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It's Over - Rafa's Clay Dominance Ended In Rome

l_mac
05-03-2008, 11:30 AM
FEDERER, Roger vs Bye
CANAS, Guillermo vs NASO, Gianluca
STARACE, Potito vs CILIC, Marin
KARLOVIC, Ivo vs MATHIEU, Paul-Henri

GASQUET, Richard vs QUALIFIER
TURSUNOV, Dmitry vs ACASUSO, Jose
STEPANEK, Radek vs NIEMINEN, Jarkko
BYE vs FERRER, David

DJOKOVIC, Novak vs BYE
DARCIS, Steve vs LJUBICIC, Ivan
LEE, Hyung-Taik vs ANDREEV, Igor
QUALIFIER vs MONACO, Juan

GONZALEZ, Fernando vs TIPSAREVIC, Janko
QUALIFIER vs SODERLING, Robin
ALMAGRO, Nicolas vs CIPOLLA, Flavio
BYE vs NALBANDIAN, David

RODDICK, Andy vs BYE
LLODRA, Michael vs FISH, Mardy
BOLELLI, Simone vs QUALIFIER
SIMON, Gilles vs TSONGA, Jo-Wilfried

ROBREDO, Tommy vs CHELA, Juan Ignacio
MAHUT, Nicolas vs QUALIFIER
ANCIC, Mario vs LOPEZ, Feliciano
BYE vs DAVYDENKO, Nikolay

BLAKE, James vs BYE
SEPPI, Andrea vs SANTORO, Fabrice
VOLANDRI, Filippo vs QUALIFIER
VERDASCO, Fernando vs MOYA, Carlos

MURRAY, Andy vs QUALIFIER
SAFIN, Marat vs WAWRINKA, Stanislas
FERRERO, Juan Carlos vs KIEFER, Nicolas
BYE vs NADAL, Rafael

:haha: :haha: at Ferrer, Almagro, Nole, Nalby all being in Fed's half.

Rafa's little section is quite tough, but the rest of his half is :lol: Apart from Davy :scared: Still, Rome is the fastest clay tournament so maybe we should be a little worried about all the hardcourt specialists.

cmurray
05-03-2008, 11:35 AM
:spit:

Federer's got Canas in the second round? :rolls:

Yes, Rome is fast, but except for JCF, most of the problem for those guys on clay is that they have no idea how to change direction. Speedy clay isn't going to assist with that problem. :shrug:

l_mac
05-03-2008, 11:42 AM
Nole's quarter makes my heart sing.

cmurray
05-03-2008, 11:47 AM
Nole's quarter makes my heart sing.

:rolls:

Nalby, Almagro, Andreev, Monaco.... :tape:

Johnny Groove
05-03-2008, 11:47 AM
Chalk up another Rafa victory

acionescu
05-03-2008, 12:16 PM
I'm still mad about the second clay tournement with Nole in Fed's half! The only clay tournement when I'd see him gladly in Rafa's half would be RG! But, anyway, Fed's half :haha: :haha: Is anyone missing?

MariaV
05-03-2008, 03:42 PM
Am I the only one saying Kiefer/JCF :scared: :unsure:

And Wawrinka, should be tired, no? :o :o

But first he's gotta get past the first hurdle. :scared: :unsure:

maria_marie
05-03-2008, 06:34 PM
I think the draw is ok. the best quarter is the 3rd one (roddick and the piranha , wtf) but nole's quarter looks like a hell. Let' say he has a good chance to progress in Rome, the player that worries me most is Denko but Feli can make us get rid of him :devil:

Metis
05-03-2008, 07:57 PM
Linda you always start these threads early :mad:. And I had a more interesting thread title in mind (well it can't get more unoriginal than 'Rafa in Rome') :ras: :lol:

Anyway, Federer's and Djokovic' draw is :spit: :rolls:

And since some people (who learnt from their mistakes in Barcelona) have already made their picks, here we go again:


How far will Rafa go in Rome? (100 points at stake)

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF -
SF -
F - Metis, wildegirl05, yana
W- acionescu, Blaze-2004, cmurray, Getta, GuiroNl, hra87, Luvyoyoma1954, scarecrows, tennischeto, Xoman

hra87
05-03-2008, 08:50 PM
W of course.

