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Borg: 'Federer will win 16 Grand Slams'

IFoughtThe
08-23-2007, 03:27 PM
And he says he will be the greatest ever.

Strong stuff.

Good US Open preview this actually.

http://www.mixbroadcast.com/podcasts/blackrock_podcast_5.mp3

MatchFederer
08-23-2007, 03:29 PM
Sensible estimate.

MatchFederer
08-23-2007, 03:35 PM
:lol: Everybody should listen to this.. Muster is a hilarious man!

Action Jackson
08-23-2007, 03:36 PM
This is quite funny, especially Meligieni who can finally say " I am a senior and he couldn't believe he could beat Muster, hehehe".

MatchFederer
08-23-2007, 03:39 PM
HA! Yes I laughed at that bit too... very amusing.

lina_seta
08-23-2007, 03:41 PM
:lol: Everybody should listen to this.. Muster is a hilarious man!

OMG oxy
i love ur avatar haha NEAR!!!!!
Death note =) good stuff

MatchFederer
08-23-2007, 03:45 PM
OMG oxy
i love ur avatar haha NEAR!!!!!
Death note =) good stuff

*Grins similarly to how Near and L grin*

Thanks.. Death Note is one of my favourites, just recently finished watching Monster as well which is just amazing really.

EDIT: By the way, you too have a great avatar, hamsters definitely rock.

Anyway :p I will keep this on topic now.

lina_seta
08-23-2007, 03:46 PM
*Grins similarly to how Near and L grin*

Thanks.. Death Note is one of my favourites, just recently finished watching Monster as well which is just amazing really.

Anyway :p I will keep this on topic now.

lol i was falling asleep before i saw N in ur avatar :D

EDIT: yes DN is one of the greatest... i am roger and hamster obsessed haha...

gjalex
08-23-2007, 04:15 PM
The man just turned 26 and has 11 grand slam titles already.. 16 is surely conservative.

plausibly he could get

1 more this year

2 or 3 next year (turns 27)

2 or 3 the year after (turns 28)

2 or 3 the year after (turns 29)

maybe 2 the year after (turns 30)

Probably at least 2 more in the following years. This is Federer were talking, were not talking about some mere human and he will surely get around 20.

groundstroke
08-23-2007, 04:21 PM
Should be interesting.. Borg is indeed a confident man.

MatchFederer
08-23-2007, 04:23 PM
The man just turned 26 and has 11 grand slam titles already.. 16 is surely conservative.

plausibly he could get

1 more this year

2 or 3 next year (turns 27)

2 or 3 the year after (turns 28)

2 or 3 the year after (turns 29)

maybe 2 the year after (turns 30)

Probably at least 2 more in the following years. This is Federer were talking, were not talking about some mere human and he will surely get around 20.

Well, I am guessing 18. However, things can change very quickly in sport and more great prospects will rise and prosper.

FedFan_2007
08-23-2007, 04:58 PM
I think anywhere from 15-16 is likely based on the rise of the young guns and "The Donald" in 2-3 years.

MatchFederer
08-23-2007, 05:08 PM
I think anywhere from 15-16 is likely based on the rise of the young guns and "The Donald" in 2-3 years.

You believe in Mr.Young then... think he will become a top 5 player?

FedFan_2007
08-23-2007, 05:54 PM
You believe in Mr.Young then... think he will become a top 5 player?

Wasn't McEnroe highly touting "The Donald"? JMac is usually spot on with his talent asssessments. I think No. 5 might happen in 3-4 years, assuming he finishes growing and develops more power in all his shots.

nobama
08-23-2007, 06:35 PM
Quit being such a Fedtard, Bjorn.

Andi-M
08-23-2007, 06:43 PM
I think he will win 2 more austailians and 2 more Wimbledons. Might sneak a RG if 3-4 players are injured. 16 max!!!

barbadosan
08-23-2007, 07:54 PM
I think he will win 2 more austailians and 2 more Wimbledons. Might sneak a RG if 3-4 players are injured. 16 max!!!

