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Has Federer ever lost a set 0-6?

Knightmace
05-25-2008, 01:35 AM
In all the Fed matches I've seen I've never seen him lose a set 0-6 but maybe he has.

Has he?

CmonAussie
05-25-2008, 01:37 AM
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pretty sure FED`s never been bagelled<> atleast not on the ATP tour!!
very impressive, it shows that Roger is indeed a fighter!

MatchFederer
05-25-2008, 01:39 AM
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pretty sure FED`s never been bagelled<> atleast not on the ATP tour!!
very impressive, it shows that Roger is indeed a fighter!

I am not so sure...

Albop
05-25-2008, 01:40 AM
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pretty sure FED`s never been bagelled<> atleast not on the ATP tour!!
very impressive, it shows that Roger is indeed a fighter!

:confused:

Albop
05-25-2008, 01:40 AM
Against Black at queen's in 99
"""""""" Rafter at RG in 99
also against spadea at MC 99 lol

JimmyV
05-25-2008, 01:41 AM
Lol.

Spadea bageling Federer.

Lol.

CmonAussie
05-25-2008, 01:41 AM
I am not so sure...
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i thought i recall commentators remarking what a remarkable feat it was that FED had never been bagelled:confused:

Bibberz
05-25-2008, 01:42 AM
Albop beat me to it. Well done, sir.

CmonAussie
05-25-2008, 01:43 AM
Against Black at queen's in 99
"""""""" Rafter at RG in 99
also against spadea at MC 99 lol

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there you go, didn`t know about those;)
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anyway it still means FED hasn`t eaten a bagel in 9 years:worship:

MatchFederer
05-25-2008, 01:43 AM
Against Black at queen's in 99
"""""""" Rafter at RG in 99
also against spadea at MC 99 lol

Had an incling Rafter did...

Knightmace
05-25-2008, 01:43 AM
Against Black at queen's in 99
"""""""" Rafter at RG in 99
also against spadea at MC 99 lol
So he has then, he was like 17 at that time?

Impressive though he hardly ever loses a bagel.

elessar
05-25-2008, 01:43 AM
He's been baggeled 3 times in his pro career, all during his first year in 98 and never since

CyBorg
05-25-2008, 01:52 AM
He's been baggeled 3 times in his pro career, all during his first year in 98 and never since

1999.

Pigsarestupid
05-25-2008, 01:53 AM
Wow, impressive stuff. I wonder if Roger thinks about this kind of stuff and fight hard to avoid bagels. I remember Nadal was 4-0 30-30 on Federers serve last year in wimbledon and Federer started to focus to not get humiliated in that set.

elessar
05-25-2008, 01:53 AM
1999.
Semantics :p

MatchFederer
05-25-2008, 01:55 AM
Bit off topic but this morning, I had a nightmare. Roger Federer pulled is hamstring in the final against Nadal at RG as he was running crosscourt to reach a dropshot. The dream was vivid and I was horrified!

elessar
05-25-2008, 01:57 AM
Bit off topic but this morning, I had a nightmare. Roger Federer pulled is hamstring in the final against Nadal at RG as he was running crosscourt to reach a dropshot. The dream was vivid and I was horrified!

Have no worries, Roger will triple bagel the spartan king in the final anyway :cool:

MatchFederer
05-25-2008, 02:00 AM
Have no worries, Roger will triple bagel the spartan king in the final anyway :cool:

7-5, 7-5, 7-5.


Or does it have to be 6-3, 6-3, 6-3.

:p

Albop
05-25-2008, 02:04 AM
Federer: not bageled since 99' queens :eek: against black
Nadal: not bageled since chennai F against youzhny
Djokovic: Not bageled since last year estoril final against gasquet
davydenko: Not bageled since 05' TMC SF against nalbandian

Fed has never been bageled in a hardcourt :worship:

Edit: Karlovic not bageled since 04' indianapolis against kiefer

Knightmace
05-25-2008, 02:11 AM
^:)

GlennMirnyi
05-25-2008, 02:12 AM
Spadea ain't afraid of ya!

