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Max Mirnyi battles past Baghdatis 6-3 7-5 3-6 7-6 (6)

Burrow
08-27-2007, 07:32 PM
What an epic, great from Max.:D :worship: 3 hours 22 minutes

MatchFederer
08-27-2007, 07:33 PM
Congrats! :D

Mistaflava
08-27-2007, 07:33 PM
Baghdatis is a complete disgrace to tennis...one of the most useless players on tour.

TheBoiledEgg
08-27-2007, 07:33 PM
Max :yeah: :D :)
long time no win

Louche
08-27-2007, 07:33 PM
Wow. :eek:

LocoPorElTenis
08-27-2007, 07:33 PM
what a crappy start to the open. Nice choking in that tb Marcos :help:

Andre♥
08-27-2007, 07:33 PM
I'm proud of being a Mirnyi fan today.

Amazing match and 100% deserved.

Burrow
08-27-2007, 07:33 PM
Crappy start? It was a great match :shrug:

cobalt60
08-27-2007, 07:33 PM
2 nice guys but I am thrilled for Max :yeah:

MatchFederer
08-27-2007, 07:34 PM
Baggys performance after being 5-1 up in the 4th set tiebreak was poor...

mangoes
08-27-2007, 07:34 PM
Happy for Mirnyi:hug:

but, all I can do is :rolleyes: :rolleyes: at Baghdatis:o

selyoink
08-27-2007, 07:35 PM
Baghdatis is a joke

MatchFederer
08-27-2007, 07:35 PM
It was interesting as always to see to players with such contrasting styles playing tennis... thoroughly deserved victory from Maximus.

silverwhite
08-27-2007, 07:35 PM
Max :D

vincayou
08-27-2007, 07:36 PM
Not enough first serve from Marcos, but entertaining match from what I saw.

Dissapointing year for Marcos.

spriwi
08-27-2007, 07:36 PM
awful passing shots marcos & where was his 1st serve when he needed it??? :( i m VERY dissapointed with his performance...

anyways congrats max

Clara Bow
08-27-2007, 07:36 PM
Oh Baggy- you never fail to disappoint. :(

Congrats to Max.

RagingLamb
08-27-2007, 07:36 PM
well done to mirnyi :yeah:

Baghdatis...what is wrong with you?

krystlel
08-27-2007, 07:36 PM
The crowd seemed to be getting into it from what I saw which was only half of the fourth set. It was an exciting match, nice contrast of styles.

Mirnyi was chipping and charging off almost every return. :eek: Not often you see that.

Psichogauchovna
08-27-2007, 07:37 PM
damn choker :o :sad: :(

Burrow
08-27-2007, 07:38 PM
Dylan is a fantastic member of this board.

l_mac
08-27-2007, 07:38 PM
:lol: Baggy.

Good match from Mirnyi.

Rogiman
08-27-2007, 07:39 PM
I like Marcos' ball striking and all, but it seems to me the guy is just stupid, not the 'bad management' sort of stupid but more the 'low intelligence' sort of stupid.

Hard to root for someone that stupid.

Fumus
08-27-2007, 07:40 PM
Baghy chokes away a 5-1 lead in the final set tb.

Nadie
08-27-2007, 07:40 PM
Max :woohoo: :woohoo: :yeah:

what a great match :hug:

cobalt60
08-27-2007, 07:40 PM
I like Marcos' ball striking and all, but it seems to me the guy is just stupid, not the 'bad management' sort of stupid but more the 'low intelligence' sort of stupid.

Hard to root for someone that stupid.

:p Well how many players don't you root for;)

UDACHi
08-27-2007, 07:41 PM
that's excellent for max! :D
he played really well. i thought he would lose the tiebreak for sure after he blew the first match point, but he kept fighting.
marcos is becoming quite the choker. :o

mangoes
08-27-2007, 07:41 PM
I like Marcos' ball striking and all, but it seems to me the guy is just stupid, not the 'bad management' sort of stupid but more the 'low intelligence' sort of stupid.

Hard to root for someone that stupid.

That's the funniest post I've read for the day:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Baghdatis72
08-27-2007, 07:42 PM
what a crappy start to the open. Nice choking in that tb Marcos :help:

He is an expert in choking nowadays :help:


marcos has to be half french
fuck off and go back to greece asshole

1) He did spend 8 years in France.
2) He's from Cyprus not Greece.

G4.
08-27-2007, 07:43 PM
no choke here he just sucked

Rumour
08-27-2007, 07:43 PM
Can't say I didn't see this one coming as I called it in another thread and bet two big ones (v$2) on Mirnyi :angel: But I was honestly torn as I really like Baghdatis and want him to do well - just didn't see it happening with his current form and having already lost this year to the Belarussian on clay :devil: Congrats Max and keep on S&Ving your way back to better tennis form :yeah:

Baghdatis72
08-27-2007, 07:45 PM
I like Marcos' ball striking and all, but it seems to me the guy is just stupid, not the 'bad management' sort of stupid but more the 'low intelligence' sort of stupid.

Hard to root for someone that stupid.

That's very possible and I got the same impression when I saw him live and close.

Rogiman
08-27-2007, 07:48 PM
That's very possible and I got the same impression when I saw him live and close.Yeah, so often players are raised by their fans to gods' level and almost always they're just dumb athletes, but this guy really stands out in that department.

*Viva Chile*
08-27-2007, 07:48 PM
Congrats Max :yeah:
Marcos :o

p.d: where is Gustavo? :lol:

Baghdatis72
08-27-2007, 07:52 PM
Yeah, so often players are raised by their fans to gods' level and almost always they're just dumb athletes, but this guy really stands out in that department.

His professional decisions are not the most clever ones and also his court appearance looks casual most of the times.

And the serve? It's getting worse every week.

stacy25
08-27-2007, 07:53 PM
:( Sad

trixtah
08-27-2007, 07:53 PM
Tennis loses. Though it was entertaining.

cobalt60
08-27-2007, 07:54 PM
That's the funniest post I've read for the day:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, so often players are raised by their fans to gods' level and almost always they're just dumb athletes, but this guy really stands out in that department.

^^ And that's the smartest one;)

Rogiman
08-27-2007, 07:55 PM
His professional decisions are not the most clever ones and also his court appearance looks casual most of the times.

And the serve? It's getting worse every week.I suspect he's too stupid to even understand his problems.

trixtah
08-27-2007, 07:56 PM
I suspect he's too stupid to even understand his problems.

That's why he has banked 2 million in prize money and we...now wait a minute...

Rogiman
08-27-2007, 07:57 PM
That's why he has banked 2 million in prize money and we...now wait a minute...This post shows you and Baggy could be best friends.

mangoes
08-27-2007, 07:58 PM
^^ And that's the smartest one;)

Very true statements from Rogiman. The first one just made me start to laugh. It was a true statement about Baghdatis, written in an interesting manner:lol: :lol:

Baghdatis72
08-27-2007, 08:01 PM
I suspect he's too stupid to even understand his problems.

Why else would he hire a coach with no experience at the top level of tennis?

Voo de Mar
08-27-2007, 08:02 PM
Great attacking game by Max :bigclap: His frequency of attacks with slice returns on Baghdatis' backhand was crazy.
Baghdatis was leading 5:1 in the tie-break after saving MP in the 12th game :D

Rogiman
08-27-2007, 08:03 PM
Why else would he hire a coach with no experience at the top level of tennis?Must have been the only coach to agree on one practice session per week.

Baghdatis72
08-27-2007, 08:06 PM
Must have been the only coach to agree on one practice session per week.

Don't say that as a joke as it might have some truth in it.

The fact is that if you really want to improve and become one of the best, you hire someone who can help you get there and train hard in a place which can help you train hard with competition. Instead of that he hired an inexperienced coach and moved to Cyprus :help:

This shows that he prefers to have a good time and be with his friends and family instead of reaching his potential.

Byrd
08-27-2007, 08:15 PM
I don't understand why Baghdatis plays such a passive game, he has the game and everything but plays the most stupidiest shots at the wrong moments.

martine2
08-27-2007, 08:15 PM
Congrats Max :yeah:
Marcos :o

p.d: where is Gustavo? :lol:

Probably too extatic to come here :lol:

Congrats to Max!

Rogiman
08-27-2007, 08:17 PM
I don't understand why Baghdatis plays such a passive game, he has the game and everything but plays the most stupidiest shots at the wrong moments.Key word highlighted.

Byrd
08-27-2007, 08:22 PM
Key word highlighted.

Theres alot more keywords you can add to that list to describe him and his game :o

Neely
08-27-2007, 08:30 PM
Good play from Mirnyi as well :eek: He can beat such opponents, but it was so unexpected because he hardly did it at all for a long time. To be honest, I didn't expect him to win this because I thought Baghdatis bagged him after the third set. And of course very important hold in that 9 deuces 7th game of the fourth set.

Björki
08-27-2007, 08:30 PM
great win for Max :bigclap:

Merton
08-27-2007, 08:40 PM
Good win for Max, once he showed up in form this would always be a close match but Marcos should really win that 4th set tiebreak from 5-1 up.

Merton
08-27-2007, 08:41 PM
I like Marcos' ball striking and all, but it seems to me the guy is just stupid, not the 'bad management' sort of stupid but more the 'low intelligence' sort of stupid.

Hard to root for someone that stupid.

Disagree there, I think he just gets too emotional at times to think clearly. But Max has a tricky style for him anyway.

Merton
08-27-2007, 08:43 PM
Don't say that as a joke as it might have some truth in it.

The fact is that if you really want to improve and become one of the best, you hire someone who can help you get there and train hard in a place which can help you train hard with competition. Instead of that he hired an inexperienced coach and moved to Cyprus :help:

This shows that he prefers to have a good time and be with his friends and family instead of reaching his potential.

Well, you are too much in a hurry to reach conclusions there, at this point it would be more important for Marcos to feel comfortable and decide in peace where he wants to go with his game. Have you forgotten what a train wreck he was early in the year?

Ma. Estefania
08-27-2007, 09:07 PM
Nice match....last set was a thrilling one.

I love upsets

MCL
08-27-2007, 09:11 PM
Good win for Max

but :smash: Marcos

Greg-Pete fan
08-27-2007, 09:11 PM
Great attacking game by Max :bigclap: His frequency of attacks with slice returns on Baghdatis' backhand was crazy.
Baghdatis was leading 5:1 in the tie-break after saving MP in the 12th game :D

And had one set point at 6-5 in the tiebreaker :)

DDrago2
08-27-2007, 09:11 PM
Baghdatiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

dylan24
08-27-2007, 09:15 PM
now we know why the french hottie dumped baggy.
she knew he was a 1 hit wonder

scarecrows
08-27-2007, 09:16 PM
well, Max got the right moment to come back to winning a match

Lee
08-27-2007, 09:19 PM
well done to mirnyi :yeah:

Baghdatis...what is wrong with you?

Baggy can't find his first serve today. ;)

rofe
08-27-2007, 09:23 PM
Marcos should have won the 4th. Anyway, he got intimidated by the net rushing and kept his 1st serve % at an all time low and paid the price.

jonny84
08-27-2007, 09:26 PM
Shocker. :eek:

Really gutted. Thought Marcos has no problems here. :sad:

sykotique
08-27-2007, 09:26 PM
Mirnyi came to the net over 150 times.

That is the definition of perseverance.

Raquel
08-27-2007, 09:30 PM
Well done Max :D
Always fun to watch him gamble on returns and see what happens. Great comeback in the tiebreak :yeah:

BlakeorHenman
08-27-2007, 10:30 PM
Expected win, right GlennMirnyi?

Wait... where the fuck is Glenn on this one?

