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Roland Garros 2008

soulage
05-22-2008, 06:23 PM
So I open the thread :angel:

http://www.sport24.com/var/plain_site/storage/images/tennis/roland-garros/actualites/80-ans-et-un-bel-avenir-141182/2394534-1-fre-FR/80-ans-et-un-bel-avenir_actus.jpg



Single Draw pulls out tomorrow and Doubles Draw will be available on Monday. First round begins on sunday : 16 men's single will be played this day.

What can we expect of this tournament? :confused:

Marine
05-22-2008, 07:03 PM
What can we expect of this tournament ?

Nothing...like him !
Just some fun if I have the chance to see him on wednesday.

soulage
05-23-2008, 10:12 AM
If I know reading, he has got Verdasco

Cerise
05-23-2008, 10:56 AM
Arnaud will play Gael Monfils in the first roud

soulage
05-23-2008, 11:37 AM
When I watch the draw wasn't donne in fact. It was only position.

Monfils is a little bit injured but don't worry Arnaud can loose!

Via
05-23-2008, 01:01 PM
not a top player as we had hoped :p but they'll get a better court, i hope.

if anyone's going... enjoy RG! :)

higherlaw
05-23-2008, 01:09 PM
Nothing...like him !
Just some fun if I have the chance to see him on wednesday.

That will be great! How many days are you going?? I know you will bring him good luck :cool:.

soulage
05-23-2008, 01:43 PM
Yes I think they will get a "big" court and hopfully we could see the match on tv:)

There is always something positive :)

Bobble
05-23-2008, 02:07 PM
i think this could be a good match. arnaud built at least a bit of confidence this last week, and gael looked slightly injured at the end of his run in casablanca. i still see la monf coming out ahead

Hangdog
05-23-2008, 06:57 PM
Verdasco could be a better option! lol Against Gael there is also a Frenchman vs Frenchman thing (must be fun to watch anyway).
Well... now let's wait for the doubles draw :)
What can we expect of this tournament? :confused:
Devilder to kick Nadal's ass and then win the whole thing :rocker2:

Marine
05-23-2008, 07:53 PM
Verdasco could be a better option! lol Against Gael there is also a Frenchman vs Frenchman thing (must be fun to watch anyway).
It' not fun at all to see, these frenchmen matches. Especially when the crowd is french.


Devilder to kick Nadal's ass and then win the whole thing :rocker2:

If only !!!!!!!!! lol

Via
05-24-2008, 01:03 AM
Verdasco could be a better option! lol Against Gael there is also a Frenchman vs Frenchman thing (must be fun to watch anyway).
Well... now let's wait for the doubles draw :)

Devilder to kick Nadal's ass and then win the whole thing :rocker2:

really? is that the first round? :aplot: interesting match, if only... i can see it :D

Kezzi
05-24-2008, 09:54 PM
Verdasco could be a better option! lol Against Gael there is also a Frenchman vs Frenchman thing (must be fun to watch anyway).
Well... now let's wait for the doubles draw :)

Devilder to kick Nadal's ass and then win the whole thing :rocker2:
In that case, I'll buy a tv for my colleagues with the condition they'll let me watch everything, even if it's only on a French channel :lol:

deanna
05-25-2008, 05:27 AM
GOOD LUCK ARNAUD! :woohoo:
Hope all who are going have fun and take lots of pictures for us :p :) !

Via
05-27-2008, 12:10 AM
Yes I think they will get a "big" court and hopfully we could see the match on tv:)

There is always something positive :)

that big court has now proven to be the big central chatrier... 3rd match on tuesday after nadal's match. maybe devilder will stay on watching :devil:

i don't suppose french tv will miss that?

even i stay hopeful from my room here in hong kong ;)

soulage
05-27-2008, 08:26 PM
Tomorrow same thing : third match on Chatrier if it doesn't rain too much :rolleyes:

Marine
05-27-2008, 08:55 PM
I won't see the match, I don't have access to the central tomorrow... :sad:

Via
05-28-2008, 08:08 AM
I won't see the match, I don't have access to the central tomorrow... :sad:

there are still plenty of frenchies on lenglen, or other courts. if it's me then of course i'd still be pretty :sad: but you're not me ;)

ps. devilder does get his man nadal :devil: and on friday we'll get to see the match on a big court :bounce: (unlike now, when arnaud is playing gael, and i get to see dear paulo)

soulage
05-28-2008, 05:55 PM
They showed a little bit the match on TV not all because PHM's match.

Arnaud started well even if the serve of Gael was already good. Arnaud lost his serve at the end of the first set at 5-5 and then lost the set 5-7.

In the second set Gael quickly led 3-0 and even Arnaud tried, nothing goog happened. He made many many faults especially on forehand (around 25 during the match :rolleyes:)

The third set was very difficult, he was drifting. At one moment he looked toward the stands probably toward Bruno and he was saying "Je peux plus, je peux plus " (I can more)

Of course he was frustrated and irritated, he discussed a lot with the umpire :rolleyes: He also discuss the match ball :rolleyes:

On his face at the end we could see a lot a frustration and maybe more, he seemed very affected by the match.

Gael didn't make a "big" match but his serve was strong and he accelerated when it was needed. Arnaud played "without" forehand and of course without confidence.

I hope Marine's day was better than Arnaud's match.

After the match

Le Parisien sait bien qu’il doit aussi sa victoire aux erreurs d’Arnaud Clément, furieux contre lui-même en sortant du court: «Cette constance dans la nullité, c’est quand même une grosse performance. J’ai trouvé ce que j’ai fait complètement nul du début à la fin.»

"This consistency in the nullity is still a big performance. I found what I have done absolutely zero from the beginning to the end."

Does it exist a solution ?

higherlaw
05-28-2008, 06:14 PM
Glad I missed it...

Marine
05-28-2008, 07:22 PM
well well well...I watched the last set, a nice lady gave my her ticket for the centre court... it was TERRIBLE :sad:
Arnaud was playing so, so badly, it was sad to see. Moreover he was in a bad mood, of course, complaining every ball, etc... he was booed but the crowd :o
On the ball match, stupidly, he contested the point, that was shoking. It was like he wanted to be hated by everybody. When I see his own comments, omg, I understand how much he feels so bad. :sad:
I hope he will make something in double, he can't leave RG like that.

ps: I saw benneteau and micka's matchs, how great ! :D Vive Micka !

soulage
05-28-2008, 08:38 PM
On TV we got also the impression that majority of the crowd was for Monfils. But good if you saw others interesting matches.

I collected some comments which I tried to translate (sorry)
C’est quoi, ton état d’esprit après un tel match ? Tu es énervé ?
"Un peu énervé, un peu frustré, un peu dégoûté, un peu tout à la fois. Un peu, je ne comprends pas. C’est un mélange de tout cela. Parfois, on peut sortir des explications, on peut dire "aujourd’hui, j’étais moins bon, car ceci ou cela" mais sur un match, au meilleur des cinq sets, avoir cette constance dans la nullité, c’est une grosse performance !"
Tu ne t’épargnes même pas jusqu’à 5/5 au premier set...
"Je trouve cela totalement nul du début à la fin. Tout était pourri, nul. J’ai été mauvais dans tous les compartiments du jeu. Il n’y avait pas un truc pour rattraper l’autre. C’est rare de sortir d’un match et qu’il n’y ait même pas un micro point positif quelque part. Il n’y avait vraiment rien. Je ne peux pas dire qu’aujourd’hui, j’ai fait correctement un truc, même correctement, il n’y avait rien. Physiquement, je suis en forme. Et pourtant, on a vu un mec hors de forme physiquement sur le terrain. Sur le court, c’est le seul truc dont j’étais sûr, aujourd’hui, je ne bougeais pas bien, je ne me sentais bien nulle part. C’était le match de la mort. Je ne sais pas ce que je peux vous dire d’autre."
Tu le sentais venir ?
"Pas du tout, j’étais content de jouer, de rentrer sur le court. J’étais très motivé. Il y a eu le premier set, puis le deuxième. Je me suis dit "cela ne peut pas durer ainsi, continues d’essayer." Eh bien si, cela pouvait ! Voilà. Après des semaines et des semaines de préparation que j’ai faites, pour arriver à bien revenir, sortir ce match aujourd’hui, moralement, c’est un peu difficile à encaisser. Mais moralement je suis fort, donc cela ira ! Pour les prochaines aventures"
Tu peux dire un mot du match de Gaël ?
"Il vous en parlera très, très bien à 19 h 15 !"
Pour sortir d’une telle période, parfois, on a envie de changer quelque chose. Peux-tu changer quelque chose...
"J’ai pété ma raquette, il m’en reste 5 à péter et après, je pourrai reprendre une série neuve. Changer, non, il y a des moments où c’est comme cela. Je pense qu’aujourd’hui, je manque aussi tellement de confiance dans mon jeu, dans mes coups que, peut-être que jouer sur le Central, sur une surface qui n’est pas la mienne, est encore plus révélateur qu’ailleurs. Voilà. Il faut que je retrouve la confiance, cela va se grappiller semaine après semaine, mais changer quelque chose radicalement, non. L’important c’est, dans une saison, de travailler régulièrement. C’est ce que je fais. Même si c’était nul aujourd’hui, ce sera sans doute pas nul toute la saison. Et si c’est le cas, alors là, il faudra peut-être que je pense à faire autre chose. Mais cette situation n’arrivera pas tout de suite. Voyez le mec qui, après un tel match, a une confiance de dingue ! Je suis monstrueux !"
Tu as déjà fait un tel match ?
"Sur un gros court comme cela, rarement. J’ai fait des matches moyens, mauvais, mais la qualité globale de ce match était tellement nulle. Il y a des parties de matches qui peuvent être comme cela, mais de A à Z comme cela, c’est hallucinant ! C’est comme cela. Il y a des choses plus graves non ?"