NYCtennisfan
05-25-2008, 04:10 AM
I've been working on a thread that deals with bagel stats and Fed is working on an impressive streak of not being bageled; he's also played a huge # of matches with a very small # of bagels historically speaking.

cardio
05-25-2008, 04:16 AM
Federer: not bageled since 99' queens :eek: against black
Nadal: not bageled since chennai F against youzhny
Djokovic: Not bageled since last year estoril final against gasquet
davydenko: Not bageled since 05' TMC SF against nalbandian

Fed has never been bageled in a hardcourt :worship:

Edit: Karlovic not bageled since 04' indianapolis against kiefer

I wonder which one is tougher task nowadays : to bagel Federer or bagel Karlovic? I know that it does not count, but still : being 5-1 up against Nadal in Hamburg, Fed lost 6 games in a row in 1.set, which is probably even more rare in pro tennis than set with 0-6 score

JediFed
05-25-2008, 04:38 AM
Connors had a 4 year stretch, that was ended by Lendl who loved dishing out bakery products to him.

Sampras had only one bagel from 1992-2000, and that was from Kafelnikov at RG in 1996. Hewitt broke his second 4 year streak in 2000 by bageling Sampras.

Lendl had a 4 year 6 month streak from Oct of 1986 to April of 1992, when Edberg bagelled him.

Becker's streak from January of 1991 to February of 1995 was ended by Stich.

McEnroe had a streak from 1983-1987, which was ended by Mecir.

As far as I can see, the next longest streak is Lendl's 4 year 6 month string. The only comparable performance is Sampras from 1992-2000, where he was only bagelled once in RG by Kafelnikov, until he was defeated by Hewitt. Federer has owned this record since BEFORE he was number one, amazingly enough.

Kolya
05-25-2008, 05:46 AM
Connors had a 4 year stretch, that was ended by Lendl who loved dishing out bakery products to him.

Sampras had only one bagel from 1992-2000, and that was from Kafelnikov at RG in 1996. Hewitt broke his second 4 year streak in 2000 by bageling Sampras.

Lendl had a 4 year 6 month streak from Oct of 1986 to April of 1992, when Edberg bagelled him.

Becker's streak from January of 1991 to February of 1995 was ended by Stich.

McEnroe had a streak from 1983-1987, which was ended by Mecir.

As far as I can see, the next longest streak is Lendl's 4 year 6 month string. The only comparable performance is Sampras from 1992-2000, where he was only bagelled once in RG by Kafelnikov, until he was defeated by Hewitt. Federer has owned this record since BEFORE he was number one, amazingly enough.

Nice work mate.

habibko
05-25-2008, 08:02 AM
wow what an emphatic record, maybe I should add it to my signature as well :rolleyes:

MisterQ
05-25-2008, 12:18 PM
It's impressive. :cool:

(Though he did lose six straight games last week.... ;) )

Voo de Mar
05-25-2008, 12:49 PM
Federer lost also two sets 0-6 in his first Satellite in Switzerland at the beginning of professional career .

sunsfuns
05-25-2008, 04:50 PM
I remember I once looked up this bagel stuff and Fed was one of the best (3 bagels). Only Karlovic was better with 2... Krajicek was bageled three times and Sampras 10 times

groundstroke
05-25-2008, 05:09 PM
http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/headtohead/?player1=federer&player2=spadea

JediFed
05-25-2008, 06:48 PM
Krajicek is interesting.

Once against Edberg in 1996 in the second round of Monte Carlos:

0-6 6-4 6-2

Once against Chang in 1993 in Los Angeles Final, where he won the next two sets in tiebreaks.

0-6 7-6(3) 7-6 (5)

Once against Lendl in the first round of the 1991 USO, where he was up 2-0 against Lendl and lost with the bagel

6-3 6-2 4-6 6-7(5) 0-6

Technically, he has a year streak from 1996-2003 which would mean 7 years without a bagel from May 1996 to June of 2003, when he finally retired. Federer has a streak from June of 1999 to now, which is nearly 9 years without a bagel. So he would have earned this record two years ago, in July of 2006.

If we treat the record only from 1996-2000 when Krajicek got injured, then that would rank right up there with the others, but just behind Lendl at 4 years 5 months, one month behind Lendl's record at the time.

