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Moya v. Hewitt: The Rivalry Continues

Tennis Fool
06-25-2004, 10:20 PM
Moya leads 5:4
Hard: Tied 2:2
Clay: 2:1 Moya

2004 Sydney, Hard, F Hewitt 3 4 Retire
2003 World Team Championship, Clay, RRDusseldorf, Germany Hewitt 2 6 6 3 3 6
2002 Tennis Masters Cup, Hard, RR Shanghai, Moya 6 4 7 5
2002 Cincinnati TMS, Hard, F Moya 7 5 7 6
2002 Rome TMS, Clay, R32 Moya 6 3 6 2
2002 Monte Carlo TMS,Clay R64 Moya 6 4 6 3
2002 Indian Wells TMS,Hard R64 Hewitt 4 6 4 6
2001 Australian Open, Hard R32 Moya 4 6 6 1 5 7 6 2 7 5
2000 Indian Wells, Hard R64 Hewitt 4 6 6 3 3 6

Tennis Fool
06-25-2004, 10:21 PM
I didn't know their rivalry was this close, although I expect Lleyton to win the match on grass. However, Moya has been getting stronger with each round.

Leo
06-25-2004, 10:25 PM
We should have had this same match on the grass last year in the Davis Cup final, as the decider, but unfortunately Ferrero fucked it up majorly. But now we'll get it at Wimbledon instead and I'm excited.

I'm not sure how Moya played today but in his first couple of rounds he was very erratic and needed his serve to get him out of trouble at times. Meanwhile, Hewitt was very impressive today. His returns, passing shots, and lobs were very sharp and that will worry Moya, so I give the edge to the Aussie.

Ballbuster
06-26-2004, 12:23 AM
WHAAAAAAAAAAT?
WHAAAAAAAAAAT?
WHAAAAAAAAAAT?
OOOOOKKKKKKKKKKK
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Neely
06-26-2004, 12:28 AM
damn it, two big favorites of mine playing against each other :sad:

tennischick
06-26-2004, 12:29 AM
the Potato will win. that's my vote.

MissPovaFan
06-26-2004, 12:32 AM
Moya to win I think.

jbone_14
06-26-2004, 01:55 AM
The edge is definately with Carlos because he will be looking to end the points easily, depending on if he gets his first serve in. If his 1st serve % is anywhere near 70%, then Hewitt wont touch it. Hes been playing pretty good, I mean 30+ on the winner/error ratio is good and hate to say it but the only thing Goran had was a serve. Most of the lobs Hewitt hit, could easily be retrieved. Carlos in 4 sets. 6-4 6-3 5-7 6-1, thats of course if Carlos brings his game because all lleyton does is wait for the opponent to make the mistakes.

WyveN
06-26-2004, 03:03 AM
Moya can play very well on grass as he showed in DC last year, I think that match gave him the confidence he needed to actually put the effort in at Wimbledon.

trixy
06-26-2004, 03:07 AM
Well i have to give Hewitt the edge because he was really impressive yesterday but i deffiently think and hope Moya can pull off the upset.

CarnivalCarnage
06-26-2004, 03:30 AM
The edge is with Carlos?

I'd be amazed if Hewitt lost.

WyveN
06-26-2004, 03:42 AM
I'd be amazed if Hewitt lost.

If Carlos plays poorly, if he plays like he did in Australia he has a very good chance.

CarnivalCarnage
06-26-2004, 04:19 AM
If Carlos plays poorly, if he plays like he did in Australia he has a very good chance.

I don't really think he needs to rely on bad play from Moya.

jbone_14
06-26-2004, 04:46 AM
I don't really think he needs to rely on bad play from Moya.


Um yeah he does, hes a counterpuncher who waits for the opponent to make errors.

WyveN
06-26-2004, 04:48 AM
I don't really think he needs to rely on bad play from Moya.

Why not? Their games are very similar, Hewitt cant exactly blow Moya of the court, particularly as Moya is generally more aggressive.

silverwhite
06-26-2004, 04:50 AM
Go Lleyton!

YoursTruly
06-26-2004, 05:03 AM
CARLOS!!! He's just so much better than that Lleyton! I really want mi Carlitos to win this match!!! :)

lsy
06-26-2004, 05:07 AM
Anybody who had watched Moya in last year DC final will not rule out his chance vs Hewitt. He played really well and beat Mark convincingly on grass.

