins a hardcourt slam, for some reason he is projected to do well on all surfaces? But when someone like Nadal wins on clay, no one predicts him to win on other surfaces? Another example of the hardcourt bias in tennis, but thats for another thread.

The point is that if Nadal is just a claycourter with all his non-clay results, then how the fuck is Djokovic an "all-surface" player? :rolleyes:

Djokovic has lost 3 straight times to Nadal and the only clay thing he won was when he had a mug draw and didn't beat anyone in the top 20. Whenever he played Fed or Nadal, he LOST.

Djokovic is nothing but a hardcourter.

evidently making the semis of last 5 slams (that means all surfaces) he has played means nothing to you.

the guy just turned 21. why be so hasty in handing out death sentences. do you not see that he can play on any surface and he is closing in on #2.

now i am not a djokovic fan but i do see considerable potential and a tremendous game for somebody barely 21.

who else is bold enough and confident enough to want to bring the fight to Fed and Nadal?

he has beaten Fed at a slam semi and he has beaten Nadal at least 3 times. how many players coming up can boast that?

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 05:47 PM
evidently making the semis of last 5 slams (that means all surfaces) he has played means nothing to you.

the guy just turned 21. why be so hasty in handing out death sentences. do you not see that he can play on any surface and he is closing in on #2.

now i am not a djokovic fan but i do see considerable potential and a tremendous game for somebody barely 21.

So i can't say he is overrated but you can praise him to the moon? Bullshit.

He is not as good off hard courts as people like to think.

who else is bold enough and confident enough to want to bring the fight to Fed and Nadal?

What does that matter? he is 3-9 against Nadal and 2-6 against Fed, and has lost his last 4 matches against them :wavey:

Bibberz
06-16-2008, 05:47 PM
I won't believe Djokovic is one-dimensional unless Federer verifies it.

bokehlicious
06-16-2008, 05:48 PM
...
he has beaten Fed at a slam semi and he has beaten Nadal at least 3 times. how many players coming up can boast that?

Safin managed to do that, proof that's not that a big deal... :shrug: :o :p

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 05:48 PM
He is one of the few players EVER to reach 5 SF grand slams in a row.
He has only turned up 21 and his record is unbeliveable !

Past record versus Nadal and Fed are not that important coz half of them is when he was just a teenager !
So yes, he is just amazing !

He's lost 4 times in a row to them in the last few months, was he a teenager then? :retard:

Petrovic
06-16-2008, 05:48 PM
He is one of the few players EVER to reach 5 SF grand slams in a row.
He has only turned up 21 and his record is unbeliveable !

Past record versus Nadal and Fed are not that important coz half of them is when he was just a teenager !
So yes, he is just amazing !

Forehander
06-16-2008, 05:50 PM
Djokovic's confidence level has dropped quite a considerable amount I must say. Nadal's confidence is rising and I can see improvement in his game. Hope he keeps up the aggressiveness in hardcourt.

GlennMirnyi
06-16-2008, 05:55 PM
Fakervic = mr. SF.

Also one of the clowns Federer draws in his SF matches, according to Laika.

MIMIC
06-16-2008, 06:00 PM
Best Grand Slam results head-to-head:

Australian Open

Djokovic: Winner
Nadal: Semi-finals

French Open

Djokovic: Semi-finals
Nadal: Winner

Wimbledon

Djokovic: Semi-finals
Nadal: Finals

U.S. Open

Djokovic: Finals
Nadal: Quarter-Finals

Now if we assign point values to each finish (Winner = 4, Finalist = 3, Semi-Finalist = 2, & Quarter-Finalist = 1)

Djokovic: 4 + 2 + 2 + 3 = 11
Nadal: 2 + 4 + 3 + 1 = 10


Comparatively speaking, Djokovic is the better man when you factor in ALL of the surfaces.

lalit
06-16-2008, 06:00 PM
Why the double standards though? Nadal has won 3 TMS on hardcourts, just won Quenns, and reached the QF of USO and SF of AO, more than Djokovic has done on clay or grass, and yet Djokovic is the one considered the "all-court" player? :rolleyes:
his last 4 slam results are SF F W SF

just as good if not better than nadal
nadal federer and djokovic are all 3 prime favorites to win wimbledon

arm
06-16-2008, 06:02 PM
:lol::haha:

Yeah, semi-finals in both Wimby and RG... He sucks.

rocketassist
06-16-2008, 06:05 PM
Best Grand Slam results head-to-head:

Australian Open

Djokovic: Winner
Nadal: Semi-finals

French Open

Djokovic: Semi-finals
Nadal: Winner

Wimbledon

Djokovic: Semi-finals
Nadal: Finals

U.S. Open

Djokovic: Finals
Nadal: Quarter-Finals

Now if we assign point values to each finish (Winner = 4, Finalist = 3, Semi-Finalist = 2, & Quarter-Finalist = 1)

Djokovic: 4 + 2 + 2 + 3 = 11
Nadal: 2 + 4 + 3 + 1 = 10


Comparatively speaking, Djokovic is the better man when you factor in ALL of the surfaces.