Karlovic has one streak from November of 1999 to July of 2004, which is 4 years 8 months, which is 2 months past Lendl's record. He's currently on a 3 year 9 month streak.

JediFed
05-25-2008, 06:52 PM
I believe Federer has the best ratio in terms of matches without a bagel. He's played more games then Karlovic. His percentage is .996

So that is three records for Federer.

1. Highest career percentage of matches without a bagel.
2. Longest consecutive match streak without a bagel.
3. Longest consecutive active period without a bagel.

YANIVMUS
05-25-2008, 08:51 PM
708 games without bagel. no one was near to it, max 500 games from other player

in june 7 its will be 9 years.

i checked it last week.

for me its maybe the most impressive thing from federer
more then 225 weeks at no.1, 41 cons wins, 12 grand slam

and he never retired from game and this is made him who he is for me[not like djoko hammmmm]

JediFed
05-25-2008, 09:05 PM
Nah, the best record of his is the one that Canas broke in Indian Wells last year.

24 consecutive finals. Next nearest is 12.

Edit, and it's 680 matches without a bagel, since Byron Black bagelled him in Queens of all places.

Aurora
05-25-2008, 09:06 PM
for me its maybe the most impressive thing from federer
more then 225 weeks at no.1, 41 cons wins, 12 grand slam
:haha:

uhm. yeah definitely. it's this Karlovic has to be chasing instead of 1 measly slam.

JediFed
05-25-2008, 09:10 PM
Karlovic won't get it, I'm afraid. He's already 30. The only record Karlovic is chasing is the percentages.

Kuhne
05-26-2008, 01:41 AM
Didn't Nalbandian feed a bagel to Nadal in Madrid last year?

nvm it was 6-1, 6-2

Alex999
05-26-2008, 01:45 AM
Didn't Nalbandian feed a bagel to Nadal in Madrid last year?

nvm it was 6-1, 6-2
Yes he did in Paris 6:4 6:0.

Forehander
05-26-2008, 01:56 AM
Wow, impressive stuff. I wonder if Roger thinks about this kind of stuff and fight hard to avoid bagels. I remember Nadal was 4-0 30-30 on Federers serve last year in wimbledon and Federer started to focus to not get humiliated in that set.

Nice one :) that's exactly what comes to my mind all the time. It's not a surprise for Federer to be losing 4-0 shanking balls everywhere. But he'll always atleast try to get one game. Wimbledon is a good example, where he was so very pissed off about the hawkeye and down 2 breaks (is it two breaks? can't remember) but he still manage to win 2 games lol.

azza
05-26-2008, 02:38 AM
he has lost 6 games in a row recdently but not bagelled

Sjengster
05-26-2008, 02:49 AM
Nah, the best record of his is the one that Canas broke in Indian Wells last year.

24 consecutive finals. Next nearest is 12.

Edit, and it's 680 matches without a bagel, since Byron Black bagelled him in Queens of all places.

24 consecutive finals won, I think you'll find - a +2-year streak ended by Nalbandian at the 2005 TMC. He had reached 17 finals in a row (Halle 2005 to Toronto 2006), one short of Lendl's 18, when he lost to Murray in Cincinnati.

NYCtennisfan
05-26-2008, 05:04 AM
24 consecutive finals won, I think you'll find - a +2-year streak ended by Nalbandian at the 2005 TMC. He had reached 17 finals in a row (Halle 2005 to Toronto 2006), one short of Lendl's 18, when he lost to Murray in Cincinnati.

Yup. Federer's best streak of finals reached 17 after Canada in 2006. After that TMS event, Federer had made 29 straight QF's, 19 straight SF's, and 17 straight finals. The 29 straight QF's and 19 straight SF's are a record and the 17 finals are one off of the record like you mentioned.

On another note, Lendl's 18 finals in a row was impressive since he did it in such a short time span, but not as impressive when considering that none of the finals made were Slams or of course TMS events (didn't have the chance).

rocketassist
06-08-2008, 03:00 PM
9 year record under threat...