If he wins RG, I certainly hope it's with all present and accounted for, so there wll be no temptation to asterisk his win (3-4 players injured)

IFoughtThe
08-24-2007, 02:50 PM
He will surely win the US Open a couple more times as well.

Byrd
08-24-2007, 03:23 PM
Wimbledon will always be lock-in for, only real possibilty to lose is against Nadal or someone playing lights out tennis.

FedFan_2007
08-24-2007, 04:33 PM
Let's see him win #12 first.

Warrior
08-24-2007, 05:25 PM
Let's see him win #12 first.

I think that winning this USO is crucial for him to maintain the momentum and upper hand over the new balls.

FedFan_2007
08-24-2007, 06:11 PM
I think that winning this USO is crucial for him to maintain the momentum and upper hand over the new balls.

No kidding. Not just that, but his window for grand slam excellence is running out. He might have a window of 8-10 slams where he's a true contender.

calvinhobbes
08-24-2007, 10:14 PM
If Roger begins by now a SDP (Steady Decay Pattern), He would win in the next five years roughly 50% of what he has won, it is 5 or 6 GS. So Bjorn Borg is fairly right . . . . .:worship: :worship: :worship:

Mr. Magassi
08-24-2007, 10:22 PM
i think at least 18...

FedFan_2007
08-24-2007, 11:02 PM
i think at least 18...

First he has to prove he can win 12....

MatchFederer
08-24-2007, 11:50 PM
If Roger begins by now a SDP (Steady Decay Pattern), He would win in the next five years roughly 50% of what he has won, it is 5 or 6 GS. So Bjorn Borg is fairly right . . . . .:worship: :worship: :worship:

.. We shall see if Borg is fairly right or not. :cool:

MatchFederer
08-24-2007, 11:52 PM
First he has to prove he can win 12....

You have an extremely cautious outlook today FedFan_2007... unusual. :dance:

Loremaster
08-24-2007, 11:54 PM
He must win 12h first and then stay healthy , one injury here or there and he can end up with 11/12 I do not wish him that to be clear, I am not his fan but I do not wish any harm to anybody and I do not hate people , he was the best player in that 11 GS no matter what all wins very well deserved, anyway winning 16-19 slams and no RG would look even worse than in Sampras case , for me the GOAT will be the player who wins all slams on different surfaces because you have to be totally great with enourmous game to win all 4 and Roger had his chances maybe he will have one more but that's it I don't see him winning it at age of 29-30

MatchFederer
08-24-2007, 11:57 PM
I agree. I think Roger most likely has one more real chance to win RG.

Forehander
08-25-2007, 03:15 AM
damn can't play this. anybody any idea?

IFoughtThe
08-25-2007, 08:10 AM
Couple of different ways - either through Quicktime player or iTunes.

Here are the different links:


To Listen with one click: http://www.mixbroadcast.com/podcasts/blackrock_podcast_5.mp3


To listen via iTunes: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=250864271&s=143444

FedFan_2007
08-25-2007, 08:37 AM
You have an extremely cautious outlook today FedFan_2007... unusual. :dance:

I've learned to appreciate the setbacks life can throw at you and that's why I take it one day at a time. So does Fed. He doesn't take anything for granted, he's even talking up the qualifiers.

gjalex
08-25-2007, 08:40 AM
I don't see him winning it at age of 29-30

Agassi won an Australian open final at 32 and made a US open final at 35, you just can't tell how an athletes body is going to cope with the ageing process. A few people have noted that Federer *might* be in a minor slump by his exceptional standards at the moment, however, having just turned 26 I don't think ageing has anything to do with it, so this slump cannot be extrapolated as a future trend due to ageing, that is, it is not yet verifiable as to whether Federers body is going to cope well or badly with ageing. Federer is also a much better player than Agassi, so if his body ages aswell as Agassi's its almost too absurd to suggest how many more slams he could win.

Chloe le Bopper
08-25-2007, 08:44 AM
I think he will win 2 more austailians and 2 more Wimbledons. Might sneak a RG if 3-4 players are injured. 16 max!!!
Why on earth does he need 3-4 injured players? Roger has been a Rafa-away from winning RG the past three years :shrug:

FedFan_2007
08-25-2007, 08:45 AM
I think 2008 is TMF's last chance to win RG.

gjalex
08-25-2007, 08:57 AM
I think 2008 is TMF's last chance to win RG.

I have to say thats absurd, he will be 27 at 2009 RG and yet he will have no chance? Everyone seems to be thinking hes older than he is.

The_Nadal_effect
08-25-2007, 09:09 AM
Fed can win 16. Nothing to doubt there, but here on things might not be that easy for very obvious reasons.

JCF is on a roll, no? :yeah:

Kuhne
08-25-2007, 10:02 AM
Even if Federer's game diminishes in the following years, he still only has 2 or 3 players to worry about.. even if Roddick or Blake or Davidenko become sampras like, they will allways be owned by federer mentaly so even if federer is playing badly, whenever he plays those guys (who are candidates to reach finals against him) he will most likely beat them even if they are playing better than him...

so add that to the equation, the fact that he has so many matches won even before they start and he will surely get at least 16 slams.

MatchFederer
08-25-2007, 01:54 PM
I've learned to appreciate the setbacks life can throw at you and that's why I take it one day at a time. So does Fed. He doesn't take anything for granted, he's even talking up the qualifiers.

I still think you are being very cautious... show some fire man!

scoobs
08-25-2007, 02:00 PM
I just don't see a need to put a number on it.

It will likely be more than 14 but beyond that it depends on too many variables.

jcempire
08-25-2007, 02:14 PM
The man just turned 26 and has 11 grand slam titles already.. 16 is surely conservative.

plausibly he could get

1 more this year

2 or 3 next year (turns 27)

2 or 3 the year after (turns 28)

2 or 3 the year after (turns 29)

maybe 2 the year after (turns 30)

Probably at least 2 more in the following years. This is Federer were talking, were not talking about some mere human and he will surely get around 20.

Djoko will stop Roger. He has no chance to win all three GS. Absolute No!!!!!!!!
Not just Djoko, Many Young Guys are out of here, they are growing, playing better and better.

gjalex
08-25-2007, 02:25 PM
Djoko will stop Roger. He has no chance to win all three GS. Absolute No!!!!!!!!
Not just Djoko, Many Young Guys are out of here, they are growing, playing better and better.

Perhaps, but Federer's best is a LOT better than Djokovic's best, and I know that Djokovic is only 20 but I simply doubt he will ever match Federer at his best, so in a way it depends on how much drive Federer maintains IMHO.

FedFan_2007
08-25-2007, 08:16 PM
Federer is playing for history here, but Nadal/Joko are going to attempt to block him. It's pretty epic if you think about it.

Marek.
08-25-2007, 08:41 PM
It's too hard to predict this. I'm going with FedFan's approach and just seeing if he can get #12.

MatchFederer
08-25-2007, 08:46 PM
It's too hard to predict this. I'm going with FedFan's approach and just seeing if he can get #12.

*grins* .. Oh man, come on now! Positively shocking! :eek:

marcRD
08-26-2007, 05:38 PM
He must win 12h first and then stay healthy , one injury here or there and he can end up with 11/12 I do not wish him that to be clear, I am not his fan but I do not wish any harm to anybody and I do not hate people , he was the best player in that 11 GS no matter what all wins very well deserved, anyway winning 16-19 slams and no RG would look even worse than in Sampras case , for me the GOAT will be the player who wins all slams on different surfaces because you have to be totally great with enourmous game to win all 4 and Roger had his chances maybe he will have one more but that's it I don't see him winning it at age of 29-30

Sometimes people say things that doesnt make any sense at all. How is winning 16-19 grand slams+clay master series titles+RG finals against the greatest clay courter of all time (together with Borg) worse than Sampras beeing straight setted and bagelled by Kafelnikov in his only RG semifinal?

Clearly Federer is destined to remove Sampras from the GOAT discussion and probably in the future be competing against Laver for the GOAT status.