But if I have to bet on either, I'll still go for Hewitt simply because Moya really is quite a choker himself, and that doesn't work well vs Hewitt, actually ESPECIALLY vs Hewitt.

and thanks to stupid starsports, I didn't get to watch much of any of them so far. Hopefully I'll get to watch this one, should be a good match...(of course each time when we think so, it always turn out to be a total disappointment :lol: )

Bee
06-26-2004, 06:44 AM
YESSS, can't wait for this match ... the 'Clayton's' D.C. final match of 2003.
And here in Aus. we will have TV coverage of the WHOLE match, so I don't mind if it goes to 5 sets ... with Carlos winning, of course!
I'm an Aussie but who says I have to go for the Aussie here? Carlos is my fav. ... he's surpassed anything at Wimby before, into this round of 16, there's no pressure on him ... so even though Lleyton is the favourite, anything can happen! Carlos is serving well on grass, he has a fair amount of aces under his belt up to now, he can win at net, etc. etc. Why can't he keep this up and beat Lleyton? (Read Lleyton's latest interview on the wimbledon website for more good things about Carlos, Lleyton has a lot of respect for him ...)

I really hope Carlos wins, but if not, I'm sure the match will be played in good spirit ... let's hope it's THE match of Monday!

VAMOS CARLOS!

CarnivalCarnage
06-26-2004, 07:24 AM
Why not? Their games are very similar, Hewitt cant exactly blow Moya of the court, particularly as Moya is generally more aggressive.

I don't know ... because statistically Lleyton is the better player? Because all of the top men are capable of beating each other on their best day?

jeanie_sin
06-26-2004, 09:12 AM
i would seriously be amazed if hewitt loses......
you look at his statistics, his winners-UE ratio is so scaringly good, and he's not lost his serve in all of his matches at wimby, not even a break point against goran!

i would rate him and federer as the best on-form mens players at wimby now

FanOfHewitt
06-26-2004, 09:19 AM
I'm hoping the fast surface will neutralise Moya's power by not affording him the time he needs to wind up his powerful forehand. If Hewitt can find himself in rallies with Moya and get him moving around I think he can break him down.

Lleyton is playing pretty solid right now and if he continues to serve the way he has for the whole tournament he should be in with a great chance.

However, one thing I'd like to see Lleyton improve is his forehand service returns. His forehand returns have looked a little fragile of late.

I also wish he would stand a little closer to the baseline when returning serve and wouldn't allow the big servers to get outrageous angles on him and move him way out of court. That's something Federer does extremely well to Lleyton and its something Lleyton will have to think about if he does face Federer.

Jazzy
06-26-2004, 09:26 AM
it'll be a tough match for both players and who ever wins has a tough match ahead most probably Roger Federer in the next match!! - but yeh, Lleyton has surprised me with his serve in this tournament so far and as said before Moya did beat Flip last yeaer in November

akin
06-26-2004, 10:49 AM
I think Lleyton will win this one.

Yashirobai
06-26-2004, 11:06 AM
Moya can play very well on grass as he showed in DC last year, I think that match gave him the confidence he needed to actually put the effort in at Wimbledon.


I do totally agree with every single word.

sigmagirl91
06-26-2004, 12:31 PM
CARLOS!!! He's just so much better than that Lleyton! I really want mi Carlitos to win this match!!! :)

He will win. I want MY Carlitos to win this match.

Ballbuster
06-26-2004, 12:57 PM
I saw Moya on Centre court on tuesday, he was badass, but nevertheless, Hewitt in straights

Dirk
06-26-2004, 03:16 PM
Um Moya beat Hewitt at the Cup which is indoors and its fast. I'm sure Moya will be fine in the match. I think he probably believes he can win and I hope he does. It will all come down to his error count. Moya can blow Hewitt away and just is really a great grass player. I wish he would wake up and realize it. I say Moya in 4 sets.

YoursTruly
06-26-2004, 03:30 PM
He will win. I want MY Carlitos to win this match.


No! MY Carlos!!!! :lol:

*pulling Carlos over to my side like tug of war*

liptea
06-26-2004, 03:31 PM
Well, Moya has been getting better with each match. Moya has always posed a threat to Lleyton, even back in the years when Moya hadn't gotten back to this level. I think, maybe, psychologically they'll think about it. Moya just seems more confident right now.