LinkMage
06-08-2008, 03:05 PM
Pathetic. :o

He was bagelled by Spadea, Rafter and Black that year.

freeandlonely
06-08-2008, 03:06 PM
:armed:

safinalium
06-08-2008, 03:33 PM
Seems like he just did today. As if it wasn't enough to be outplayed so badly, Federer had to be bagelled too.

Stefwhit
06-08-2008, 06:02 PM
That was Federer's worst loss in his 173 Grand Slam matches, and the shortest Roland Garros men's final in terms of games since 1977.

Jogy
06-08-2008, 06:12 PM
great Rafa! :yeah:

Denise
06-08-2008, 07:54 PM
Spadea :lol:

Bernard Black
06-08-2008, 08:00 PM
Would have been funny if Federer retired in that last set to keep his record intact ;)

star
06-08-2008, 08:16 PM
I applaud the jinxing ability of the thread starter.

luie
06-08-2008, 10:00 PM
It seems like great players have a tendancy to get bagelled @ RG.FED got bagelled by rafter in 1999,,sampras got bagelled by kafelnikov in 1996 and now fed again to nadal..

Guccionefan
06-09-2008, 08:40 AM
Federer was bagelled in his 3 set loss to Rafael Nadal in the French Open. This was the fist time he was bagelled since 9 years ago. Is it a sign of Federer poor form or was it Nadal's stunning dominance on clay?

leng jai
06-09-2008, 08:46 AM
http://sf.startupweekend.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/o_rly.jpg

http://netninja.com/images/lj/ya_rly.jpg

http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module2/80156/nowai_qjpreviewth.jpg

Bibberz
06-09-2008, 08:52 AM
^^^ That is too damn funny.

groundstroke
06-09-2008, 09:04 AM
Federer's poor form on clay, Nadal is of course improving but Federer had chances in that match.

njorker
06-09-2008, 09:11 AM
Should we feel bad for Fed? Nah, I don't think so. He 'deserves' (for lack of a better word) a good thrashing now and again. He must know that he's precariously sitting at #1 though I think he will remain #1 for a long time still. And he has Wimbly to look forward to.

So, yes, I feel ecstatic that he got bagelled on a GS final! Haha, funniest (most embarassing for him?) thing ever! ;)

groundstroke
06-09-2008, 09:13 AM
Should we feel bad for Fed? Nah, I don't think so. He 'deserves' (for lack of a better word) a good thrashing now and again. He must know that he's precariously sitting at #1 though I think he will remain #1 for a long time still. And he has Wimbly to look forward to.

So, yes, I feel ecstatic that he got bagelled on a GS final! Haha, funniest (most embarassing for him?) thing ever! ;)
He did bagel Nadal 2 years ago in Wimbledon if you don't remember?
He needs to get defeated to the extreme now and then just like you said, just so he knows the level between him and all the others is closing and he'll need to train/play better.

njorker
06-09-2008, 09:18 AM
He did bagel Nadal 2 years ago in Wimbledon if you don't remember?
He needs to get defeated to the extreme now and then just like you said, just so he knows the level between him and all the others is closing and he'll need to train/play better.

Well, it wasn't a final that he bagelled Nadal in Wimbly. So, I think this is more embarassing for him than it was for Nadal when he was bagelled. Just my two cents... :) But really, this is probably one of those rare moments that Fed will get a bagel, so I'm just enjoying the moment while it lasts... :D

Kolya
06-09-2008, 09:23 AM
Hmm

Snowwy
06-09-2008, 09:25 AM
^^^ That is too damn funny.

Encouraging clowns is never a smart idea..

YANIVMUS
06-09-2008, 09:40 AM
ITS A RECORD. NO ANY OTHER PLAYER KEEPED 9 YEARS AND ITS 714 GAMES WITHOUT bagelled, BY FAR

SAMPRAS SECOND WITH 351 GAMES BETWEEN 1992 TO 1996

Bilbo
06-09-2008, 09:42 AM
federer is on the downhill. doesn't surprise me he got bagelled.

madmanfool
06-09-2008, 09:46 AM
Well, it wasn't a final that he bagelled Nadal in Wimbly. So, I think this is more embarassing for him than it was for Nadal when he was bagelled. Just my two cents... :) But really, this is probably one of those rare moments that Fed will get a bagel, so I'm just enjoying the moment while it lasts... :D

it was a final

Sunset of Age
06-09-2008, 10:21 AM
Well, it wasn't a final that he bagelled Nadal in Wimbly. So, I think this is more embarassing for him than it was for Nadal when he was bagelled. Just my two cents... :) But really, this is probably one of those rare moments that Fed will get a bagel, so I'm just enjoying the moment while it lasts... :D

Alzheimer? Huntington?

Wimbly 2006-final, first set.

groundstroke
06-09-2008, 10:23 AM
Well, it wasn't a final that he bagelled Nadal in Wimbly. So, I think this is more embarassing for him than it was for Nadal when he was bagelled. Just my two cents... :) But really, this is probably one of those rare moments that Fed will get a bagel, so I'm just enjoying the moment while it lasts... :D
It was a final, but hey, enjoy your moment. But a sweeter moment is when Roddick beat Federer this year - that was sweet. :lol:

cmb
06-09-2008, 11:50 AM
fed tanked, why try any harder, he knows he has not trained hard enough to keep up with nadal on the dirt. To me it seems like he has not trained very hard for about a year now. After the FO last year ( which was a good match), it seemed like his level of focus and intensity dropped. Several errors in the final against nadal at Wimby, and then he was lucky to get by Djoker in NYC final, match was verry close. And this year has been pretty much get ahead and stay ahead..if he gets behind there is not much fight like there used to be. Excuses: got sick, mentally tired. This is true, and both are valid excuses. So we will see how he counters this in the next year to 2 years.

he has the tools, just needs to get the work ethic back

Burrow
06-09-2008, 12:06 PM
Well, it wasn't a final that he bagelled Nadal in Wimbly. So, I think this is more embarassing for him than it was for Nadal when he was bagelled. Just my two cents... :) But really, this is probably one of those rare moments that Fed will get a bagel, so I'm just enjoying the moment while it lasts... :D

:rolls:

so who did federer play in the final that year?

Burrow
06-09-2008, 12:09 PM
fed tanked, why try any harder, he knows he has not trained hard enough to keep up with nadal on the dirt. To me it seems like he has not trained very hard for about a year now. After the FO last year ( which was a good match), it seemed like his level of focus and intensity dropped. Several errors in the final against nadal at Wimby, and then he was lucky to get by Djoker in NYC final, match was verry close. And this year has been pretty much get ahead and stay ahead..if he gets behind there is not much fight like there used to be. Excuses: got sick, mentally tired. This is true, and both are valid excuses. So we will see how he counters this in the next year to 2 years.

he has the tools, just needs to get the work ethic back

You get mononucleosis and then try do every day sort of things, that would be hard enough, never mind playing top flight tennis.

cobalt60
06-09-2008, 12:16 PM
You get mononucleosis and then try do every day sort of things, that would be hard enough, never mind playing top flight tennis.

I have been actually thinking the same.

Tennis-Engineer
06-09-2008, 12:22 PM
9 years is too much.Nalbandian was close to bagel him in TMC final 2005.

MacTheKnife
06-09-2008, 12:28 PM
You get mononucleosis and then try do every day sort of things, that would be hard enough, never mind playing top flight tennis.

This has been well underplayed by the media and Fed. I heard Mac talk about it more realistically than anyone at some point during this tournament, and he said it outright, "this is a much bigger deal than Roger is making it out to be".
Although, I don't think it would have made much difference yesterday, there's no doubt in my mind, in 2008 the mono is still having it's affects on Fed. I had a friend that had it years ago, and it was 4 to 6 months before he was back to 100%, and he no where near did what these guys do.
The remainder of the year should be interesting. I really don't expect to see a 100% healthy Fed until the US Open..

platinum
06-09-2008, 02:30 PM
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Jogy
06-09-2008, 02:43 PM
Even more funny it happened in a Slam final. And one of the fastest since dozens of years.

DDrago2
06-09-2008, 02:48 PM
I think Nadal realy wanted to baggel him, where Federer didn't seem to care that much to prevent it

bokehlicious
06-09-2008, 02:58 PM
Bagel hh: Fed leads 2-1
Breadstick hh: Fed leads 3-2

:rocker2: