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Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

LCeh
07-06-2004, 06:57 AM
For the last 2 years, Roger and Andy seems to be alone out there. Andy's losses both came from Roger, and Roger hasn't lost one match for the last 2 years. Is there anyone else that can realistically beat them on grass?

I know Henman is good on grass, but he hasn't even been able to get far enough to play these 2 guys.

CmonAussie
07-06-2004, 07:08 AM
@@ Pretty obvious answer~~ Lleyton Hewitt!!!

Queens Champion(Grass)^2000, 01, 02
Rosmalen Champion(Grass)^2001
Davis Cup Final AUS(Grass)^2003
WIMBLEDON CHAMPION^2002

...--->> In 2004 he made SF at Queens(lost to Roddick) & QF at Wimbledon(lost to Federer)!

**Rocky Llegs is right up there, in fact I think he deserves to be 2nd behind Federer in terms of grass court pedigree, therefore slightly better than Roddick! But I don't care if you disagree>_<.

*Ljubica*
07-06-2004, 07:22 AM
Yes - I agree - Lleyton could beat either of them on grass, and Tim has a winning record over Federer on all surfaces. And Lleyton definately has a better pedigree than Roddick on grass.

CarnivalCarnage
07-06-2004, 09:14 AM
@@ Pretty obvious answer~~ Lleyton Hewitt!!!

Queens Champion(Grass)^2000, 01, 02
Rosmalen Champion(Grass)^2001
Davis Cup Final AUS(Grass)^2003
WIMBLEDON CHAMPION^2002

...--->> In 2004 he made SF at Queens(lost to Roddick) & QF at Wimbledon(lost to Federer)!

**Rocky Llegs is right up there, in fact I think he deserves to be 2nd behind Federer in terms of grass court pedigree, therefore slightly better than Roddick! But I don't care if you disagree>_<.

If you don't take into account recent trend, yes.

Auscon
07-06-2004, 09:41 AM
Lleyton

and Henman over Roddick

maratski
07-06-2004, 10:41 AM
Give Ancic some more time and he'll be able to compete with the best on grass. Mark P on his day can still be dangerous on the surface.

RonE
07-06-2004, 10:52 AM
Henman, Hewitt, Philippoussis, Ancic and also I think perhaps Karlovic if he develops more of his game can be a real threat on grass. I would have also said Andre of three-four years ago but his reflexes are not what they used to be so I don't think he's a serious threat anymore (though I hope he proves me wrong).

Bilbo
07-06-2004, 11:23 AM
Hewitt

oxy
07-06-2004, 12:06 PM
nalbandian

oxy
07-06-2004, 12:07 PM
maybe even nadal in years to come

Ferrero Forever
07-06-2004, 12:11 PM
i would say ferrero, bcoz he's just the best, but this year i really don't have that much faith in him. But i think ramirez-hidalgo will be very very good with experience

Action Jackson
07-06-2004, 12:13 PM
Fernando Gonzalez.

vene
07-06-2004, 01:33 PM
Well, Roddick got to the Wimbys final without playing anyone in the top-20........

Deboogle!.
07-06-2004, 02:30 PM
Well, Roddick got to the Wimbys final without playing anyone in the top-20........

Schalken was seeded inside the top 20 and is certainly a top 20 player on grass. Other than that, it's not his fault the draw cleared out for him :)

Plus, he beat Hewitt, Srichaphan, and Grosjean all at Queens, all very good top 20 grass players and all in straight sets and all who were in good form there.

That said, of course Andy and Roger can both be beaten on grass. Anyone can be beaten on any given day.

Ballbuster
07-06-2004, 03:53 PM
Any big server could beat them on a good day and with some luck in the tiebreaks

CarnivalCarnage
07-06-2004, 04:06 PM
Lee Childs.

Skyward
07-06-2004, 04:16 PM
Any big server could beat them on a good day and with some luck in the tiebreaks

Strangely enough, serve did not mean much in the final. In my wildest dreams I couldn't imagine that they'd break each other so many times.

silverwhite
07-06-2004, 04:18 PM
Hewitt and Henman, as already mentioned. Maybe Ancic in a few years time?

crimson
07-06-2004, 05:07 PM
I pretty much agree with what's already been said here. Hewitt and Henman have the best chances; and Philippoussis, Ancic and Nalbandian would also have a shot.

vene
07-06-2004, 06:38 PM
[QUOTE=bunk18bsb]Schalken was seeded inside the top 20 and is certainly a top 20 player on grass. Other than that, it's not his fault the draw cleared out for him :)

[QUOTE]

You're right, my mistake :) .

Havok
07-06-2004, 06:41 PM
Henman is the best shot. After Tim, its Hewitt and guys like Ancic and Philippoussis who need to serve out of their ass to have a shot at winning. Other than that, I can't really see anyone beating them when Roger and Andy are hacing a good day, but they can always have freak losses.

azza
07-06-2004, 10:00 PM
Wayne Arthurs

Fedex
07-06-2004, 11:09 PM
Henman for sure. With a combined 9-3 record over Federer and Roddick (6-2 over Federer, 3-1 over Roddick), and on grass. Of course i would of picked Henman over Roddick in the semis, but he lost before he was supposed to. :( . Hewitt, while a phenominal record on grass, Andy and Roger seem to have to much power for him these days. Look at how Roger's turned the rivalry around( was 2-7 at start of year, now 5-7 :worship: ) and also Roddick beat Hewitt convincingly at Queens. Mark will be a serious threat on grass, great serve, all - court game. I will expect we may see Mark in atleast 1 more Wimbly final. Nalbandian has a great all surface game, and has been in a Wimbledon final before, so he would be a huge threat to both.

J. Corwin
07-07-2004, 12:38 AM
Anyone can beat them on a given day but they're the best two grass players no doubt. Roddick is especially prone to lose on a bad day.

Roddickrokz91
07-07-2004, 12:51 AM
2005 champion?: Mayb Roddick,Federer AGAIN! or Tim Henman :confused:

Experimentee
07-07-2004, 06:05 PM
Ancic has beaten Federer before and came pretty close to beating Roddick. He had many opportunities but couldnt convert them, with more experience he would be able to beat Roddick. And of course he showed he could beat Henman.

WyveN
07-08-2004, 02:41 AM
I think Ancic will win Wimbledon within 3-4 years

Goenitz_196
07-08-2004, 02:45 AM
I just can't believe how lucky that sodding duck has been in tie-breaks. Schalken had quite a load of set points at Wimbledon.....

Crazy_Fool
07-08-2004, 10:27 AM
Any big server could beat them on a good day and with some luck in the tiebreaks
I agree. If a big server is having a good day and serving at his best, he could beat them, if he is decent along the ground(I'm not talking about Karlovic here).

Ancic is a big threat, Mark P as well. Henman and Hewitt have good chances too.