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Shortest 5-set match on clay?

Andre♥
05-25-2008, 07:21 PM
Murray vs Eysseric today lasted just 2 hours and 44 minutes!

Was there any 5-set match on clay quicker than this?

Voo de Mar
05-25-2008, 07:25 PM
For example final in Kitzbuhel 1998: A.Costa def. A.Gaudenzi 6-2 1-6 6-2 3-6 6-1 after 2 hours 41 minutes.

Andre♥
05-25-2008, 07:32 PM
For example final in Kitzbuhel 1998: A.Costa def. A.Gaudenzi 6-2 1-6 6-2 3-6 6-1 after 2 hours 41 minutes.

3 minutes shorter! :p

Lapentti vs Tipsarevic had less one set and plus one hour of tennis! :eek:

hra87
05-25-2008, 07:33 PM
3 minutes shorter! :p

Lapentti vs Tipsarevic had less one set and plus one hour of tennis! :eek:

I think you mean 1 hour of lapentti preparing to serve. :o.

Burrow
05-25-2008, 08:45 PM
I think you mean 1 hour of lapentti preparing to serve. :o.

Coming from a Nadal fan...

ASP0315
05-26-2008, 12:47 AM
For example final in Kitzbuhel 1998: A.Costa def. A.Gaudenzi 6-2 1-6 6-2 3-6 6-1 after 2 hours 41 minutes.

Voo do you know what is the shortest 5 set match in history.?
i'm think Rusedski-Roddick at AO three years ago. But i don't know.

Burrow
05-26-2008, 12:55 AM
Rusedski Roddick was not a 5 setter, it was 4 sets.

azza
05-26-2008, 04:54 AM
I wish there was a match that went 6-0 0-6 6-0 0-6 6-0 :)

Voo de Mar
05-26-2008, 12:11 PM
Voo do you know what is the shortest 5 set match in history.?


I don't know and it's very tough to find because on atptennis.com, we have match-time only since 1991.

I suppose that since then, the shortest five-setter, played Mantilla and van Garsse. The Spaniard won 6-2 6-2 1-6 4-6 6-2 in the 1st round of Wimbledon 1998 after just 2 hours and 13 minutes :lol: Massu and Zabaleta in Kitzbuhel 2004, played a 2-setter which lasted 39 minutes longer :)

scarecrows
05-26-2008, 12:13 PM
I don't know and it's very tough to find because on atptennis.com, we have match-time only since 1991.

I suppose that since then, the shortest five-setter, played Mantilla and van Garsse. The Spaniard won 6-2 6-2 1-6 4-6 6-2 in the 1st round of Wimbledon 1998 after just 2 hours and 13 minutes :lol: Massu and Zabaleta in Kitzbuhel 2004, played a 2-setter which lasted 39 minutes longer :)

how surprising that this name appears every time a long match is being mentioned :lol:

Black Adam
05-26-2008, 12:28 PM
Roddick vs Johansson USO 2004 was about 2h 30.

scoobs
05-26-2008, 01:21 PM
Ahhh US Open - the other clay.

Apemant
05-26-2008, 02:39 PM
I don't know and it's very tough to find because on atptennis.com, we have match-time only since 1991.

I suppose that since then, the shortest five-setter, played Mantilla and van Garsse. The Spaniard won 6-2 6-2 1-6 4-6 6-2 in the 1st round of Wimbledon 1998 after just 2 hours and 13 minutes :lol: Massu and Zabaleta in Kitzbuhel 2004, played a 2-setter which lasted 39 minutes longer :)

Hmm but how did you find this bit of info? Do you have the entire database from atptennis.com on your comp or something?

Black Adam
05-26-2008, 03:32 PM
Ahhh US Open - the other clay.
We were talking about the shortest 5 setter on all surfaces, nice knee-jerk sarcastic reaction by the way :yeah: Anyways turns out the Johansson Roddick Match was 2h 53 mins, therefore not the shortest 5 setter.

Voo de Mar
05-26-2008, 03:58 PM
Hmm but how did you find this bit of info? Do you have the entire database from atptennis.com on your comp or something?

I've got thousands of scorelines in my brain :yeah:

Neely
05-26-2008, 09:35 PM
That's a good question, I think we just don't know exactly because the time stats on the official ATP site are so unreliable and many many values entered are errors.

If you're just going by ATP numbers, there are about 100 completed five set matches on clay which are below 100 minutes.


I'll give you a few which are over 100 minutes. It's up to you to decide what is an error and where it could start to be plausible.

RG 1995, R64, Steven def. Goellner 7-6(5) 6-2 5-7 4-6 7-5 (102 minutes)
RG 1994, R128, Reneberg def. Stoltenberg 1-6 3-6 6-3 6-3 7-5 (111 minutes)
RG 1996, R128, Woodbridge def. Kulti 0-6 6-2 2-6 6-4 6-1 (123 minutes)
RG 1992, R64, Korda def. Matsuoka 1-6 4-6 6-4 6-4 6-4 (128 minutes)
RG 1996, R128, Novak def. Pereira 2-6 4-6 6-2 6-1 6-1 (133 minutes)
RG 1996, R32, Sampras def. Martin 3-6 6-4 7-5 4-6 6-2 (141 minutes)
RG 2000, R128, Balcells def. Bruguera 6-3 5-7 6-2 1-6 6-0 (143 minutes)
RG 1999, R128, Safin def. Kroslak 6-2 4-6 6-3 3-6 6-2 (148 minutes)

Then at about 150 minutes there seems to be a kind of break and the frequency of matches lasting 150 minutes and above increases rapidly.


Shortest 5 set matches not being played at Roland Garros:

Kitzbühel 1998, F, Costa def. Gaudenzi 6-2 1-6 6-2 3-6 6-1 (161 minutes)
Gstaad 2003, F, Novak def. Federer 5-7 6-3 6-3 1-6 6-3 (169 minutes)
Stuttgart 1992, F, Medvedev def. Ferreira 6-1 6-4 6-7(5) 2-6 6-1 (170 minutes)


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Voo de Mar
05-26-2008, 09:42 PM
That's a good, I think we just don't know exactly because the time stats on the official ATP site are so unreliable.

If you're just going by ATP numbers, there are about 100 completed five set matches on clay which are below 100 minutes.


I'll give you a few which are over 100 minutes. It's up to you to decide what is an error and where it could start to be plausible.

RG 1995, R64, Steven def. Goellner 7-6(5) 6-2 5-7 4-6 7-5 (102 minutes)
RG 1994, R128, Reneberg def. Stoltenberg 1-6 3-6 6-3 6-3 7-5 (111 minutes)
RG 1996, R128, Woodbridge def. Kulti 0-6 6-2 2-6 6-4 6-1 (123 minutes)
RG 1992, R64, Korda def. Matsuoka 1-6 4-6 6-4 6-4 6-4 (128 minutes)
RG 1996, R128, Novak def. Pereira 2-6 4-6 6-2 6-1 6-1 (133 minutes)
RG 1996, R32, Sampras def. Martin 3-6 6-4 7-5 4-6 6-2 (141 minutes)
RG 2000, R128, Balcells def. Bruguera 6-3 5-7 6-2 1-6 6-0 (143 minutes)
RG 1999, R128, Safin def. Kroslak 6-2 4-6 6-3 3-6 6-2 (148 minutes)

Then at about 150 minutes there seems to be a kind of break and the frequency of matches lasting 150 minutes and above increases rapidly.



Very interesting stats Neely :yeah: The Steven-Goellner match looks completely unreliable. Goellner had powerful serve, Steven used to play serve-and-volley so there weren't many long rallies but the amount of games suggest that it couldn't be only 1 hour 42 minutes :)

Neely
05-26-2008, 10:01 PM
Exactly, it's almost impossible that so many games happened in such a short amount of time. Without tiebreak, 54 normal games in 102 minutes. Alone the changeovers would take about 40 minutes of the match time.


Woodbridge vs Kulti and Novak vs Pereira have many fewer games and lasted longer, so maybe they are closer to the truth to say it could have happened somewhere within that time.

Voo de Mar
05-26-2008, 10:06 PM
Woodbridge vs Kulti and Novak vs Pereira have many fewer games and lasted longer, so maybe they are closer to the truth to say it could have happened somewhere within that time.

I agree. Woodbridge and Pereira also used to play S&V, Kulti didn't like to play long rallies, so we can accept it could have happened.

Rafa = Fed Killa
05-27-2008, 04:29 AM
Coming from a Nadal fan...

How is Safin doing.

What is he like number 140.

Beta2k
01-14-2013, 09:56 AM
Fognini vs Bautista AO 2013: 0-6, 6-2, 4-6, 6-3, 1-6 => 2h 32min => 152min.

rather short hu? and yes i know, it's not on clay, but could not find a better fitting thread

n8
01-14-2013, 10:41 AM
Fognini vs Bautista AO 2013: 0-6, 6-2, 4-6, 6-3, 1-6 => 2h 32min => 152min.

rather short hu? and yes i know, it's not on clay, but could not find a better fitting thread

Come on, you're not adverse to starting new threads. :)