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Does Isner win points other than aces and service winners?

Rosa Luxembourg
08-27-2007, 09:19 PM
Watching his match and it seems like he doesn't.

scarecrows
08-27-2007, 09:20 PM
he was on deuce on Jarkko's serve just few minutes ago

Rosa Luxembourg
08-27-2007, 09:23 PM
I guess, got lucky, because he really doesn't look good off the ground and awkward at the net

mangoes
08-27-2007, 09:26 PM
I guess, got lucky, because he really doesn't look good off the ground and awkward at the net

He got lucky with errors from Jarkko. 19 aces already for him with 2 from Jarkko.

cobalt60
08-27-2007, 09:47 PM
I guess, got lucky, because he really doesn't look good off the ground and awkward at the net

Check out the old thread regarding his DC run. If you can get through the BS you'll see this has been stated before:) Except that he was good at the net in DC from what I watched. Groundies and side to side movement needs work but he is rather tall;) Also not sure he has the stamina for a slam.

EDIT- Jonathan will you take care of me when my mind has left me?

BlakeorHenman
08-27-2007, 09:59 PM
I don't care... I like him anyway. He's a southern boy, like me. :)

Purple Rainbow
08-27-2007, 10:09 PM
51 unforced errors to 13 for Nieminen.
If there is a God, Nieminen will win tonight.

BlakeorHenman
08-27-2007, 10:19 PM
51 unforced errors to 13 for Nieminen.
If there is a God, Nieminen will win tonight.

But there isnt...

Blue Heart24
08-27-2007, 10:20 PM
Isner's groundstrokes are just horrible.Karlovic's are way better.

Johnny Groove
08-27-2007, 10:20 PM
Check out the old thread regarding his Cinci run. If you can get through the BS you'll see this has been stated before:) Except that he was good at the net in Indy from what I watched. Groundies and side to side movement needs work but he is rather tall;) Also not sure he has the stamina for a slam.

Dearest, he didnt have a run in Cincy, and he didnt even play Indy :hug:

It was DC, sweetheart :hug:

cobalt60
08-27-2007, 10:22 PM
Dearest, he didnt have a run in Cincy, and he didnt even play Indy :hug:

It was DC, sweetheart :hug:

Thanks I am old. I stand corrected and so is my post:p

Grinder
08-27-2007, 10:23 PM
Isner's groundstrokes are just horrible.Karlovic's are way better.

Isner is better than Karlovic. :lol:

BlakeorHenman
08-27-2007, 10:24 PM
He moves a little better than Karlovic, but I think his groundies are comparable.

adee-gee
08-27-2007, 10:25 PM
I actually think his forehand is pretty decent :shrug:

Blue Heart24
08-27-2007, 10:25 PM
Isner is better than Karlovic. :lol:

:spit: :spit: :spit:

Lee
08-27-2007, 10:26 PM
Isner's groundstrokes are just horrible.Karlovic's are way better.


His groundstrokes are out today, especially his volley. Probably too tight playing in Armstrong and his first Slam match.

CooCooCachoo
08-27-2007, 10:41 PM
Yes, he also wins points when his opponent makes an unforced error :clap2:

RickDaStick
08-27-2007, 10:43 PM
No reason to debate who has better ground strokes between Isner and Karlovic. Neither's are very good so lets just leave it at that.

mangoes
08-27-2007, 10:44 PM
51 unforced errors to 13 for Nieminen.
If there is a God, Nieminen will win tonight.

:sad: :sad: He just won the 3rd. Come On Jarkko.

Purple Rainbow
08-27-2007, 10:46 PM
:sad: :sad: He just won the 3rd. Come On Jarkko.


He's used to winning third set tie-breaks, he's in unchartered territory now! :p

cellophane
08-27-2007, 10:48 PM
He is cute... but serve machines really annoy me.

Jogy
08-27-2007, 10:54 PM
If there is a God, Nieminen will win tonight.
:baby: watch Federer's unforced errors then

windy city
08-27-2007, 11:16 PM
Hey what happened in this match. I was watching it and the coverage ended in the middle of the freakin tiebreaker.

star
08-27-2007, 11:18 PM
I actually think his forehand is pretty decent :shrug:

Me too. He has a blistering forehand he can use to advantage. I've seen him win points with it.

Voo de Mar
08-27-2007, 11:25 PM
If there is a God, Nieminen will win tonight.

:lol:

star
08-27-2007, 11:29 PM
I guess Isner also can win a big point with a backhand too. ;)

Magus13
08-27-2007, 11:33 PM
Isner is an exagerated form of Roddick. Taller, Bigger Serves, Worse Groundstrokes.

Grinder
08-27-2007, 11:53 PM
:spit: :spit: :spit:


Sorry, much better is more appropriate. :D

Agree on the forehand bit.

Andi-M
08-28-2007, 12:26 AM
His groundies and movement are pretty average but I expext him to have a better career than Karlovic and crack the top 20 at some point with some decent coaching.

He could give Fed nightmares in 3R too

TheBoiledEgg
08-28-2007, 12:30 AM
cant wait for Fed to clean his clock

Voo de Mar
08-28-2007, 12:32 AM
His groundies and movement are pretty average but I expext him to have a better career than Karlovic and crack the top 20 at some point with some decent coaching.

He could give Fed nightmares in 3R too

Isner seems to be a better fighter than Dr. Ivo. This is a signal that Isner should win more important tie-breaks than Ivo and avoids very poor Karlovic's five-set record. I expect also a better career for Isner (excluding clay courts).

selyoink
08-28-2007, 12:36 AM
Isner has no game other than serve. He is a disgrace to tennis.

rocketassist
08-28-2007, 01:23 AM
Isner has no game other than serve. He is a disgrace to tennis.

No, people like you moaning about it are a disgrace to tennis.

dylan24
08-28-2007, 01:40 AM
can't wait til federer gives isner a beatdown on ashe

GlennMirnyi
08-28-2007, 02:53 AM
Isner has no game other than serve. He is a disgrace to tennis.

Can you be a little more retarded?

Natasc
08-28-2007, 03:17 AM
No, people like you moaning about it are a disgrace to tennis.

I sort of agree with you....

the guy can volley, and honestly, I believe that serve & volley is one of the prettiest styles on tennis

if you don't like the guy don't waste your time on him
but call him a disgrace to tennis is sort of disrespectful to him :shrug:

just IMO

BlakeorHenman
08-28-2007, 04:03 AM
Isner has no game other than serve. He is a disgrace to tennis.

its not Isners fault tennis has evolved into a sport in which he can do well. maybe your idea of what is disgraceful to tennis is simply outdated.

guille&tati4life
08-28-2007, 04:15 AM
Isner and Karlovic can hardly play tennis, they just serve :zzz:

jcempire
08-28-2007, 04:27 AM
I actually think his forehand is pretty decent :shrug:

But, Bad backHand. His BH is much worse than Young. Young got both great FH and BH

star
08-28-2007, 05:39 AM
But, Bad backHand. His BH is much worse than Young. Young got both great FH and BH

What does that have to do with the question posed?

Forehander
08-28-2007, 05:47 AM
na

scarecrows
08-28-2007, 10:57 AM
If there is a God, Nieminen will win tonight.

and we have our answer

groundstroke
08-28-2007, 11:04 AM
Didnt he break Jarkko to win the match? :|

groundstroke
08-28-2007, 11:07 AM
Isner has no game other than serve. He is a disgrace to tennis.
So what? He still wins matches, and he's in the second round now.
People like you disgrace me, I wish you'd rot in hell.

Rumour
08-28-2007, 11:14 AM
he didnt have a run in Cincy
That's right - Isner was out-hit and out-served by 'little' Ferrer during his first round exit ;)

Ivo#1Fan
08-28-2007, 02:25 PM
Isner seems to be a better fighter than Dr. Ivo. This is a signal that Isner should win more important tie-breaks than Ivo and avoids very poor Karlovic's five-set record. I expect also a better career for Isner (excluding clay courts).

I think a big difference is that Isner hits more 1st serves in the TBs and also just overall goes for more on 2nd serve. He seems to have more double faults but ends up winning more 2nd serve points. I'd like to see Ivo pull the Phillipousis strategy and just go for two 1st serves and serve and volley all points. Ivo almost never double faults and I don't think that's a good thing.

Voo de Mar
08-28-2007, 02:36 PM
I think a big difference is that Isner hits more 1st serves in the TBs and also just overall goes for more on 2nd serve. He seems to have more double faults but ends up winning more 2nd serve points. I'd like to see Ivo pull the Phillipousis strategy and just go for two 1st serves and serve and volley all points. Ivo almost never double faults and I don't think that's a good thing.

Interesting observation, I agree with this. I've got fresh in my mind Ivo's match against Federer in Montreal. And I was pissed off because Ivo was playing very conservative on 2nd serve :mad: Moreover he was staying on the baseline on Federer's serve all the time :o

guille&tati4life
08-28-2007, 03:11 PM
So what? He still wins matches, and he's in the second round now.
People like you disgrace me, I wish you'd rot in hell.

So, the guy doesn't like watching him.

You bizarre person :eek: what an over-reaction to someone talking about tennis :haha: :cuckoo:

Purple Rainbow
08-28-2007, 03:53 PM
and we have our answer

I am an atheist anyway.

Voo de Mar
08-28-2007, 03:57 PM
I am an atheist anyway.

:lol:

star
08-28-2007, 04:03 PM
In response to the question does Isner win points other than aces and service winners: He wins points with that smile and those eyes... at least with me. :) :)

GlennMirnyi
08-28-2007, 04:05 PM
Isner and Karlovic can hardly play tennis, they just serve :zzz:

:rolleyes:

Serving is part of tennis.

MatchFederer
08-28-2007, 04:09 PM
Congrats Isner for making sure that you have pretty much mastered arguably the most important skill in tennis.

ae wowww
08-28-2007, 04:39 PM
I actually think his forehand is pretty decent :shrug:

You're quite right about the FH. I think Karlovic is better at the net, however. Give Isner a chance though guys, his game has a lot of time to improve at this level. His first Grand Slam, MD or quallies.

W!MBLEDON
08-28-2007, 05:10 PM
'federer-isner'? uh oh john, look out - expectation! get ready for a loss against de voest