Which one of them has won the DC? Who has more TMS titles? There are two hardcourt slams, so of course he's going to be slightly ahead.

Nadal > Fakervic. :)

Clay Death
06-16-2008, 06:07 PM
So i can't say he is overrated but you can praise him to the moon? Bullshit.

He is not as good off hard courts as people like to think.



What does that matter? he is 3-9 against Nadal and 2-6 against Fed, and has lost his last 4 matches against them :wavey:


you are obviously entitled to your opinion but its not just the posters here who are saying that he has huge upside at his current rate of improvement.

its also guys like Borg, Mac, P Mac, Rusedski, Killer Cahill and countless others who are saying that Djokovic is a serious all surface threat.

that said, this does not mean that he will have more slams than Fed or that he will be able to beat the Clay Monster on clay. that is simply not going to happen. we dont know how durable he is just yet. we also dont know about his motivation, drive and focus. its not easy to be motivated for as long as Fed has been motivated for instance. Fed is also lucky to have not sustained any serious injuries.

his game is efficient and he appears to be on the right track to be #1. i can see that happening. he doesnt really have to beat Nadal on clay or even grass to be #1. remember that Clay Monster may be the greatest clay court player ever lived. so far, it has been impossible to beat him at Roland Garros. he is 28-0 there and 41-0 in best of 5 sets matches on clay.

he does have to take away Fed`s slams on hard courts and take a few additional hard court titles. that will do it.

GlennMirnyi
06-16-2008, 06:07 PM
Nadal's problem is that being a moonballer he can't do well in the USO. Too fast for moonballing.

JediFed
06-16-2008, 06:08 PM
Do you know that the Faker hasn't beat anyone inside top10 on clay except Robredo ?


He beat Robredo?

Obviously a GOAT.

bokehlicious
06-16-2008, 06:09 PM
he does have to take away Fed`s slams on hard courts and take a few additional hard court titles. that will do it.

Piece of cake :yeah: :)

arm
06-16-2008, 06:09 PM
You are all so amazingly ridiculous. :lol:

Really, the guy has achieved so much and now he is only a Hard Court player? :lol: :worship:

One thing is saying that Nadal is a better player than him. It's questionable, but understandable.

But saying he is a "one dimensional hardcourter" is just pathetic.

Hey Blaze, you keep talking about CD's threads. Oh yeah, yours are much better and reasonable than his. :worship::yeah:

mikkemus23
06-16-2008, 06:12 PM
:help:

pointless thread - just as calling Nadal just a claycourter is..

Sunset of Age
06-16-2008, 06:13 PM
Piece of cake :yeah: :)

:haha:

Fantastic thread Jon. :yeah:

MIMIC
06-16-2008, 06:13 PM
Safin managed to do that, proof that's not that a big deal... :shrug: :o :p

WTF are you talking about? Safin is a former #1.

l_mac
06-16-2008, 06:14 PM
You are all so amazingly ridiculous. :lol:

Really, the guy has achieved so much and now he is only a Hard Court player? :lol: :worship:

One thing is saying that Nadal is a better player than him. It's questionable, but understandable.

But saying he is a "one dimensional hardcourter" is just pathetic.

Hey Blaze, you keep talking about CD's threads. Oh yeah, yours are much better and reasonable than his. :worship::yeah:

Oh dear.

This is a clear trolling thread, though Blaze does have a fair point in his OP.

I think it would be misguided of Djokovic fans to suggest that he is an all surface specialist. He is a great player, with a game tailor made to succeed on the medium paced hardcourts that make up so much of today's tour. But he plays the same way on all surfaces. He isn't a great clay or grass court player but because he is so very, very good at what he does, and because he has fantastic mentality and consistency, he can win a lot of matches on those surfaces. Of the Top 3, he makes the least adjustments to his game from surface to surface.

arm
06-16-2008, 06:18 PM
Oh dear.

This is a clear trolling thread, though Blaze does have a fair point in his OP.