I'm rooting for Moya, but I think Hewitt'll probably win, but not in straights.

YoursTruly
06-26-2004, 03:41 PM
Carlos is just much stronger and natural than Lleyton, that's why I really believe he could win this quite easily despite my being so biased to Carlos!! :lol: What he needs to do is overpower, but not all the time because Lleyton could use the pace, but instead it should be a combination of overpowering and doing things to take Lleyton away from his comfort zone. Mix things up while sticking to your game. I know Carlos can do this because he does this all the time against different kinds of opponents.

tennisguru
06-26-2004, 04:35 PM
I think Hewitt is going to take the match in four sets, he did so well in queens. Another thing is Moya didn't play a match with any good players in earlier round. Even Patience took him to 5 sets, Hewitt is yet to loose a set and looks very in good touch.

TennisLurker
06-26-2004, 06:30 PM
I think hewitt will win easily.

liptea
06-26-2004, 06:36 PM
Ever notice that everytime we claim that Moya will do well on this website, he loses shamefully?

rue
06-26-2004, 07:49 PM
I think that it will be a close match but I think that Carlos can win it. He knows how to beat Lleyton and he is a pretty good player on grass as he demonstrated in Davis Cup against Philippoussis last year. I think he just might win it but it will be tight.

Tennis Fool
06-26-2004, 09:15 PM
:lol: Where did all these Moya fans come from???

Denise
06-26-2004, 10:05 PM
That's indeed funny Moya's lover :lol:

well, I rather Moya to win this match ;)

Crazy_Fool
06-26-2004, 10:40 PM
Carlos can win if he believes in it, he has a pretty good game for grass, I always thought he could do well here.

I'm supporting Lleyton, but I'm not expecting anything easy.

YoursTruly
06-27-2004, 01:42 AM
:lol: Where did all these Moya fans come from???


Don't worry, I've been here, baby! ;)

J. Corwin
06-27-2004, 02:46 AM
I think Hewitt will win this one. If his return game is on like it was against Goran, he should be able to readily handle Carlos.

Fedex
06-27-2004, 02:48 AM
I think Carlos' serve is better now, Goran's serve isnt the same as it once was. Moya has much more firepower from the back, and will dominate Hewitt from the back, and he also is a good volleyer.

RogiFan88
06-27-2004, 03:25 AM
i would seriously be amazed if hewitt loses......
you look at his statistics, his winners-UE ratio is so scaringly good, and he's not lost his serve in all of his matches at wimby, not even a break point against goran!

i would rate him and federer as the best on-form mens players at wimby now
what about Pandy? how does he compare to lleyt and Rogi?

RogiFan88
06-27-2004, 03:27 AM
as Alex said "Allez, Moya!"

jeanie_sin
06-27-2004, 03:56 AM
what about Pandy? how does he compare to lleyt and Rogi?

pandy is roddick right? he's been playing well, straight sets. but you look at the socres of the sets, they are pretty tight. and he's been having far more easier opponents than hewitt has, but he's lost more games than hewitt has. look at his opponents, wang and peya, certainly not people he sould be having any trouble with
the same goes with henman

SomL.
06-27-2004, 04:53 AM
:angel: :angel: Go Lleyton against Moya !!!!!!!!!!! :angel: :angel:

RogiFan88
06-27-2004, 02:13 PM
VAMOS, CARLOS!!!

claudine140
06-27-2004, 05:39 PM
GOOD LUCK MOYA

If Carlos serves good, many aces, stay concentrated he can win but he has to be patience because Hewitt runs and fight for every ball!!!
Will be a beautifull match i think

Clara Bow
06-27-2004, 06:26 PM
I have to think that Hewitt will win. He is looking really good lately and seems to be returning to his old form.

MajorcanBoy89
06-27-2004, 07:37 PM
I'm not sure if Carlos will win tomorrow, BUT I'M SURE I'LL SUPORT CARLOS !

endevant carlos tu pots!

Raul-Lopez
06-27-2004, 10:20 PM
Very Hard... Hewitt have the best head of the tour, in five sets, in grass, with top form...when the matches are long the chances of Hewitt grew up more and more.

Moya is unpredecible, he can lost 61 63 62 or win easy. but . my prediction . Hewitt in four.

But i´ll support Moyá of course. Good Luck.

YoursTruly
06-27-2004, 10:37 PM
I have a good feeling about this! Moya vs. Hewitt. VAMOS CARLOS!!!!! ;) :hearts: :yeah: :rolls: :D

Bee
06-28-2004, 03:37 AM
Second match Monday, centre court ... can't wait!

VAMOSSSSSSS CARLOSSSSSSSS !!!

Billabong
06-28-2004, 03:46 AM
GOOOOOOOOO Lley:banana:!!!

Auscon
06-28-2004, 05:11 AM
Well, today could either be an excellent day for aussie tennis, a half decent day, or a shocker....

Go Lleyton!

(& Mark)

claudine140
06-28-2004, 05:21 AM
please moya make my day good ending
have a 14 hours working day today, can not follow the match, but i do hope when i come home tonight i will see a lovely and good result for moya!!!!!!
GO MOYKE WIN WIN WIN

Lisbeth
06-28-2004, 06:05 AM
Could be a very long, very good match. I decline to predict a winner because I'd probably jinx my countryman ;)

SomL.
06-28-2004, 10:22 AM
:angel: :angel: Go Lleyton against Moya !!!!!!!!! :angel: :angel:

Space Cowgirl
06-28-2004, 10:42 AM
I hope Moya wins. Hewitt's "C'mon"s during matches really get on my nerves

Yashirobai
06-28-2004, 12:54 PM
What I really think, even though I don't know actually very well for what reason, is that Moyá's chances were much bigger in that possible 5th DAVIS CUP final match in Australia than now in Wimbledon. However, if he has a great day he can beat Lleyton... which is what I hope.

Auscon
06-28-2004, 01:42 PM
Showtime!

Auscon
06-28-2004, 02:25 PM
Lleyton wins the first set! 6-4

C'MON!

Yashirobai
06-28-2004, 02:29 PM
Carlos... focus! I know you can win it, but don't do the same you did versus Coria in Roland Garros please... always losing your serve in the end of every set...

saskia_kane
06-28-2004, 02:37 PM
I hope CARLOS will win!
The first set is for Hewitt.. but i think Carlos is coming back...
and I hate hewitt with his stupid COME ON...

jbone_14
06-28-2004, 02:40 PM
Carlos is getting trampled. haha

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 02:41 PM
Moya getting his butt kicked by Hewitt so far...down a set and a break...

kim-fan
06-28-2004, 02:41 PM
:woohoo: he's winning! C'mon lleyton! :yeah:

kim4eva
06-28-2004, 02:44 PM
GO Lleyton :bounce:

jbone_14
06-28-2004, 02:44 PM
this one is going to be a quickie

kim4eva
06-28-2004, 02:45 PM
Lleyton took the 2nd 6-2 :woohoo:
Keep it up Lleyton! Take the 3rd :bounce:

Auscon
06-28-2004, 02:50 PM
great stuff Lleyton, but not willing to count Moya out of this, especially not since Lleytons just had his serve broken for the first time in the tournament in the first game of the 3rd set

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 02:58 PM
I don't know the score, but heard Lleyton had his serve broken in the 3rd set; first time this whole tourney.

Auscon
06-28-2004, 03:01 PM
yeah, but Lleyton just broke back to be serving at 2-2 in the 3rd

Hagar
06-28-2004, 03:01 PM
I don't know the score, but heard Lleyton had his serve broken in the 3rd set; first time this whole tourney.

For the first time in this tourny... That is AWESOME. :eek:

Hagar
06-28-2004, 03:02 PM
Com' on Lleyton, finish this match in three sets!

Auscon
06-28-2004, 03:07 PM
Moya's putting a fair bit of pressure on Lleytons serve now.....Had a break point, Lleyton clawed back, and Moya's brought back a few hold points to deuce

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 03:12 PM
As Moya dumps ball into the net, Hewitt: Come On! Yeah!

saskia_kane
06-28-2004, 03:15 PM
carlos, what are you doing??? FOCUSSSS and win this set!!! pleaseeeeeeee?!?!?!!!!

WyveN
06-28-2004, 03:18 PM
Moya's slice backhand looks horrible, why isn't he using the topspin one more often?

Auscon
06-28-2004, 03:18 PM
Moya's doing things fairly easy on serve at the moment......

Auscon
06-28-2004, 03:20 PM
fark, 3 break points for Moya to serve for the 3rd

Auscon
06-28-2004, 03:21 PM
and he breaks him

Come on Lleyton....

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 03:21 PM
Moya breaks at love. To serve for the set :D

smudger
06-28-2004, 03:21 PM
Carlos has chance to win 3rd set 6-4 if he holds, maybe this match isn't over yet.

Auscon
06-28-2004, 03:24 PM
Lleyton with 2 break back points!!

jbone_14
06-28-2004, 03:25 PM
Yal know he couldn't hold serve even if Lleyton gave him 3 1/2 points

Auscon
06-28-2004, 03:25 PM
1 break back point....

Auscon
06-28-2004, 03:25 PM
none.... :)

jbone_14
06-28-2004, 03:26 PM
ooooh set point!! Keep on carlos

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 03:26 PM
Moya wins the 3rd :banana:

jbone_14
06-28-2004, 03:27 PM
yay, he wins the 3rd!! Now steamroll the 4th and 5th!!!

Auscon
06-28-2004, 03:27 PM
Moya takes the 3rd set

Now we've got a contest on our hands.......but hopefully Moya wont be able to win the next 2....

jbone_14
06-28-2004, 03:28 PM
His 1st and 2nd set statistics are horrible for both players, but Hewitt's remained the same, but Carlos picked up his level of play.

angelzlite
06-28-2004, 03:28 PM
oH no..come on lleyton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hagar
06-28-2004, 03:31 PM
Come on, Lleyton!

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 03:55 PM
Moya can't really handle the low balls. Broken again...

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 04:02 PM
What is with the trading of breaks? Am I watching the WTA??? Carla v Lleytona :confused:

Fed in the lounge rubbing his chin, "Which one of these chicks deserves the bagel I'll serve tomorrow?" :lol:

Auscon
06-28-2004, 04:05 PM
5-4 to Lleyton in the 4th

Break him for the match Lleyton!

jbone_14
06-28-2004, 04:09 PM
I just now again found out why I dont like Hewitt. Those constant CMONs are sooo annoying. He does it after every point he wins.

Auscon
06-28-2004, 04:10 PM
Match point Lleyton!!

Auscon
06-28-2004, 04:11 PM
Moya saves it....

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 04:12 PM
Moya saves a matchpoint :banana:

Lleyton throws his racquet :lol:

Auscon
06-28-2004, 04:19 PM
4th set tie break

this is do or die stuff, come on Lleyton

Auscon
06-28-2004, 04:23 PM
4-1 Lleyton in the tie

alita
06-28-2004, 04:24 PM
I just now again found out why I dont like Hewitt. Those constant CMONs are sooo annoying. He does it after every point he wins.

I think that is call passion. LOL

Auscon
06-28-2004, 04:25 PM
5-2 all he's gotta do is hold the next 2 service points....

alita
06-28-2004, 04:25 PM
Lleyton, take the match quickily. I want to sleep now. :o

Auscon
06-28-2004, 04:27 PM
Lleyton wins! 7-3 in the tie

Great win for Lleyton

Moya was looking to bring a huge comeback there for a while


Well, now its time to beat Federer

no troubles :)

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 04:28 PM
Lleyton wins, but it was almost to a 5th set.

Good effort by Moya.

Lleyton gonna get creamed by Fed from his play today.

alita
06-28-2004, 04:29 PM
that's great. :woohoo: :woohoo:

Hagar
06-28-2004, 04:30 PM
Well done, Lleyton! Sounds like he had to dig deep.

star
06-28-2004, 05:08 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo:

Leyton!! Too bad about that lapse in the third set, but he showed heart and fight. I'm very happy for him.

:yippee:

Socket
06-28-2004, 05:13 PM
Well done, Lleyton! Kudos to Moya for going for the change of tactics in the third set -- it's always nice to see a player try strategy for a change, but Lleyton eventually adjusted to Moya's taking the pace off his shots.

Tennis Fool
06-28-2004, 05:26 PM
BTW, do any of you guys think its funny the way Moya puts his hands on his hips like "Well!" whenever he lost a point :lol:

nando
06-29-2004, 12:57 AM
poor moya, he seemed to choose the wrong shots at crucial stages and make careless unforced errors at those stages too! But it was a great match. Well done Carlos!