Forehander
08-26-2007, 05:44 PM
economically thinking that might be true but i'll use statistics instead. He wants to play till he's 35. So lets say if he wins this years US Open he'll have 12 grand slams with an average of 3 per year since 2004. So from 2008-2017 = 3 x 9... that's another extra 27 grandslams!!!! 12+27 = 39 grandslams!!! O_O Federer will definitely be GOAT by that time!

CyBorg
08-26-2007, 06:15 PM
I don't recall Borg ever saying that Federer would win 16 grand slams. Rod Laver only has 2 grand slams.

What Borg did say is that Roger will win 16 majors or grand slam titles, if you will.

Thank you.

Andre'sNo1Fan
08-26-2007, 06:21 PM
I don't recall Borg ever saying that Federer would win 16 grand slams. Rod Laver only has 2 grand slams.

What Borg did say is that Roger will win 16 majors or grand slam titles, if you will.

Thank you.
Stop being so pedantic.

MatchFederer
08-26-2007, 06:29 PM
I don't recall Borg ever saying that Federer would win 16 grand slams. Rod Laver only has 2 grand slams.

What Borg did say is that Roger will win 16 majors or grand slam titles, if you will.

Thank you.

. . . . :ignore:

CyBorg
08-26-2007, 06:32 PM
Stop being so pedantic.

Pedantic? From now on I will call a tennis racket a tennis ball and a tennis ball a tennis racket.

Roger Federer winds up and hits a tennis racket with his ball, producing a beautiful backhand in the process.

Oh, shoot. Let's not stop here. Let's call a forehand a backhand and the backhand a forehand.

Oh, what a beautiful inside out backhand by Igor Andreev!

CyBorg
08-26-2007, 06:34 PM
Actually, no, no. Forget all that.

From now on I will refer to majors as 'muffins'. Roger Federer has 11 muffins. He is surely on his way to 16 muffins.

Will he ever produce the grand muffin, which is winning four muffins consecutively? We'll just wait and see.

MatchFederer
08-26-2007, 06:58 PM
.. Unbelievable ..


:shrug:

Pathetic...

FedFan_2007
08-26-2007, 08:26 PM
Wow, I think this Federer could win 16 GRAND SLAMS! I just won a grand slam myself, at Denny's.

FedFan_2007
08-26-2007, 08:27 PM
Grand Slam Slugger® BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS

Two buttermilk pancakes, two eggs*, two bacon strips and two sausage links, plus hash browns or grits or choice of bread. Served with a small glass of juice and coffee.

MisterQ
08-26-2007, 08:39 PM
Grand Slam Slugger® BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS

Two buttermilk pancakes, two eggs*, two bacon strips and two sausage links, plus hash browns or grits or choice of bread. Served with a small glass of juice and coffee.

I prefer the classic Moons Over My Hammy.

CyBorg
08-26-2007, 09:47 PM
Wow, I think this Federer could win 16 GRAND SLAMS! I just won a grand slam myself, at Denny's.

And then you lost it when you threw up all over your cat.

Rogiman
08-26-2007, 09:49 PM
Unfortunately Borg the poster overshadows Borg the legend in this thread.

CyBorg
08-26-2007, 09:54 PM
Unfortunately Borg the poster overshadows Borg the legend in this thread.

Ok, fine. I was out of line.

Champions indeed eat at Denny's. They have their harshbrowns and then proceed directly to the practice court. It's good food that does not induce vomit.

Denny's is grrrrreat.

MatchFederer
08-26-2007, 10:20 PM
Did a firecracker go off up your bum or something?

Alex999
08-26-2007, 10:22 PM
Maybe he will, maybe he won't:wavey:

Elleee
08-27-2007, 03:03 PM
16 is 100% certain, there is no way he is not going to make 16. I think 20 is a realistic challenge.

buzz
08-27-2007, 03:39 PM
Every Slam is hard to win, even for Federer. There can always be somebody playing better tennis... We know Federer played the best tennis in 11 slams, but we don't know how good he has to play to be the best again, therefore these predictions are never even close to100% certain. But Borg could be right, personaly I would geuss a little more Slams for JesusFed!