I think it would be misguided of Djokovic fans to suggest that he is an all surface specialist. He is a great player, with a game tailor made to succeed on the medium paced hardcourts that make up so much of today's tour. But he plays the same way on all surfaces. He isn't a great clay or grass court player but because he is so very, very good at what he does, and because he has fantastic mentality and consistency, he can win a lot of matches on those surfaces. Of the Top 3, he makes the least adjustments to his game from surface to surface.

I completly agree with everything you mentioned.

But that's not Blaze's point (considering he has a point :devil:).

EDIT: As for the sentence in bold, I don't really think any of the top3 players is an an all surface specialist.

GugaF1
06-16-2008, 06:19 PM
All you need is love, love is all you need...

Jimnik
06-16-2008, 06:19 PM
Back in the 90s Djokovic would have been more skewed towards hard and clay. But he's playing in an era where there aren't many good grass players and the courts have been slowed down so much. He sums up what tennis is all about nowadays - clay and slow hard courts.

scarecrows
06-16-2008, 06:19 PM
its also guys like Borg, Mac, P Mac, Rusedski, Killer Cahill and countless others who are saying that Djokovic is a serious all surface threat.

.

since when do you care what other ex-players say?
most of them say that Federer is the best player ever but you're convinced that he's just a lucky pansy :shrug:

BigJohn
06-16-2008, 06:22 PM
I do not agree, because his record shows he can do pretty good on every surface. His game is pretty effective.

But I am crazy in love with this opening sentence:

For all the fawning and dick sucking of Nole this year and some of last year, he has proven nothing but to be a hardcourter who fails against the big boys on clay and grass.



What a zinger!

rafa the best
06-16-2008, 06:34 PM
Blaze-2004 , great thread. There are double standards in tennis when it comes to hard courts and clay.
Even though Rafa now has titles on all 4 surfaces, some people will sill call him one dimensional clay courter just because he's the best player on clay ever.

NinaNina19
06-16-2008, 06:36 PM
For all the fawning and dick sucking of Nole this year and some of last year, he has proven nothing but to be a hardcourter who fails against the big boys on clay and grass.

Its funny. When a player like Djokovic wins a hardcourt slam, for some reason he is projected to do well on all surfaces? But when someone like Nadal wins on clay, no one predicts him to win on other surfaces? Another example of the hardcourt bias in tennis, but thats for another thread.

The point is that if Nadal is just a claycourter with all his non-clay results, then how the fuck is Djokovic an "all-surface" player? :rolleyes:

Djokovic has lost 3 straight times to Nadal and the only clay thing he won was when he had a mug draw and didn't beat anyone in the top 20. Whenever he played Fed or Nadal, he LOST.

Djokovic is nothing but a hardcourter.Djokovic has twice reached the semi-finals of a clay slam, while Nadal has never reached the semis at the USO. Djokovic is younger too.

arm
06-16-2008, 06:37 PM
Blaze-2004 , great thread. There are double standards in tennis when it comes to hard courts and clay.
Even though Rafa now has titles on all 4 surfaces, some people will sill call him one dimensional clay courter just because he's the best player on clay ever.

:silly:
~
Which part of the title ("Novak Djokovic is a one dimensional hardcourter") didn't you understand?

This thread is not about Rafa, it's about Djokovic.

GlennMirnyi
06-16-2008, 06:38 PM
Gotta love the tards. Every thread either becomes about Nadal or Fakervic nowadays. :lol:

StZox
06-16-2008, 06:42 PM
OMG

PLEASE

Novak is the youngest player ever to reach at least the SFs of all Grand Slams the same year, and even winning one.

Wimbledon SF
US Open F
AUstralian Open Winner
Roland Garros SF

I think that these stats are impressive and contribute to the fact that he is an all-court player.
Give him a break. What else do you want!?

MIMIC
06-16-2008, 06:44 PM
Novak is the youngest player ever to reach at least the SFs of all Grand Slams the same year.



Wow...I didn't know that. Impressive :cool:

Xristos
06-16-2008, 06:46 PM
For all the fawning and dick sucking of Nole this year and some of last year, he has proven nothing but to be a hardcourter who fails against the big boys on clay and grass.

Dude, whats with you and dicks? You cant seem to get them off your mind..

:confused:

Matt01
06-16-2008, 06:48 PM
I think it would be misguided of Djokovic fans to suggest that he is an all surface specialist.


You can be a specialist for one surface. You can play well on all surfaces. But, per definitionem:
You cannot be an "all surface specialist" :retard:

Matt01
06-16-2008, 06:49 PM
Djokovic is nothing but a hardcourter.


Yeah, and Nadal is only a claycourter. :retard:

Buy a brain from somewhere, and then we can talk again.

Next!