Roddick :scared:

He might make it to the quarters :help:

GuiroNl
05-03-2008, 09:18 PM
A W

It's getting boring

Xoman
05-03-2008, 10:00 PM
A W

It's getting boring

Actually I don't agree. I see Tsonga there in Rafa's half. I wonder how far he will go. Will he be able to advance to meet Nadal in the semifinal? And if so, what would happen? I mean, obviously Nadal will win, but, what would be the score? (6-0 6-1? or 7-6 7-5?)
The only worry is Chela.

Also, it would be interesting to see what happens with Roger Federer in this tournament... But yes, Nadal is going to win. The surprise would be if he didn't.

Metis, thanks for writing down my prediction to this tournament for the MIT.

Metis
05-03-2008, 10:08 PM
A W

It's getting boring

That's what I said after Miami, but people want to play :shrug:. Anyway it's only 3 tournaments left on clay (at most) and then we're back to the suspense of predicting the losses on grass and HC. :lol:

l_mac
05-03-2008, 11:36 PM
Linda you always start these threads early :mad:. And I had a more interesting thread title in mind (well it can't get more unoriginal than 'Rafa in Rome') :ras: :lol:

:ras: I wait until the draw. I don't like running the risk of someone who refuses to change the thread title twice a day starting the tournament threads.

What was your interesting title and I will change it instantly? Unless it was something boastful. We are with humble in the Rafa forum.

Anyway, Federer's and Djokovic' draw is :spit: :rolls:

Fed's draw is pretty easy, thought I did laugh aloud when I saw that Nole and Nalby and Ferrer were in his half. Can't see him not making the semis. Final actually.

And since some people (who learnt from their mistakes in Barcelona) have already made their picks, here we go again:

Hmm. I will decide after I see how he plays tomorrow.

Metis
05-03-2008, 11:58 PM
:ras: I wait until the draw. I don't like running the risk of someone who refuses to change the thread title twice a day starting the tournament threads.

What was your interesting title and I will change it instantly? Unless it was something boastful. We are with humble in the Rafa forum.


it was kind of lame actually :lol: something like 'Rome 2008: the Eternal Clay King in the Eternal City' :bolt:

l_mac
05-04-2008, 12:01 AM
it was kind of lame actually :lol: something like 'Rome 2008: the Eternal Clay King in the Eternal City' :bolt:

What Would Rafa Do, Metis? Would he like the Eternal Clay King title when he has so much respect for every player in the draw? :o

Metis
05-04-2008, 12:12 AM
What Would Rafa Do, Metis? Would he like the Eternal Clay King title when he has so much respect for every player in the draw? :o

Who cares what Rafa would do? :shrug: It's not like he comes to pay a visit. :(


:lol:

l_mac
05-04-2008, 12:13 AM
Who cares what Rafa would do? :shrug: It's not like he comes to pay a visit. :(


:lol:

:bigcry: :bigcry:

What a terrible attitude :(

Getta
05-04-2008, 02:17 AM
Winner.

That's what I said after Miami, but people want to play :shrug:. Anyway it's only 3 tournaments left on clay (at most) and then we're back to the suspense of predicting the losses on grass and HC. :lol:

I assume you mean Rome, Hamburg and Roland Garros.
Well, Rafa will also play Stuttgart (tournament take place the week after Wimbledon).

Metis
05-04-2008, 02:33 AM
:bigcry: :bigcry:

What a terrible attitude :(

tough :shrug:

:rolls:


Winner.

I assume you mean Rome, Hamburg and Roland Garros.
Well, Rafa will also play Stuttgart (tournament take place the week after Wimbledon).

