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Play EDV for a day: What should the 2009 ATP Calendar look like?

Johnny Groove
04-02-2008, 02:22 PM
This topic may be like Britney Spears, being done over and over and over again, but what would you guys think should be the best way for the Calendar to look in order to keep the best things about the tour. (best of 5 TMS final and the like)

Heres mine:

2009 ATP Calendar

1/5/09- Adelaide or wherever they move it to (175), Doha (250), Chennai (175)
1/12/09- Auckland (175), Sydney (175)
1/19/09- AO Week 1
1/26/09- AO Week 2
2/2/09- Vina Del Mar (175), Delray Beach (175), Zagreb (175)
2/9/09- Davis Cup I
2/16/09- San Jose (175), CDS (175), Marseille (200)
2/23/09- Memphis (250), Rotterdam (300), BA (175)
3/2/09- Dubai (300), Acapulco (250), Las Vegas or wherever they move it to (175)
3/9/09- IW Week 1
3/16/09- IW Week 2
3/23/09- Miami Week 1
3/30/09- Miami Week 2
4/6/09- Valencia (175), Houston (175)
4/13/09- Monte Carlo (500)
4/20/09- Barcelona (300), Casablanca (175)
4/27/09- Munich (175), Estoril (175)
5/4/09- Rome (500) (BEST OF 5 FINALS)
5/11/09- Poertschach (175), WTC (Team RR), Sopot (175)
5/18/09- Hamburg (500) (BEST OF 5 FINALS)
5/25/09- RG Week 1
6/1/09- RG Week 2
6/8/09- Queens (225), Halle (225)
6/15/09- Nottingham (175), Shertogenbosch (175)
6/22/09- Wimbledon Week 1
6/29/09- Wimbledon Week 2
7/6/09- DC II
7/13/09- Bastad (175), Gstaad (175), Newport (175)
7/20/09- Stuttgart (175), Amersfoort (175), Indy (175)
7/27/09- Kitz (250), Umag (175), LA (175)
8/3/09- TMS Canada
8/10/09- Washinton
8/17/09- TMS Cincy
8/23/09- New Haven
8/31/09- USO Week 1
9/7/09- USO Week 2
9/14/09- Beijing/Bucharest
9/21/09- DC III
9/28/09- Bangkok/Mumbai/Tokyo
10/5/09- Vienna/Metz/Stockholm
10/12/09- Madrid
10/19/09- Basel/Moscow
10/26/09- Lyon/St. Pete
11/2/09- TMS Paris
11/9/09- BYE Week
11/16/09- TMC
11/23/09- DC Final


:wavey:

Henry Chinaski
04-02-2008, 02:30 PM
do you mean only best of 5 finals for Rome and Hamburg? If so why?

think I'll stick to criticising other people's efforts rather than doing one myself.

rocketassist
04-02-2008, 03:01 PM
week 1- Doha, Chennai, Adelaide
week 2- Auckland, Sydney
week 3-4 Australian Open
week 5- Vina del Mar, Zagreb
week 6- Davis Cup
week 7- San Jose, Marseille, Buenos Aires
week 8- Memphis, Rotterdam, Costa du Sauipe
week 9- Dubai, Acapulco
week 10-11 AMS Miami
week 12- Davis Cup
week 13- Kitzbuhel, Valencia
week 14- AMS Monte Carlo (best of 5 final)
week 15- Estoril, Munich, Umag
week 16- Barcelona, Gstaad
week 17- AMS Rome (5 set final)
week 18- AMS Hamburg (5 set final)
week 19- Portschach, WTC
week 20-21 Roland Garros
week 22- Liverpool, Halle
week 23- AMS London (Queens)
week 24- s'hertogenbosch
week 25-26 Wimbledon
week 27- Los Angeles, Indianapolis
week 29- Washington D.C, Las Vegas
week 30- AMS Canada (5 set final!)
week 31- AMS Cincinnati (5 set final)
week 32- New Haven
week 33-34 US Open
week 35- Bangkok, Tokyo
week 36- Davis Cup (SF and playoff)
week 37- Vienna, Stockholm, Moscow
week 38- AMS Madrid
week 39- Lyon, Basel, St Petersburg
week 40- AMS Paris
week 41-42 TMC
week 43- Davis Cup final

I've made a few interesting decisions.

Masters Series remain as they are with all of them going back to 5 set finals. No byes in MC, Rome, Hamburg, Canada and Cincy.

Houston is gone, solves the problem of Americans not going to Monte Carlo.

Keep Kitzbuhel but make it an exciting opening to the clay season- 48 player draw stays, fuck you Tiriac.

No post-Wimbledon clay. Roland Garros should be the conclusion of the clay season like the other grand slams conclude their respective seasons.

Liverpool ATP, for my own benefit so I can hop on a bus ride and go and watch tennis. :) Extended grass season by a week so players have more time to prepare (Kuerten suggested this a long time ago)

9 weeks off, with DC final the week after the end of TMC, not 2 weeks.

Indian Wells goes, grass AMS comes in. More hardcourt TMS than clay ones, so take a HC one away.

It's an attempt!

Jimnik
04-02-2008, 03:05 PM
This topic may be like Britney Spears, being done over and over and over again, ....
You're right about that.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=55823

:wavey:

hra87
04-02-2008, 03:23 PM
This topic may be like Britney Spears, being done over and over and over again, but what would you guys think should be the best way for the Calendar to look in order to keep the best things about the tour. (best of 5 TMS final and the like)

Heres mine:

2009 ATP Calendar

1/5/09- Adelaide or wherever they move it to (175), Doha (250), Chennai (175)
1/12/09- Auckland (175), Sydney (175)
1/19/09- AO Week 1
1/26/09- AO Week 2
2/2/09- Vina Del Mar (175), Delray Beach (175), Zagreb (175)
2/9/09- Davis Cup I
2/16/09- San Jose (175), CDS (175), Marseille (200)
2/23/09- Memphis (250), Rotterdam (300), BA (175)
3/2/09- Dubai (300), Acapulco (250), Las Vegas or wherever they move it to (175)
3/9/09- IW Week 1
3/16/09- IW Week 2
3/23/09- Miami Week 1
3/30/09- Miami Week 2
4/6/09- Valencia (175), Houston (175)
4/13/09- Monte Carlo (500)
4/20/09- Barcelona (300), Casablanca (175)
4/27/09- Munich (175), Estoril (175)
5/4/09- Rome (500) (BEST OF 5 FINALS)
5/11/09- Poertschach (175), WTC (Team RR), Sopot (175)
5/18/09- Hamburg (500) (BEST OF 5 FINALS)
5/25/09- RG Week 1
6/1/09- RG Week 2
6/8/09- Queens (225), Halle (225)
6/15/09- Nottingham (175), Shertogenbosch (175)
6/22/09- Wimbledon Week 1
6/29/09- Wimbledon Week 2
7/6/09- DC II
7/13/09- Bastad (175), Gstaad (175), Newport (175)
7/20/09- Stuttgart (175), Amersfoort (175), Indy (175)
7/27/09- Kitz (250), Umag (175), LA (175)
8/3/09- TMS Canada
8/10/09- Washinton
8/17/09- TMS Cincy
8/23/09- New Haven
8/31/09- USO Week 1
9/7/09- USO Week 2
9/14/09- Beijing/Bucharest
9/21/09- DC III
9/28/09- Bangkok/Mumbai/Tokyo
10/5/09- Vienna/Metz/Stockholm
10/12/09- Madrid
10/19/09- Basel/Moscow
10/26/09- Lyon/St. Pete
11/2/09- TMS Paris
11/9/09- BYE Week
11/16/09- TMC
11/23/09- DC Final


:wavey:

This is even worse than the ATP one. Not a single clay masters??????

Edit: wait, you seem to be inconsistent on what you label TMS and what you put points in parenthesis around. I thought everything you put points next to aren't TMS or Majors...is this correct?

thelionrose
04-03-2008, 12:35 AM
week 1- Doha, Chennai, Adelaide
week 2- Auckland, Sydney
week 3-4 Australian Open
week 5- Vina del Mar, Zagreb
week 6- Davis Cup
week 7- San Jose, Marseille, Buenos Aires
week 8- Memphis, Rotterdam, Costa du Sauipe
week 9- Dubai, Acapulco
week 10-11 AMS Miami
week 12- Davis Cup
week 13- Kitzbuhel, Valencia
week 14- AMS Monte Carlo (best of 5 final)
week 15- Estoril, Munich, Umag
week 16- Barcelona, Gstaad
week 17- AMS Rome (5 set final)
week 18- AMS Hamburg (5 set final)
week 19- Portschach, WTC
week 20-21 Roland Garros
week 22- Liverpool, Halle
week 23- AMS London (Queens)
week 24- s'hertogenbosch
week 25-26 Wimbledon
week 27- Los Angeles, Indianapolis
week 29- Washington D.C, Las Vegas
week 30- AMS Canada (5 set final!)
week 31- AMS Cincinnati (5 set final)
week 32- New Haven
week 33-34 US Open
week 35- Bangkok, Tokyo
week 36- Davis Cup (SF and playoff)
week 37- Vienna, Stockholm, Moscow
week 38- AMS Madrid
week 39- Lyon, Basel, St Petersburg
week 40- AMS Paris
week 41-42 TMC
week 43- Davis Cup final

I've made a few interesting decisions.

Masters Series remain as they are with all of them going back to 5 set finals. No byes in MC, Rome, Hamburg, Canada and Cincy.

Houston is gone, solves the problem of Americans not going to Monte Carlo.

Keep Kitzbuhel but make it an exciting opening to the clay season- 48 player draw stays, fuck you Tiriac.

No post-Wimbledon clay. Roland Garros should be the conclusion of the clay season like the other grand slams conclude their respective seasons.

Liverpool ATP, for my own benefit so I can hop on a bus ride and go and watch tennis. :) Extended grass season by a week so players have more time to prepare (Kuerten suggested this a long time ago)

9 weeks off, with DC final the week after the end of TMC, not 2 weeks.

Indian Wells goes, grass AMS comes in. More hardcourt TMS than clay ones, so take a HC one away.

It's an attempt!

I like the rational for all of your decisions. Houston is an anomaly and should go. The clay season should be a real season and end with the French. But why do you have the players going to Las Vegas in August? Washington, D.C. with its heat and humidity is bad enough and it is not in the desert. I don't know how the players survive those early matches in DC.

StevoTG
04-03-2008, 01:04 AM
This wouldn'y be possible to implement by 09 due to facility upgrades but anyway

2009 ATP Calendar

1/5/09- Brisbane (175), Doha (250), Chennai (175)
1/12/09- Auckland (175), Sydney (175)
1/19/09- AO Week 1
1/26/09- AO Week 2
2/2/09- Vina Del Mar (175), Delray Beach (175), Zagreb (175)
2/6/09- Davis Cup I
2/9/09- San Jose (175), CDS (175), Marseille (200)
2/16/09- Memphis (250), Rotterdam (300), BA (175)
2/23/09- Dubai (300), Acapulco (250), Las Vegas or wherever they move it to (175)
3/1/09- IW Week 1
3/9/09- IW Week 2
3/16/09- Miami Week 1
3/23/09- Miami Week 2
3/30/09- Valencia (175), Houston (175)
4/6/09- Monte Carlo (500)
4/13/09- Barcelona (300), Casablanca (175)
4/20/09- Munich (175), Estoril (175)
4/27/09- Rome (500)
5/4/09- Poertschach (175), WTC (Team RR), Sopot (175)
5/11/09- Hamburg (500)
5/18/09- RG Week 1
5/25/09- RG Week 2
6/1/09- Shertogenbosch (175)
6/8/09- Halle Masters (500)
6/15/09- Queens Masters (500) - seeds get R1 Bye
6/22/09- Nottingham (175), Liverpool (175)
6/29/09- Wimbledon Week 1
7/5/09- Wimbledon Week 2
7/10/09- DC
7/20/09- Bastad (175), Gstaad (175), Newport (175)
7/27/09- Stuttgart (175), Amersfoort (175), Indy (175)
8/3/09- Kitz (250), Umag (175), LA (175)
8/10/09- TMS Canada
8/17/09- Washinton
8/23/09- TMS Cincy
8/31/09- New Haven
9/7/09- USO Week 1
9/14/09- USO Week 2
9/21/09- DC III
9/28/09- Beijing/Bucharest
10/5/09- Bangkok/Mumbai/Tokyo
10/12/09- Vienna/Metz/Stockholm
10/19/09- Basel/Moscow
10/26/09- Madrid (500)
11/2/09- Lyon/St. Pet/Paris
11/9/09- BYE Week
11/16/09- TMC
11/23/09- DC Final

Bonuses:
No Best Of Five in the Masters Series!
A proper Grass-Court Season (still much less than clay and HC obviously)

P.S. Only Paris loses Masters status.

Johnny Groove
04-03-2008, 01:55 AM
This is even worse than the ATP one. Not a single clay masters??????

Edit: wait, you seem to be inconsistent on what you label TMS and what you put points in parenthesis around. I thought everything you put points next to aren't TMS or Majors...is this correct?

dude are you on crack, i have 3 clay masters.

All the TMS have 5 set finals, i just got a little lazy with labels