Could Lleyton beat Roger?

06-27-2004, 01:39 AM
I think Lleyton will beat Carlos and Roger on his way to the final. What do you guys think?

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-27-2004, 02:05 AM
Lleyton can beat anyone. He is uber super duper... no seriously, he is playing great tennis. I think the match against Goran was just immaculate. Watching that was orgasmic for me. I would like to see Lleyton or ROgi in the final, but I just hope they do get to play eachother, I hope it's a great match, I think Lleyton definitely has a chance--his confidence and best level of play looks to be almost completely returned, so I think he can beat Rogi yeah. But best wishes to the both

06-27-2004, 02:13 AM
No, not a chance, no matter how well he plays. Federer has too much game for Hewitt. I gaurentee you Mary, Patrick, Mal, Luke , etc. all agree with me ;) :)

06-27-2004, 02:14 AM
He's certainly capable of it. Roger is not invincible :)

J. Corwin
06-27-2004, 02:29 AM
Of course he can. He might need a little help from Roger though.

06-27-2004, 02:29 AM
Hewitt can, but with the way Roger is playing right now I would say Roger would win. Federer has got a much bigger game too.

06-27-2004, 02:32 AM
stupid discussing this match when it is so far away at the moment

If they both play their best expect more bagels, if Federer begins making dozens of errors per set then Hewitt has a chance

06-27-2004, 02:37 AM
He'll ne so much help from Roger its not even funny.
WyveN, who will be bageling who, though? ;) I doubt Hewitt will even get past Carlos, so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Tennis Fool
06-27-2004, 02:41 AM
I think Lleyton will beat Carlos and Roger on his way to the final. What do you guys think?
That would be a horrible nightmare.

06-27-2004, 02:43 AM
I doubt Hewitt will even get past Carlos
he will definitely beat Carlos, I'm quite confident about that...

don't think it's enough for Roger if Roger is playing well enough, but it's VERY NICE to see Lleyton back in some good form this year.

06-27-2004, 02:53 AM
I think Lleyton will beat Carlos and Roger on his way to the final. What do you guys think?

If he manages to do this, then I hope he will take the whole enchilada.

Btw, I don't think his win over Goran can be any indication. Lleyton matches very well with s&v. Henman, Rafter, Goran, even Sampras... he made them all look as fools on few occasions.He wasn't able to solve Karlovich though.

06-27-2004, 03:42 AM
I would predict Rogi to win in a tight match:D! I can't wait to see it (if it happens)!

06-27-2004, 04:45 AM
I like Moya but why does everyone here think it is impossible for hewitt to beat him. This is GRASS people, Moya isn't exactly confident on the stuff. Hewitt will destroy Moya when they meet. Mark my words...

06-27-2004, 04:49 AM
:angel: :angel: Lleyton can beat everyone !!!!!!!!!!!!! :angel: :angel:

06-27-2004, 09:45 AM
Rogi served and volleyed well against Hewitt in Miami. It all depends on Rogi really. Hewitt knows it too.

06-27-2004, 10:16 AM
Scotty Draper can :bounce:

06-27-2004, 12:26 PM
I give Lleyton a 25% chance against club fed

06-27-2004, 01:12 PM
Hold on guys, Ivo Karlovic is known for defeating defending champion.

06-27-2004, 01:54 PM
Only one guy can beat Roger and he is Roger only, Hewitt can beat Roger only if Roger doesnt play at his original level.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-27-2004, 02:10 PM
so in other words, what you really mean is, Roger is like, Batman or something

06-27-2004, 02:57 PM
Federer serve-volleyed about half a dozen times against Hewitt in Miami, he respected his returns and passes and rightly so. I think Hewitt will have too much pedigree on grass for Moya, who will get frustrated by the bounce and by a lot of his serves coming back deep. I hope I'm wrong, but that's my guess. I'm more worried about Federer against Karlovic - the bagels stop here, that's for sure. He will need to win tiebreaks, and possibly break serve once.

