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World #1, #2 and #4 win titles in same week. a first ?

TheBoiledEgg
06-15-2008, 03:46 PM
pretty sure this has never happened before, and highly unlikely to be done in future also.

Federer wins Halle
Nadal wins Queens
and Davydenko wins in Warsaw

ae wowww
06-15-2008, 03:47 PM
I think you may be right, an awesome week - really enjoyed the Queen's coverage!

Monteque
06-15-2008, 03:53 PM
yes i was thinking about the world no 1,2,3, and 4 got the final also in the same week.
incredible

Mansave_75
06-15-2008, 05:34 PM
Definetely a day to remember. :)

Waterfox
06-15-2008, 06:37 PM
well..
nadal and fed won
back2back titles
on the same day 2 weeks straight...

kalisita
06-15-2008, 06:50 PM
well..
nadal and fed won
back2back titles
on the same day 2 weeks straight...

Only Nadal won RG.

NYCtennisfan
06-15-2008, 06:52 PM
Might be a first.

In '82, McEnroe and Lendl won in the same week i.e. week of 9/20/82 and I think they were either 1 and 2 or 1 and 3. They also won in the same week in January (1/25/82). Connors and Lendl won in the same week (2/22/82) earlier that year and they were 2 and 3.

Waterfox
06-15-2008, 07:16 PM
Only Nadal won RG.

sorry i was talking about 2005
when he and nadal both won titles on the same day
on consecutive weeks

Timariot
06-15-2008, 10:01 PM
What makes it even more noteworthy is that both Roland Garros finalists won a title following week and on top of that, one losing finalist was RG semifinalist. In the past we were accustomed to that those who did well in RG tended to disappear from the view until summer clay season, sometimes skipping grass season altogether.

So what is this evidence for? Grass slowed down so much that claycourters can succeed on it? Era of truly great & well-rounded top players? Or just a era of clowns where only top 3 are noteworthy players and everyone else sucks?

PiggyGotRoasted
06-15-2008, 10:09 PM
What makes it even more noteworthy is that both Roland Garros finalists won a title following week and on top of that, one losing finalist was RG semifinalist. In the past we were accustomed to that those who did well in RG tended to disappear from the view until summer clay season, sometimes skipping grass season altogether.

So what is this evidence for? Grass slowed down so much that claycourters can succeed on it? Era of truly great & well-rounded top players? Or just a era of clowns where only top 3 are noteworthy players and everyone else sucks?

or era of tennis where noone can play on grass :o

GlennMirnyi
06-15-2008, 10:53 PM
Grass is too slow nowadays.

jcempire
06-15-2008, 11:07 PM
That would be one of history

Knightmace
06-15-2008, 11:20 PM
Another history making event!

10nisfan
06-16-2008, 03:53 AM
Poor Djoker, he's the Only ONE among the 4 of them who Didn't Win... :lol:

BUT it's Good, coz it Could have been RAFA who's in Djoker's shoes today!

Jaffas85
06-16-2008, 06:44 AM
Grass is too slow nowadays.

How is it even possible to "slow down" grass?

Perhaps its just more likely that the game has become faster and more physical because of improved racket technology and fitness. Therefore, it is much more difficult for serve and volley player to exist like they once did.

Kolya
06-16-2008, 07:04 AM
How is it even possible to "slow down" grass?

Perhaps its just more likely that the game has become faster and more physical because of improved racket technology and fitness. Therefore, it is much more difficult for serve and volley player to exist like they once did.

No mate.

jenanun
06-16-2008, 07:09 AM
What makes it even more noteworthy is that both Roland Garros finalists won a title following week and on top of that, one losing finalist was RG semifinalist. In the past we were accustomed to that those who did well in RG tended to disappear from the view until summer clay season, sometimes skipping grass season altogether.

So what is this evidence for? Grass slowed down so much that claycourters can succeed on it? Era of truly great & well-rounded top players? Or just a era of clowns where only top 3 are noteworthy players and everyone else sucks?


the last one.. apart from the top 3, everyone sucks..

garad
06-16-2008, 08:46 AM
What makes it even more noteworthy is that both Roland Garros finalists won a title following week and on top of that, one losing finalist was RG semifinalist. In the past we were accustomed to that those who did well in RG tended to disappear from the view until summer clay season, sometimes skipping grass season altogether.

So what is this evidence for? Grass slowed down so much that claycourters can succeed on it? Era of truly great & well-rounded top players? Or just a era of clowns where only top 3 are noteworthy players and everyone else sucks?

I pick this one as an answer.