Jogy
08-27-2007, 10:35 PM
funny that a joke like Miryni suddenly beats Baghdatis :lol:

most times Baghdatis is playing good in the Grand Slams

BlakeorHenman
08-27-2007, 10:41 PM
funny that a joke like Miryni suddenly beats Baghdatis :lol:

most times Baghdatis is playing good in the Grand Slams

ehh.. Max has been in a slump. I don't think he's a joke, really.

star
08-27-2007, 10:51 PM
Max is not a joke and never has been. He's on the downside of his career right now, but he's one of the very few serve and volley men playing tennis now.

I still remember that great match he and Guga had and the USO. That was a real contrast in styles and something we don't see much of anymore.

Kalliopeia
08-27-2007, 10:52 PM
:eek::help:

Halba
08-27-2007, 10:53 PM
marcos is truly in a slump now :help:

to lose gainst mirnyi?

leng jai
08-27-2007, 10:59 PM
Glenn hates baggy. He probably had this win pencilled in days ago.

Il Primo Uomo
08-27-2007, 11:05 PM
Marcos, France ruined your mental toughness :sad:
Disappointing loss, once again.

Marek.
08-27-2007, 11:15 PM
Max :D :yeah:

Baggy :sad:

Baghdatis72
08-27-2007, 11:23 PM
Mirnyi came to the net over 150 times.

That is the definition of perseverance.

Baghdatis didn't even lob Max 1 time in the whole match :eek: :retard:

How can you win a match against a S&V player without even trying at least to lob him once in a while? No wonder Max came to the net all the time.

Baghdatis :silly: :retard: :help:

And the irony is that neither him or his coach realized it for it to happen all the time :retard:

Totally unprofessional and brainless :tape:

Halba
08-27-2007, 11:26 PM
baghdatis72 - atleast you are on the Nole bandwagon now hopefully less disappointments from nole.

Burrow
08-27-2007, 11:26 PM
Baghdatis didn't even lob Max 1 time in the whole match :eek: :retard:

How can you win a match against a S&V player without even trying at least to lob him once in a while? No wonder Max came to the net all the time.

Baghdatis :silly: :retard: :help:

And the irony is that neither him or his coach realized it for it to happen all the time :retard:

Yes Baghdatis did realise, he mocked himself a couple of times, making some hand gestures in a lobbing sort of action.

star
08-27-2007, 11:27 PM
Baghdatis didn't even lob Max 1 time in the whole match :eek: :retard:

How can you win a match against a S&V player without even trying at least to lob him once in a while? No wonder Max came to the net all the time.

Baghdatis :silly: :retard: :help:

And the irony is that neither him or his coach realized it for it to happen all the time :retard:

Totally unprofessional and brainless :tape:

I don't have a memory of Baghdatis's lob, but Max isn't easy to lob. Does Baghdatis have a credible lob?

stebs
08-27-2007, 11:30 PM
Baghdatis didn't even lob Max 1 time in the whole match :eek: :retard:

How can you win a match against a S&V player without even trying at least to lob him once in a while? No wonder Max came to the net all the time.

Baghdatis :silly: :retard: :help:

And the irony is that neither him or his coach realized it for it to happen all the time :retard:

Totally unprofessional and brainless :tape:

If he isn't confident with the shot why would he try it against a big guy with a good overhead like Mirnyi? It's not brainless to not lob.

The brainless things Baghdatis did in the match were not few but a lack of lobs is not one of them. The stupidest thing was refusing to take a little off the first serve and raise his percentage, he gave Max every chance to attack the second serve.

Baghdatis72
08-27-2007, 11:37 PM
baghdatis72 - atleast you are on the Nole bandwagon now hopefully less disappointments from nole.

:D

Yes Baghdatis did realise, he mocked himself a couple of times, making some hand gestures in a lobbing sort of action.

Didn't seem to apply it though.

I don't have a memory of Baghdatis's lob, but Max isn't easy to lob. Does Baghdatis have a credible lob?

His lob isn't bad.

If he isn't confident with the shot why would he try it against a big guy with a good overhead like Mirnyi? It's not brainless to not lob.