06-27-2004, 03:00 PM
so in other words, what you really mean is, Roger is like, Batman or something

LOL :haha: I think the chances are 50/50. They both show great tennis and if it happens that match would be hard for both of them. Roger has lots of success now that's why ppl believe in him so much.

and btw don't u think roddick can also get to the final?

06-27-2004, 03:00 PM
I'm more worried about Federer against Karlovic - the bagels stop here, that's for sure. He will need to win tiebreaks, and possibly break serve once.

only if Karlovic can serve 80% first serve, possible but unlikely

06-27-2004, 03:43 PM
If Rogi can handle Karlovic's serve like he did against Roddick or Philippoussis then I think Rogi won't need tiebreaks.

06-27-2004, 03:44 PM
If Rogi plays great hewitt won't be able to play great. People keep forgetting Rogi is one of the few guys with a great serve and a great return. I don't know if Hewitt will be able to send many of Moya's 1st serves back deep. I suspect Moya will be mixing it up against Hewitt. I give Moya a damn good chance. Hewitt better hope Moya isn't feeling confident about the match.

06-27-2004, 10:41 PM
Hewitt is a pitbull , his head is the best but his game no. He can beat Roger if he plays at his top and roger not plays at his top.

anyway i think Roger will repeat title this year.

06-27-2004, 10:54 PM
Roger might need a tiebreak against Ivo, but it is doubtful, as well. Roger is certainly going to break serve more than once. I feel people are over prasing Karlovic. He is mostly just a big serve, which Federer will block back effectivly, force Ivo to hit a low volley, then the points pretty much over. Federer should dominate on his own serve. And if they get into rallys, i expect Roger to dominate him from the back, as well. Clearly i'm not as worried as some are.

06-28-2004, 04:23 AM
Hmmm, let's imagine this instead: Moya beats Hewitt (very possible); Karlovic beats Federer (outside chance?) ... then Moya meets Karlovic in the Quarters, and Moya beats Karlovic (also very possible, look at Rome this year)

Aaah, my man Moya in the Wimbledon semis ??? (yes, maybe impossible, but what a great dream if it happens?)
Then it could go further ... perhaps Grosjean in semis, which leads to Moya winning & into final (?) ... with the other semi being Roddick/Philippoussis, Flip winning that & meeting Moya in final ... then Moya repeating his win over Flip as in D.C. final and becoming the Wimbledon Champion !??!

Oops, I've just woken up (and re-read Carlos's interview where he laughed about winning Wimby...) but, hey, wouldn't it be amazing? Crazier things have happened :)

But, back to reality ... Roger will probably change the dream (as I think he's the possible 2004 Wimbledon Champion here). Roger will change it by beating Karlovic ... and whoever wins the Moya/Hewitt match will then be stopped by Roger. [If it's Carlos, then it will have eerie connotations ... last time Moya played at Wimbledon, he was beaten by the eventual Wimby Champion - Goran Ivanisevic, in 2001!]

So ... I'll just have to hope that Carlos beats Lleyton tonight and be happy with that .. [well, I'm happy so far that Moya has reached the last 16 here!] ... but beating Lleyton will make up for Sydney and D.C. final last year.

But, so as to not be so 'un-Australian', I would like Philippoussis to beat Henman tonight ...

06-28-2004, 04:57 AM
Scotty Draper can :bounce:

No, he can't. But he can get to match point against Federer and choke very well. ;)

06-28-2004, 04:59 AM
On the main issue of this thread, let's see if both Federer and Hewitt advance to the quarters (most likely they will) and how they play in the 4th round... then I'll make my pick. Right now I don't see Federer losing to anyone remaining in the draw, but if he is going to lose, Hewitt is one of the very few who can actually pull it off this week.

06-28-2004, 05:23 AM
Lleyton can deffinetly beat him but will he I dont know. So i'll just sit on the fence with this one but I smell a upset :)

06-28-2004, 06:12 AM
I think that Roger is the favourite in any match he plays. Having said that, Lleyton is playing very well indeed this week and because of the game he plays he has as good a chance as any other player to beat Federer (their head to head backs this up, even though Roger has clearly improved since their early matches!).

Being a big fan of both players, I just hope to be able to watch that quarterfinal!