How is your mind after such a match? You are irritated?
" a little irritated, a little deprived, a little disgusted, a little quite at the same moment. A little, I do not understand. It is a mixture of all this. Sometimes, we can bring out explanations, we can say " today, I was less good, because this or this " but on that match, in the best of five sets, to have this constancy in the nullity, it is a big performance! "
You do not even save yourself until 5/5 in the first set
" I find it totally bad from the beginning to the end. Everything was rotten, awful. I was bad in all the compartments of the game. There was nothing to catch up the other one. It is rare to go out of a match and what there is even no micro points positive somewhere. There was really nothing. I cannot say that today, I made correctly one thing, even correctly, there was nothing. Physically, Im good. And nevertheless, we saw a guy physically outside on the ground. On the court, it is the only thing of which I was sure today, I did not move well, I felt good nowhere. It was the match of the death. I do not know what I can say to you of the other one. "
Did you feel it coming?
" iIn no way, I was happy to play, to return on the court. I was very motivated. There was a first set, then the second. I said myself " it cannot last so, continue to try. " Well if, it could! That's it. After the weeks and weeks of preparation which I made to manage to return well, bring out of this match today, morally, it is a little bit difficult to take.But morally I am strong, thus it will go! For the next adventures! "
You can say a word of the match of Gaël?
" he will speak to you about it very, very well at 7:15 am!
To go out of such a period, sometimes, we want to change something. Can you change something
" I cracked my racket, I have 5 there to crack and later, I can take a new serie. To change? no, there are moments when it is as it. I think that today, I miss so so confidence in my game, in my that, maybe that to play on the Central, on the surface which is not mine, is even more revealing than somewhere else. I have to find the confidence, it is going to gather week after week, but to change something radically, no. The important it is, in a season, to work regularly. It is what I make. Even if it was useless today, it will be not no doubtless all the season. And if it is the case, then there, I shall have maybe to think of making other things. But this situation will not arrive at once. See the guy who, after such a match, trusts yet ! I am monstrous!
" You have already made such a match?
" on a big court as it, rarely. I made average, bad contests, but the global quality of this match was so bad. There are contests which can be as it, but from A to Z as it, it is hallucinating! It is as it. There are graver things not? "

An article :
Arnaud Clément était abattu après son élimination au premier tour de Roland-Garros par Gaël Monfils mercredi: "Cette constance dans la nullité, c'était une vraie performance", a-t-il estimé.
"Sincèrement, c'était complètement nul du début à la fin, vraiment pourri, mauvais dans tous les compartiments du jeu. Il n'y avait rien qui rattrapait l'autre. C'est rare de sortir d'un match et qu'il n'y a même pas un micro point de positif", a grimacé l'Aixois après sa défaite 7-5, 6-3, 6-1.
"Le pire c'est que je ne le sentais pas du tout venir, même pendant le match je me disais que ça ne pouvait pas durer comme ça. Eh ben si! Après des semaines et des semaines de préparation pour essayer de bien revenir, sortir ce match là est moralement très difficile à encaisser", a-t-il ajouté.
Clément traverse une phase difficile depuis plusieurs mois -une seule victoire sur le circuit ATP depuis le début de l'année- et ne figure plus aujourd'hui qu'au 95e rang mondial.
"Si c'est nul comme ça toute la saison, il faudra peut-être que je pense à faire autre chose", a-t-il lâché, même s'il "aime tout dans le tennis sauf ce que j'ai fait aujourd'hui".

Arnaud Clément was down after his elimination in the first round of Roland-Garros by Gaël Monfils on Wednesday: " this constancy in the nullity, it was a true performance ", he estimated
" Sincerely, it was completely useless from the beginning to the end, really rotten, bad in all the compartments of the game. There was nothing which caught up the other one. It is rare to go out of a match and that there is not even a micro points of positive ", pulled the Aixois after the defeat 7-5, 6-3, 6-1.
"The worst it is because I felt hit coming in no way, even during the match I said to myself that that could not last like that. Well, yes! After weeks and weeks of preparation to try to return well, to bring out this match there is morally very difficult to take ", he added.
Clément crosses a difficult phase for several months - a single victory on the circuit ATP since the beginning of the year and does not appear any more today than the 95th
"If it is like that useless all the season, I shall have maybe to think of making the other things", he released, even if he " like everything in the tennis except what I made today "

And on the website of L'Equipe some adds :

Clément n'aspire qu'à «m'amuser, prendre du plaisir où que ce soit, en qualification, en Grand Prix ou en Challenger. Ce ne sera sans doute pas nul toute la saison. Et si c'est le cas, alors là, il faudra peut-être que je pense à faire autre chose. Mais cette situation n'arrivera pas tout de suite. Voyez le mec qui, après un tel match, a une confiance de dingue ! Je suis monstrueux !» Une dernière pirouette, lorsqu'on lui donne le DVD de son match : «Celui-là, je vais l'encadrer !»
The most important is to have fun, to take pleasure : on qualification, on Challenger or on "Grand Prix" and when someone gave him the DVD of the match he said : " I will frame it"

Marine
05-28-2008, 08:49 PM
On TV we got also the impression that majority of the crowd was for Monfils. But good if you saw others interesting matches.
Yes, it was the case at least in the last set when I was there, but it was a bit "normal", arnaud was pathetic. He helped the crowd to choose a favorite. It wouldn't has been easy to support him today.


when someone gave him the DVD of the match he said : " I will frame it"
:lol: At least he didn't lose his sense of humor and selfderision.

soulage
05-28-2008, 09:22 PM
In the third set, for sure, he sunk. I'm very impressed by his optimism :p

They don't play tomorrow on Doubles surely friday but Micka will have his third round same day? If they win he couldn't go to Surbiton.

Via
05-29-2008, 01:48 AM
:o

at least this match won't make the highlights of the day on the tv show.

we can understand his frustration when he explains it... but still, it's no excuse to embarrass himself and turn people against him on court. he sure is cementing his bad reputation :(

why can't he show his humour WHILE losing? it's not like he's expected to win. or is it? :confused:

thanks again soulage, for your comprehensive reports :worship:

Marine
05-29-2008, 05:04 AM
:o

it's not like he's expected to win. or is it? :confused:



Sure he's expected to win ! Monfils was not better on the paper...

soulage
05-29-2008, 05:39 PM
:o
at least this match won't make the highlights of the day on the tv show.

France Télévision has chosen it to be "the match of the day" on their website so if some people are interested by an useless match :devil:

You can see all the match here : http://roland-garros.france4.fr/index-fr.php?page=videos&id_rubrique=19&id_article=117

I don't know if it works outside France ?

Via
05-30-2008, 01:17 AM
France Télévision has chosen it to be "the match of the day" on their website so if some people are interested by an useless match :devil:

You can see all the match here : http://roland-garros.france4.fr/index-fr.php?page=videos&id_rubrique=19&id_article=117

I don't know if it works outside France ?