The brainless things Baghdatis did in the match were not few but a lack of lobs is not one of them. The stupidest thing was refusing to take a little off the first serve and raise his percentage, he gave Max every chance to attack the second serve.

Would it be madness to try at least once though? He could try 1-2 times and if it doesn't work he can try something else.
To beat a player playing S&V you need to be able to hit good passing shots, lobs and deep shots to force him to stay at the back when you want him there. Also it helps getting the 1st serve in once in a while to avoid having to beat him from the net all the time.

star
08-27-2007, 11:46 PM
:D



Didn't seem to apply it though.



His lob isn't bad.



Would it be madness to try at least once though? He could try 1-2 times and if it doesn't work he can try something else.
To beat a player playing S&V you need to be able to hit good passing shots, lobs and deep shots to force him to stay at the back when you want him there. Also it helps getting the 1st serve in once in a while to avoid having to beat him from the net all the time.

I didn't see the match, but I see what you mean. Max can get really tight to the net and any pure s&v player needs to be lobbed at least a few times to keep him a bit back from the net. It's got to be a really good lob to get over Max and still drop into the court though. I remember how intimidating Max used to be at the net. Baghdatis may not have been at his best, but it's nice to see a good win for Max again. Did Jonas win today as well? I love that doubles partnership. :)

Deivid23
08-27-2007, 11:47 PM
I wonder why Marcos always served the same 2nd serve onto Mirnyi´s bh when it´s his preferred shot to approach the net. Brainless tennis at its finest :help:

Lee
08-27-2007, 11:48 PM
I hadn't watched much of the match but I did see Marco tried to lob once but the ball was out.

stebs
08-27-2007, 11:51 PM
Would it be madness to try at least once though? He could try 1-2 times and if it doesn't work he can try something else.
To beat a player playing S&V you need to be able to hit good passing shots, lobs and deep shots to force him to stay at the back when you want him there. Also it helps getting the 1st serve in once in a while to avoid having to beat him from the net all the time.

I already addressed the situation with the 1st serve percentage and if it doesn't go up he is going to struggle.

It wouldn't be madness to try it and nor would you ever see me suggest such a thing but I am just saying it is not brainless to NOT try it.

PS - Sorry about that last sentance, I hope it makes sense but I am a little lost amongst all the double negatives.

Baghdatis72
08-27-2007, 11:58 PM
I already addressed the situation with the 1st serve percentage and if it doesn't go up he is going to struggle.

It wouldn't be madness to try it and nor would you ever see me suggest such a thing but I am just saying it is not brainless to NOT try it.

PS - Sorry about that last sentance, I hope it makes sense but I am a little lost amongst all the double negatives.

Okay then it would be reasonable to try a lob against a S&V player but it wouldn't be brainless not to ;)

Yeah I understand. We have -4 :help:

Andi-M
08-28-2007, 12:22 AM
Pathetic from Baggy

But great job Max :drool:

Volcanic Tennis
08-28-2007, 12:36 AM
Max:hug::worship::inlove: Amazing

Sleepwalker64
08-28-2007, 12:53 AM
Marcos:sad:

GlennMirnyi
08-28-2007, 01:05 AM
Congrats Max :yeah:
Marcos :o

p.d: where is Gustavo? :lol:

Expected win, right GlennMirnyi?

Wait... where the fuck is Glenn on this one?

Glenn hates baggy. He probably had this win pencilled in days ago.

Max defeated him in Monte Carlo, this was as predictable as then. Baghdatis is a baseliner clown, can't cope with the pressure.

Baghdatis didn't even lob Max 1 time in the whole match :eek: :retard:

How can you win a match against a S&V player without even trying at least to lob him once in a while? No wonder Max came to the net all the time.

Baghdatis :silly: :retard: :help:

And the irony is that neither him or his coach realized it for it to happen all the time :retard:

Totally unprofessional and brainless :tape:

It's not like he'll ever lob Max.

switz
08-28-2007, 01:15 AM
Baghdatis is fast falling into the also ran category.

StevoTG
08-28-2007, 02:20 AM
Good win beast :)

ReturnWinner
08-28-2007, 02:50 AM
i just watched few games of the first set and last game of the second set,Max played very well, as usual his serve was a big weapon and volleyed and covered the net very well -as usual too :)-

BAMJ6
08-28-2007, 03:15 AM
Well so much for the challenge before Davydenko for the J-Block. It's the slam i care about the most cause it's next door to Shea Stadium and close to home. So i post again

NYCtennisfan
08-28-2007, 03:19 AM
Baggy couldn't buy a 1st serve (like usual) but made absolutely no adjustments. He should've taken a little off of the 1st serve, ge them in play, and thus not have to deal with the chip and charge tactics of Mirnyi.

+alonso
08-28-2007, 04:18 AM
Baad body language shown by Marcos!
He also CHOKED a 5-1 lead in TB! :ras: :sad:
..Just when I tought He was coming back, esp in the 4th set, He started to crumble!
His return game wasn't the best today either, He returned quite well during 3rd set but couldn't mantain!

:shrug: Better luck in the future

keqtqiadv
08-28-2007, 04:58 AM
Max :worship:

Seneca
08-28-2007, 06:59 AM
It's not like he'll ever lob Max.
Hell, Mirnyi lobbed Baghdatis more than the other way around.

Fine match with great entertainment value. It's usually a pleasure to watch Max with the way he keeps things happening all the time instead of the common status quo -ballbashing.

Action Jackson
08-28-2007, 07:07 AM
Max playing like a donkey all year comes out and plays a good match, he needs a big result to save his singles career.

As for Baghdatis, I have already said many times about his serve and cause he doesn't have a kick serve or enough variation , it's just flat and when under pressure he is going to serve double faults and miss 1st serves cause of a lack of margin for error.

It's great to have all the tactics, but it counts for nowt if it can't be executed.

Action Jackson
08-28-2007, 07:11 AM
I wonder why Marcos always served the same 2nd serve onto Mirnyi´s bh when it´s his preferred shot to approach the net. Brainless tennis at its finest :help:

You mean on the deuce court? He always does that, it doesn't matter who he plays, he will hit 95 percent of the 2nd serves down the middle on the deuce court and that is being kind.

Seneca
08-28-2007, 07:15 AM
Max playing like a donkey all year comes out and plays a good match, he needs a big result to save his singles career.
Man, I had no idea he was out of the top 100. The result was more of a surprise than I actually thought.

Fensler
08-28-2007, 09:12 AM
Good to see that The Beast was unleashed at a Grand Slam.

Keep chipping and charging, Beast.

MariaV
08-28-2007, 09:16 AM
Pathetic Marcos! :( :rolleyes:

Fensler
08-28-2007, 09:21 AM
Max playing like a donkey all year comes out and plays a good match, he needs a big result to save his singles career.

As for Baghdatis, I have already said many times about his serve and cause he doesn't have a kick serve or enough variation , it's just flat and when under pressure he is going to serve double faults and miss 1st serves cause of a lack of margin for error.

It's great to have all the tactics, but it counts for nowt if it can't be executed.

Nice analysis of Baghdatis's serve there.

I recall this same problem plaguing him at Wimbledon versus Djokovic. Even though I didn't have a rooting interest in the outcome of that match, it was still frustrating to watch him lose in such a way.

Baghdatis72
08-28-2007, 10:48 AM
Nice analysis of Baghdatis's serve there.

I recall this same problem plaguing him at Wimbledon versus Djokovic. Even though I didn't have a rooting interest in the outcome of that match, it was still frustrating to watch him lose in such a way.

Has the talent, lacks the brain and a good coach.

Deivid23
08-28-2007, 12:10 PM
You mean on the deuce court? He always does that, it doesn't matter who he plays, he will hit 95 percent of the 2nd serves down the middle on the deuce court and that is being kind.

No, I mean in both sides, check out almost every single break point he had against

Action Jackson
08-28-2007, 12:17 PM
No, I mean in both sides, check out almost every single break point he had against

Yes, the predictability of his serve is a problem, when it goes in.

stebs
08-28-2007, 12:31 PM
No, I mean in both sides, check out almost every single break point he had against

:yeah:

It's as if Baghdatis wasn't even paying attention to what was happening and just assumed that Mirnyi's BH was the weaker wing because that's the way it is with most players.

On the AD side when facing BP it's not an easier serve for him so the only explanation is that he got his tactis completely wrong.

Julio
08-28-2007, 12:44 PM
In this match, Marcos's serve was a disaster. An intelligent player would have changed of strategy. For example, trying to put some first serve IN with less speed-power. If first serve is IN, Mirnyi doesn't go to the net. Then, we all know that a Beast who stays on baseline is a lion in cage.

Baghdatis72
08-28-2007, 12:53 PM
Baghdatis played exactly as Mirnyi wanted him to play and the only chance he had to beat him like that was to hit accurate passing shots all the time which is almost impossible to do.

GlennMirnyi
08-28-2007, 04:16 PM
Hell, Mirnyi lobbed Baghdatis more than the other way around.

Fine match with great entertainment value. It's usually a pleasure to watch Max with the way he keeps things happening all the time instead of the common status quo -ballbashing.

Very wise words.

MatchFederer
08-28-2007, 04:24 PM
Baghdatis played exactly as Mirnyi wanted him to play and the only chance he had to beat him like that was to hit accurate passing shots all the time which is almost impossible to do.

What??? By your logic Max has a decent chance to win the US Open???

GlennMirnyi
08-28-2007, 04:27 PM
What??? By your logic Max has a decent chance to win the US Open???

I believe he means impossible as in "Baghdatis is damn stupid and can't hit them".

The_Nadal_effect
08-28-2007, 04:28 PM
I like Marcos' ball striking and all, but it seems to me the guy is just stupid, not the 'bad management' sort of stupid but more the 'low intelligence' sort of stupid.

Hard to root for someone that stupid.

A bad day at office for Baggy and see what kind of posts accumulate here.:rolleyes:

MatchFederer
08-28-2007, 04:33 PM
I believe he means impossible as in "Baghdatis is damn stupid and can't hit them".

I am just going to presume that he DID mean that instead of trying to cover Baggys loss and making him/herself feel better about it through blind and insane beliefs then.

Sunset of Age
08-28-2007, 04:37 PM
A bad day at office for Baggy and see what kind of posts accumulate here.:rolleyes:

A question: did you actually SEE the match?
I did, and I tell you, it was NOT just a matter of Baggy playing 'stupid' (I'd rather express it as, 'he had no clue whatsoever what to do') - Max Myrni played a very intelligent, high quality serve-volley game, and Baggy just had *NO* answer to it at all. Of course, the fact that Baggy's serve was highly MIA wasn't helping him either - but in this very case I think Myrni deserves more credit for his playing than just saying it was a matter of his opponent not appearing.

Baghdatis72
08-28-2007, 04:49 PM
What??? By your logic Max has a decent chance to win the US Open???

No way!!! :eek:

You completely misinterpreted my post.

What I meant was that Max wanted Baghdatis to play the way he played because that way he had an advantage against him. With the way that Baghdatis played he would have to hit many passing shots without missing to win the match. If Baghdatis was clever he would use a completely different tactic against him and that way he wouldn't need to hit all those passing shots to have a chance to win the match.

I believe he means impossible as in "Baghdatis is damn stupid and can't hit them".

What I mean is that even though he can hit passing shots, he can't get them right all the time and therefore he will lose a lot of points in the process.

My point is that if he used another strategy which was more clever than the one he used he wouldn't need to hit so many passing shots to win.

I am just going to presume that he DID mean that instead of trying to cover Baggys loss and making him/herself feel better about it through blind and insane beliefs then.

That's the opposite of what I am trying to do and proves that you haven't read anything posted in the last 3-4 pages of the topic.

MatchFederer
08-28-2007, 04:53 PM
No way!!! :eek:

You completely misinterpreted my post.

What I meant was that Max wanted Baghdatis to play the way he played because that way he had an advantage against him. With the way that Baghdatis played he would have to hit many passing shots without missing to win the match. If Baghdatis was clever he would use a completely different tactic against him and that way he wouldn't need to hit all those passing shots to have a chance to win the match.

Thanks for clarifying because it was definitely a post that could be interpreted in both ways.

That's the opposite of what I am trying to do and proves that you haven't read anything posted in the last 3-4 pages of the topic.

Give me a break, I said I would presume you weren't doing that... i.e giving you the benefit of the doubt! :silly:

Oh yeah, and I have read every post in this thread.

The_Nadal_effect
08-28-2007, 04:55 PM
A question: did you actually SEE the match?
.

Ok. I didn't see the match, but I was hoping you weren't there to notice. :p

I did, and I tell you, it was NOT just a matter of Baggy playing 'stupid' (I'd rather express it as, 'he had no clue whatsoever what to do') - Max Myrni played a very intelligent, high quality serve-volley game, and Baggy just had *NO* answer to it at all. Of course, the fact that Baggy's serve was highly MIA wasn't helping him either - but in this very case I think Myrni deserves more credit for his playing than just saying it was a matter of his opponent not appearing

Done. Give credit to Mirnyi then, but Rogiman's comment of Baggy having 'low intelligence' does not hold. Its more the other way around: Mirnyi had an exceptional day at office. We know how good the Beast from Belarus actually is.

MatchFederer
08-28-2007, 04:58 PM
I agree The_Nadal_Effect. I was very impressed with Mirnyi's strong mentality and relentless aggression and belief. Maximus deserves major cred.

Sunset of Age
08-28-2007, 05:13 PM
Ok. I didn't see the match, but I was hoping you weren't there to notice. :p

Done. Give credit to Mirnyi then, but Rogiman's comment of Baggy having 'low intelligence' does not hold. Its more the other way around: Mirnyi had an exceptional day at office. We know how good the Beast from Belarus actually is.

I agree The_Nadal_Effect. I was very impressed with Mirnyi's strong mentality and relentless aggression and belief. Maximus deserves major cred.

Agree with you both... :hug: :hug: :hug: - in all honesty, while watching the match, I thought Baggy had the best chances to win that 4th set (and he SHOULD have!), whereafter he'd be able to win the match after all. But nay - Max did wonderful, winning that 4th set despite being behind in the TB with 1-5 :eek:, and deservedly won the match.

I'm sad to see Baggy leave the tournament this early, as he's a great, funny guy - but on the other hand, I thought it very welcome to finally see a player play the old 'serve volley'-style at such a high level. I'm looking forward to Max's next match!

MatchFederer
08-28-2007, 05:17 PM
Yeah.. I pretty much agree with all of that and I too am looking forward to Mirnyi's next match.. I must say though, these hugs are rather overwhelming! :hearts: ... :p

Baghdatis72
08-28-2007, 05:19 PM
Thanks for clarifying because it was definitely a post that could be interpreted in both ways.


Give me a break, I said I would presume you weren't doing that... i.e giving you the benefit of the doubt! :silly:

Oh yeah, and I have read every post in this thread.

Thanks for the benefit of a doubt :p

Then you would know that I am not trying to defend Baghdatis but I am rather attacking him for the way he played and his attitude. Mirnyi outplayed him in all areas yesterday and even though he could change obvious things in his tactics to turn things his way, he couldn't figure it out.

Sunset of Age
08-28-2007, 05:19 PM
Yeah.. I pretty much agree with all of that and I too am looking forward to Mirnyi's next match.. I must say though, these hugs are rather overwhelming! :hearts: ... :p

I really like to give some :hug: once in a while... :kiss: :D

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-28-2007, 06:41 PM
Happy for Max! :hearts:

bavaria100
08-28-2007, 07:42 PM
Max :woohoo: :woohoo: