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Can Marat beat Donkey in round 2?

RickDaStick
05-24-2008, 12:12 AM
I think so:wavey:

Henry Chinaski
05-24-2008, 12:14 AM
I think no

bad gambler
05-24-2008, 12:14 AM
Is Marat going to win Rd1?

RickDaStick
05-24-2008, 12:16 AM
Is Marat going to win Rd1?

Safin will triple bagel Lisnard. perhaps 4,4 and 4

GlennMirnyi
05-24-2008, 12:17 AM
If Safin doesn't lose in R1 it will be a surprise already,.

Black Raven
05-24-2008, 12:18 AM
No. Kolya will destroy him :wavey:

Albop
05-24-2008, 12:20 AM
Can lisnard beat donkey is second round ?

Manon
05-24-2008, 12:23 AM
Hope not.

michellej
05-24-2008, 12:26 AM
Can Marat beat Davydenko? Of course?

Will Marat beat Davydenko? Maybe yes, maybe no.....

Roland9
05-24-2008, 12:42 AM
Is Marat going to win Rd1?

Better question, really.

Anyway, I don't see Safin keeping his game (head) up to take 3 sets from Davydenko.

Kolya
05-24-2008, 01:16 AM
He can.

dam0dred
05-24-2008, 01:32 AM
Marat CAN beat anyone at anytime.

But we all know that he probably won't.

tennisfan444
05-24-2008, 01:36 AM
Can Marat beat Davydenko? Of course?

Will Marat beat Davydenko? Maybe yes, maybe no.....

Well said, I agree

Merton
05-24-2008, 03:07 AM
Davydenko should win comfortably against Tojo but I am not sure if Marat will go past Lisnard.

gulzhan
05-24-2008, 03:16 AM
Stop jinxing! :mad: Marat got lucky with the first match so.... Hope he will play aginst Kolya in 2nd round :ras:

luxsword
05-24-2008, 08:16 AM
Can Marat beat Davydenko? Of course?

Will Marat beat Davydenko? Maybe yes, maybe no.....

Precisely. :worship:

Btw, nice to see GM believes Marat will pass R1. :rocker:

zeleni
05-24-2008, 08:35 AM
No. Davydenko will win.

Acer
05-24-2008, 08:42 AM
In short, no.

PiggyGotRoasted
05-24-2008, 09:26 AM
Can davydenko beat wawrinka in the sf?

Bilbo
05-24-2008, 09:30 AM
Donkey is playing his best where the big money is. This means Safin has no chance.

Renaud
05-24-2008, 09:31 AM
Super JR will beat them both

Mateya
05-24-2008, 09:32 AM
Nikolay DOES NOT lose early (or tank) in grand slams. :worship:

I think you got the answer.

Julio
05-24-2008, 09:36 AM
Jean-René will kill him before this.

ImmzB
05-24-2008, 10:12 AM
Ofcouse Safin can beat Davydenko

Safin can beat any-1 on his day!!

Jimnik
05-24-2008, 10:18 AM
No.

And btw, Davydenko is a better clay player than Safin ever was so this isn't just a question of current form.

groundstroke
05-24-2008, 10:59 AM
That would mean he would have to win 2 matches in a row and Safin can't do that.

Burrow
05-24-2008, 11:06 AM
Davydenko is playing in an era with only just a couple of real clay court players contending, Safin at his finest played in an era full of clay courters, you can't compare results and even if you did their wouldn't be much in it.

And yes, Safin can win the match, definately possible.

Burrow
05-24-2008, 11:06 AM
That would mean he would have to win 2 matches in a row and Safin can't do that.

Half of your post count comes from saying just that...

And he won 4 matches in a row at Hamburg last week... :confused:

~EMiLiTA~
05-24-2008, 11:10 AM
The first question should be "can Marat beat the qualie in round 1?".

foul_dwimmerlaik
05-24-2008, 11:38 AM
Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but Marat is not in rd. 2 yet. He might not get there at all.

Blue Heart24
05-24-2008, 12:08 PM
So Ivan Choker can beat him in R3?

No way.

Donkey for the SF's.

Jaap
05-24-2008, 12:31 PM
Does this tournament have high prize money?

Is the currency the Euro?

If the answer to the two questions are yes, then Donkey won't be losing this.

Bilbo
05-24-2008, 12:41 PM
Does this tournament have high prize money?

Is the currency the Euro?

If the answer to the two questions are yes, then Donkey won't be losing this.

the answer to both questions is 'yes'

arm
05-24-2008, 12:44 PM
:haha: is this even a real question?

adachi
05-24-2008, 12:53 PM
I hope so !

Jimnik
05-24-2008, 01:02 PM
Davydenko is playing in an era with only just a couple of real clay court players contending, Safin at his finest played in an era full of clay courters, you can't compare results and even if you did their wouldn't be much in it.

And yes, Safin can win the match, definately possible.
So you're saying that the 2002 generation of clay players are better than the current generation? Interesting theory.

Even if you're right it doesn't excuse Safin from winning only two titles on clay compared with five from Davydenko. Not to mention Safin has only twice made it past the last 16 at RG compared to three times by Davydenko.

You can even make a direct comparison with a couple of players they played at RG: Robredo and Nalbandian. Safin lost to both of them, Davydenko beat both of them.

Davydenko at his peak on clay > Safin at his peak on clay

rocketassist
05-24-2008, 04:45 PM
Safin has no chance. Like he can run and move for five sets now to beat a machine like the PMK.

Tennis Fool
05-24-2008, 07:38 PM
I hear Davydenko is carrying an injury into RG...

stebs
05-24-2008, 07:42 PM
Marat CAN beat anyone at anytime.

But we all know that he probably won't.

Ofcouse Safin can beat Davydenko

Safin can beat any-1 on his day!!

So when was the last time Safin beat someone of the caliber of Davydenko in a slam? Not for several years.

Safin HAD the ability to win these kind of matches (though even in his prime I don't think he would be favourite) but these days it would take a frighteninly poor performance from Davydenko for it to occur. Of course, it IS possible, but as unlikely as anyone outside the top 32 upsetting one of the best claycourters in the world.

Ivanatis
05-24-2008, 08:08 PM
No way.

rocketassist
05-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Ofcouse Safin can beat Davydenko

Safin can beat any-1 on his day!!

Not anymore he can't. :wavey:

Burrow
05-24-2008, 08:22 PM
So when was the last time Safin beat someone of the caliber of Davydenko in a slam? Not for several years.

Safin HAD the ability to win these kind of matches (though even in his prime I don't think he would be favourite*) but these days it would take a frighteninly poor performance from Davydenko for it to occur. Of course, it IS possible, but as unlikely as anyone outside the top 32 upsetting one of the best claycourters in the world.

Yes, and why hasn't he anymore? Can anybody say...injury? Marat would probably still be ranked higher than Davydenko if it wasn't for him playing injured in 2005 and messing up his knee big style.

People seem to ignore this and think he slipped down the rankings for nothing.
He couldn't play Madrid Masters, Paris Masters and the Australian open in late 2005 and 2006.

* lawl

dsingh7
05-24-2008, 08:46 PM
Davy is ball machine ..i don't see him loosing to virtually retired Safin

Emmaloo
05-24-2008, 08:52 PM
As much as I like Marat the facts speak for themselves.

The two times they have played on clay Marat has gone down.

michellej
05-24-2008, 09:29 PM
I hope that Safin's success at Hambutg carries through to RG ..he played 5 matches and lost the 5th, better than he's done for a long time. Maybe he should play a challenger just before RG and get warmed up. LOL

stebs
05-24-2008, 10:48 PM
Yes, and why hasn't he anymore? Can anybody say...injury? Marat would probably still be ranked higher than Davydenko if it wasn't for him playing injured in 2005 and messing up his knee big style.

People seem to ignore this and think he slipped down the rankings for nothing.
He couldn't play Madrid Masters, Paris Masters and the Australian open in late 2005 and 2006.

* lawl

Yes injury. So what? Doesn't make it any less true. What makes you think I ignored that fact? It wasn't relevant to the point I was making.

You think it's ridiculous tht Davydenko at his best on clay should be considered equal with Safin? His GS results are better are they not?

leng jai
05-24-2008, 10:51 PM
Burro having another cry :zzz:

drf716
05-25-2008, 10:51 AM
Is Marat going to win Rd1?

oh well at least i can face reality earlier...but NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! hehe.

elessar
05-25-2008, 10:57 AM
For sure :worship: he's training with Roger right now, if that doesn't get him the W I don't what will :inlove: