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Serve and Volley Players

Xavier7
05-21-2008, 11:07 PM
We all know that serve and volley players are becoming less and less common on the circuit these days. I think its sad that its dying out and wish they would speed up some of the courts especially those as Wimbledon. I was thinking about making a list of all active players who play this style. Maybe you guys can come up with some I have missed.

Tomas Berdych
Ivo Karlovic
Radek Stepanek
Jonas Bjorkman
Wesley Moodie
Robert Kendrick
Dick Norman
Max Mirnyi

Taylor Dent - hope he can come back soon and at least make it back to top 50.

John Isner - heard he is a serve volleyer but not seen him play so not sure.

Who else is there?

octatennis
05-21-2008, 11:09 PM
i would delete berdych from that list, and ad mario ancic...

GlennMirnyi
05-21-2008, 11:10 PM
Berdych? :haha:

No way man.

Zverev plays S&V when indoors.

El Legenda
05-21-2008, 11:10 PM
Karlovic? really?

octatennis
05-21-2008, 11:11 PM
ooooo i forgot... feliciano'' actor '' lopez and michael llodra.

Caio_Brasil
05-21-2008, 11:11 PM
Add Nicolas Mahut there :yeah:

schorsch
05-21-2008, 11:17 PM
Zverev definately.

Voo de Mar
05-21-2008, 11:19 PM
Berdych :confused: Only in doubles :lol:
...Chris Guccione,
Kiefer goes to the net often after 1st serve on fast surfaces, Mario Ancic, JF Tsonga, Mardy Fish as well

miura
05-21-2008, 11:27 PM
Mario Ancic

octatennis
05-21-2008, 11:27 PM
takao suzuki.

Jelena_78
05-21-2008, 11:36 PM
Dusan Vemic

GlennMirnyi
05-21-2008, 11:37 PM
Huge Takao. :worship: The Japanese Tiger.

Rohan Bopanna, Aisam Ul-Haq Qureshi too.

Henry Chinaski
05-21-2008, 11:45 PM
Ivan Navarro

Alexander Peya from what I remember.

A few of the mug Americans s/v a lot too. Amer Delic, Rajeev Ram.
Frank Dancevic does a lot too.

BaggyGreen92
05-21-2008, 11:50 PM
Chris Guccione. Nice variation in serves and solid volleys. However, crappy groundstrokes. Is there a pure serve and volleyer with great groundstrokes?

GlennMirnyi
05-21-2008, 11:54 PM
Why would someone play S&V having "great groundstrokes"? :rolleyes:

Snowwy
05-22-2008, 12:08 AM
Dancevic..

daddy
05-22-2008, 12:18 AM
Mario Ancic

leng jai
05-22-2008, 12:22 AM
Ancic is not strictly a serve and volleyer, but he does employ the tactic quite often.

Henry Chinaski
05-22-2008, 12:25 AM
True, but the same can be said of the majority of the players mentioned so far.

Tsonga has far and away the best groundstrokes of someone who could be considered a serve/volleyer.

leng jai
05-22-2008, 12:29 AM
The fact of the matter is, genuine serve and volleyers are few and far between these days. In a decade they will be extinct and volleying will be reduced to WTA standards.

TankingTheSet
05-22-2008, 12:33 AM
Ivan Navarro is a good one, and unique because of tournaments he plays (clay), he won one clay challenger this year where his style of play completely stood out from the other 31 players in the draw.

Voo de Mar
05-22-2008, 12:34 AM
This isn't a simply issue because the tactics depends on the surface. Ivanisevic - for example - who was generally a serve-and-volleyer, was playing differently on every surface:
- grass and indoor: s & v after 1st & 2nd serve
- hard outdoor: s & v only after 1st serve
- clay: s & v only occasionally after 1st serve

For me a classic serve-and-volleyer is a player who goes to the net permanently on each 1st and 2nd serve regardless of the surface. I don't know nowadays a player who does it (excluding half-retired Dent) but I haven't seen all players on every surface...

RedFury
05-22-2008, 12:44 AM
Santoro. No real serve to speak of and likely one of the most unorthodox players in history -- but still a net-master and beyond.

Obviously, no one's image of a "true" S&V but as though as they came at net play.

Obviously not an ultimate great, but one of the most entertaining players ever. Actually had a chance against anyone at any given moment. Alas, his time is over.

Respect all the same.

Winnipeg
05-22-2008, 01:17 AM
Frederic Niemeyer

Acer
05-22-2008, 01:41 AM
I would definitely love to see more S&V, specially at Wimbledon. There's less and less S&V on the men's tour and it's non-existent on the women's (now that Justine's gone *sobs*)

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 02:37 AM
This isn't a simply issue because the tactics depends on the surface. Ivanisevic - for example - who was generally a serve-and-volleyer, was playing differently on every surface:
- grass and indoor: s & v after 1st & 2nd serve
- hard outdoor: s & v only after 1st serve
- clay: s & v only occasionally after 1st serve

For me a classic serve-and-volleyer is a player who goes to the net permanently on each 1st and 2nd serve regardless of the surface. I don't know nowadays a player who does it (excluding half-retired Dent) but I haven't seen all players on every surface...

Mirnyi. Why do you think he's barely playing singles anymore? It's not possible to do that because of the ridiculous changes the ATP has made to the game.

yonexforever
05-22-2008, 02:48 AM
Tsonga

Mimi
05-22-2008, 02:54 AM
pete :worship:
Chris Guccione. Nice variation in serves and solid volleys. However, crappy groundstrokes. Is there a pure serve and volleyer with great groundstrokes?

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 03:02 AM
Tsonga isn't a S&Ver.

Action Jackson
05-22-2008, 03:14 AM
It works the best to able to mix the two styles, not going into the net all of the time, but doing it enough to keep the opponent off balance.

Tsonga and Ancic aren't strictly S/V and neither is Karlovic.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 03:18 AM
You can't play S/V on every point in this day and age. With the great returners and routine passing shots that are around nowadays, strictly SV players like Mirnyi get creamed.

You have to mix it up with some s/v like Ancic and Tsonga to be effective.

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 03:35 AM
Bullshit. The ATP changed the game to favour baseline mugs. Great returners my ass.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 03:38 AM
Of course the ATP rigged the surfaces to favor baseliners :yeah:

The S/V dominated days of the 90's were just as boring as the baseline ball bashing mug days of right now.

The best time was early 00's when about anyone could be successful.

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 03:41 AM
Because courts were still fast. :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
05-22-2008, 03:42 AM
Bullshit. The ATP changed the game to favour baseline mugs. Great returners my ass.

I'm sorry when it was just serve fests on the fast surfaces and the ball in the play over the course of 3 hour match was less than the number of ball bounces Djokovic does, that it turned away people from game, changes had to be made.

Whether they got it right, that's debatable, but it had to be done, there is more to tennis than just hitting big serves.

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 03:44 AM
I'm sorry when it was just serve fests on the fast surfaces and the ball in the play over the course of 3 hour match was less than the number of ball bounces Djokovic does, that it turned away people from game, changes had to be made.

Whether they got it right, that's debatable, but it had to be done, there is more to tennis than just hitting big serves.

There was clay for those who can't appreciate what tennis is all about. :p ;)

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 03:45 AM
They were fastER than now, but they weren't ice rinks of the 90's or Minsk nowadays. That was REAL tennis :yeah: :retard: Ace, Ace, shank return and an easy volley, DF, Ace :yeah: :o

Whether it be the natural progression of the game, the ATP favoring baseline bashing as opposed to SV, or a combination of the two, the S/V style has died out.

If they were smart, they would make grass faster and clay slower, making it like they were playing on all different surfaces. Even though a hard court will never be a clay court in terms of movement, speed, or bounce, its coming far too close with each passing year.

Action Jackson
05-22-2008, 03:47 AM
There was clay for those who can't appreciate what tennis is all about. :p ;)

They even changed the clay making it quicker and using a lighter ball, but that was nearly always gets overlooked.

But most sane people can see that there is a lack of surface variety, speedwise these days.

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 03:47 AM
This is a huge bullshit. 2001 there were many net players in GS finals. In 2002 there were none. This is all very easy to explain.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 03:49 AM
This is a huge bullshit. 2001 there were many net players in GS finals. In 2002 there were none. This is all very easy to explain.

So it all changed in one year? :rolleyes:

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 03:49 AM
So it all changed in one year? :rolleyes:

Check the SFs of Wimbledon in 2001 and the SFs of 2002.

This discussion has been brought up countless times.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 03:54 AM
Check the SFs of Wimbledon in 2001 and the SFs of 2002.

This discussion has been brought up countless times.

Ivanisevic, Henman, Rafter, Agassi

Hewitt, Henman, Malisee, Fat Dave

Henman made both, so we'll take him out.

You make the argument that Goran and Rafter didn't make it back because the S/V style no longer worked because of W's court speeding up.

I could make the argument that Goran and Rafter were mugs in 2002 and Hewitt, Malisse, and Dave were all younger players that broke through

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 03:58 AM
Other S&Vers would take their place.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 04:10 AM
Other S&Vers would take their place.

Like who? Mirnyi? :rolleyes:

Who was #1 at the end of '01? The S/V specialist Hewitt :yeah:

Action Jackson
05-22-2008, 04:10 AM
2002 was a strange year.

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 04:20 AM
Like who? Mirnyi? :rolleyes:

Who was #1 at the end of '01? The S/V specialist Hewitt :yeah:

I know you're a clown, but I bet you can understand he wasn't the only S&V in the game then. He reached #18 in 2002 and made the USO QF losing to Agassi in four, so he wasn't as bad as you think.

But then you know as much about tennis as Rick James about fashion, so...

Merton
05-22-2008, 04:21 AM
There is certainly a generation gap for serve and volley tennis. In the 90s we had Sampras, Ivanisevic, Krajicek, Rafter. In the 00s, top players did not develop their games in that direction.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 04:25 AM
I know you're a clown, but I bet you can understand he wasn't the only S&V in the game then. He reached #18 in 2002 and made the USO QF losing to Agassi in four, so he wasn't as bad as you think.

But then you know as much about tennis as Rick James about fashion, so...

Insult my tennistic intelligence, nice tactic :yeah:

Unfortunately, it is about as effective, as, oh, S/V in the modern game :D

S/V had died as a style of game due to a variety of factors. You think it was purely because of the court speed, that's bullshit. Hewitt, Nalbandian, JCF etc. played baseline games even when they grew up watching everyone play S/V. The fact that there were little to no S/V players in that generation wasn't because of court speed :rolleyes:

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 04:27 AM
Baseline players couldn't beat S&Vers in fast courts. Max owned Canas in the USO, Federer too and he wasn't even the best S&V at the time.

Kolya
05-22-2008, 04:30 AM
Blame it on junior development and change in court speed.

Kids don't S&V because its too tough and they keep getting passed.

Wimbledon is a joke now, just like any other tournament.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 04:31 AM
Baseline players couldn't beat S&Vers in fast courts. Max owned Canas in the USO, Federer too and he wasn't even the best S&V at the time.

Canas has never been a fast court demon, but he didn't get owned in 01. It was a 4 set match that was rather tight in the 3rd before Mirnyi ran away in the 4th.

As for Federer in 02? :lol: So what? Mirnyi in 02 and 03 played the best tennis of his career while Fed was still a headcase. Proves nothing.

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 04:33 AM
Canas has never been a fast court demon, but he didn't get owned in 01. It was a 4 set match that was rather tight in the 3rd before Mirnyi ran away in the 4th.

As for Federer in 02? :lol: So what? Mirnyi in 02 and 03 played the best tennis of his career while Fed was still a headcase. Proves nothing.

As expected. Federer was always a great player. He was always dangerous since 2001, even though he wasn't 2003 JesusFed.

prima donna
05-22-2008, 04:34 AM
Guillermo Canas

Montreal / Toronto (http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/vault/draws.asp?TournamentID=421&TournamentYear=2002), Toronto, Canada
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Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 04:35 AM
As expected. Federer was always a great player. He was always dangerous since 2001, even though he wasn't 2003 JesusFed.

So?

Verdasco, Berdych and highly talented head cases like them have been dangerous their whole careers. Just because you beat them doesn't mean its a quality win.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 04:36 AM
Guillermo Canas

Montreal / Toronto (http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/vault/draws.asp?TournamentID=421&TournamentYear=2002), Toronto, Canada
ATP Masters Series, 29-Jul-02, O, Hard , Draw: 64
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Other than that, his record on HCs that year was 11-9, hardly astounding

prima donna
05-22-2008, 04:36 AM
Canas has never been a fast court demon.
Just stop it.

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 04:37 AM
So?

Verdasco, Berdych and highly talented head cases like them have been dangerous their whole careers. Just because you beat them doesn't mean its a quality win.

How dare you compare Federer with those mugs? :lol:

You cannot be serious.

n3gative
05-22-2008, 04:37 AM
hope Dent can make a strong comeback.

Merton
05-22-2008, 04:38 AM
One factor that may have been overlooked is the increase of serve speeds. I think that works against serve-volleyers, because if the ball does come back their reaction time will be lower and they might not have the time to get to a good position at the net.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 04:42 AM
Just stop it.

So are you going to make the argument that Canas was an awesomely incredible hard courter? He is sold on the surface, nothing more or less.

How dare you compare Federer with those mugs? :lol:

You cannot be serious.

I'm comparing the Federer of the past, the one that was a headcase and lost to mugs like Koubek and Sanguinetti INDOORS, and Massu :retard: Fucking Massu :o

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 04:45 AM
So are you going to make the argument that Canas was an awesomely incredible hard courter? He is sold on the surface, nothing more or less.

I'm comparing the Federer of the past, the one that was a headcase and lost to mugs like Koubek and Sanguinetti INDOORS, and Massu :retard: Fucking Massu :o

No man, his point is that Canas is a counter-puncher with the exact match-up to beat S&Vers and he couldn't at the time, exactly because the conditions were different.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 04:47 AM
No man, his point is that Canas is a counter-puncher with the exact match-up to beat S&Vers and he couldn't at the time, exactly because the conditions were different.

Oh.

Well in that case I agree :lol: Canas certainly does have the certain type of game to rip S/V players to shreds, as does Murray, but he is a massive pussy.

I thought you meant to say that Canas was an amazing hard courter and that i was a mug to suggest otherwise :lol:

prima donna
05-22-2008, 04:52 AM
So are you going to make the argument that Canas was an awesomely incredible hard courter? He is sold on the surface, nothing more or less.
In 2002 Canas won an incredibly difficult TMS event against formidable opposition, which was played on one of the slickest surfaces on tour, so fast that even to this day TMS Canada is used as a measuring stick for predicting success at the USO.

While Canas' game may appear to be defensive, he has a strong serve and has always played his best tennis against "fast-court" players, just ask Tim Henman how his affair against Canas ended at the Aussie Open, which is relatively slow and if anything negates a Canas weapon (first serve) that normally would be enhanced by a faster surface.

If Mirnyi defeated Canas, irrespective of his record on the surface (which is relatively decent when compared to how most players performed), it was certainly a notable victory and speaks volumes for the type of tennis he must have been playing.

I think we've all been spoiled by players like Federer and Nadal, so maybe the difficulty of winning a TMS event has been neglected by some.

If Canas won a TMS in 2002 -- he was playing some great tennis, period.

Action Jackson
05-22-2008, 05:00 AM
One factor that may have been overlooked is the increase of serve speeds. I think that works against serve-volleyers, because if the ball does come back their reaction time will be lower and they might not have the time to get to a good position at the net.

Well the racquets have helped the returner as well, so that proves the above to be true, along with other factors mentioned.

Cañas and Hewitt love playing serve/volleyers.

prima donna
05-22-2008, 05:06 AM
Cañas and Hewitt love playing serve/volleyers.
I think counterpunching has grown to be stigmatized by those who wrongfully categorize all defensive styles as inherently identical -- or even similar for that matter.

Hewitt loves eating the pace of his opponent, he's a fairly decent volleyer (which comes as no surprise, after all he is an Aussie), he's also one of those players that returns fast serves particularly well, with interest, I'd say.

As for Canas, he has excellent passing shots and his serve gets the needed boost on a faster surface, which translates into more cheap points being won, thus allowing him to invest more of his energy on the service games of his opponent, as opposed to wasting it all in a futile effort to hold serve.

Action Jackson
05-22-2008, 05:13 AM
I think counterpunching has grown to be stigmatized by those who wrongfully categorize all defensive styles as inherently identical -- or even similar for that matter.

Hewitt loves eating the pace of his opponent, he's a fairly decent volleyer (which comes as no surprise, after all he is an Aussie), he's also one of those players that returns fast serves particularly well, with interest, I'd say.

As for Canas, he has excellent passing shots and his serve gets the needed boost on a faster surface, which translates into more cheap points being won, thus allowing him to invest more of his energy on the service games of his opponent, as opposed to wasting it all in a futile effort to hold serve.

Well most people on this forum only started following tennis either in 2005 or when Djokovc started winning big titles.

It's just the same all baseliners are the same, which has been propagated for ages. Santoro, Andreev, Davydenko and Seppi all play from the baseline and have very different style.

Hewitt has the best topspin lob in the game off the BH side, he loves the pace. Speaking of this I'm going to bump up another thread soon and talk about Hewitt in another factor.

Cañas, it's always the same. He is better on slow hardcourts than he is on clay, but people see the ARG next to him and assume differently. The thing on the hardcourts is his backhand doesn't get exposed as much as it does on clay. He used to have an excellent rallying backhand, but over the time he doesn't get enough shoulder rotation, maybe the wrist problems as well.

When he passes on the backhand side, then he is very effective.

Hank777
05-22-2008, 09:23 AM
John Isner ... ?
He's sure got the serve, but I don't think he's all serve & volley is he ?:confused: I thought he stayed back all the time...

Jimnik
05-22-2008, 11:30 AM
Hopefully Dent can come-back, at least for a short stint. Good to hear that the young Harrison was serve-volleying in Houston. Hopefully he keeps that up.

Lack of grass tournaments and the slowing down of hard courts would make it more difficult for volleyers. But this just happens to be a generation of baseliners, nothing can be done about that. Americans, Australians and Germans have been replaced by Argies, Russians and Spaniards at the top of the game.

BodyServe
05-22-2008, 12:28 PM
Alexander Waske
Andre Sa

Also, Jurgen Melzer use the serve and volley sometimes.

timafi
05-22-2008, 12:33 PM
Wimbledon 2006 finals between Mauresmo and Henin(1 handed backhands and net game battles):worship:
Eastbourne finals 2007 3 hours of wonderful pure grass court tennis:worship: :worship:

with all due respect to the Lisa Raymond's of tennis but Mauresmo and Henin were the best net player in the game;well Henin's gone now and Mauresmo is struggling with injuries.

raffiki
05-22-2008, 12:44 PM
Ancic

Manon
05-22-2008, 01:04 PM
Anyone who'd been watched Edberg have to learn from him what serve/volley play is.

tnosugar
05-22-2008, 01:04 PM
this is becoming a list of players approach the net to hit a volley (and not necessarily succeed) at least once per match :)

Think Stefan Edberg when compiling

BodyServe
05-22-2008, 01:13 PM
Jonathan Marray is a serve and volley player from what i have seen last year at Wimbledon.