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 07:04 PM
Yeah, and Nadal is only a claycourter. :retard:

Buy a brain from somewhere, and then we can talk again.

Next!

You are internet cool now :yeah: :cool:

Matt01
06-16-2008, 07:06 PM
You are internet cool now :yeah: :cool:


Thanks, I think...

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 07:11 PM
Best Grand Slam results head-to-head:

Australian Open

Djokovic: Winner
Nadal: Semi-finals

French Open

Djokovic: Semi-finals
Nadal: Winner

Wimbledon

Djokovic: Semi-finals
Nadal: Finals

U.S. Open

Djokovic: Finals
Nadal: Quarter-Finals

Now if we assign point values to each finish (Winner = 4, Finalist = 3, Semi-Finalist = 2, & Quarter-Finalist = 1)

Djokovic: 4 + 2 + 2 + 3 = 11
Nadal: 2 + 4 + 3 + 1 = 10


Comparatively speaking, Djokovic is the better man when you factor in ALL of the surfaces.

Bullshit. Two hardcourt slams means that Djokovic will clearly be ahead as he is a better hardcourt player. If there was only 3 slams, one on each surface, Nadal would be leading that.

You are all so amazingly ridiculous. :lol:

Really, the guy has achieved so much and now he is only a Hard Court player? :lol: :worship:

One thing is saying that Nadal is a better player than him. It's questionable, but understandable.

But saying he is a "one dimensional hardcourter" is just pathetic.

Hey Blaze, you keep talking about CD's threads. Oh yeah, yours are much better and reasonable than his. :worship::yeah:

He has achieved so much? What exactly has he won off hardcourts? Rome TMS with 2 retirements and Wawrinkamug in the final? A few MM clay events in 06? Please.

Djokovic has twice reached the semi-finals of a clay slam, while Nadal has never reached the semis at the USO. Djokovic is younger too.

What exactly does this prove? My point is that Djokovic, for all his hype, has done little outside of hardcourts. If Nadal is labeled as a clay courter with all he's done off clay, then why is Djokovic an all-surface player when all his results come on hardcourts?

OMG

PLEASE

Novak is the youngest player ever to reach at least the SFs of all Grand Slams the same year, and even winning one.

Wimbledon SF
US Open F
AUstralian Open Winner
Roland Garros SF

I think that these stats are impressive and contribute to the fact that he is an all-court player.
Give him a break. What else do you want!?

He didn't reach SF all in the same year. :o :rolleyes:

Dude, whats with you and dicks? You cant seem to get them off your mind..

:confused:

And you can't seem to understand its a figure of speech.

Go back to losing to 41 year olds.

finishingmove
06-16-2008, 07:12 PM
Gotta love the tards. Every thread either becomes about Nadal or Fakervic nowadays. :lol:

thanks to blaze for this one, eh ?


djokovic is a one dimensional baseliner. pretty successful too , on all surfaces.

GlennMirnyi
06-16-2008, 07:12 PM
Yeah, and Nadal is only a claycourter. :retard:

Buy a brain from somewhere, and then we can talk again.

Next!

While he's at it, care to give him the place where you bought yours? It's not working it seems.

finishingmove
06-16-2008, 07:13 PM
For all the fawning and dick sucking

Dude, whats with you and dicks? You cant seem to get them off your mind..

:confused:

i think blaze has a problem...

xJyelcnINH0

GlennMirnyi
06-16-2008, 07:14 PM
thanks to blaze for this one, eh ?


djokovic is a one dimensional baseliner. pretty successful too , on all surfaces.

Blaze made a troll thread but a troll thread that's a fact. It's about Faker, but as it turned out, Nadal is becoming the subject.

r2473
06-16-2008, 07:17 PM
For all the fawning and dick sucking of Nole this year and some of last year, he has proven nothing but to be a hardcourter who fails against the big boys on clay and grass.

Its funny. When a player like Djokovic wins a hardcourt slam, for some reason he is projected to do well on all surfaces? But when someone like Nadal wins on clay, no one predicts him to win on other surfaces? Another example of the hardcourt bias in tennis, but thats for another thread.

The point is that if Nadal is just a claycourter with all his non-clay results, then how the fuck is Djokovic an "all-surface" player? :rolleyes:

Djokovic has lost 3 straight times to Nadal and the only clay thing he won was when he had a mug draw and didn't beat anyone in the top 20. Whenever he played Fed or Nadal, he LOST.

Djokovic is nothing but a hardcourter.

Brilliant stuff.:rolleyes:

This is one dick suckin' good thread.

If you are bored, go out and hit a few baskets of balls. Practice your serve or something. Much more productive I should think.

Xristos
06-16-2008, 07:19 PM
i think blaze has a problem...

xJyelcnINH0

Yes, he has a big problem with dicks, Nadals ass and many other countless gay objects of desire.

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 07:21 PM
Yes, he has a big problem with dicks, Nadals ass and many other countless gay objects of desire.

:lol:

Still getting bagelled by 15 year olds? :lol:

GlennMirnyi
06-16-2008, 07:22 PM
:lol:

Still getting bagelled by 15 year olds? :lol:

15 year old GIRLS. :o

Xristos
06-16-2008, 07:23 PM
:lol:

Still getting bagelled by 15 year olds? :lol:

No.

Still playing with dildo's?

Xristos
06-16-2008, 07:26 PM
15 year old GIRLS. :o

Ohh man! Soo funny!!

Always remeber il still kick your ass.

Johnny Groove
06-16-2008, 07:26 PM
No.

Still playing with dildo's?

Nope, never have.

Your bagel results are legendary though :worship:

But this is getting off-topic.

Do you have an opinion about the thread or are you once again showing you know nothing about tennis, only watch it to bandwagon the top players and wear their clothing while being bagelled by 15 year old girls?

finishingmove
06-16-2008, 07:29 PM
http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/Needs-More-Cowbell.jpg

Xristos
06-16-2008, 07:29 PM
Nope, never have.

Your bagel results are legendary though :worship:

But this is getting off-topic

Yes they are! Very proud of my achievements to this day.

Goes to show how much of a champion I am by percerviering though all the hard times.

Xristos
06-16-2008, 07:33 PM
Do you have an opinion about the thread or are you once again showing you know nothing about tennis, only watch it to bandwagon the top players and wear their clothing while being bagelled by 15 year old girls?

I know that your are a troll and your knowledge of tennis is slim to none. Djokovic is in no way a one dimensional hardcourter. How can you even justify makeing a thread of this calibre?

He has mad the SF of the French and Wimbledon. He pushed Nadal more then anyone at the French and who knows what would have happened if he didnt have blisters last year.

All in all you are a troll that should be looking up male ass on google images.

Matt01
06-16-2008, 07:40 PM
All in all you are a troll that should be looking up male ass on google images.


Hmmm...

Blaze-2004, are you sexually attracted to Nadal and his ass? :)

Castafiore
06-16-2008, 07:41 PM
Sheesh, can't people respond without the childish insults!:o
Disagree with Blaze all you like but is there any need to get so personal? It only shows that you don't have a real reply.

Note: Djokovic is a fantastic player. I may not be a huge fan of the man but I do acknowledge that.



Having said that...:)...As I see it - but obviously, Jon, feel free to correct me - this thread was started to point the attention to some clichés that have been discussed many times before on MTF but we've seen it in action again in the most recent months.

In Nadal's case: most people with a bit of brainpower will acknowledge that he's a very good tennis player but they will still categorize him as a claycourter, a clay court specialist,...*insert more clichés*
Players who get their best results on clay get the label "specialist" and it's just about impossible to shake off by the looks of it.

Now, in itself, there's nothing wrong with the term "specialist" were it not that it's only used for clay. On the other hand, players who get their best results on hardcourts and do not really adapt their game all that much to play on other courts do not really get that sort of "specialist" label.

THAT is a double standard and I think that Jonathan used a bit of a hyperbole in an effort to prove it perhaps.

Clay Death
06-16-2008, 07:45 PM
I know that your are a troll and your knowledge of tennis is slim to none. Djokovic is in no way a one dimensional hardcourter. How can you even justify makeing a thread of this calibre?

He has mad the SF of the French and Wimbledon. He pushed Nadal more then anyone at the French and who knows what would have happened if he didnt have blisters last year.

All in all you are a troll that should be looking up male ass on google images.


djokovic is not even remotely close to being a one dimensional player. in fact, he is the exact opposite. he is by far the only real, all surface player out there. his rate of improvement is alarming considering he just turned 21.

Clay Monster is the only player he cannot deal with but who can. Clay Monster will go down in history as the greatest clay court player ever. he is also making a name for himself on grass.

just because he cannot deal with the Clay monster does not automatically make him one dimensional on hard courts.

last time i checked, he had Fed`s number at a hard court slam which he won. he should be able to defend his points at Wimby with ease. if is in Fed`s 1/2, he silences his critics forever and if he is in Nadal`s 1/2, he is just unfortunate.

Clay Monster will not be denied if he makes it past the quarters.

star
06-16-2008, 07:45 PM
This thread is simply designed to get people riled up and fighting.

I see it's working. :) :)