Getta :wavey:

Well Stuttgart is too far away; with the grass season the uncertainty about Rafa's results and therefore the interest for the MIT competition will increase :)

cmurray
05-04-2008, 02:38 AM
Put me down for the win too. :angel:

wildegirl05
05-04-2008, 03:05 AM
Final once again. i have stick-with-the-systemitis.

please tennis gods. one more fedal. :worship:

acionescu
05-04-2008, 05:59 AM
Put me for the win, Metis :hug: I have a " Momentary lapse of reason" :scared:

GuiroNl
05-04-2008, 08:03 AM
Actually I don't agree. I see Tsonga there in Rafa's half. I wonder how far he will go. Will he be able to advance to meet Nadal in the semifinal? And if so, what would happen? I mean, obviously Nadal will win, but, what would be the score? (6-0 6-1? or 7-6 7-5?)
The only worry is Chela.

Also, it would be interesting to see what happens with Roger Federer in this tournament... But yes, Nadal is going to win. The surprise would be if he didn't.

Metis, thanks for writing down my prediction to this tournament for the MIT.


Tsonga?

yana
05-04-2008, 08:24 AM
I say he'll make the final. But, Rafitito, you better prove me wrong and win that final! :armed:

neenah
05-04-2008, 04:01 PM
:rocker2: Vamos Raf

Foxy
05-04-2008, 04:49 PM
Write my name down for the WIN. I am hungry for points :banghead:

raven gypsy
05-04-2008, 04:57 PM
Please put me down for another W for the ever humble one! :)

nashty
05-04-2008, 05:07 PM
that final with ferru--tough match, no?

anyway, i think he's too tired now. but... oh well, tired or not tired, this is clay. so Rafa for the WIN.
*oh, and Rafa doesn't really want me not to earn points;) so, on to Rome!!!!!:D

platinum
05-04-2008, 05:15 PM
Win.

spriwi
05-04-2008, 06:18 PM
if i may join your game, write me down to WIN section :)

MariaV
05-04-2008, 06:39 PM
Anyway, Federer's and Djokovic' draw is :spit: :rolls:



Do you people have any doubts about the GOAT and future GOAT making it? I don't. :shrug: But let's see them battle it out again. :devil:

Uhmm, I know it's going to be hard and I wouldn't really like to play but I cannot quit now so put me down for W too.
Let's hope Rafa won't settle for less and is not too tired. :angel:

tennizen
05-04-2008, 06:53 PM
Put me down for semi again:)

l_mac
05-04-2008, 10:34 PM
Quarters.

NaDALiTa
05-04-2008, 11:59 PM
a win for me too........Fed's half is hilarious can't wait to see his matches :spit:

TMJordan
05-04-2008, 11:59 PM
Quarters.

:retard:

Rafa will win :D

Johnny Groove
05-05-2008, 02:18 AM
Yet another win in the books for Rafa here

Metis
05-05-2008, 04:00 AM
Update:


How far will Rafa go in Rome? (100 points at stake)

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF - l_mac
SF - tennizen
F - Metis, wildegirl05, yana
W- acionescu, Blaze-2004, cmurray, Getta, GuiroNl, hra87, Foxy, Luvyoyoma1954, MariaV, NaDALiTa, nashty, platinum, raven gypsy, scarecrows, spriwi, tennischeto, TMJordan, Xoman





Reminder: Current standings in the MIT competition:

GuiroNl__________ 260
MariaV___________260
nashty___________260
raven_gypsy______ 260
Xoman___________260

cmurray _________ 200

Blaze-2004 _______160
Denisse __________160
Foxy ____________160
Getta____________160
hra87 ___________160
NaDaLiTa_________160
platinum _________160
The Pro __________160
Tnn74 ___________160

acionescu_________100
Heavenseventeen___100
Luvyoyoma1954 ___100
scarecrows _______100
tangerine_dream ___100
tennischeto _______100
Xristos___________100

Agassi Fan_________60

GuiroNl
05-05-2008, 07:36 AM
Do you guys know what's up with Rafa's shoulder?

According to this article he has tendonitis in his left shoulder.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/pain-brings-more-gain-for-nadal-820766.html

MariaV
05-05-2008, 08:37 AM
:shrug:
Guiro, I wouldn't take it too seriously though.

GuiroNl
05-05-2008, 09:07 AM
Why not?

I really missed out on this shoulder thing, so I don't have any other information than that article.

MariaV
05-05-2008, 09:37 AM
Why not?

I really missed out on this shoulder thing, so I don't have any other information than that article.

