I remember we did this at WTAworld & it was quite fun, lets do the ATP one, its pretty simple, we take all of the active players & arange them according to on-court achivments, & we dont involve ages. Here are the list that deserves spots (former #1's & GS winners automaticlly get in):
Patrick Rafter (not sure if we can call him active though...)
Thomas Johansson :o
Albert Costa :o
Marc Rosset (just because he won the 92 olympic gold medal)
Well now comes the fun part :D the rankings! :D
5.Lleyton Hewitt & Goran Ivanisevic
10.Marcelo Rios or Michael Chang or Albert Costa
I know this is not that sorted out... Lets work on it :D
08-18-2002, 08:15 AM
of your list:
1. Pete Sampras
2. Andre Agassi
3. Yevgeny Kafelnikov
4. Gustavo Kuerten
5. Patrick Rafter
6. Lleyton Hewitt
7. Goran Ivanisevic
8. Michael Chang
9. Richard Krajicek
10. Marat Safin
11. Carlos Moya
12. Albert costa
13. Thomas Johansson
14. Marc Rosset
08-18-2002, 09:22 PM
Lets all work on it together...
We almost all agree that Pete is #1 & that Andre is #2
Now Guga & Yevgeny are #3 & #4, but since Yevgeny has an olympic gold medal & 25 doubles title we will give him the edge even though he was never a world champion
Rafter & Hewitt are #5 & #6, its a tuff call to think who is higher.
Pat has muck more GS achivments & Masters Series achivments while Hewitt has a World Champion trophy & more titles.... The edge to Pat now that i think of it. #7 is Goran.
#8 is probably Marat. #9-11 are Chang, Moya & Kraijicek, the order can be put in pretty much every way
08-18-2002, 09:46 PM
I don't get it with Goran. He seems to be a one trick pony...yes he's been to the Wimbledon finals 3 other times but he doesn't have much else. Krajicek has won Wimbledon, been more consistent and has TMS title (Stuttgart at least that I can think of). Why is Goran consistently rated higher than Krajicek? I would put Chang and Moya higher. Chang has been #2 and reached multple GS finals and won many TMS. Moya has been #1, won French Open and been to AO finals and runner up at the World Champs.
1. Sampras *cough*
3. Hewitt (held onto #1 longer than following 2, won W)
5. Kuerten(one trick pony)
6. Rafter (does he count as active?)
7. Chang ( I think 7 & 8 might be interchangeable, certainly if
8. Moya Moya keeps it up)
Ivanisevic and Rios have been underachievers. Costa and Johanssen got lucky.
08-18-2002, 10:16 PM
I guess Chang needs to be closer to the top than to you´re putting him, I guess. Lets see.
08-18-2002, 10:53 PM
Goran won like 20 titles...
08-19-2002, 03:44 AM
And Chang won what? 30?
08-19-2002, 04:02 AM
Just did a research. From 1990 on. Michael Chang won 31 singles titles. Seven were Masters Series events. :eek:
What holds against him is his lack of Grand Slam titles. He reached the final of Roland Garros, Aussie Open and US Open, the semis of the Aussie and US (twice both of them) and the quarters on all four of them. But he could never win.
Im not trying to put Goran down at all, since he was a wonderful player as well, but I just dont think Chang can be so down being someone who stayed as a number for a good part of Sampras´ domination time. Thats my point.