:haha: sure i can watch it... the whole 2 hours 6 minutes and 2 seconds of it in all its glory!!!

does higherlaw want to miss it again? ;)

anyway, arnaud is back on court today with mika, who's also playing in the singles. so we'll expect arnaud to carry the team when mika gets tired :devil:

higherlaw
05-30-2008, 05:03 PM
well well well...I watched the last set, a nice lady gave my her ticket for the centre court... it was TERRIBLE :sad:
Arnaud was playing so, so badly, it was sad to see. Moreover he was in a bad mood, of course, complaining every ball, etc... he was booed but the crowd :o
On the ball match, stupidly, he contested the point, that was shoking. It was like he wanted to be hated by everybody. When I see his own comments, omg, I understand how much he feels so bad. :sad:
I hope he will make something in double, he can't leave RG like that.

ps: I saw benneteau and micka's matchs, how great ! :D Vive Micka !

Nice that someone would give up their ticket to you!:D

It's too bad that you waited all year to finally see him play and than you have to witness what you did. I remember once you told me that it's hard to be an Arnaud fan; I guess you know that all too well...

Thanks soulage for the articles and translations. I really appreciate it! :worship:

soulage
05-30-2008, 06:17 PM
They lost 5-7 / 4-6

I followed it on scoreboard.

In the first set until 5-5 none break ball and if I don't make a mistake at that time it's was Arnaud on serve : they were leading 40-00 but they lost this game on the only break ball of this first set.

In the second set, they were leading 2-0, Cuevas-Horna came back to 2-2.

At 4-4, Micka lost his serve (I think it was him on serve)

So RG it's finish for Arnaud. I don't know what will happen with the qualification for Olympics Games now? They haven't win a match in doubles since Davis Cup!

Good luck for Micka in single anyway :)


I hope Arnaud will play Surbiton :devil:

higherlaw
05-30-2008, 06:26 PM
They lost 5-7 / 4-6

I followed it on scoreboard.

In the first set until 5-5 none break ball and if I don't make a mistake at that time it's was Arnaud on serve : they were leading 40-00 but they lost this game on the only break ball of this first set.

In the second set, they were leading 2-0, Cuevas-Horna came back to 2-2.

At 4-4, Micka lost his serve (I think it was him on serve)

So RG it's finish for Arnaud. I don't know what will happen with the qualification for Olympics Games now? They haven't win a match in doubles since Davis Cup!

Good luck for Micka in single anyway :)


I hope Arnaud will play Surbiton :devil:
Thanks. I feel like I want to start following a different sport...:p

Marine
05-30-2008, 09:42 PM
Micka is in 1/8 in single, I'm sure they didn't play as usually. He wants to stay focused on his next match.
I just hope it won't change their olympic chances !

Truc
05-31-2008, 08:41 AM
It does jeopardize their chances, but if Mika qualifies in singles, he will also qualify for the doubles and can say he wants to play with Arnaud then.
And Arnaud means they should get a WC if they need it anyway.

CLÉMENT OPTIMISTE. – Éliminé au premier tour du double avec Michaël Llodra, Arnaud Clément reste pourtant optimiste sur ses chances de disputer les Jeux Olympiques.« Ce match, je l’ai perdu tout seul, disait-il hier soir. Mais, normalement, ça devrait quand même être bon pour les Jeux. Des wild cards seront attribuées et je pense qu’on en aura une. On estquandmême12e et 13e auclassement! Je nous donne 95% de chances d’obtenir cette invitation. Mais, bon, s’il s’agit d’aller aux Jeux pour jouer comme aujourd’hui (hier), ça n’a aucun intérêt… »
He means they lost the match because of him only, but he thinks they still have a good chance to get a WC for Beijing since they’re ranked #12 and #13 (they have 95% chances to get it in his opinion). Now, if they go there to play the way he did yesterday, they can also just forget about it...

soulage
05-31-2008, 09:18 AM
Thanks

Because of Tsonga's injury and if Benneteau doesn't go in 1/4, Micka will go in Beijing. Anyway he could play double with Gasquet or Simon :p

To expect a wild-card :rolleyes: They are 12# and 13# but maybe far next week and actually that's sure they're no more the great team they were. And it's depend only of Arnaud's confidence which has disappear. How long ?

And I think Arnaud he's the more optimistic guy on earth :lol: He looses all his matches in single and thinks things gonna be better soon and in doubles he hopes to win a medal.... He's great :eek:

Kezzi
05-31-2008, 11:39 AM
Thanks for all the translations! :D

I love it that Arno is that optimistic, negative thinking doesn't get you anywhere.

Marine
05-31-2008, 12:56 PM
And I think Arnaud he's the more optimistic guy on earth :lol: He looses all his matches in single and thinks things gonna be better soon and in doubles he hopes to win a medal.... He's great :eek:

Yes, but the conditions will be very different. Not on clay, not in single, and the OG represent a big challenger for him, he's very motived. He plays better with "france" written on his shirt.
I saw him against Gael, I saw him in double against the Bryans in DC, it was not the same player... so I want to hope it can be different in 2 months. ;)

(and I'm not the most positive girl here... lol)

Via
06-01-2008, 01:52 AM
guess for arnaud right now, it's more important to defend his grass season points :eek:

he has to play himself into a better form :o

i don't think mika is allowed to choose his doubles partner as a qualified singles player, he can only do that if he's a qualified doubles player.

but to think that he's closed to qualifying in singles... it is a great reward for someone who has played so well this year :bounce: and in this form and with this confidence, he should do even better on grass...

Via
06-03-2008, 02:21 PM
can i just add, as a footnote to this (awful) tournament, that arnaud's singles conqueror has reached the quarters, and his doubles conquerors have got to the semis. and of course, may go even further. if it's any comfort... it was a tougher draw than it seemed.

Marine
06-03-2008, 07:56 PM
:worship:
It's always good to remember.

Via
06-07-2008, 10:56 AM
that doubles team is in the finals! :eek:

(another bow from you please, marine ;))

soulage
06-07-2008, 05:57 PM
that doubles team is in the finals! :eek:
And they won it :cool:

Via
06-08-2008, 02:32 AM
And they won it :cool:

and won the final easier than winning their first round against clement/llodra.

soulage
06-11-2008, 08:14 PM
In the Tennis Magazine of this month, they asked to the Ballkids, who were the players the most pleasant,unplesant, strange... during RG.

And in men tennis players, Arnaud won for the unplesant category with 25% :devil:

I think it's better not to know what was his words this year :angel:

Llodra, Benneteau are also quoted in this category

Marine
06-11-2008, 08:33 PM
I read it...no surprise ! lol
I don't know why the journalist doesn't comment the result of this catagery. Any journalist (tv, newspapers) never commented or critized his bad behaviour, it's weird.

Via
06-11-2008, 11:53 PM
In the Tennis Magazine of this month, they asked to the Ballkids, who were the players the most pleasant,unplesant, strange... during RG.

And in men tennis players, Arnaud won for the unplesant category with 25% :devil:

I think it's better not to know what was his words this year :angel:

Llodra, Benneteau are also quoted in this category

so who were the most pleasant? not a frenchie, i suppose :devil:

Marine
06-12-2008, 04:39 AM
Baghdatis I think.

soulage
06-12-2008, 11:29 AM
I don't know why the journalist doesn't comment the result of this catagery. Any journalist (tv, newspapers) never commented or critized his bad behaviour, it's weird.
They deal with it in some matches reports or articles but that's sure that they don't often stress about the insults or others stupid behaviours. Maybe more in foreign countries ?

The results are there:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=125477

sandy83S
06-12-2008, 04:45 PM
My son was ballboy this year with RG and he wasn't questioned on the players! I wonder how this classification is made! especially Arnaud into simple made a match to which I assisted and his behavior towards the children were good!

I wonder whether he isn't victim of his errors of the past! To see he playing it regularly is improved much since 2 or 3 years with the ballboys.

Via
06-13-2008, 12:02 AM
i suppose a little improvement is not enough with the kids... he must bribe them, or make a big apology :lol:

seriously reputation is built up over the years, especially if some of the ballkids have been around for a few years... they don't forget.

yes, i saw that thread on mtf afterwards. i wonder who's that fangirl who thinks arnaud is mean :aplot: