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silverwhite
07-28-2007, 09:12 AM
1) Montréal
2) Cincinnati
3) US Open
4) Mumbai

What an exciting and full schedule. :o

Ome
07-28-2007, 02:07 PM
What an exciting and full schedule. :o

Montreal is very exciting :scared: :lol:

UDACHi
07-29-2007, 01:21 AM
allez richie. way to play as much as possible. :o

Allure
07-29-2007, 02:15 AM
He doesn't want to overexert himself. :p

jitterbug
07-29-2007, 10:03 AM
Is Richie really playing doubles with Nadal in Cincy? I don't want to make an ass out of myself getting all excited then find out that it's just a rumour.. :o

silverwhite
07-29-2007, 10:34 AM
Yeah, it's true. L'Equipe and Deblicker are pretty reliable sources ;)

my0118
07-29-2007, 11:06 AM
interesting

jitterbug
07-29-2007, 11:11 AM
Yeah, it's true. L'Equipe and Deblicker are pretty reliable sources ;)

:hug: :hatoff: :woohoo:

*Sweet4Richard*
07-29-2007, 03:02 PM
Love to see that doubles match. Shall be an interesting hardcourt season :)

Ginevra83
07-31-2007, 11:35 AM
Hi!!
Will Richard have a Bye on the first round in Montreal?? He is 8th, right??
Thanks:wavey:

Truc
07-31-2007, 03:32 PM
Yes.

tennis lover
07-31-2007, 10:17 PM
:lol: Richard can't bear to be away from home for too long! ;) (understandably!)

Allez Richard! :bounce:

RogiFan88
08-01-2007, 02:02 AM
Can't wait to see Richou in Montreal!! ;)

Allure
08-01-2007, 02:39 AM
Hopefully there will be another Fasquet final. :angel:

RogiFan88
08-02-2007, 01:38 AM
Fasquet?? or Gederer?? :lol:

Allure
08-02-2007, 05:59 AM
Definately Fasquet. Gederer= :tape:

silverwhite
08-02-2007, 06:05 AM
Actually both seem :tape:.

Allure
08-02-2007, 06:17 AM
SW, you always ruin the slash. :awww:

Ginevra83
08-03-2007, 08:15 PM
(1)FEDERER, Roger SUI vs BYE
KARLOVIC, Ivo CRO vs MIRNYI, Max BLR
(WC)POLANSKY, Peter CAN vs QUALIFIER
GINEPRI, Robby USA vs (13)MURRAY, Andy GBR

(9)BLAKE, James USA vs MELZER, Jurgen AUT
HEWITT, Lleyton AUS vs FERRERO, Juan Carlos ESP
HRBATY, Dominik SVK vs KOHLSCHREIBER, Philipp GER
BYE vs (7)ROBREDO, Tommy ESP

(4)DAVYDENKO, Nikolay RUS vs BYE
BENNETEAU, Julien FRA vs NIEMINEN, Jarkko FIN
LEE, Hyung-Taik KOR vs WAWRINKA, Stanislas SUI
QUALIFIER vs (14)YOUZHNY, Mikhail RUS

(12)HAAS, Tommy GER vs CALLERI, Agustin ARG
ALMAGRO, Nicolas ESP vs QUALIFIER
STEPANEK, Radek CZE vs BJORKMAN, Jonas SWE
BYE vs (6)GONZALEZ, Fernando CHI

(5)RODDICK, Andy USA vs BYE
CLEMENT, Arnaud FRA vs (WC)BESTER, Philip CAN
BAGHDATIS, Marcos CYP vs MOYA, Carlos ESP
QUALIFIER vs (10)BERDYCH, Tomas CZE

(16)FERRER, David ESP vs QUALIFIER
NALBANDIAN, David ARG vs QUALIFIER
TURSUNOV, Dmitry RUS vs KIEFER, Nicolas GER
BYE vs (3)DJOKOVIC, Novak SRB

(8)GASQUET, Richard FRA vs BYE
VERDASCO, Fernando ESP vs CHELA, Juan Ignacio ARG
DEL POTRO, Juan Martin ARG vs (WC)DANCEVIC, Frank CAN
QUALIFIER vs (11)LJUBICIC, Ivan CRO

(15)CANAS, Guillermo ARG vs MATHIEU, Paul-Henri FRA
(WC)NIEMEYER, Frederic CAN vs ANCIC, Mario CRO
SODERLING, Robin SWE vs SAFIN, Marat RUS
BYE vs (2)NADAL, Rafael

:wavey:

Allure
08-03-2007, 08:17 PM
Looks like a tough draw for Gasquet. Roddick, Nadal, Soderling, Nalbandian, Canas, Ljubicic, Djokovic, Berdych :help:

*Sweet4Richard*
08-03-2007, 08:18 PM
Kind of a tough draw, but at least he's into the 2nd round :yeah:

No clue how he's going to do, but my fingers are crossed Allez :bounce:

Mariana_lcf
08-03-2007, 08:19 PM
ay safin and nadal in the same part of the draw... not good...

Schu
08-03-2007, 08:25 PM
Looks like a tough draw for Gasquet. Roddick, Nadal, Ancic :help:

Yeah, looks like its bottom heavy. :scratch:

Well time for Richie to show Wimbly was not a fluke! A Gasquet/Nadal quarter(if both make it through) will be fun. Hope he's fired up for this.

Schu
08-03-2007, 08:31 PM
Speaking of fun - how about a Soderling/Nadal second round - some good fireworks there. ALMOST makes me want Soderling to beat Safin

Allez Richard
08-03-2007, 08:36 PM
hey, I have a question!what is going on with the tourney of Toronto?:rolleyes:

Allure
08-03-2007, 08:38 PM
If Nadal is going to make the finals, hopefully Fed will kick his ass :devil:

richie21
08-03-2007, 08:54 PM
Yeah, looks like its bottom heavy. :scratch:

Well time for Richie to show Wimbly was not a fluke! A Gasquet/Nadal quarter(if both make it through) will be fun. Hope he's fired up for this.

yeah i'm really looking forward to FINALLY see a Gasquet-Nadal match on hard court.

Allure
08-03-2007, 09:02 PM
yeah i'm really looking forward to FINALLY see a Gasquet-Nadal match on hard court.

If Gasquet can even make it that far. ;)

richie21
08-03-2007, 09:54 PM
If Gasquet or Nadal can even make it that far. ;)


;)

Allure
08-03-2007, 10:39 PM
Soderling might be a challenge for Nadal but I predict he will make it through. Afterall, he did beat Soderling at Wimbledon (albeit it was a five setter). ;)

my0118
08-04-2007, 12:37 AM
yeah but it was on grass. we never know on hardcourt. ;)
this is the MS, so thought it was not easy. but harder than expected.
however, Nadal has a much tougher draw than Gasquet. :haha:

silverwhite
08-04-2007, 12:48 AM
I don't have a good feeling about this. :shrug:

If he loses in the 2nd round, he will only get 1st round points. :unsure:

Allure
08-04-2007, 12:50 AM
Assuming Richard beats Verdasco, he will probably face Ljubicic who I think he can beat considering their h2h. (Gasquet beat Ljubo at US Open and Monte Carlo) Canas and Ancic will face off while Nadal will battle Soderling. Nadal faces Canas. Two grinders but the better one prevails. So Nadal vs. Gasquet. I think it could go either way. But I'm gonna say Nadal. Andy (beats Clement) will face Berdych (beats Baghdatis)with Roddick winning in three sets. Nalbandian will beat Ferrer and will face Djokovic (who will beat Kiefer). I predict Novak the winner but he will lose to Roddick. Roddick vs. Nadal with Roddick winning this one. That's my prediction of Gasquet's half. :p

my0118
08-04-2007, 01:02 AM
I don't have a good feeling about this. :shrug:

If he loses in the 2nd round, he will only get 1st round points. :unsure:

SW, you always don't have a good feeling :p :lol:
that's your job :lol:

Assuming Richard beats Verdasco, he will probably face Ljubicic who I think he can beat considering their h2h. (Gasquet beat Ljubo at US Open and Monte Carlo) Canas and Ancic will face off while Nadal will battle Soderling. Nadal faces Canas. Two grinders but the better one prevails. So Nadal vs. Gasquet. I think it could go either way. But I'm gonna say Nadal. Andy (beats Clement) will face Berdych (beats Baghdatis)with Roddick winning in three sets. Nalbandian will beat Ferrer and will face Djokovic (who will beat Kiefer). I predict Novak the winner but he will lose to Roddick. Roddick vs. Nadal with Roddick winning this one. That's my prediction of Gasquet's half. :p

well I don't think Nalby will beat Ferrer, but hope he will. Nalby has potential that he can lose to anybody. it' will be interesting if Roddick and Djoko face each other.
and gasquet's quarter is not easy but I don't think reaching quarters is unrealistic. but he has to pull himself together. :o

Allure
08-04-2007, 01:05 AM
So if Gasquet doesn't make it to the finals he'll lose points? :help:

Ome
08-04-2007, 01:44 AM
I don't have a good feeling about this. :shrug:

If he loses in the 2nd round, he will only get 1st round points. :unsure:

:scared:

The draw could be much worse, though :shrug:
Just get as close as you can to the final, Richard :o

RINKY
08-04-2007, 05:21 AM
a quarter-final is a realistic target:)
and i think it is hard to anticipate other parts in this bottom half
so we should not look that far at this moment

linus
08-04-2007, 02:19 PM
always ... :aplot:

Allez Richie, do your best :angel:

Suzi
08-04-2007, 02:52 PM
allez richard do your best :)

*Sweet4Richard*
08-05-2007, 01:58 AM
(1) Bryan/Bryan - BYE
Almagro/Ferrer vs. Allegro/Federer
Nieminen/Perry vs. Clement/Gasquet
(7) Aspelin/Knowle - BYE

(4) Damm/Paes - BYE
Benneateau/Llodra vs. (WC) Dancevic/Niemeyer
Gonzalez/Ljubicic vs. Blake/Murray J
(8) Bhuapthi/Vizner - BYE

(5) Hanley/Ullyett - BYE
Djokovic/Zimonjic vs. Fyrstenberg/Matkowski
Berdych/Kiefer vs. Canas/Garcia
(3) Knowles/Nestor - BYE

(6) Erlich/Ram - BYE
(WC) Bester/Duclos vs. Hewitt/Nadal
Hrbaty/Mathieu vs. Tursunov/Wassen
(2) Bjorkman/Mirnyi - BYE

:wavey:

Allure
08-05-2007, 02:08 AM
Idiot Gasquet playing doubles. Way to waste energy. Then he'll lose and blame it on ''fatigue.'' :rolleyes:

silverwhite
08-05-2007, 02:16 AM
Tough draw for them.

Allure
08-05-2007, 02:42 AM
What's the point? The Bryan brothers will win. Funny, we have an American dominating something and it's doubles. :rolleyes:

silverwhite
08-05-2007, 02:47 AM
Erm, to get match practice? His hardcourt schedule isn't exactly very full.

And what's wrong with doubles? :shrug:

Allure
08-05-2007, 02:54 AM
Check the tournaments where he played doubles and compare the results of his doubles and singles match. ;)

my0118
08-05-2007, 02:59 AM
well apparently I'm more interested in Nadal's doubles.
in Montreal with Hewitt and in Cincy with Gasquet :haha:

Allure
08-05-2007, 03:07 AM
I thought they were joking when I read some poster said Nadal is playing with Hewitt. I guess it makes sense though. They have the same fiery on court persona and grinding game. I can imagine Hewitt screaming "C'mon'' while Nadal shouts ''Vamos.'' :p

silverwhite
08-05-2007, 03:22 AM
Check the tournaments where he played doubles and compare the results of his doubles and singles match. ;)

As far as I know, playing doubles has only hurt him once - this year in Monte-Carlo.

Actually, when I asked what was wrong with doubles, I was referring to the Bryans dominating doubles. :)

Allure
08-05-2007, 03:29 AM
Nothing. Actually I don't care much for them. It would be nice to have talented singles players though. And yes I know there is Roddick. ;)

Puschkin
08-05-2007, 01:59 PM
The draw could be much worse, though :shrug:

It could be much worse.

Just get as close as you can to the final, Richard :o

not as close as, but into! :) :wavey:

Allure
08-05-2007, 05:30 PM
It could be much worse.



not as close as, but into! :) :wavey:

You really think Gasquet can beat Ljubicic, Nadal, and Roddick? :unsure:

Schu
08-05-2007, 05:59 PM
You really think Gasquet can beat Ljubicic, Nadal, and Roddick? :unsure:

One can hope can't they? And as one of the British announcers said during the Gasquet-Roddick match - When Gasquet gets on a hot streak, he is as good as anyone in the world, including Federer. And as long as we are wishful thinking, it would be nice if Richie got on a long hot streak in the U.S. Open.

Some interesting doubles combos in Montreal. Nadal/Hewitt, Blake/J. Murray, Llorda/Benneateau, and Gasquet/Clement. Don't really think we have to worry about fatigue from doubles -- with their draw they will be lucky if they win more than one match.

Allure
08-05-2007, 06:17 PM
One can hope can't they? And as one of the British announcers said during the Gasquet-Roddick match - When Gasquet gets on a hot streak, he is as good as anyone in the world, including Federer. And as long as we are wishful thinking, it would be nice if Richie got on a long hot streak in the U.S. Open.

Some interesting doubles combos in Montreal. Nadal/Hewitt, Blake/J. Murray, Llorda/Benneateau, and Gasquet/Clement. Don't really think we have to worry about fatigue from doubles -- with their draw they will be lucky if they win more than one match.

Please, don't get me excited. :lol:

my0118
08-05-2007, 11:35 PM
COURT 9 - 11:00

Hyung-Taik LEE (KOR) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI)

followed by

Nicolas ALMAGRO (ESP) vs Michael RUSSELL (USA)

Not Before 16:00

Jarkko NIEMINEN (FIN)/Todd PERRY (AUS) vs Arnaud CLEMENT (FRA)/Richard GASQUET (FRA)

But not televised. :o

Allure
08-05-2007, 11:46 PM
Not surprised. They barely show Gasquet playing singles let alone doubles. :lol:

Puschkin
08-06-2007, 04:53 AM
You really think Gasquet can beat Ljubicic, Nadal, and Roddick? :unsure:

yes! Besides, they can lose earlier - and the draw might turn out very differently, that's the good thing about tennis - it is full of surprises. :p

Allure
08-06-2007, 05:10 AM
yes! Besides, they can lose earlier - and the draw might turn out very differently, that's the good thing about tennis - it is full of surprises. :p

I hope you're right. :shrug:

Alyz
08-06-2007, 06:44 AM
Not Before 16:00

Jarkko NIEMINEN (FIN)/Todd PERRY (AUS) vs Arnaud CLEMENT (FRA)/Richard GASQUET (FRA)



What a shame that they play against each other in the first round already. I don't want either team to lose. I hope Nieminen/Perry win this one but if they don't, I can then be happy for Clement/Gasquet :angel:

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 06:52 AM
They put him on Court 9 because it's just doubles. Montréal favours the French players for obvious reasons so his singles match should be on one of the main courts.

Allure
08-06-2007, 07:00 AM
They put him on Court 9 because it's just doubles. Montréal favours the French players for obvious reasons so his singles match should be on one of the main courts.

That would be great so his matches will be televised. I hope they just don't show the three main ones: Federer, Nadal, and Roddick. :rolleyes:

my0118
08-06-2007, 07:04 AM
there are three streams on ATPtv site. so I think his match will be televised even if he's not playing on the center court.
but I'm not sure on TV. guess it depends on which country you live.

*julie*
08-06-2007, 04:20 PM
Good luck Richard. I hope he will do better than last year. :D

Richa®d^Fan
08-06-2007, 04:47 PM
^^ Ahm, I think so too.I hope that he'll try to do smth more this year.That maybe means title?? :D Of course , that means more points for the final masters tournament and place in Top-Ten group :P
So good luck,Richard! :) ;) :worship:

Puschkin
08-06-2007, 05:06 PM
Good luck Richard. I hope he will do better than last year. :D

kind of greedy, but I like it.

Schu
08-06-2007, 05:33 PM
Good luck Richard. I hope he will do better than last year. :D

Like that attitude.:yeah: Hope RIchard is thinking the same way.

Well, first upset of the Montreal Masters - Hasse def. Berdych (means Berydch will not move ahead of Richard for a while as he was a quarterfinalist here last years - he lost some points on this one).

Actually I'm glad RIchard is playing doubles - will give him a chance to get into the match play mode and get used to playing on the courts before his first singles match.

tennis lover
08-06-2007, 10:28 PM
They won the doubles 4-6 6-3 10-6! :yeah: Hopefully this will help him get back in the swing of things for his singles. :dance:

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Well, first upset of the Montreal Masters - Hasse def. Berdych (means Berydch will not move ahead of Richard for a while as he was a quarterfinalist here last years - he lost some points on this one).

This will help Richard's chances of staying in the top 10 :devil:

Berdych is still ahead in the projected rankings though. Richard will have to win a few matches to pass him. ;)

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Nice win in doubles :D

tennis lover
08-06-2007, 10:36 PM
This will help Richard's chances of staying in the top 10 :devil:
but Richard has plenty of points of his own to defend! :scared:

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 10:37 PM
but Richard has plenty of points of his own to defend! :scared:

Yes. I edited my post to add that he's still behind Berdy in the projected rankings. :p

Mariana_lcf
08-06-2007, 10:38 PM
im sorry, im still kinda new... so who is alex? vote him for what?:unsure:

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 10:41 PM
im sorry, im still kinda new... so who is alex? vote him for what?:unsure:

Bubba08, a fellow Gasquetaire and the only one taking part in Mr MTF. ;)

You can vote for him here: :p
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=107443

richie21
08-06-2007, 10:42 PM
Good luck Richard. I hope he will do better than last year. :D

i think it's now time for him to begin to win some big titles.
He needs to win a Master Serie as soon as possible......he's 21 now and time goes by fast....

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 10:43 PM
i think it's now time for him to begin to win some big titles.
He needs to win a Master Serie as soon as possible......he's 21 now and time goes by fast....

Show some solidarity for once and vote for Bubba08. :p

tennis lover
08-06-2007, 10:45 PM
Yes. I edited my post to add that he's still behind Berdy in the projected rankings. :p
ah, I see! I thought it was a far too positive post for you, SW! ;)

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 10:47 PM
ah, I see! I thought it was a far too positive post for you, SW! ;)

I'm in a good mood because I just found out that Hasse won. I was cheering for him yesterday but had to go to sleep after the first set. :devil:

Mariana_lcf
08-06-2007, 10:54 PM
hehe ok i already voted for the alex guy, he's second right now. oh and im happy gasquet won on doubles, anybody knows when he'll play singles? tomorrow? what time?

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 10:57 PM
:yeah:

He'll probably play on Wednesday.

tennis lover
08-06-2007, 11:02 PM
I'm in a good mood because I just found out that Hasse won. I was cheering for him yesterday but had to go to sleep after the first set. :devil:
ahh, that explains all the :devil:s! :lol:

Richard isn't shown on the OOP on the atp website for tomorrow so I guess he will start Wednesday. :shrug:

richie21
08-06-2007, 11:02 PM
Show some solidarity for once and vote for Bubba08. :p


where do you vote??? and for why?? :confused:

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 11:03 PM
where do you vote??? and for why?? :confused:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=107443

Because he's the only Gasquetaire in the contest and most of us are supporting him. :shrug:

silverwhite
08-06-2007, 11:04 PM
OK, I see that you've already voted. :lol: :yeah:

richie21
08-06-2007, 11:34 PM
OK, I see that you've already voted. :lol: :yeah:

well i did it just after having asked you ;)

JBdV
08-06-2007, 11:46 PM
well i did it just after having asked you ;)

Why aren't you in the competition? :confused: :p

my0118
08-07-2007, 01:53 AM
okay ljubo is also out so the mission of getting back in the top 10 looks better :cool:

Schu
08-07-2007, 02:37 AM
okay ljubo is also out so the mission of getting back in the top 10 looks better :cool:

Richard has to do his part and win as many matches here and in Cincy as he can. But he can do it. Just fire up like in Wimbly.

Schu
08-07-2007, 02:44 AM
hehe ok i already voted for the alex guy, he's second right now. oh and im happy gasquet won on doubles, anybody knows when he'll play singles? tomorrow? what time?

It will have to be Wednesday since Chela-Verdasco haven't played yet.

silverwhite
08-07-2007, 08:29 AM
OK, things are going well. Berdy and Ljubo out so he'll have an easier time passing them. Ljubo's loss also mean that should he beat Verdasco/Chela, he'll have an easier 3R opponent. He'd better not screw this up. :armed: :armed:

tennis lover
08-07-2007, 11:04 AM
Allez Richard! :bounce: everyone else is doing their best to help him, I hope he doesn't let them (and us!) down. :unsure:

Puschkin
08-07-2007, 01:07 PM
OK, things are going well. Berdy and Ljubo out so he'll have an easier time passing them. Ljubo's loss also mean that should he beat Verdasco/Chela, he'll have an easier 3R opponent. He'd better not screw this up. :armed: :armed:

An inspired Dancevic in front of his homecrowd is more dangerous than Ljubicic recently, but first things first: Verdasco/Chela tomorrow, I hope it will be on atp masters TV.

silverwhite
08-07-2007, 03:17 PM
Yes, I'm really concerned about Chela/Verdasco. This match is worth two matches in points. :o

*Sweet4Richard*
08-07-2007, 07:53 PM
:yeah: for the doubles win

Mariana_lcf
08-07-2007, 08:35 PM
i hope chela and verdasco battle it out in 3 sets so that tomorrow the one who wins will be tired:) hahaha

Allure
08-07-2007, 09:03 PM
i hope chela and verdasco battle it out in 3 sets so that tomorrow the one who wins will be tired:) hahaha

Evil but yeah that would be nice :angel:

tennis lover
08-07-2007, 09:05 PM
well they're in the third set now so your wish has been granted! ;)

my0118
08-07-2007, 09:07 PM
I hope Chela wins. I think Chela could be more.. you know.. hehe.

Mariana_lcf
08-07-2007, 09:09 PM
haha yea! third set... i really dont know who i want to win... maybe chela

Schu
08-07-2007, 09:53 PM
Verdasco in 3 but not a really a long enough match to wear him out.

Seeds are dropping like flies - Gonzo out now too. Hope Richie does not join the ranks of the upsets. Verdasco has given him trouble but I know he can win if he just plays aggressive, smart and confident - but that's a big IF.

JBdV
08-07-2007, 10:38 PM
Get your first pigeon tomorrow Richard :yeah:

my0118
08-07-2007, 10:45 PM
Wed OOP

it will be televised :cool:

Central

11am
Gasquet v Verdasco

not before 1pm
Roddick v Clement

Safin v Nadal

not before 7:30pm
Federer v Karlovic

Benneteau/Llodra v Dancevic/Niemeyer

Allure
08-07-2007, 10:50 PM
I have to wake up early to watch the Gasquet match. Hope he doesn't disappoint me. :o

Mariana_lcf
08-07-2007, 10:51 PM
hahaha oh he's the first, i really hope espn will air this match or else...:(

Allure
08-07-2007, 11:00 PM
hahaha oh he's the first, i really hope espn will air this match or else...:(

Download TVU player and watch it on CCTV5. :p

Mariana_lcf
08-07-2007, 11:55 PM
oh i did that once, but the image is bad, at least for me, and i cant even see the ball hahah

Allure
08-08-2007, 12:00 AM
Yeah not the best quality but it's better than no coverage. I have to watch Richard via livestream tomorrow because ESPN doesn't start coverage until 1 P.M. EST. :ras:

Mariana_lcf
08-08-2007, 12:04 AM
oh damn ur right, here it starts at 12... i guess i will have to watch richie in a crappy image hehe

Allure
08-08-2007, 12:08 AM
But Richie doesn't play his best tennis until the later rounds. So you won't miss much. :p

Schu
08-08-2007, 04:26 AM
I'm surprised at this time - Verdasco finished rather late and they put him back on before anyone else who either didn't play today or finished earlier.

And I'm REALLY bumbed at this time!! I am supposed to interview an applicant for a new position I am hiring in my office at the exact time his match starts - this is going to be the fastest job interview in history. Maybe I can catch the second set on Masters Series TV from my office which gets a pretty good image on my computer.

Just hope Richard doesn't join the parade of seeds that have already lost. ALLEZ!!!

Allure
08-08-2007, 04:33 AM
Maybe somebody can upload the match for you. :p

silverwhite
08-08-2007, 05:10 AM
Get your first pigeon tomorrow Richard :yeah:

:eek: at the possibility that Hrbaty might not be his first pigeon. :lol:

simpletennis
08-08-2007, 06:36 AM
yes!! montreal, finally some gasquet action.
ALLEZ RICHARD!

Jirku
08-08-2007, 09:59 AM
they show the match on tv here :) win in 2 :yeah:

linus
08-08-2007, 02:14 PM
Yes.. in 2 :p

Allez :angel:

Mariana_lcf
08-08-2007, 02:59 PM
oh i hope he wins, too bad i cant watch it, well if it is a good match i'll download it later from someone:)

Allez Richard
08-08-2007, 03:53 PM
OMG, he is sooooo beautifuuuuuul!!!!!even with that stupid blue t-shirt :drool:
and such a great game!!!6:3 in 35 minutes is not bad at all!
Allez Richie!!!:worship:

Allez Richard
08-08-2007, 04:54 PM
what's going on maaaaan????:eek: I just can't believe that he lost the second set...
GO RICHIEEEE

Allure
08-08-2007, 04:56 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Marek.
08-08-2007, 04:57 PM
I just woke up. How many MP's did Richard have and how many were on serve?

Schu
08-08-2007, 04:58 PM
OMG, he is sooooo beautifuuuuuul!!!!!even with that stupid blue t-shirt :drool:
and such a great game!!!6:3 in 35 minutes is not bad at all!
Allez Richie!!!:worship:

LOVE the blue shirt!

Wish I could say the same about his tennis right now. I missed the first set but nothing great from him in the second. And then the second set tiebreak :banghead: he played the most tentative match point, then a double fault and the rest is history... the old Richie.

I'm not seeing any of the fire from Wimbledon. Of course I didn't expect him to play like the Roddick match but what I saw of the second set was :sad: :sad: He stepped it up a few times when down break point but pretty flat the rest of the time.

ALLEZ RICHARD - GET FIRED UP!

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:00 PM
just 2 but not like big chances

Marek.
08-08-2007, 05:04 PM
I just started watching it but with Verdasco, as big a headcase as he is, he usually plays very well when he's match point down. So Richard can't expect him to make errors and give him the match.

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:06 PM
yeah tell me about it. it was his fault having been passive.
just hope now verdasco choking starts.

eck
08-08-2007, 05:06 PM
This match should have been over and done with way earlier before the TB.
I thought he would be able to avoid the Bartoli effect, guess not.

Schu
08-08-2007, 05:07 PM
Richie just got broken 1-2. He looks sluggish and is shaking his head - not looking good at all. COME ONNNN (Have to pull out by English cheer now)

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 05:07 PM
I just started watching it but with Verdasco, as big a headcase as he is, he usually plays very well when he's match point down. So Richard can't expect him to make errors and give him the match.

He did not in the second set, though, Allez, Richard!

eck
08-08-2007, 05:10 PM
FS 1-3 15-15.
Volley lets him down.

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:10 PM
he starts to return poorly.
he should know it's just one break but he acts like the match will be over soon.

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:12 PM
struggled but held. now break back richard.

Schu
08-08-2007, 05:14 PM
Maybe he'll pull a Mathieu... but not looking like he has any energy to do that. I still BELIEVE.

Marek.
08-08-2007, 05:14 PM
Love 30, here it comes.

eck
08-08-2007, 05:15 PM
a. He's standing beyond the Montreal sign.
b. He's running around like a dog, tiring easily.
c. He's up 30-0 on Verdasco's serve but I doubt he can do something about it.

eck
08-08-2007, 05:16 PM
30-30.
It's been the story of the match
Had Verdasco on the ropes, and just loses it.
40-30.

Marek.
08-08-2007, 05:17 PM
Love 30, here it comes.

:o

eck
08-08-2007, 05:17 PM
Verdasco holds.
Richie's a bigger headcase than Verdasco :o

eck
08-08-2007, 05:18 PM
He's sending shots back to Verdasco's forehand :o

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:19 PM
how even well-known headcase Verdasco held from 0-30?

eck
08-08-2007, 05:20 PM
He holds.

eck
08-08-2007, 05:21 PM
how even well-known headcase Verdasco held from 0-30?

Because at 0-30, Verdasco serves to Richard's body, or Richard sends it back to Verdasco's FH.

It's not as if this is the first time we had 0-30 :p



Also, it takes a bigger headcase to trounce another.

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:21 PM
seems he's finding his brain.
he'd better break here now!!!!!!

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:22 PM
Because at 0-30, Verdasco serves to Richard's body, or Richard sends it back to Verdasco's FH.

It's not as if this is the first time we had 0-30 :p

hey eck, I'm watching :p just *sigh* comment.

Schu
08-08-2007, 05:22 PM
a. He's standing beyond the Montreal sign.
b. He's running around like a dog, tiring easily.
c. He's up 30-0 on Verdasco's serve but I doubt he can do something about it.

I've been wondering why he is playing 3 miles behind the baseline! He has to run twice as far as his opponent.

Let Verdasco off the hook at 0-30 but looked like he was trying to be more aggressive on his service game.

eck
08-08-2007, 05:22 PM
Verdasco 30-0

eck
08-08-2007, 05:23 PM
hey eck, I'm watching :p just *sigh* comment.

:o
I don't even know why I woke up this early for this.

Marek.
08-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Verdasco is just asking to be broken here.

eck
08-08-2007, 05:24 PM
I've been wondering why he is playing 3 miles behind the baseline! He has to run twice as far as his opponent.

Let Verdasco off the hook at 0-30 but looked like he was trying to be more aggressive on his service game.

When he's feeling food it's in front of the baseline
When he's feeling bad it's WAY behind.

30-40
Will he capitalise :o

eck
08-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Deuce :o

eck
08-08-2007, 05:25 PM
Another BP :o

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:25 PM
good brainfart from Verdasco is coming

eck
08-08-2007, 05:25 PM
Deuce............................................. ....

eck
08-08-2007, 05:26 PM
Gp.

eck
08-08-2007, 05:26 PM
Verdasco holds >_>

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:27 PM
too passive you Richard!!!

eck
08-08-2007, 05:27 PM
Bye bye top 10

Schu
08-08-2007, 05:28 PM
How about that racket throw - yea Richie you should have broken it. Verdasco was giving you the game but you couldn't take it!!!

eck
08-08-2007, 05:28 PM
30-0 :o

eck
08-08-2007, 05:28 PM
40-0 :eek:

my0118
08-08-2007, 05:29 PM
funny :lol: he is starting to aggressive.
you should've done early!!!

eck
08-08-2007, 05:29 PM
Holds to love :speakles:
Now. The hard part.

Alyz
08-08-2007, 05:29 PM
I went offline after Gasquet had won the first set and now he's suddenly a break down in the third :o

eck
08-08-2007, 05:31 PM
0-15 :lol:

Allez Richard
08-08-2007, 05:31 PM
I can't believe what's going on!I'm just speachless...why didn't you play like the last game before, Richard?????:rolleyes:

eck
08-08-2007, 05:32 PM
15-15 :o

eck
08-08-2007, 05:32 PM
15-30
The clouds are :retard:

eck
08-08-2007, 05:33 PM
30-30..

eck
08-08-2007, 05:33 PM
Backhand failing him

eck
08-08-2007, 05:34 PM
Oh, so he brings out something like this now :o

eck
08-08-2007, 05:35 PM
Sigh

eck
08-08-2007, 05:36 PM
rest up for cincy...

Marek.
08-08-2007, 05:37 PM
:sad:

linus
08-08-2007, 05:38 PM
sunk :sobbing:

Richie Richie :hug:

Alyz
08-08-2007, 05:39 PM
Richard :o I can't believe he lost. :sad:

Schu
08-08-2007, 05:42 PM
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Top 10 was nice while it lasted.

Oh well, nice blue shirt....

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 05:47 PM
14 points more than Verdasco and lost, :sad: :sad: but I had had bad feelings before. My feelings are much better for the US Open, though.

liptea
08-08-2007, 05:49 PM
how does someone say 'wtf' in french?

Allure
08-08-2007, 05:53 PM
While I am disappointed, just imagine how Richie feels. He's probably devastated since it's a MS and he couldn't defend his finalist pts. And now he's out of the top 10. I think he will do better in Cincy and US Open though. :sad:

Schu
08-08-2007, 06:10 PM
how does someone say 'wtf' in french?

My thoughts exactly...

If I am so disappointed, I can't imagine how he devastated he feels. After such a high in Wimbledon to this. I kept waiting to see the fire in him but it never happened today, just head shaking, talking to himself (probably "wtf" in french) and a well placed racket throw.

Well this will make his awesome run at the U.S. Open all the more enjoyable (I'm working on the positive vibes theory, here). Bad Halle and Nottingham - good Wimbledon. Hope he stays in the top 16 at least for U.S.Open seeding,

We still love ya Richie :hug: When you get your head screwed on straight for more than a match or two, how awesome you will be.

eck
08-08-2007, 06:14 PM
The problem is that, even if he does reach USO SF or beyond, can he maintain it the next year?
I'd rather he be more consistant

Schu
08-08-2007, 06:17 PM
The problem is that, even if he does reach USO SF or beyond, can he maintain it the next year?
I'd rather he be more consistant

So would I but that might be asking too much from him. We take what we can get. It is the rollar coaster ride we Gasquet fans travel.

Vialator
08-08-2007, 06:26 PM
Hehe, many new people here since Wimbledon. Well you will quickly know how Richard is playing the others 50 weeks of the year, particularly under pressure (when he has many points to defend or when he play at home).
Enjoys :p

Allure
08-08-2007, 06:30 PM
So would I but that might be asking too much from him. We take what we can get. It is the rollar coaster ride we Gasquet fans travel.

Now I know how Safin fans feel. We have to be there for Gasquet through the ups and downs. (Though there seem to be more downs than ups) Whatever happens, we have to stick by Richard forever even when he's 27, ranked #50 and barely passing the first round. :p

my0118
08-08-2007, 06:32 PM
Now I know how Safin fans feel. We have to be there for Gasquet through the ups and downs. (Though there seem to be more downs than ups) Whatever happens, we have to stick by Richard forever even when he's 27, ranked #50 and barely passing the first round. :p

:lol: I exactly thought the same thing :o

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 06:33 PM
Now I know how Safin fans feel.

I am one.

We have to be there for Gasquet through the ups and downs. (Though there seem to be more downs than ups) Whatever happens, we have to stick by Richard forever even when he's 27, ranked #50 and barely passing the first round. :p

While this is true, there will be better times again soon. Even I - the eternal optimist- was cautious for Canada. Richard will bounce back, you'll see.

Suzi
08-08-2007, 06:48 PM
:sad: it is sad that he lost but i have to agree we have to all stick by him through the DOwns and ups. sooooooo Richie :hug:

Allure
08-08-2007, 06:51 PM
I am one.



While this is true, there will be better times again soon. Even I - the eternal optimist- was cautious for Canada. Richard will bounce back, you'll see.

I kind of had a bad feeling for Montreal, too. I knew he wouldn't repeat his performance of last year. But I really think Cincy will be better. If he loses the first round again, I'll fly over there myself and give him a good slap on the head. :smash:

Mia, I think you're right. He needs a Mirka. ;)

silverwhite
08-08-2007, 07:12 PM
question: do players go ahead and plan plane tickets in advance? or is he just going to get a flight to cincy right now?

wtf.

He's still in doubles...

*julie*
08-08-2007, 07:12 PM
Good luck Richard. I hope he will do better than last year. :D

Sorry people. I jinxed him. :o

Allure
08-08-2007, 07:16 PM
Sorry people. I jinxed him. :o

I think I jinxed him. Whenever I watch his match on livestream he loses. (Monte Carlo, Estoril, etc) Sorry Gasquetaires. :o

my0118
08-08-2007, 07:39 PM
I think I jinxed him. Whenever I watch his match on livestream he loses. (Monte Carlo, Estoril, etc) Sorry Gasquetaires. :o

:someday he will break, Brittany. feel free to watch anytime. :lol:

Truc
08-08-2007, 08:08 PM
:topic:how does someone say 'wtf' in french?I would say "C'est quoi ce bordel?" (CQCB), "C'est quoi cette merde?" (CQCM)...
:shrug:

richie21
08-08-2007, 08:08 PM
Now I know how Safin fans feel. We have to be there for Gasquet through the ups and downs. (Though there seem to be more downs than ups) Whatever happens, we have to stick by Richard forever even when he's 27, ranked #50 and barely passing the first round. :p


In risk of being cruel,i frankly don t feel sorry for them.
I mean,their favourite player has already won 2 Grand Slams and many Master Series.......i would be in total joy if Richard had the same career as Safin even if it meant to have inconsistent results like Safin.

*julie*
08-08-2007, 08:13 PM
In risk of being cruel,i frankly don t feel sorry for them.
I mean,their favourite player has already won 2 Grand Slams and many Master Series.......i would be in total joy if Richard had the same career as Safin even if it meant to have inconsistent results like Safin.

:eek: We agree on something.
The only difference is I think he can do it. :p

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 08:16 PM
....i would be in total joy if Richard had the same career as Safin even if it meant to have inconsistent results like Safin.

On this I totally agree with you. Marat is not a joke for his achievements, even if some paople say so. Add the DC twice, France would be on its knees in front of Richard if he won them another DC.

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 08:16 PM
:eek: We agree on something.
The only difference is I think he can do it. :p

Great minds think alike. :wavey:

richie21
08-08-2007, 08:31 PM
:eek: We agree on something.
The only difference is I think he can do it. :p

i also think he can do it.......but i'm less convinced than i was,let's say, 9 months ago.....:o

tennis lover
08-08-2007, 09:09 PM
Now I know how Safin fans feel.
Try being a fan of both! :sobbing:
He's still in doubles...
:yeah:
I think I jinxed him. Whenever I watch his match on livestream he loses. (Monte Carlo, Estoril, etc) Sorry Gasquetaires. :o
:sobbing: I always used to think this was the case for me, however now I think it only works that way for Andy! :awww: Funnily enough, in this match I left after he had won the first set and he lost and at Wimbledon I came home when he was 2 sets and a break down and he won. :rolleyes:

Mariana_lcf
08-08-2007, 09:21 PM
well cincinnatti will be better... hopefully... damn it sux! i really thought that after wimbly he was gonna get better results, boy was i wrong!

Schu
08-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Now I know how Safin fans feel. :p

Try being a Gasquet, Safin AND Nalbandian fan. I think that's the definition of a masochist.

Allure
08-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Try being a Gasquet, Safin AND Nalbandian fan. I think that's the definition of a masochist.

Maybe we should only root for Federer and Nadal. They never disappoint. :sobbing:

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 10:36 PM
Maybe we should only root for Federer and Nadal. They never disappoint. :sobbing:
very rarely, but Roger losing to Nadal two French Open titles (and at least one possible GS) is not that easy to bear either. ;)

Allure
08-08-2007, 10:40 PM
Yes but he wins everything else. I mean 11 GS titles. Even without the French Open, you guys can be happy with what he has achieved so far (and will continue to achieve). Richie doesn't even have 1 MS. :mad:

BTW, I think that Gasquet doesn't perform well with pressure. Like last year he came back from injury; no one was really talking about him and he had no pressure to do well. Therefore he made the finals. But this time, he's a top 10 player having just beaten Roddick, so people expect more from him and he feels pressured to perform like last year so I think that contributed to his loss. During Wimbledon this year, no one really spoke of him so he didn't have that pressure which helped his game a bit. When people expect things from Gasquet, I think it has a negative effect on him.

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 10:52 PM
Yes but he wins everything else. I mean 11 GS titles. Even without the French Open, you guys can be happy with what he has achieved so far (and will continue to achieve). Richie doesn't even have 1 MS. :mad:

Human nature is greedy. ;) and some defeats hurt more than others.

BTW, I think that Gasquet doesn't perform well with pressure. ....... When people expect things from Gasquet, I think it has a negative effect on him.

it seems so and was best shown at Roland Garros. That's why I feel good about the US Open, all attention on Roger, Nadal and Roddick, the Wiliams sisters ans Sharapowa, while Richard can silently move through the rounds. :)

Allure
08-08-2007, 10:56 PM
Human nature is greedy. ;) and some defeats hurt more than others.



it seems so and was best shown at Roland Garros. That's why I feel good about the US Open, all attention on Roger, Nadal and Roddick, the Wiliams sisters ans Sharapowa, while Richard can silently move through the rounds. :)

Wow, I didn't know people expected Richard to do well at RG. I thought that only two people were important: Nadal and Federer. :confused:

tennis lover
08-08-2007, 11:06 PM
but RG is his home tournament. I'm sure in France they like to hype up their players the same as other countries do. :shrug: Plus, Richard is very patriotic (which is why he is so passionate about DC) so I think he puts pressure on himself to do well in front of his home crowd. :awww:

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 11:12 PM
Wow, I didn't know people expected Richard to do well at RG. I thought that only two people were important: Nadal and Federer. :confused:
You seem to forget that there is a French press and a French crowd and that Richard has been announced as the one saving French tennis for ages.

Allure
08-08-2007, 11:16 PM
You seem to forget that there is a French press and a French crowd and that Richard has been announced as the one saving French tennis for ages.

Yes I know that Richard is the great hope for France but I don't think that RG was ever expected of him. I think people are more concern about Nadal doing well there and for Fed to actually win a title there. I feel Richie is more expected to do well at Wimbledon. For the last couple of years I have never heard any media hype for Richard at the French Open. I could be wrong though. :shrug:

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 11:23 PM
Yes I know that Richard is the great hope for France but I don't think that RG was ever expected of him. I think people are more concern about Nadal doing well there and for Fed to actually win a title there. I feel Richie is more expected to do well at Wimbledon. For the last couple of years I have never heard any media hype for Richard at the French Open. I could be wrong though. :shrug:

The ordinary Frenchman or woman wants a Frenchman to win, and the press reacts accordingly, even if the Roland Garros-crowd is very Roger-friendly.

tennis lover
08-08-2007, 11:31 PM
It's the same with Murray at Wimbledon- I don't think anyone really thinks he's actually going to win it just yet but the whole country is supporting him and counting on him and there is a lot of pressure on him. :shrug:

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 11:36 PM
It's the same with Murray at Wimbledon- I don't think anyone really thinks he's actually going to win it just yet but the whole country is supporting him and counting on him and there is a lot of pressure on him. :shrug:
I totally agree, this is the same situation for Murray, it is easier for the Federers and Djokovics of this world, they don't have to carry the expectiations of their home-country on their shoulders in a GS.

Allure
08-08-2007, 11:43 PM
Well Nadal can't win forever and Federer is getting older so Richard could win it in two years. ( I really hope though I don't care much for RG) :p

tennis lover
08-08-2007, 11:44 PM
and I think the main factor for Richard is the pressure he puts on himself! :p

Yes, I agree Puschkin, it is harder when you have a home GS I think. :)

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 11:45 PM
Well Nadal can't win forever and Federer is getting older so Richard could win it in two years. ( I really hope though I don't care much for RG) :p

That would be great, even if I think he is better chances at all other three. :)

:topic: Marat/Nadal is on. I have to watch. I have been waiting for this encounter for three years.

Allure
08-08-2007, 11:48 PM
You really think he has a better chance on a hardcourt than clay?

I'm watching the Safin/Nadal match and surprisingly Safin is playing a good match so far. Some nice winners. Hopefully he can keep it up. It would be nice to have a pig roasting after the Richard loss.

Puschkin
08-08-2007, 11:54 PM
You really think he has a better chance on a hardcourt than clay?
I come more and more to the conclusion that the surface does not really matter to Richard. When he is on, he is on....So yeah, why not on hardcourt?


I'm watching the Safin/Nadal match and surprisingly Safin is playing a good match so far.

You jinxed him, badly.

Allure
08-08-2007, 11:58 PM
If surface does not matter for Richard why do you think he has a better chance at the other three?

Puschkin
08-09-2007, 12:01 AM
If surface does not matter for Richard why do you think he has a better chance at the other three?

now we are talking in circles, because he does not have to deal with the load of French expectations....it is no coincidence that the FO is his worst GS.

Allure
08-09-2007, 12:04 AM
Maybe you're right that the French expectation is too much for him and that's why his RG results haven't been too great. Hopefully though as time goes by that will change. He needs to learn how to deal with the pressure.

Puschkin
08-09-2007, 12:09 AM
Maybe you're right that the French expectation is too much for him and that's why his RG results haven't been too great.

well, they are not the only reason of course, last year he was briefly back from an injury, 2005 he met Nadal, but this year was a clear proof of great tensions.

BTW: it is not only true for Richard, many other Frenchies also play better at other GS. I don't believe in a general curse, though, but it is certainly difficult for them all.

Allure
08-09-2007, 12:15 AM
I don't wanna jinx Safin so I won't say anything. :p

richie21
08-09-2007, 01:11 AM
Well Nadal can't win forever and Federer is getting older so Richard could win it in two years. ( I really hope though I don't care much for RG) :p

the problem is that they are other young players who are growing as fast if not faster than him(Djokovic,Murray)

Puschkin
08-09-2007, 01:20 AM
the problem is that they are other young players who are growing as fast if not faster than him(Djokovic,Murray)

Who else? ;) Besides, Murray :rolleyes: has not achieved that much more.

Allure
08-09-2007, 01:24 AM
Growing fast doesn't guarantee anything IMO. They could burn out in a few years. (e.g Hewitt and Safin) What's most important is where one ends up in the long run.

richie21
08-09-2007, 01:25 AM
Who else? ;) Besides, Murray :rolleyes: has not achieved that much more.

Murray has been injured for almost 4 months.....if he hadn t been injured ,i think he would have probably been in the top 5,judging by his results just before he got injured.

Growing fast doesn't guarantee anything IMO. They could burn out in a few years. (e.g Hewitt and Safin).

Yeah but not growing at all means that something is wrong.....and that's the problem i have with Richard: in my opinion,despite his result at Wimbledon this year,his game has not improved at all and that's what is the most worrying.
Seriously,apart his serve(and still,that's not really sure)what part of his game has he really improved since 2005??

What's most important is where one ends up in the long run.

If Gasquet doesn t win at least a MS in the next 2 years,won t you begin to worry a little bit???
because me,i'll do.....

*Sweet4Richard*
08-09-2007, 02:06 AM
Richard :sad:

Saw the last set of the match and of course I'm disappointed that he lost. It kind of reminds me of the old Richard when we first became fans. I was hoping that maybe with the Wimbledon semi under his belt, things would be different, but guess not. I'm not terribly upset over the loss (Verdasco is an extremely capable player) but more disappointed because I want him to do so well. Top 10 was nice while it lasted, but let's just take some positive from this...that he'll do well in Cincy!

Allure
08-09-2007, 02:32 AM
Murray has been injured for almost 4 months.....if he hadn t been injured ,i think he would have probably been in the top 5,judging by his results just before he got injured.



Yeah but not growing at all means that something is wrong.....and that's the problem i have with Richard: in my opinion,despite his result at Wimbledon this year,his game has not improved at all and that's what is the most worrying.
Seriously,apart his serve(and still,that's not really sure)what part of his game has he really improved since 2005??



If Gasquet doesn t win at least a MS in the next 2 years,won t you begin to worry a little bit???
because me,i'll do.....

I think he improved his serve and return of serve. In the Roddick match, he returned I think a 134 mph serve Johnny Mac said. The ''old'' Richard couldn't have done that. His volleys are the same. Footwork same. Forehand is still unorthodox ( I don't wanna say ''ugly'') but he still hit incredible winners from that wing at times. He still stand too far from the baseline. So I guess I agree his game is still quite the same. But mentally he is getting better. (But that didn't show today)

If by 2008 he still doesn't have a MS then I will get very worried and suggest he start looking for a new day job.

richie21
08-09-2007, 11:47 AM
I think he improved his serve and return of serve.


what????
Just watch the Verdasco match and i think you'll laugh at your own comment.
Even against Roddick,i didn t think his return of serve was good......well,apart if you consider that "good return of serve = to put the ball on court".....:o
What is amazing is that even on Verdasco's second serve(Verdasco's serve for ffs,not Karlovic's or Roddick's!),he stayed so far behind the baseline......:mad:

Puschkin
08-09-2007, 11:55 AM
Murray has been injured for almost 4 months.....if he hadn t been injured ,i think he would have probably been in the top 5,judging by his results just before he got injured.

Well if Richard had not been injured in 2005 and 2006 he also could have done better, this is no argument. No Masters Final, no GS semi-final, 2 titles in total. Richard wins that comparison.:)

Allure
08-09-2007, 03:31 PM
what????
Just watch the Verdasco match and i think you'll laugh at your own comment.
Even against Roddick,i didn t think his return of serve was good......well,apart if you consider that "good return of serve = to put the ball on court".....:o
What is amazing is that even on Verdasco's second serve(Verdasco's serve for ffs,not Karlovic's or Roddick's!),he stayed so far behind the baseline......:mad:

Well there are some people who are not aggressive returners meaning they don't aim to hit winners on the return but to get the ball back. Federer does this. And I think Richard does it in the Roddick match. Doesn't mean he isn't improving on the return. :shrug:

my0118
08-09-2007, 03:45 PM
what????
Just watch the Verdasco match and i think you'll laugh at your own comment.
Even against Roddick,i didn t think his return of serve was good......well,apart if you consider that "good return of serve = to put the ball on court".....:o
What is amazing is that even on Verdasco's second serve(Verdasco's serve for ffs,not Karlovic's or Roddick's!),he stayed so far behind the baseline......:mad:

you don't think that his forehand and return are good and he has improved at all, why the fuck you like him? please don't say it's compatriotism.

By the way, you're pure class. :wavey:

richie21
08-09-2007, 07:47 PM
you don't think that his forehand and return are good and he has improved at all, why the fuck you like him? please don't say it's compatriotism.

By the way, you're pure class. :wavey:

because of his backhand,his ball touch,his grace....and obviously, let's not be hypocritical,because he is french and because i feel he has the talent to end France's malediction in the Grand Slams (for the men ,obviously).
The thing is that i really loved the Richard i saw in MC 2005 against Federer and Nadal but the more it goes and the less i'm fan of his style of play(and that's independent of results).
His game is becoming too defensive to my taste(generally not enough pace in his shots,a forehand not as flat as before,etc....) and if his game continues to developp in that direction,then i will stop being a fan of him,as simple as that.

Puschkin
08-09-2007, 08:00 PM
because of his backhand,his ball touch,his grace....and obviously, let's not be hypocritical,because he is french and because i feel he has the talent to end France's malediction in the Grand Slams (for the men ,obviously).
The thing is that i really loved the Richard i saw in MC 2005 against Federer and Nadal but the more it goes and the less i'm fan of his style of play(and that's independent of results).
His game is becoming too defensive to my taste(generally not enough pace in his shots,a forehand not as flat as before,etc....) and if his game continues to developp in that direction,then i will stop being a fan of him,as simple as that.

Nobody can play like Richard did in MC 2005 all the time, What you call "defensive" is the day-to day-tennis, like a routine day in the office, he needs to have that too, of course I am not talking about real passivity like against Robredo at the AO or partly yesterday.

I am sorry for bringing in Marat Safin here, but his 2000 win at the US OPen when he played outright perfectly, might have cost him a better career, he just expected from himself to play like this day in day out. That'S not a path Richard should take.

I think what Richard is now searching and not always finding is the balance between solidity and aggression. Does that all make any sense?

Allure
08-09-2007, 08:08 PM
Nobody can play like Richard did in MC 2005 all the time, What you call "defensive" is the day-to day-tennis, like a routine day in the office, he needs to have that too, of course I am not talking about real passivity like against Robredo at the AO or partly yesterday.

I am sorry for bringing in Marat Safin here, but his 2000 win at the US OPen when he played outright perfectly, might have cost him a better career, he just expected from himself to play like this day in day out. That'S not a path Richard should take.

I think what Richard is now searching and not always finding is the balance between solidity and aggression. Does that all make any sense?

Agree. Sometimes one plays a great match but when it comes to be routine, you start playing passively. Because one can not play great every match/every day. Like Federer. On big stages he plays great. But when it comes to first round/second round matches, he does enough to win. Is that what you're trying to say? :confused:

Puschkin
08-09-2007, 08:10 PM
Agree. Sometimes one plays a great match but when it comes to be routine, you start playing passively. Because one can not play great every match/every day. Like Federer. On big stages he plays great. But when it comes to first round/second round matches, he does enough to win. Is that what you're trying to say? :confused:

exactly.

richie21
08-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Agree. Sometimes one plays a great match but when it comes to be routine, you start playing passively. Because one can not play great every match/every day. Like Federer. On big stages he plays great. But when it comes to first round/second round matches, he does enough to win. Is that what you're trying to say? :confused:


yeah but at least, he is always the agressor.
I mean,for example,you'll never see Federer having less winners than a opponent in his first rounds while that 's far from being the case with Richard.
there is a difference beetween doing enough to win and playing passively.

Puschkin
08-09-2007, 08:22 PM
yeah but at least, he is always the agressor.
I mean,for example,you'll never see Federer having less winners than a opponent in his first rounds while that 's far from being the case with Richard.

Is that true? And if so, he also his fewer errors, no? Hitting winners is spectacular and flamboyant, but when it does not work, you have to reduce your own errors and force the opponent into errors, to have enough confidence to go into the "attacking mode2 when your strokes come back.

Allure
08-09-2007, 08:26 PM
I don't like defensive play either but sometimes if attacking doesn't work then you have to resort to playing defensively.

Puschkin
08-09-2007, 08:28 PM
I don't like defensive play either but sometimes if attacking doesn't work then you have to resort to playing defensively.

That's what I said and e.g. Roger's defense is highly underestimated. People see the brilliant shot-making and think this is it - far from it.

*Sweet4Richard*
08-10-2007, 03:09 AM
Clement/Gasquet d [7] Aspelin/Knowle 36 64 10-5 (Match TB) :woohoo:

silverwhite
08-10-2007, 03:19 AM
They seem to pair up well. :)

Schu
08-10-2007, 04:21 AM
Clement/Gasquet d [7] Aspelin/Knowle 36 64 10-5 (Match TB) :woohoo:

Maybe doubles will teach him where to stand when playing singles cuz there is no way they could beat a team like Aspelin/Knowle if he was standing on the next planet!

Nice practice but now the party is over - The Bryan Brothers.

tennis lover
08-10-2007, 03:09 PM
:banana:

JBdV
08-10-2007, 10:47 PM
Richard has drawn Wawrinka/Hewitt in Rd2 of Cincy. I imagine it will be Hewitt and that's gonna be very tough :unsure:

richie21
08-10-2007, 10:47 PM
What a tough draw for Richard!
Richard will play Hewitt or Wawrinka in the first round of Cincinnati!:o
and then he could play Haas or Ancic ,then Djokovic and then Federer.....no need to say that it's mission impossible for him.

It seems Richard will once again be eliminated in the first round......ca lui apprendra a se faire sortir au premier tour alors qu il avait un tableau super facile jusqu en 1/4 cette semaine :o

tennis lover
08-10-2007, 10:48 PM
I think he can beat Hewitt if he plays well, It is a tough draw though. :awww:

richie21
08-10-2007, 10:57 PM
I think he can beat Hewitt if he plays well, It is a tough draw though. :awww:


well,he can t even beat Verdasco when he is playing well(by his own words!) so.....

tennis lover
08-10-2007, 10:59 PM
I didn't see the match but from what other posters have said he played well at first but completely lost it from the second set TB. :shrug: we'll just have to wait and see what happens I suppose. :p

JBdV
08-10-2007, 11:01 PM
well,he can t even beat Verdasco when he is playing well(by his own words!) so.....

Earlier this year he lost to Qureshi just before making the Wimbledon semis so anything can happen :p

silverwhite
08-10-2007, 11:14 PM
Let's lose the first match again. :bounce:

silverwhite
08-10-2007, 11:15 PM
It seems Richard will once again be eliminated in the first round......ca lui apprendra a se faire sortir au premier tour alors qu il avait un tableau super facile jusqu en 1/4 cette semaine :o

:yeah:

my0118
08-10-2007, 11:58 PM
(1) FEDERER, Roger SUI/BYE
TURSUNOV, Dmitry RUS v Q/SE
(WC) HENMAN, Tim GBR v CHELA, Juan Ignacio ARG
BAGHDATIS, Marcos CYP v (14) MURRAY, Andy GBR
(11) LJUBICIC, Ivan CRO v Q/SE
ALMAGRO, Nicolas ESP v MAYER, Florian GER
NIEMINEN, Jarkko FIN v Q/SE
(7) ROBREDO, Tommy ESP/BYE

(4) DJOKOVIC, Novak SRB/BYE
MOYA, Carlos ESP v NALBANDIAN, David ARG
CALLERI, Agustin ARG v KOHLSCHREIBER, Philipp GER
Q/SE v (15) CANAS, Guillermo ARG
(12) HAAS, Tommy GER v ANCIC, Mario CRO
MELZER, Jurgen AUT v Q/SE
WAWRINKA, Stanislas SUI v HEWITT, Lleyton AUS
(8) GASQUET, Richard FRA/BYE

(5) DAVYDENKO, Nikolay/BYE
BJORKMAN, Jonas v (WC) GINEPRI, Robby
CLEMENT, Arnaud v MATHIEU, Paul-Henri
BECKER, Benjamin v (10) BERDYCH, Tomas
(16) FERRER, David v (WC) ISNER, John
FISH, Mardy v STEPANEK, Radek
VOLANDRI, Filippo v VERDASCO, Fernando
(3) RODDICK, Andy/BYE

(6) GONZALEZ, Fernando/BYE
FERRERO, Juan Carlos v Q/SE
SAFIN, Marat v KIEFER, Nicolas
Q/SE v (9) BLAKE, James
(13) YOUZHNY, Mikhail v HRBATY, Dominik
GICQUEL, Marc v (WC) QUERREY, Sam
Q/SE v MONACO, Juan
(2) NADAL, Rafael/BYE

as you guys said :help:

Mariana_lcf
08-11-2007, 02:03 AM
haha im sorry but richie is toast:) i hate being so pessimistic cuz im usually really optimistic but the draw is just terrible for richard, shame... if he decides to fight ala wimbledon, then maybe he can do something about the draw, but if he's as passive as in montreal then he's gone in the first round