Karlovic? really?

He beat Hewitt at Wimbledon 2003 using 100% serve and volley on 1st and 2nd serve.
But i agree that nowadays it's not strictly a serve and volleyer.

By the way Federer always struggled against serve and volleyer that didn't give him any rythm. No wonder he lost to Mirnyi at USO 2002 (the match was disgracefully played on court 6 or 7 :o) and at Rotterdam 2003.

Jaap
05-22-2008, 01:16 PM
Andreev
Hernandez
Montanes
Volandri
Robredo.

keroni
05-22-2008, 01:20 PM
suzuki

he doesn't just S&V.

he C&C as well. on every point.

Johnny Groove
05-22-2008, 01:29 PM
Wimbledon 2006 finals between Mauresmo and Henin(1 handed backhands and net game battles):worship:
Eastbourne finals 2007 3 hours of wonderful pure grass court tennis:worship: :worship:

with all due respect to the Lisa Raymond's of tennis but Mauresmo and Henin were the best net player in the game;well Henin's gone now and Mauresmo is struggling with injuries.

Don't bring that WTA shit in here.

Forehander
05-22-2008, 02:11 PM
lol you seriously have to take Berdych out of that list. When we talk about serve and volley we are talking about players who constantly come up on their serves. Berdych's height is very suitable for the net game but his back of the court skills, with his smooth strokes are much superior.

And include Suzuki, this guy owns s0x.

Nathaliia
05-22-2008, 02:51 PM
Dawid Olejniczak :worship:

He's one match from qualifying to RG main draw, it would be amazing but he must beat Crapdeville first.

he's not a classic s&v player, but I've seen matches where he did it very often

Jimnik
05-22-2008, 02:53 PM
Bob and Mike Bryan deserve to be on the list more than anyone.

Forehander
05-22-2008, 03:02 PM
Bob and Mike Bryan deserve to be on the list more than anyone.

ya but they are doubles players though :)

ASP0315
05-22-2008, 04:30 PM
He beat Hewitt at Wimbledon 2003 using 100% serve and volley on 1st and 2nd serve.
But i agree that nowadays it's not strictly a serve and volleyer.

By the way Federer always struggled against serve and volleyer that didn't give him any rythm. No wonder he lost to Mirnyi at USO 2002 (the match was disgracefully played on court 6 or 7 :o) and at Rotterdam 2003.

i agree. Karlovic stopped using S/V on the 2nd serve recently and his forehand improved. He can play 3-4 shot rallies and end the point the net. Which wasn't the case in 2003,2004.( where is relied on pure S/V and tiebreaks.)
His bh slices are very enjoyable especially on clay.
Even tursunov and roddick praised his game. They were quite suprised to see him play well from the back.

Collective
05-22-2008, 04:31 PM
Karlovic? I think he is more Serve & :shrug:

ASP0315
05-22-2008, 04:33 PM
Are there any pure S/V players.(apart from karlovic.) who are inside top 30.?

ya but they are doubles players though :)

the thread title says just serve and volley player. it did not say serve/volley singles player.
In that case my vote goes Jonas Bjorkman and Max Miryni.(they volley even better than the Bryan twins.)

Iván
05-22-2008, 04:35 PM
Kiwi is one of the best serve vollyers out there.

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 04:37 PM
Karlovic isn't S&V anymore. He does that often, though, especially indoors, but so does Ljubo, Ancic...

GlennMirnyi
05-22-2008, 04:38 PM
Are there any pure S/V players.(apart from karlovic.) who are inside top 30.?

Rado "Sexy" Stepanek. :worship: