Will Gonzo ever really fulfil his potential? [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Will Gonzo ever really fulfil his potential?

Andre'sNo1Fan
05-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Thats 3 major finals he's got to the in the last few months - Madrid, AO, now Rome. He just never turns up. This guy has amazing talent, why can't he put up more of a fight. He has the talent to be challenging Federer and Nadal on any service, its just talent wasting :rolleyes:

tangerine_dream
05-13-2007, 04:48 PM
There's always the Olympics next year. :)

stebs
05-13-2007, 04:57 PM
Thats 3 major finals he's got to the in the last few months - Madrid, AO, now Rome. He just never turns up. This guy has amazing talent, why can't he put up more of a fight. He has the talent to be challenging Federer and Nadal on any service, its just talent wasting :rolleyes:

He lost the matches to Federer in such fashion because Federer cruises against that type of player and will probably continue to do so in future. He lost to Nadal in such fashion I think because of a bad start which is so tough to come back from and because Nadal on clay simply isn't a match anyone can win at the moment.

Loremaster
05-13-2007, 05:03 PM
I love the guy his playing style his personality but he is mental rubbish he can play awesome tennis when there is nothing on the line , but when he meets someone in final he is flat and without fire, take AO he played hilarious winners/UE ration against Hewitt but was nowhere the level against Roge and it wasn't about Roger play (og course it was a factor but not the main one) but about his head which couldn't overcome pressure

Burrow
05-13-2007, 05:06 PM
actually today loremaster, his brain was the only thing working.

stebs
05-13-2007, 05:07 PM
I love the guy his playing style his personality but he is mental rubbish he can play awesome tennis when there is nothing on the line , but when he meets someone in final he is flat and without fire, take AO he played hilarious winners/UE ration against Hewitt but was nowhere the level against Roge and it wasn't about Roger play (og course it was a factor but not the main one) but about his head which couldn't overcome pressure

I actually think this is where you are entirely wrong. The AO final was TOTALLY to do with what Roger was doing.

Andre'sNo1Fan
05-13-2007, 05:11 PM
I actually think this is where you are entirely wrong. The AO final was TOTALLY to do with what Roger was doing.
Nothing to do with tennis is totally down to one player, its deluded of you to think that. Gonzalez never turned up then, just like he didn't today. Period.

Sunset of Age
05-13-2007, 05:52 PM
Nothing to do with tennis is totally down to one player, its deluded of you to think that. Gonzalez never turned up then, just like he didn't today. Period.

Do you really believe Gonzo 'not turning up' didn't have anything to do with the awesome player on the other side of the net - in both cases? :rolleyes:

Burrow
05-13-2007, 05:53 PM
he missed a forehand at break point, sitter, nadal lost footing and whole court was open, he was up further than serving line and he screwed it due to nadals influence.

Andre'sNo1Fan
05-13-2007, 06:01 PM
Do you really believe Gonzo 'not turning up' didn't have anything to do with the awesome player on the other side of the net - in both cases? :rolleyes:
Not really. Sure you can lose, and you can lose. He lost without much fight, like he already knew the outcome. Look at Davydenko, at least he gave it a shot.

RickDaStick
05-13-2007, 06:20 PM
Gonzo's last 5 finals

Rome 2007 lost to Nadal 26 26
Aussie Open 2007 lost to Federer 67 46 46
Basel 2006 lost to Federer 36 26 67
Madrid 2006 lost to Federer 57 16 06
Vienna 2006 lost to Ljubicic 36 46 57

Remarkable to see how he just keeps getting thumped in these finals after having such good weeks to make it that far.

krakenzero
05-13-2007, 06:25 PM
I think it's easier to explain than a lot of people think: against Nadal, Gonzo has the potential to beat him but needs to be on the zone the whole match, like in AO. The other option would be picking the right strategy and keeping it consistently (I think his best option is to make points shorter, like Federer did in Rome 2006), but "Gonzo" and "strategy" don't have much chance to be in the same sentence. In Rome 2006 and 2007, Gonzo tried to defeat Nadal from behind the baseline, and he doesn't have the speed or the stamina for that. What would work better for Davydenko, Cañas, Ferrero or Almagro won't work for Feña, who need to make points shorter in order to have some chances when he's not in the zone. If not, he has no chances against a healthy Nadal in clay.

Against Federer, it's more simple: he has not the game to put FedEx in trouble. Roger just doesn't have any problem with players like him. His only chance is doing "the big Volandri" or something like that.

Anyway, I wouldn't blame on him for losing againste Federer and Nadal on his major finals. Since 2003, the only players -apart from Fed & Nadal- that have won majors, didn't have to play against Fed & Nadal the whole tournament.

ChinoRios4Ever
05-13-2007, 06:26 PM
Gonzo's last 5 finals

Rome 2007 lost to Nadal 26 26
Aussie Open 2007 lost to Federer 67 46 46
Basel 2006 lost to Federer 36 26 67
Madrid 2006 lost to Federer 57 16 06
Vienna 2006 lost to Ljubicic 36 46 57

Remarkable to see how he just keeps getting thumped in these finals after having such good weeks to make it that far.

and remarkable to see that he played against almost impossible players to beat in all finals...

Ljubo = Mr. Vienna (he won 2 titles in a row without losing a single set)
Fed... almost the best player ever play the game
Rafa = candidate for the best claycourter ever... (77 straight wins on clay and counting)

yeah, Gonzo probably dont play well in the finals, but see against who is playing too :o

LeChuck
05-13-2007, 06:26 PM
Basel 2006 lost to Federer 36 26 67
Madrid 2006 lost to Federer 57 16 06
Vienna 2006 lost to Ljubicic 36 46 57



Ouch. Losing in 3 finals in the space of 3 weeks must have hurt like hell. 15 matches in about 20 days and no title to show for it.

ranaldo
05-13-2007, 07:23 PM
He's fulfilling his potential alright. Reaching that many finals is fantastic! There's nothing surprising about his losses. He needs to work on his backhand.

disturb3d
05-13-2007, 07:24 PM
He's soared way past his potential.

Loremaster
05-13-2007, 07:31 PM
I actually think this is where you are entirely wrong. The AO final was TOTALLY to do with what Roger was doing.

ok Roger played great match credit to him , but Gonzo was never fired up as he used to be in less important matches , no fireworks much less risk etc. The same today he wasn't there mentally Nadal played great but Gonzo make it easier for him I wasn't expecting his vicotory but at least one tough set and Gonzo has weapons to make it tough for anyone but in important matches he just is so flat

Andre'sNo1Fan
05-13-2007, 09:10 PM
and remarkable to see that he played against almost impossible players to beat in all finals...

Ljubo = Mr. Vienna (he won 2 titles in a row without losing a single set)
Fed... almost the best player ever play the game
Rafa = candidate for the best claycourter ever... (77 straight wins on clay and counting)

yeah, Gonzo probably dont play well in the finals, but see against who is playing too :o
Ljubicic, impossible to beat :confused:

Its not the fact he lost, but the way he lost, as if he was resigned to defeat almost before he started, or as soon as things got a little bit difficult on the court. He's got amazing abilities,and he should be able to compete with these players. I dunno if its an inferiority complex with him because it has seemed that way in the past.

Balerion
05-13-2007, 09:26 PM
Fernando Gonzalez is fulfilling his potential. He has reached the top 5, which is pretty impressive for someone with as poor a backhand as he has.


When are people going to realize that only 1 person can be #1 and only 10 people can be in the top 10? Sometimes it seems that a number of posters on MTF expect that there should be six guys ranked #1, 14 #2s, 20 #3s, and dozens of players in the top 10. It's just not possible.

NicoFan
05-13-2007, 09:36 PM
Fernando Gonzalez is fulfilling his potential. He has reached the top 5, which is pretty impressive for someone with as poor a backhand as he has.

When are people going to realize that only 1 person can be #1 and only 10 people can be in the top 10? Sometimes it seems that a number of posters on MTF expect that there should be six guys ranked #1, 14 #2s, 20 #3s, and dozens of players in the top 10. It's just not possible.

Thank you. :yeah:

Fernando is doing just fine. He's got a good record.

And he works hard and tries his best.

That's all we can ask of him.

Vamos Feńa
05-13-2007, 09:40 PM
He may fullfil his potential. Throughout 2002-2005 he was an ordinary player from South Amercia who had his moments once in 2months. Sometimes he reached 3r or QF in Masters Series where he dissapointed. After starting working with Larry he developed his game and improved mentally, reaching SF in Cincy, Toronto, 3r US (5set lose to Murray) 3 Finals in Europe and in Melbourne. He made a huge step forward. Now it's just time to make the last step - stay calm and play his best in the most important matches. Impossible is nothin'!

Fena :hug:
Always believing in you :yeah:

GonzoFed
05-13-2007, 10:03 PM
Ljubicic, impossible to beat :confused:

Its not the fact he lost, but the way he lost, as if he was resigned to defeat almost before he started, or as soon as things got a little bit difficult on the court. He's got amazing abilities,and he should be able to compete with these players. I dunno if its an inferiority complex with him because it has seemed that way in the past.

You gave the answer to your own thread question in the bolded phrase. Now if you think that it should be easy to work that out, you just don't have a clue. Gonzo has done very well in his career considering his habilities and style of play, and he wasn't resigned to defeat, he just lost to the better player (this statement includes the losses against Federer also). This armchair tennis some nutjobs here in MTF play is very annoying and stupid. They think that is just a problem of x player saying to himself "I'm not afraid of Federer or Nadal" and VOILA!!! He wins!!!. Confidence has to be supported by a full set of skills, and nurtured with a great deal of focus and mental toughness day in and day out that allows you to win when you are not at your best, something a few chosen ones can do, which is the apparently close, but to the keen eye a big difference, between a great player and a legend.