Well, he had some strapping (tape) on his shoulder vs Starace and Lopez in Barcelona, he took it off during the first set vs Chela and seemed fine after that. And he didn't have any tape on his shoulder during the semis vs Gremelmayr or during the final yesterday.
What he said was that he had tweaked his shoulder a bit (felt some pain) at practice, probably because of getting used to the new balls and surface but that he was fine and it was more like a precaution.

I think The Independent is supposed to be a serious newspaper but right now we really don't know what's up. I know most athletes don't like to talk about their injuries/pain so... :shrug:

MariaV
05-05-2008, 04:00 PM
OMG during the Potito Starace vs Marin Cilic match they showed Rafa training on a practice court with tio Toni. Drilling his forehand. :hearts: :inlove:

l_mac
05-05-2008, 06:31 PM
Rafa :inlove:

Do u c wot I hav dun with the title - DO U???

Metis
05-05-2008, 06:42 PM
Much better :yeah: So it took you only 2 days to think of that? :eek:

:p :lol:

l_mac
05-05-2008, 06:45 PM
Much better :yeah: So it took you only 2 days to think of that? :eek:

:p :lol:

:lol: Flash of inspiration when I noticed Foro Italico at the top of the ATP scoreboard.

It will jinx him, of course. But I will change it for match days.

Metis
05-06-2008, 02:39 AM
:lol: Flash of inspiration when I noticed Foro Italico at the top of the ATP scoreboard.

It will jinx him, of course. But I will change it for match days.

No, don't change it, it's good; just add stuff as needed :D

MariaV
05-06-2008, 07:09 AM
Good flash of inspiration Linda, I don't know about jinxing but I wouldn't change it either! :yeah:

raven gypsy
05-06-2008, 11:46 AM
Tangentially Rafa related -- David Ferrer is doing the ATP blog from Rome. http://www.atptennis.com/1/en/blog/ferrer2008.asp

He mentions being on the same plane as Rafa from Barcelona to Rome and receiving text messages from Moya and Ferrero congratulating him on making it to he final in Barcelona.

The Pro
05-06-2008, 01:51 PM
Can you put me down for the win again?

I know am late. :sad:

Metis
05-06-2008, 02:03 PM
Can you put me down for the win again?

I know am late. :sad:

you're not late; the deadline is the beginning of Rafa's first match :)


BTW here's an update:


How far will Rafa go in Rome? (100 points at stake)

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF - l_mac
SF - tennizen
F - Metis, wildegirl05, yana
W- acionescu, Blaze-2004, cmurray, Getta, GuiroNl, hra87, Foxy, Luvyoyoma1954, MariaV, NaDALiTa, nashty, platinum, raven gypsy, scarecrows, spriwi, tangerine dream, tennischeto, The Pro, TMJordan, Xoman




So Rafa is playing against Ferrero tomorrow. Vamos! :D

tangerine_dream
05-06-2008, 05:48 PM
Metis, put me down for a win, please. :)

GuiroNl
05-06-2008, 09:24 PM
Actually I don't agree. I see Tsonga there in Rafa's half. I wonder how far he will go. Will he be able to advance to meet Nadal in the semifinal? And if so, what would happen? I mean, obviously Nadal will win, but, what would be the score? (6-0 6-1? or 7-6 7-5?)
The only worry is Chela.

Also, it would be interesting to see what happens with Roger Federer in this tournament... But yes, Nadal is going to win. The surprise would be if he didn't.

Metis, thanks for writing down my prediction to this tournament for the MIT.

I ask you again, Tsonga? ;)

NaDALiTa
05-06-2008, 10:56 PM
Forget about Tsonga he's out!!I hope Rafa will play the same he did against JCF in Monaco !Vamos!

l_mac
05-07-2008, 04:51 PM
GAH!!!!!!!!!!

Ferrero :scared:

I knew the thread title was a jinx :bigcry:

TMJordan
05-07-2008, 04:52 PM
He will still win, Linda.

l_mac
05-07-2008, 05:01 PM
Some of the MIT players are looking pretty silly now :o

Aenea
05-07-2008, 05:18 PM
Some of the MIT players are looking pretty silly now :o

Yeah we are :sobbing:

I'm back from a trip and I join a tourney only to see Rafa losing. :sad: He's human after all he must be tired after playing 2 straight weeks. He had good chance in the 1st set at 4-4 and 0-40 at JC serve but could not take it.
Well it's not over yet but Rafa doesn't look like winning this one. And he's receiving medical help :scared:

If it's too bad you better retire, Rafa. We don't need another injury now.

nashty
05-07-2008, 05:20 PM
RAFA!!!!!!!!!!!!:sad:

yeah, silly me for picking W though I knew he would be soooooo tired after barcelona. maybe this just tells us that he is no superman and that he needs rest.

I still have high hopes for RG though.:D

Rafa, take care. and sweep them all when you come back.

**Well, at least we have the ATP schedule to be :mad::fiery::mad: at.;)

tangerine_dream
05-07-2008, 05:24 PM
If Rafa's gonna lose to somebody on clay then I am quite happy that it will be JCF, who has needed a big win like this in like, forever.

Rafa will be fine. He definitely needs to take some time off to rest for Hamburg and RG.

So we all lost the MIT this week. :lol: That's what I get for bandwaggoning on all the "win" votes. :ras:

Metis
05-07-2008, 05:36 PM
GAH!!!!!!!!!!

Ferrero :scared:

I knew the thread title was a jinx :bigcry:

I told you you started the thread too early :ras: :lol:


How far will Rafa go in Rome? (100 points at stake)

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF - l_mac
SF - tennizen
F - Metis, wildegirl05, yana
W- acionescu, Blaze-2004, cmurray, Getta, GuiroNl, hra87, Foxy, Luvyoyoma1954, MariaV, NaDALiTa, nashty, platinum, raven gypsy, scarecrows, spriwi, tangerine dream, tennischeto, The Pro, TMJordan, Xoman



100 points wasted :(


We are all losers today so we can commiserate with Rafa :lol:

veyonce
05-07-2008, 05:40 PM
Just hope he will be 100% fit for Roland Garros. Wonder if he will pull out from Hamburg...

Aenea
05-07-2008, 05:47 PM
Just hope he will be 100% fit for Roland Garros. Wonder if he will pull out from Hamburg...
Depends how bad the injury is. If it's fatigue only he will play Hamburg I think. But if he's injured he'll definitely pull out. As I said before I'd gladly exchange #1 spot for RG'08+Wibledon'08 titles. I hope the heavens heard me.

hra87
05-07-2008, 05:52 PM
Thank you Rafa for faking an injury on our behalf!

MariaV
05-07-2008, 05:58 PM
Commiserations! :hug: :hug: Ah well, he can get some rest now and if he's fine play in Hamburg. :hug: :hug: :hug:

And I honestly don't understand those spectators who all run after Rafa but during the match cheer against him. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Jogg
05-07-2008, 06:57 PM
Rafa's foot looked awful :sad:

Xristos
05-07-2008, 06:59 PM
Just hope he will be 100% fit for Roland Garros. Wonder if he will pull out from Hamburg...

I think he will try and play Hamburg.

danielmom
05-07-2008, 07:21 PM
Hope Rafa's foot gets better and he will be ready for Hamburg.

Eden
05-07-2008, 07:39 PM
RAFAEL NADAL POST MATCH INTERVIEW


Rafael Nadal after his loss to Juan Carlos Ferrero at the press conference


Q. When did you first start feeling the problem with the foot?
RAFAEL NADAL: Well, the Sunday in the night. When I wake up for 6:00 in the morning for come here, I put the foot on the floor and I can't put the foot on the floor. So I call the trainer for my trainer for come to the room and put something for can go to the airport, and I did.

Q. So you were in pain when you were moving, when you were running on the court, were you?
RAFAEL NADAL: Well, you know, it's very difficult prepare in a match, you know. For sure Juan Carlos is a very tough opponent.
So especially if you are playing Masters Series and you are not 100%, it's impossible win the matches, no? Especially in this tournament. Every match is very tough and Juan Carlos is a very good player, so congratulate him. Today I wasn't play my best tennis, so I the true is I didn't feel very good on court. I can't put the legs on the floor with my power. I can't put the ball long, so every time I play very short because I don't have power in the legs. Because I have this point the point behind the foot, pain, so it was tough for me to. But anyway, I happy about my attitude: try to go on court and try to try my best.

Q. Were you close to not play? Were you hesitating not to play?
RAFAEL NADAL: Well, today in the morning when I wake up I say it's impossible to play, no? Later, I come here, prepare in the practice. I was in the doctor's, like yesterday and before yesterday, and they put special protection, very big protection. They put some cream, anesthetic cream, something like this, for didn't feel the same pain. Anyway, it's tough, because when the foot was inside of the well, I can't put the foot like this. I always went like this because I scared, no? So, you know, the calendar is impossible. Last week and in Barcelona everybody is talking about how you feel about the calendar and everything. I said for me going to be impossible four weeks in a row playing well, no? They told me, Yes, but you have already two playing very well. I said, Yes, but in a few days you going to see why it's impossible, and disappointing they going to see. Finally they see it's impossible, no? Just congratulate Juan Carlos, because this is an important win for him, I think. He's trying to go to Olympics, too, so important points for him. Just happy for him because he's a nice guy and a very good player. That's it, no? I just try to at home have some rest, and after try to go with my best feelings to Hamburg.

Q. You know that Etienne of the ATP is here. Are you going to talk to him and say the same thing you told us about the calendar, what you said in Barcelona? I know you have told him already, but do you think there is a chance that something can change, or you don't think anything will change?
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't have nothing to speak with this man, no? Not more.

Q. Don't trust him?
RAFAEL NADAL: Lose more time trying to fight for nothing it's very stupid, so I have it's stupid. Last year I have a lot of time lose a lot of time trying to understand why he doing these things, and he's impossible to understand. So right now it's not the moment for speak about that because I lose, and when I lose always the people think about it as an excuse for my lose. So I spoke about this in Monte Carlo and Barcelona when I win. When I lose I don't like to speak about these things.

Q. Does this mean your participation in Hamburg is maybe under threat because of injury?
RAFAEL NADAL: Hopefully no, no? Because two Masters Series without play in the best conditions on clay going to kill me, no? So I hope not.

Q. Every place where you lose you are unhappy for sure, but Rome you are more unhappy than somewhere else, or not, or all the same?
RAFAEL NADAL: For sure it's very important tournament for me here. Lose here is very, very tough for me just for everything, no? For the crowd because the crowd support me a lot always. So I just can say thanks very much, because probably I won in 2005 and 2006 for the support of the crowd. So that's tough for me. Very nice for me coming back here, but at the same time, very disappointing for me to come here without my best preparation. That's true, no? Finally, I can't do more, no? I play my best and I am here. I try to prepare with my best motivation the first two days here practicing: first day twenty minutes; second day one hour but without move and without play points, without nothing.
So it's very difficult to prepare for a tournament like this, no?

Q. (In Italian.) What was your feeling inside especially being used to winning so much? Was there any particular feeling that you felt losing today?
RAFAEL NADAL: The feeling is, well, normally I know more than you how tough is win a lot of the matches on clay and in every surface, so I am prepared for this moment because I know already when I go on court everything can happen and I can lose every day. Right now for sure I'm disappointing because it's very important tournament for me and important because I have chances for improve in the ranking and for don't lose points and continue to improve in the race. Disappointing for me I can't be 100% and I can't win, so it was tough.

l_mac
05-07-2008, 07:42 PM
:lol:

MariaV
05-07-2008, 07:55 PM
What are you laughing Linda? :o :o

Could someone please translate this blog? I understand this person wasn't happy that the spectators were cheering against Rafa but I don't understand the end with the Ferrari's quote.
How ungrateful can people be! :rolleyes:


Oggi Roma ha commesso una grossa ingiustizia nei confronti di Rafa Nadal, e francamente mi riesce difficile capirne il motivo (e accettarlo, se fosse vero quello che sospettano i maligni). Nonostante anche dagli spalti fosse evidente ciò che la tv stava chiarendo ai telespettatori – che, cioè, i piedi di Rafa erano in condizioni spaventose, e gli rendevano ogni spostamento non solo dolorosissimo ma anche molto difficoltoso – nonostante tutto ciò, dicevo, il pubblico del Foro Italico si è schierato apertamente in favore di Juan Carlos Ferrero. Ferrero ha, sì, vinto gli Internazionali d’Italia nel 2001, ma non è che questo suo successo avesse fatto breccia nel cuore degli appassionati. Anzi: fino a oggi, siamo sinceri, il bravo Juan Carlos non se l’era quasi mai filato nessuno. Per cui è evidente che il tifo “per” lui era un tifo “contro” Nadal.
Ora, tifare contro Nadal sarebbe iniquo dovunque, visto che Rafa costituisce un esempio non solo di sano agonismo ma anche di esemplare correttezza e di amore per lo sport. Ma tifargli contro qui a Roma è addirittura mostruoso, perché Nadal non è soltanto uno che ha vinto al Foro Italico per tre anni di seguito ma è uno che a questo pubblico ha offerto alcuni fra i momenti più alti e indimenticabili di spettacolo mai visti nel tennis contemporaneo. E, oltretutto, è uno che oggi, viste le sue condizioni di salute, avrebbe potuto decidere di non scendere in campo o di ritirarsi quando il dolore s’era fatto intollerabile. Rafa ha invece deciso di bere fino in fondo il calice della sofferenza per rispetto nei confronti del suo avversario e di quello che giudicava essere il “suo” pubblico. Non è stato ripagato come avrebbe meritato.
Perché? Enzo Ferrari, uno che se ne intendeva, era solito dire che “gli italiani perdonano tutto, tranne il successo”. A dargli retta, il motivo del comportamento del pubblico potrebbe dunque essere stato proprio la voglia di vivere un’edizione degli Internazionali che non avessero un vincitore ancor prima di cominciare. Non la condividerei, una spiegazione del genere, ma potrei anche accettarla. Mi auguro invece che non sia vero quanto qualcuno sospetta: che, cioè, il tifo “contro” Nadal fosse il tifo “per” Federer, e che il tifo “per” Federer fosse non il tifo per il mitico numero 1 del tennis mondiale ma quello per l’amico di Francesco Totti.


http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.it/1/blog.asp?LNG=EN

l_mac
05-07-2008, 07:56 PM
What are you laughing Linda? :o :o

Rafa's anger.

I don't think he'll be on Mr Disney's Xmas Card list.

MariaV
05-07-2008, 08:14 PM
Rafa's anger.

I don't think he'll be on Mr Disney's Xmas Card list.

Who cares. :lol:

platinum
05-07-2008, 09:12 PM
What are you laughing Linda? :o :o

Could someone please translate this blog? I understand this person wasn't happy that the spectators were cheering against Rafa but I don't understand the end with the Ferrari's quote.
How ungrateful can people be! :rolleyes:




http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.it/1/blog.asp?LNG=EN



Basically it says that the Italians were cheering for Ferrero because in reality they were cheering for Federer who is Francesco Totti's friend... Totti is a Roma player.... the Enzo Ferrari quote is that "Italians forgive everything except for success". They just want Fed to win the rome MS because he is Totti's friend...

platinum
05-07-2008, 09:23 PM
RAFA!!!!!!!!!!!!:sad:

yeah, silly me for picking W though I knew he would be soooooo tired after barcelona. maybe this just tells us that he is no superman and that he needs rest.

I still have high hopes for RG though.:D

Rafa, take care. and sweep them all when you come back.

**Well, at least we have the ATP schedule to be :mad::fiery::mad: at.;)

Yeah how could i pick win when this would be the third week in a row playing non stop, silly me :o

Xoman
05-07-2008, 11:13 PM
I ask you again, Tsonga? ;)

Sorry GuiroNI, I was away.

Yeah, I don't know why did I mentioned Tsonga ... :silly: I don't know what I was thinking.
Anyway, it doesn't matter now. I am devastated that Rafa has lost. :crying2:
It is a pity, it is going to be tougher now to reach #1 this year.

And now Ferrero has to reach at least the final because if not, I will be mad at him.

NaDALiTa
05-07-2008, 11:17 PM
:( It was bound to happen after all...i'm not really surprised,but i just can't understand why on earth did he play????His injuries always last forever and there was no need to play.I didn't appreciate Ferrero's reaction falling on the floor as if he won the final when he clearly saw that Rafa was injured (i guess my disappointement made the gesture unbearable :lol: )
I'm really glad that Rafa refused to comment on Etienne De Villiers so that no one would say he's a sore looser!Class Act :worship:

Get well soon and be ready for Rg it's the most important :)

Denisse
05-07-2008, 11:24 PM
i forgot to make my prediction...i was going to lose anyway. lol, i love how rafa sounds really mad at mr etienne.

Mimi
05-08-2008, 01:06 AM
:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

Mimi
05-08-2008, 01:37 AM
who is this Mr Etienne and what did he do?:confused:
i forgot to make my prediction...i was going to lose anyway. lol, i love how rafa sounds really mad at mr etienne.

Denisse
05-08-2008, 03:00 AM
Etienne de Villiers is like the ATP chairman, and i was just reading rafa's post match interview in the previous page when he was asked if he would talk to de villiers about the tournament schedule again, cause he already did.. (i think rafa doesn't like the the tournaments are so close to each other)and rafa answers the he has nothing to say to "this man" :p

Mimi
05-08-2008, 03:01 AM
wow, our rafa boy is now a man, he dares to challenge this Etienne :eek::p
Etienne de Villiers is like the ATP chairman, and i was just reading rafa's post match interview in the previous page when he was asked if he would talk to de villiers about the tournament schedule again, cause he already did.. (i think rafa doesn't like the the tournaments are so close to each other)and rafa answers the he has nothing to say to "this man" :p

Denisse
05-08-2008, 03:05 AM
yes, he's so funny. but really, i don't think anybody likes Etienne or Mr Disney as he is fondly called around here :)

Mimi
05-08-2008, 03:17 AM
:pyes, he's so funny. but really, i don't think anybody likes Etienne or Mr Disney as he is fondly called around here :)

GuiroNl
05-08-2008, 07:20 AM
Geez Rafa, you messed up my four-peat in MIT with this clowning around ;)

Ah well. Good luck in Hamburg (don't play there please) and RG.

MariaV
05-08-2008, 08:39 AM
Basically it says that the Italians were cheering for Ferrero because in reality they were cheering for Federer who is Francesco Totti's friend... Totti is a Roma player.... the Enzo Ferrari quote is that "Italians forgive everything except for success". They just want Fed to win the rome MS because he is Totti's friend...

Thanks Platinum, except for the success, right. :hug:

Foxy
05-08-2008, 10:17 AM
At least he gets a well-deserved rest. Onto Hambrug and RG.

Sizzling Safin
05-10-2008, 03:41 PM
wow, our rafa boy is now a man, he dares to challenge this Etienne :eek::p

:lol:

nadal4ever
05-10-2008, 11:35 PM
I know Rafa's name is the Hamburg draw, but will he actually play or withdraw?

l_mac
05-10-2008, 11:44 PM
I know Rafa's name is the Hamburg draw, but will he actually play or withdraw?

Probably a question for the Hamburg thread :D

nadal4ever
05-11-2008, 03:22 PM
Sorry about that.

The Pro
05-11-2008, 03:49 PM
So Rafa lost and Nole won.

OH THE HUMANITY

raven gypsy
05-11-2008, 04:47 PM
So Rafa lost and Nole won.

OH THE HUMANITY


Quite the day, huh. :rolleyes:

nashty
05-11-2008, 06:48 PM
So Rafa lost and Nole won.

OH THE HUMANITY

sad times, no?

Tnn74
05-11-2008, 08:36 PM
I vomited in my mouth seeing him (fuckervic)kiss that trophy...
surely it should have been bitten by Rafito :(

The Pro
05-11-2008, 11:28 PM
As long as he didn't bite it :mad:

NaDALiTa
05-11-2008, 11:39 PM
i was too gutted to watch that final :( :( Rome final without Rafa & Fed it's not a Rome final *sigh*
with all those retirements Nole will be fit for Hamburg :(