Acer
06-16-2008, 08:51 AM
Anyone who thinks Queens and Halle were slow must be blind.

Bazooka
06-16-2008, 10:45 AM
Queens was really fast, but clearly was slower than in the first rounds, as expected.

cool bird1
06-16-2008, 10:59 AM
How is it even possible to "slow down" grass?

Perhaps its just more likely that the game has become faster and more physical because of improved racket technology and fitness. Therefore, it is much more difficult for serve and volley player to exist like they once did.

It the mix of the grass and the wieght of the balls.

TheBoiledEgg
06-16-2008, 01:51 PM
How is it even possible to "slow down" grass?


by making the grass a bit longer
heavier balls
they also use a diff type of grass which is alot slower than the used back in 90's and before that.

Monteque
06-16-2008, 02:31 PM
Anyone who thinks Queens and Halle were slow must be blind.

from the extensive highlights, no doubt even Queens is slower today than it used to be(1990s).

tennis2tennis
06-16-2008, 02:42 PM
what happened in warsaw? ;)

JediFed
06-16-2008, 05:17 PM
How is it even possible to "slow down" grass?


It's green clay, that's why. :angel:

dodoboy
06-16-2008, 06:04 PM
I don't see this as a good thing by any stretch!

We should be happy with them playing each other not some scrubs in Warsaw and Halle :o

JediFed
06-16-2008, 06:23 PM
Blake is a scrub? :o

Sunset of Age
06-16-2008, 06:24 PM
Blake is a scrub? :o

Euh, yeah. :o

Neely
06-16-2008, 10:24 PM
That's a good question and I checked this.

I came to the result that this never happened before since weekly rankings are released. However, I found one situation in history where the same could have happened, but two players involved blew the necessary constellation.

Week of 26-Feb-01:
Acapulco, Gustavo Kuerten (#1) def. Blanco, Galo 6-4 6-2
Dubai, Juan Carlos Ferrero def. Safin, Marat (#2) 6-2 3-1 ret.
San Jose, Gred Rusedski def. Agassi, Andre (#4) 6-3 6-4


In the week of 10-Feb-97 there were five top 10 players in different final: Muster, Ivanisevic, Sampras, Enqvist, Rios
This could have been a week in which the #1, #2, and #3 won a tournament, but Muster and Ivanisevic (ranked #1 and #2) were in the same final, so it wasn't possible. Sampras as #3 won his tournament.


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Alone three top 10 players winning a tournament in the same week is pretty rare:

week of 9-Oct-06:
Stockholm, James Blake (#8) def. Nieminen, Jarkko 6-4 6-2
Moscow, Nikolay Davydenko (#5) def. Safin, Marat 6-4 5-7 6-4
Vienna, Ivan Ljubicic (#3) def. Gonzalez, Fernando 6-3 6-4 7-5

week of 21-Jul-03:
Umag, Carlos Moya (#4) def. Volandri, Filippo 6-4 3-6 7-5
Andy Roddick (#6) def. Srichaphan, Paradorn 7-6(2) 6-4
Kitzbuhel, Guillermo Coria (#7) def. Massu, Nicolas 6-1 6-4 6-2

week of 10-Feb-97:
San Jose, Pete Sampras (#1) def. Rusedski, Greg 3-6 5-0 ret.
Marseille, Thomas Enqvist (#10) def. Rios, Marcelo 6-4 1-0 RET
Dubei, Thomas Muster (#3) def. Ivanisevic, Goran 7-5 7-6(3)

week of 8-Apr-96:
Hong Kong, Pete Sampras (#2) def. Chang, Michael 6-4 3-6 6-4
Estoril, Thomas Muster (#1) def. Gaudenzi, Andrea 7-6(4) 6-4
New Delhi, Thomas Enqvist (#9) def. Black, Byron 6-2 7-6(3)

week of 4-Mar-96:
Scottsdale, Wayne Ferreira (#10) def. Rios, Marcelo 2-6 6-3 6-3
Rotterdam, Goran Ivanisevic (#6) def. Kafelnikov, Yevgeny 6-4 3-6 6-3
Mexico City, Thomas Muster (#2) def. Novak, Jiri 7-6(3) 6-2

week of 30-Sep-91:
Athens, Sergi Bruguera (#10) def. Arrese, Jordi 7-5 6-3
Sydney Indoor, Stefan Edberg (#1) def. Gilbert, Brad 6-2 6-2 6-2
Toulouse, Guy Forget (#6) def. Mansdorf, Amos 6-2 7-6(4)