IFoughtThe
08-27-2007, 04:16 PM
20?? I think that's pushing it a bit.

Borg's target is a realistic starting point ...

oz_boz
08-27-2007, 11:26 PM
Björn the Bandwagon jumper :lol:

I think 12 or 13.

He must win 12h first and then stay healthy , one injury here or there and he can end up with 11/12 I do not wish him that to be clear, I am not his fan but I do not wish any harm to anybody and I do not hate people , he was the best player in that 11 GS no matter what all wins very well deserved, anyway winning 16-19 slams and no RG would look even worse than in Sampras case , for me the GOAT will be the player who wins all slams on different surfaces because you have to be totally great with enourmous game to win all 4 and Roger had his chances maybe he will have one more but that's it I don't see him winning it at age of 29-30

You don't make any sense here.

1. How is losing twice in the final in 4 sets against one of the most unrivalled clay courters ever WORSE than losing in straight sets in one lone SF?

2. All 4 is better than not in every case? You cannot be serious. So Agassi above Sampras, despite Pete dominating their era by far and winning almost twice as many slams. Come on.

FedFan_2007
08-28-2007, 12:36 AM
If Nadal def Federer in US Open final, I'm leaving this forum forever.

Mimi
08-28-2007, 03:57 AM
just 16? i think he will win 22 :cool:

abraxas21
06-14-2011, 08:56 PM
this borg knows what he's talking about

ossie
06-14-2011, 09:05 PM
spot on

Mungo
06-14-2011, 09:32 PM
Spot on, Fakerer has won 16.

Pirata.
06-14-2011, 09:50 PM
16 is 100% certain, there is no way he is not going to make 16. I think 20 is a realistic challenge.

:worship:

yesh222
06-14-2011, 11:27 PM
We'll see if this holds up. Even if Fed can't win any more, he definitely will challenge for Slams for the next few years.

mark73
06-17-2011, 04:34 AM
Borg has federer as the slight favourite at wimbledon.
http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=tennis/11/06/15/TENNIS_Wimbledon_Borg.html

Topspindoctor
06-17-2011, 04:53 AM
The man just turned 26 and has 11 grand slam titles already.. 16 is surely conservative.

plausibly he could get

1 more this year

2 or 3 next year (turns 27)

2 or 3 the year after (turns 28)

2 or 3 the year after (turns 29)

maybe 2 the year after (turns 30)

Probably at least 2 more in the following years. This is Federer were talking, were not talking about some mere human and he will surely get around 20.

:spit:

:superlol:

careergrandslam
06-17-2011, 07:12 AM
bort predicted in 2007 that nadal would win wimbledon in 2008.
borg also predicted that nadal would win the USO one day.

this borg is something else i tell ya!

BULLZ1LLA
06-17-2011, 07:26 AM
(Borg predicted Federer would get 16 slams - he did.
Borg predicted Federer would win 2008 Roland Garros - he only won 4 games.
Borg predicted Federer would win 2009 Wimbledon - he did.
Borg predicted Federer would win 2011 Wimbledon - )

MaxPower
06-17-2011, 07:40 AM
Borg I asked like a gazillion times about who will win what and how often. He probably just says something to shut them up. It's cool he has been right many times

tyruk14
06-17-2011, 09:26 AM
As a former GOAT Borg's tennis wisdom is infinitely more important and potent than any run of the mill mug from the MTF; thus his predictions are usually quite sound. He's wrong about 50% of the time, but that's better than World Life, who is right only when Nadal loses and wrong whenever Murray loses.

A_Skywalker
06-17-2011, 09:27 AM
As a former GOAT Borg's tennis wisdom is infinitely more important and potent than any run of the mill mug from the MTF; thus his predictions are usually quite sound. He's wrong about 50% of the time, but that's better than World Life, who is right only when Nadal loses and wrong whenever Murray loses.

So he is always wrong