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VOLANDRI DEF KING ROGER 6-2 6-4 IN JUST 1h18mins!!!!!!!

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Mr Brightside
05-10-2007, 02:58 PM
OMG :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Filo beats Roger????????????????????????????????????????????? ??is it a joke???????:spit:


:haha::crazy::angel: :devil: :worship: :p :wavey: :rolleyes: :D

Congrats!!!!best wins ever for him and for italians!!!a final for him is not impossible :cool: :eek:

ShimSham
05-10-2007, 02:59 PM
Congrats Volandri! :eek:

Hendu
05-10-2007, 02:59 PM
Pipo!!!!! :D

Billabong
05-10-2007, 02:59 PM
Unbelievably bad from Federer, good for Volandri, he deserved it.
Roger, that was one hell of a poor performance. I don't see him anywhere close to win RG at this level, huge setback for his clay season. Total disappointment:sad:..

bluefork
05-10-2007, 02:59 PM
Wow. I don't think I've ever seen Federer play worse.

Goonergal
05-10-2007, 02:59 PM
Wow. Well done Volandri, great scenes :D

Federer :o

Andre♥
05-10-2007, 02:59 PM
Great win Pipo!!!

But Federer was HORRIBLE today. Even Sampras could play better than this on clay...

TheBoiledEgg
05-10-2007, 02:59 PM
omg losing to Big Ears :help:

that was a pathetic gutless heartless display.

miura
05-10-2007, 02:59 PM
Awful by Roger :/

Jevel
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
Great win for Volandri. Rest Roger.

shotgun
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
wow :eek:

Congrats Pipo. :worship:

azza
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
WOAH so random :eek:

JesusFed :sad:

Beforehand
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
I'm not sure there's anything that can be said after this.

I want it to be grass season now. This was a COMPLETE mess.

Vamos Rafa#1
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Kitty de Sade
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
Un-be-lievable...:eek:

tripb19
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
Expected result.

This Volandri is good.

Parent power!

P.S. Worst Roger has ever played.

Mistaflava
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
:haha:

Regenbogen
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
:crazy: I don't know what to say.

nanoman
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
Awesome Roger, when is the next exhibition ? Unbelievable !

Sunset of Age
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
GREAT WIN for Pipo!!! :hatoff:

Rogelio? did you get a colon infection, or WHAT??? :o :eek: :speakles: :speakles: :speakles: :crying2: :hysteric: :timebomb: :eek: :sad: :sad: :mad:

I think it's official now: Rogi is in a true, undisputed SLUMP. :hug:

yomike
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
Congrats Volandri, nice win to take out Heidi.

bad gambler
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
Well played, I thought he would bottle it serving for the match but credit to him for closing it out :yeah:

CyBorg
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
And people here complained when I said that it was Federer who struggled in the Canas matches, rather than Canas playing amazing.

Federer has stunk since Dubai. It's just a fact.

Naide
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
http://yelims3.free.fr/Hein/Hein85.gif

A_Skywalker
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
OMG :eek:

Julio1974
05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Thanks Pipo !!!!!

Grunge
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
So expected...

JuanRodriguez
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
wow, the Italian crowd must have gone cray! :eek:

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Well done volandri, but damn what the hell happened to federer's forehand, it was diabolical!

bokehlicious
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Another horrible display by Roger... :retard: :zzz:

2moretogo
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Good for Volandri!

But Roger, what the hell happened to your game? The shot selection was, well puzzling, omg and that fh was missing everywhere. yikes.

Sofyaxo
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Andy and Roger must have had a fight and broken up this morning.

It's the only explanation.

scoobs
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Congratulations to Volandri for playing a solid match and holding it together.

Abysmal from Federer but take nothing away from Volandri - he deserved the win today.

issei
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
He just did his play...the best play ever out of what he can do.. today, in Rome....well done :worship:

Deathless Mortal
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Pippo :worship: :worship: :worship:
Mediter :bowdown:

Marek.
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Goes from winning a slam without losing a set to this.

Good job Volandri.

adee-gee
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

This Federer is good.

Blue Heart24
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
First,change that ugly thread title! :rolleyes:
The only King of Tennis is Oscar Hernandez:worship:

:p

Pippo :worship:

Mistaflava
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
it's Mirka's fault...she made Roger eat 6 times yesterday that fat ass

ReturnWinner
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
why this loss has to be related to cañas wins over fed?????????
different match, different player,different surface,different moment, different situation.
And people here complained when I said that it was Federer who struggled in the Canas matches, rather than Canas playing amazing.

Federer has stunk since Dubai. It's just a fact.

maria87
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
BRAVO FILIPPO!! he is a great clay court player! It seems that Cañas showed how to do it! :worship: :worship:

Dexter_1986
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
Get out of this slump, Roger! :sobbing:

Congrats Filippo.

Mistaflava
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
First,change that ugly thread title! :rolleyes:
The only King of Tennis is Oscar Hernandez:worship:

:p

Pippo :worship:



Nice to see we can always count on you for the IDIOT COMMENT OF THE DAY...what a complete moron you are.

safinou
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
WTF happened to Roger??????????????? 44 unforced errors!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could hardly recognize him....
Anyway, well done Volandri!!

my0118
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
:haha: volandri's reaction was like he won the tourney!!
anyway congrats volandri.
I still had thought roger would win even though he was down a set.

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
Expected result.

This Volandri is good.

Parent power!

P.S. Worst Roger has ever played.


I know it was nasty, they way federer was playing it would have been cruel for him to win!

ASP0315
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
Well done Pippo :worship:

BTW this thier second H2H meeting. it tied 1-1.( Roger Federer beat him the last time here in Rome 4 years ago.)

ReturnWinner
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
in this match federer did not play very well really but props to pippo , he played very well and take all chances the swiss gave him.

SwiSha
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
well done Pipo

Medina
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
Volandri You ledgend! :inlove: :hug: :kiss: :p :inlove:

Shabazza
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
Fed wasn't on the court - his mind was somewhere else. It looked like he couldn't care less if he lost.

wildegirl05
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
i'm in shock...ROGER! :sobbing:

congrats to volandri for wrapping it up

maria87
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
why this loss has to be related to cañas wins over fed?????????
different match, different player,different surface,different moment, different situation.

oh it just that Cañas showed that he is not invencilbe, beating him 2 times in 15 days...that was an achievement!! and Federer felt the blow!:wavey:

Billabong
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
This really feels the end of Roger's total dominance of the tour right now, even in 2004 he had 4 defeats in a year:tape: We aren't even in the middle of the season and he already got 4, wtf happened to his game:tape:!!!

ljubicic_
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
why this loss has to be related to cañas wins over fed?????????
different match, different player,different surface,different moment, different situation.

Maybe because Canas and Pipo ar the only 2 players who have beaten Fed in a year? and Ndadal ofcourse

Or Levy
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
That was just...

Sigh.

Tears.

Agony.

This was all mental, he was glowering at himself mentally since the first break, and his FH was just GONE.

Volnadri played well and served 71%, Roger... lets not even talk about it, 41%.
That was just depressing, he was really looking upbeat after his first against Almagro! Now THIS?!!!!

There goes his final points, AGAIN!!!!!!!

Alvarillo
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
The worst match played by a World Nº1 ever :lol:
Everything he hit were out the lines :rolleyes:
Today Rofer Federer didn't play in the Rome Center Court, it was someone with his face but not his tennis :sad:

Volandri only had to put the ball inside the lines although he played some great shots and keep his momentum and didn't choke! so congrats to him

FiBeR
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
:eek:

is this thread true? :eek:

i cant believe it

keqtqiadv
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
:haha: :haha:

mangoes
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Congrats Volandri:D

Roger.......Shocking Performance........This is one post match interview I'm eager to read:sad: :sad:

Modetopia
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Just wow...
Roger:o

tripb19
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Maybe he's about to propose to Mirka or something . . . personal tragedy . . . idk, seriously, wtf.

savesthedizzle
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
I was out and only got home for the last game so can't really comment on quality of play, but congrats to Volandri. It was nice to see his excitement at getting such a huge win in his home country :D Good luck to him in the next round :)

lisaplenske
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
it was the shadow of federer today who was playing.

Something bad perhaps tragic happened to him,couldnt focus on tennis today.

Andre♥
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Mirka's face at 2:6 3:5 said everything. She looked fucking pissed at Roger.

Roger, get a coach with less than 150 years or he'll end up like Safin.

TMJordan
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
All hail king Pipo :bowdown:

Byrd
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Really bad performance, was hard to watch.

The stats tell it all

7 winners 52 UE

Gratz Volandri

ljubicic_
05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
I'm afraid that the time where Fed dominated tennis is officialy over.

t0x
05-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Worst match ever from Federer... even worse than the first Canas one. Just didn't look interested really... never got fired up, UE and after UE. Not one area of his game was firing... missing forehands, 2 double faults in some games, backhand was all of the place and didnt really have any tactics.

At least it's going to take a bit of pressure off him come RG, and I guess he will play Hamburg now.

TheBoiledEgg
05-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Fed wasn't on the court - his mind was somewhere else. It looked like he couldn't care less if he lost.

thinking of a way of how to slim down Mirka....... now thats harder to do than beating Piggy on clay. :eek:

rafagirlno1
05-10-2007, 03:05 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: pipo :worship: :worship: :worship:
thanks for coming fed :wavey:

ReturnWinner
05-10-2007, 03:05 PM
no , i just mean the excuses that cyabjorg guy is using to justify federer losse to cañas
Maybe because Canas and Pipo ar the only 2 players who have beaten Fed in a year? and Ndadal ofcourse

mallorn
05-10-2007, 03:05 PM
What on earth is going on with Roger's form, how does he want to win the French if he can't beat Volandri? :speakles:

Volandri was beside himself with happiness. :lol: He did well to keep it together, I thought he would choke for sure. :hatoff:

FiBeR
05-10-2007, 03:05 PM
so now volandri is the clay king :rolleyes: and volandri for Roland Garros :rolleyes:

:lol:


:yeah: enjoy this day Filippo :worship: you deserve it..after such a hard fought!

:yeah:

Taking out Gasquet and Federer in consecutives rounds :worship: not something he does in every tourney :D

I feel so happy for Filippo :bounce:

Clara Bow
05-10-2007, 03:05 PM
But wha???? Roger's forehand was back on Tuesday. Where did it go today???? This was a painful match to watch as a Roger fan.

Congrats to Volandri - and it was cute how happy he was, but wth Roger?!

Bili
05-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Congrats Pippo! :angel:

Fumus
05-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Oh wow.

qczi
05-10-2007, 03:06 PM
bandwagon player of may for sure :D

martine2
05-10-2007, 03:06 PM
OMG WOW!!! Volandri :worship: :worship: :worship:
The stunt of the tournament!! And this before a home crowd! Must be the day of his life :D

Andre♥
05-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Well if Nadal is really with health problems, Volandri can actually win Rome! :scratch:

anon57
05-10-2007, 03:07 PM
Really bad performance, was hard to watch.

The stats tell it all

7 winners 52 UE

Gratz Volandri

Really that's awfull. Anyways congratulation to Volandri, this must be a really big win win for him

Mr Brightside
05-10-2007, 03:07 PM
i want volandri-starace in final :banana:

RonE
05-10-2007, 03:07 PM
Wow I did not see this one coming :eek: :tape:

On the upside, I guess this means at least that he will play Hamburg :o

maria87
05-10-2007, 03:07 PM
Well if Nadal is really with health problems, Volandri can actually win Rome! :scratch:

that would be great! Filippo deserved it! he is a great clay court player!

Medina
05-10-2007, 03:08 PM
im still happy, i want to post another 5000 times, to show my excitement :)

bad gambler
05-10-2007, 03:08 PM
i want volandri-starace in final :banana:

:eek:

LilyRoseAva
05-10-2007, 03:08 PM
good for berdych (or acasuso) that

Corswandt
05-10-2007, 03:08 PM
Well if Nadal is really with health problems, Volandri can actually win Rome! :scratch:

Volandri is Robredo lite (if that is possible - and it makes Fed's loss look even worse). I doubt he'll get past Acasuso or Berdych for a starters.

shotgun
05-10-2007, 03:08 PM
Federer and Canas are out, if Nadal pulls out today, we'll have a surprise winner in Rome.

croat123
05-10-2007, 03:09 PM
fed is losing his edge
lost twice to canas, then once to nadal, now to volandri
4 tournaments in a row...

Psichogauchovna
05-10-2007, 03:09 PM
:o

Roger :yawn: wtf????

Italians :devil:

Frederick16
05-10-2007, 03:09 PM
Pipo!! :) does he still have that hot GF ?

t0x
05-10-2007, 03:09 PM
This really feels the end of Roger's total dominance of the tour right now, even in 2004 he had 4 defeats in a year:tape: We aren't even in the middle of the season and he already got 4, wtf happened to his game:tape:!!!

Well I wouldn't go that far YET. But certainly, with RG and Wimbers coming up - he's gotta be a bit concerned.

It's the forehand that's causing difficulty. Even in 2004, he could turn up to an event with it firing first match. Now he seems to mis-time it a lot and it takes him about 4 matches to get it to his optimum level.

A blip was gunna come at some stage, I guess now is a pretty good time for it since he's not favourite for RG, with the pressure off, maybe he can find his game again.

Jogy
05-10-2007, 03:10 PM
Federer :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:


haha that was a great match if you root for Volandri or against Federer! :lol: I'm glad that Fed jerk lost! :devil:

Volandri smashed Federer from left to right all over the court and let him not much chance. I'm glad he served out on first time, because not, then Federer might win in three. You run out of luck Federer! no choke this time of the opponent! :rolls:

This match brought back memories how good old Costa cut Federer into pieces in 2004.

Mr Brightside
05-10-2007, 03:10 PM
Pipo!! :) does he still have that hot GF ?

nope

Castafiore
05-10-2007, 03:11 PM
:speakles:



Slump talk is premature. The main goal is RG, let's see how he performs there.

guy in sf
05-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Who are Heidi and Big Ears?

Dilara
05-10-2007, 03:12 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
WTF Rogah:o

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:12 PM
i want volandri-starace in final :banana:

in all honesty his performance was good it might give him confidence but all the neutrals will tell you federer was simply shit today, it was a case of federer playing 30% so Volandri camp will enjoy the victory but they won't read to much into it!

nobama
05-10-2007, 03:12 PM
Probably the worst match he's played in years. After playing a great match against Almagro. :sad:

asotgod
05-10-2007, 03:13 PM
Federer is a very stupid guy. Just a lot of skills but no head. Like Nadal and Davydenko have said for a while and which this match shows again, he does not like slow serves at all and does nothing with them. Volandri just spun in slow serves and Federer just clearly could not do anything with them. He was constantly trying to hit high with no progress. Very stupid. I dont know who stated that hitting high was a recipe for success on clay. He needs to work on his weakness and get rid of Roche. In all honesty, I have not seen any impact of Roche on his game despite all the cry of improving his second serve, volley and what not. He is getting worse day after day.

If he really wants to keep winning slams, he has a lot of work to do. Too many weaknesses.

1. No head - no need to explain
2. Stop covering the backhand. He just cannot recover to the forehand side at all. Safin did it against him, Nalby does, particularly Nadal time and time again. Nadal goes wide to his forehand and then Fed hits an error on the next shot. That has worked time after time. In fact, I think it has been a very valuable strategy more than hitting to his backhand. The backhand even when bad was not creating the stupid effect the useless forehand now is creating. Just no recovery to the forehand side. Once the ball is hit flat and away or spun off with pace towards his forehand wide, he gets to the ball but either dumps into the net or just hits an error. He needs to go crosscourt short at least enough for recovery instead of the crap he has been doing.

3. Returns - he has a very terrible slow serve return and this has nothing to do with clay. Hardcourts obviously cover up this for him a lot but he has even been exposed by Canas twice as well. When an opponent his a slow second serve, Federer stupidly just tries to hit hard and deep, sometimes with height which does not make any sense at all. Here are balls that should be hit, IMO, at medium pace with more angle generated to force the opponent to have to react. Tennis has always been a game of placement. I dont know why he has forgotten that. All the crappy baseline long games he is beginning to play does not make any sense. Before, he plays with a lot of angles. Now, no angles. Just long and deep, long and deep. No sense. Also, I dont know who told him the slice cannot be effective on this surface. He should use the slice and stop trying to play from so far back on the clay court when returning.

4. Work on his serve. All those crappy variations to his first serve have done him no good. He needs to work on that as that and his forehand really brought him to limelight not that stupid backhand which he is trying to show off. He is leaving his strengths and playing another game to try to win. Does not make any sense.


If he does not make this adjustments, he is definitely going down this year and permanently.

Byrd
05-10-2007, 03:13 PM
The thing with Federer is that even when his backhand was misfiring, all the other parts of his game especially his forehand would get him out of sticky situations, with those gone as well, hes screwed.

meelis13
05-10-2007, 03:13 PM
:speakles:

Betty
05-10-2007, 03:13 PM
grande FILO :banana:

Pigpen Stinks
05-10-2007, 03:13 PM
The most surprising thing about this for me is that there aren't 7 threads up already about how Federer should retire immediately.

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:14 PM
:speakles:



Slump talk is premature. The main goal is RG, let's see how he performs there.


remember were judging federer by his own standards! its a slump!

Mr Brightside
05-10-2007, 03:14 PM
in all honesty his performance was good it might give him confidence but all the neutrals will tell you federer was simply shit today, it was a case of federer playing 30% so Volandri camp will enjoy the victory but they won't read to much into it!

i know but berdych and gonzo are not like roger and rafa :p

azmad_88
05-10-2007, 03:14 PM
wow..congrats volandri...im proud of u!

my0118
05-10-2007, 03:15 PM
at least he's not bagelled like roddick.

neme6
05-10-2007, 03:15 PM
what the hell was that Roger, I have the impression that he is thinking so much about beating Nadal that he sometimes forgets about his opponents before

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:15 PM
The most surprising thing about this for me is that there aren't 7 threads up already about how Federer should retire immediately.


give it time!

adee-gee
05-10-2007, 03:15 PM
:lol: so Federer plays badly and something "tragic" must've happened in his life :rolls:

Mistaflava
05-10-2007, 03:16 PM
Roger Has To Get Rid Of Mirka...she Is Ruining His Legacy With Her Selfish Eating Habits!!!

Yappa
05-10-2007, 03:17 PM
I am speechless...

But good for Hamburg, I guess. :D ;) His favorite clay tournament will welcome him with open arms and a favorable draw. ;) (Unless he is injured, of course)

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:17 PM
what the hell was that Roger, I have the impression that he is thinking so much about beating Nadal that he sometimes forgets about his opponents before

seeing how he reached the final of the last 4 clay court tourney's he's entered that can't be true!

Frederick16
05-10-2007, 03:17 PM
normally when roger dont play that well he is still beating everyone.. so it is still great of volandri to beat the best player ever! he can tell his children for ever he has done it

Allez
05-10-2007, 03:17 PM
Roger seems to be winding down. Had to happen at some point. No one (aside from Nadal) can maintain that high level of focus and intensity for ever. His dominance is over. I hope he can still win Wimbledon, but I have my doubts about that as well. So no TMS titles so far. If Nadal wins here, he'll have 3. Such a sad fall from grace for Rogi. Everyone was touting him the best of all time BEFORE had had a chance to accomplish very much

Horatio Caine
05-10-2007, 03:17 PM
Volandri :bigclap: :worship: :eek: :banana: :yeah:

Roger! :eek: :tape: :o :smash: :bolt:

fabolous
05-10-2007, 03:17 PM
volandri is a legend :yeah:

FiBeR
05-10-2007, 03:17 PM
Federer and Canas are out, if Nadal pulls out today, we'll have a surprise winner in Rome.

:retard: Oh no!! Not Hamburg 2006 AGAIN!

:retard:

:rocker2:

(not :retard: as you! :p the fact to have Robredo as a TMS shield holder makes me feel :o)

Blue Heart24
05-10-2007, 03:18 PM
Nice to see we can always count on you for the IDIOT COMMENT OF THE DAY...what a complete moron you are.

stfu you :retard:

Byrd
05-10-2007, 03:18 PM
what the hell was that Roger, I have the impression that he is thinking so much about beating Nadal that he sometimes forgets about his opponents before

It's pretty ironic thinking about that, its like the roddick and federer situation, when roddick was thinking about how to beat federer so much he made changes to his game and eventually ended up slumping for nearly a whole year. Same could be happening to Fed and his 'changes' to his game.

*bunny*
05-10-2007, 03:18 PM
Congrats, Pippo! :eek: :worship:

I think his slow serve worked to his advantage. Remeber that in MC Rafa said he wasn't serving fast against Fed because he feeds off the pace of the opponent's serve?
Volandri no longer makes as many DFs as he used to do, and he hits a slow, high-percentage serve that doesn't give Fed any rhythm.
Serving slowly and accurately may be a key to disrupt his game.

FiBeR
05-10-2007, 03:18 PM
im looking forward to seeing Federer (in top form) vs Nadal in Hamburg! :bounce:

taht kind of clay court is special for Roger.. he plays his best tennis there :bounce:

adee-gee
05-10-2007, 03:19 PM
Another horrible display by Roger... :retard: :zzz:
:hug: it almost sounds like you're bored with Roger :awww:

Perhaps you should contemplate a move to the other side :cool:

Corswandt
05-10-2007, 03:19 PM
His dominance is over. I hope he can still win Wimbledon, but I have my doubts about that as well.

He has no serious competition at Wimbledon.

SBruguera
05-10-2007, 03:19 PM
Roger :eek: :eek: :eek:

First time I use my Vcash for betting:smash:

georgekuo1017
05-10-2007, 03:19 PM
OMG great win pippo!!!!!!!! :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

Jimnik
05-10-2007, 03:20 PM
:eek: Roddick and Federer - the fast court masters demolished. Maybe Rome has the slowest clay courts in the world. :shrug:

A massive U-turn in court speed. :haha:

tripb19
05-10-2007, 03:20 PM
:lol: so Federer plays badly and something "tragic" must've happened in his life :rolls:

Nope, he played tragically so something bad must've happened in his life.

Medina
05-10-2007, 03:20 PM
IF rafeal moves out either:

Chela
or Davydenko

ljubicic_
05-10-2007, 03:20 PM
Federer and Canas are out, if Nadal pulls out today, we'll have a surprise winner in Rome.


I wouldn't call nole a surpising winner..

NYCtennisfan
05-10-2007, 03:20 PM
Federer made about 3 UE per GAME in this match. I haven't seen him play this poorly since maybe 2002 and even then he didn't hit as weakly as he did in this match.

Mrs. B
05-10-2007, 03:21 PM
last night Roger had too much penne with gorgonzola sauce, drank 2 bottles of chianti, had tiramisu, 2 espressi, 5 grappa... :o

:devil:

asotgod
05-10-2007, 03:21 PM
Well I wouldn't go that far YET. But certainly, with RG and Wimbers coming up - he's gotta be a bit concerned.

It's the forehand that's causing difficulty. Even in 2004, he could turn up to an event with it firing first match. Now he seems to mis-time it a lot and it takes him about 4 matches to get it to his optimum level.

A blip was gunna come at some stage, I guess now is a pretty good time for it since he's not favourite for RG, with the pressure off, maybe he can find his game again.

It is the end for him unless he goes back to the drawing board. He just does not recover well to his forehand. that's the secret Lundgren must have told Safin. Safin used it so well at the AUSOPEN 05 and so has Nadal every single time. When you camp too long on the backhand side and then a ball is wide towards your forehand, Federer tries to kill two birds with one stone by going up the line. I dont know how that makes any sense because he either dumps it into the net or goes long. Instead, he should go crosscourt at medium pace but with enough angle for opponent to cover and also for him to recover. If he wants to go up the line, the practice and master that before coming to the court time and time again to make a fool of yourself.

Federer cannot play slow at all. He likes to react quickly so when the game is slowed down, he is not deliberate enough with his attack or strategy and tries instead to overpower the opponent. Tennis is a game of placement. If opponent is playing slow, then place the ball before going for something big when not necessary. I think I and many others have given him too much credit for his ability to think. He cannot think well. He should be giving credit for ability to react rather than think. He just does not think well at all.

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:22 PM
Federer and Canas are out, if Nadal pulls out today, we'll have a surprise winner in Rome.

if that happens I'd start thinking alot of
http://www.totalenergy.com/LpGAS/images/tanking_out_web_img_0.jpg was involved

nobama
05-10-2007, 03:22 PM
Roger seems to be winding down. Had to happen at some point. No one (aside from Nadal) can maintain that high level of focus and intensity for ever. His dominance is over. I hope he can still win Wimbledon, but I have my doubts about that as well. So no TMS titles so far. If Nadal wins here, he'll have 3. Such a sad fall from grace for Rogi. Everyone was touting him the best of all time BEFORE had had a chance to accomplish very much you are :retard: The guy has 10 slams, 47 titles and #1 for three+ years and you say he hasn't had a chance to accomplish very much?

Obviously he's in a serious slump right now (or something is wrong that no one knows about), but the year's not over and he has time to recover. Get a grip! :rolleyes:

Byrd
05-10-2007, 03:22 PM
What I don't understand is that he came 1 week early to Rome before everyone else yet he stills play this shit.......mirka and her fashion demands...

Sunset of Age
05-10-2007, 03:22 PM
On the upside, I guess this means at least that he will play Hamburg :o

Always good to see that you can always find a positive side on anything, Ron. :hug:

Kitty de Sade
05-10-2007, 03:23 PM
Congrats Volandri:D

Roger.......Shocking Performance........This is one post match interview I'm eager to read:sad: :sad:

You and I both on that one. :yeah:

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:23 PM
It's pretty ironic thinking about that, its like the roddick and federer situation, when roddick was thinking about how to beat federer so much he made changes to his game and eventually ended up slumping for nearly a whole year. Same could be happening to Fed and his 'changes' to his game.

but unlike Roddicks slump Federer reached the last 4 clay court tourney's he entered! so its not ironic at all!

Jimnik
05-10-2007, 03:23 PM
After watching Starace against Ferrero last night, it doesn't surprise me to see any Italian pull off an upset here in Rome. The crowd seems to have a massive effect on the outcome.

asotgod
05-10-2007, 03:23 PM
Congrats, Pippo! :eek: :worship:

I think his slow serve worked to his advantage. Remeber that in MC Rafa said he wasn't serving fast against Fed because he feeds off the pace of the opponent's serve?
Volandri no longer makes as many DFs as he used to do, and he hits a slow, high-percentage serve that doesn't give Fed any rhythm.
Serving slowly and accurately may be a key to disrupt his game.

Exactly. Volandri just kept using the slow serves which Federer could not adjust too. He just cannot play slow at all. How can he be the best then?

Champion number 1
05-10-2007, 03:24 PM
I just cant believe it. I couldnt even watch it coz I had to go hospital and I get back and Pippo won. I am so amazed, I just cant express it with words... I just hope Starace can follow now and get 2 Italians in the QF, would be amazing.

bokehlicious
05-10-2007, 03:25 PM
:hug: it almost sounds like you're bored with Roger :awww:

Perhaps you should contemplate a move to the other side :cool:

See, the four last time I happen to see him play was the 4 last pathetic defeats... Just plain ugly. This kind of tennis is disgraceful. Roger needs to stop embarrassing himself like this :o :timebomb:

Castafiore
05-10-2007, 03:25 PM
Roger seems to be winding down. Had to happen at some point. No one (aside from Nadal) can maintain that high level of focus and intensity for ever. His dominance is over. I hope he can still win Wimbledon, but I have my doubts about that as well. So no TMS titles so far. If Nadal wins here, he'll have 3. Such a sad fall from grace for Rogi. Everyone was touting him the best of all time BEFORE had had a chance to accomplish very much

Oh come on...:rolleyes:

That's such a "shock, horror" kneejerk reaction. The guy is human. It's too soon to talk about slumps, downfalls.

Kolya
05-10-2007, 03:26 PM
OMFG, Mediter called the win and everyone was giving him shit for it.

Horatio Caine
05-10-2007, 03:28 PM
At this rate he'll probably lose early at Hamburg as well. :tape:

Congrats to Pippo, what a scalp. :bowdown:

Rogi http://wai-off-topic.com/forum/images/smilies/spank.gif :smash: :o :hug:

Slow clay will probably favour him even less :tape:

asotgod
05-10-2007, 03:28 PM
Federer made about 3 UE per GAME in this match. I haven't seen him play this poorly since maybe 2002 and even then he didn't hit as weakly as he did in this match.

It was not a matter of playing poorly but playing stupid. He needs to get rid of Roche definitely and get someone to help with his game. He is not making any improvements despite all the hype about him making them. His reputation so far has brought him the wins he had not Roche. He was winning before Roche and has gone from bad to worse through time with Roche. How the hell dont they watch videos to see how he is struggling covering his forehand side? He just does not recover to that side well at all. That problem was always there but its so much exposed now, it's no joke. What's up with trying to moonball everything as well?

Federer has left the game that brought him to limelight and is playing a very stupid game. He should blame himself for that crap. I bet he could have beaten Canas and Nadal on clay if he had been able to recover to that forehand side. Very terrible. It's becoming the end for him and quite quickly.

azmad_88
05-10-2007, 03:29 PM
i have a feeling he wants hamburg more than rome..

because federer is a great champion and he will win next week if nadal is not playing i think

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:30 PM
Oh come on...:rolleyes:

That's such a "shock, horror" kneejerk reaction. The guy is human. It's too soon to talk about slumps, downfalls.


federer's being judged by his standards so expect people to go all nutty every time he does a human thing and actually lose a match!

asotgod
05-10-2007, 03:31 PM
Oh come on...:rolleyes:

That's such a "shock, horror" kneejerk reaction. The guy is human. It's too soon to talk about slumps, downfalls.

This is not a slump. This is playing stupid. He has left the strategy that brought him success. That forehand is not the best at all at the moment. If he is properly positioned, then yes but when pushed wide there, he is as useless as they come. Same strategy in his defeats time after time and putting too much topspin in his shots.

spriwi
05-10-2007, 03:33 PM
:eek: amazingly erratic performance for roger ...

nadal is coming closer and closer:devil: only 2100 points in the ranking if he wins rome;)

Scotso
05-10-2007, 03:33 PM
Filippo :worship:

maria87
05-10-2007, 03:34 PM
yes, but i hope another young as Djokovic could soon be raising an raising in the ranking, i like more his game than nadal's

nhissan
05-10-2007, 03:35 PM
Fed need a coach a real coach :o

maria87
05-10-2007, 03:35 PM
:eek: amazingly erratic performance for roger ...

nadal is coming closer and closer:devil: only 2100 points in the ranking if he wins rome;)

yes, but i hope another young as Djokovic could soon be raising an raising in the ranking, i like more his game than nadal's

eggtree
05-10-2007, 03:36 PM
it seems that he's mindless.:rolleyes:
Don't know why he has changed his game so much.
can he play exactly what he plays on the hard court or grass?
it served him right today.:o

Vamos Rafa#1
05-10-2007, 03:38 PM
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/b2/fullj.getty-74073037cb001_atp_rome_10_21_08_am.jpg

tennis2tennis
05-10-2007, 03:40 PM
It was not a matter of playing poorly but playing stupid.
c'mon the mans forehand and unforced errors was of the radar, as a Federer fan I actually wish he played stupid that'd be easy to sort out, but he got the basics wrong!

Pfloyd
05-10-2007, 03:41 PM
Some of you people are really stupid.

Seriously. Federer is in the slump that will determine the rest of his career??

Please. Pathetic reasoning. We all already knew that clay is not Federer's favorite surface. In fact, if you look at it from a carreer span, last years clay court results for Federer were a bit suprising. It just so happens that if Federer is on a bad day (as was the case today), he is MUCH more vulnerable. His shotmaking is restricted by the clay....his serve is not as strong as it is on HC.

Wait for the rest of the season to come before making these types of comments.

Give the champion the respect he deserves.

Everybody goes through bad moments, and I guess this is a reminder that Federer is, in fact, HUMAN.

Shame on (some of) you.

nouf
05-10-2007, 03:41 PM
MATCH FEDERER VS VOLANDRI ROME 2007
http://www.tatiana-golovin.fr/TMS_rome2007.php

Kenny
05-10-2007, 03:43 PM
dayum... lmao

moon language
05-10-2007, 03:46 PM
Anyone have money on Volandri? I bet some brave soul made some big money.

Naranoc
05-10-2007, 03:46 PM
:o

From the general gist, it seems to have been a diabolical display by Federer. Pippo :yeah:

Kolya
05-10-2007, 03:47 PM
LMAO, but it was a good call.

Sunset of Age
05-10-2007, 03:47 PM
So? Why should we worship a troll just because his prediction of an unlikely loss which was purely made to stir up trouble actually came true? If it hadn't come true he'd still be a troll; right now he's just a troll who guessed correctly once.

:yeah:

Thanks J'torian. Just what I needed.

Xristos
05-10-2007, 03:49 PM
What the fuck just happened?

Byrd
05-10-2007, 03:53 PM
Also where was Plan B today, seriously, if your baseline play has gone down the toilet, why don't you try serve & volleying, at least it wouldn't hurt. He comes across a bit stubborn sometimes.

SBruguera
05-10-2007, 03:54 PM
Who said the clay season was too predictable?
:mad:

LeChuck
05-10-2007, 03:55 PM
Forza Pippo :worship: . He really has had a fantastic week so far.
Pathetic from Federer. Volandri is one of the slowest servers on the tour. On clay, Federer should be able break him at will and certainly more than once. His own service stats were horrendous, not to mentioned his 12 winners to 44 unforced errors ratio :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
05-10-2007, 03:56 PM
What the fuck just happened?

Roger: :timebomb:

Without meaning to downgrade Pipo's playing and/or result, I guess that sums it up completely. :sad:

Allez
05-10-2007, 03:56 PM
you are :retard: The guy has 10 slams, 47 titles and #1 for three+ years and you say he hasn't had a chance to accomplish very much?

Obviously he's in a serious slump right now (or something is wrong that no one knows about), but the year's not over and he has time to recover. Get a grip! :rolleyes:

No he has not accomplished much to be considered the greatest player of all time. Do not take what I said out of context. That is really childish. Those stats you've posted don't even begin to come close to what previous greats accomplished and you know it. All I'm saying is that everyone was quick to jump on the bandwagon of proclaiming him an all time great BEFORE he had a chance to

win more than 14 slams
win more than 105 titles
finish the year ranked number 1 for more than 6 years
win all the grand slams

That's all I'm saying. Nothing more and nothing less. Stop inventing things. If you want to be angry be angry @ Rogi not me.

sawan66278
05-10-2007, 03:57 PM
Roger fans should NOT panic...remember Pete when he won the U.S. Open the final time? He looked HORRIBLE going in...and everyone gave him no chance...and we know how that turned out...

nobama
05-10-2007, 03:58 PM
No he has not accomplished much to be considered the greatest player of all time. Do not take what I said out of context. That is really childish. Those stats you've posted don't even begin to come close to what previous greats accomplished and you know it. All I'm saying is that everyone was quick to jump on the bandwagon of proclaiming him an all time great BEFORE he had a chance to

win more than 14 slams
win more than 105 titles
finish the year ranked number 1 for more than 6 years
win all the grand slams

That's all I'm saying. Nothing more and nothing less. Stop inventing things. If you want to be angry be angry @ Rogi not me.I never said anything about GOAT. But to suggest he's not one of the greats with those stats is BS. What you just listed there is your qualifications for GOAT.

onewoman74
05-10-2007, 03:59 PM
I think Fed is caught up in the GOAT hype. Why is he participating in all these exos and playing Sampras at the end of the year. What the fuck is trying to prove? Just play your tennis and don't stop worrying about your damn legacy.
He needs to improve his net play, PRONTO!

rue
05-10-2007, 03:59 PM
Whats up with Federer these days? He seems to be in a bit of a slump right now.

Experimentee
05-10-2007, 03:59 PM
Wow. Fed's worst loss since he won Wimbledon for the first time.

Saumon
05-10-2007, 04:01 PM
Just a thought:

Has anyone else wondered if the fact that Roger's had a LOT less match play than normal since Dubai has had an effect on his forehand and his consistency? I'm wondering if this is a vicious cycle thing where losing early = less match play; less match play = less consistency; less consistency = more early losses.

Just tossing that out there; I'm wondering what other people think.

it's the end of the Fed-era :shrug: (<-- lame pun :o )

asotgod
05-10-2007, 04:01 PM
c'mon the mans forehand and unforced errors was of the radar, as a Federer fan I actually wish he played stupid that'd be easy to sort out, but he got the basics wrong!

I still insist he played stupid. He has always had the weakness of recovery well to the forehand side but it's gotten worse. That's why the forehand errors have piled up. He gets to the ball but does not do anything meaningful or sensible with it. Watch the match again, watch the match against Nadal, against Safin and see the similarities.

I am not pointing this out because of this loss but because he has exposed himself on that lane too much now. He is trying to act superhuman when pushed wide on the forehand. He wants to go up the line with spin but either misses it just barely or into the net. Even when he makes it, the ball has so much topspin on it that a strong two-hander can attack easily. That's the reason for almost all his losses this year. If he had recovered well to the forehand side, he would have at worst placed himself in a neutral position again in the rallies.

Federer of 2004 and earlier does not hit with so much topspin. He has changed his game so radically that the things which can work on any surface are gradually getting nonexistent. His margin for error before was good enough as in that of 2004. But year after year, he has gone into hitting with more top and suffering for hit against players, especially Nadal. He is doing what Roddick began to do which affected his whole game and is also down that road.

He has lost the small amount of 'head' he has. He cannot concentrate well enough on the important points. On break points, how many times this year can we count how many easy returns he dumped into the net or making an unforced error of an easy forehand or backhand? If you cant win big points, you dont deserve to be #1. Through time it is beginning to show and until he learns to harness his energy right on those points, he will keep going down.

Allez
05-10-2007, 04:02 PM
Oh come on...:rolleyes:

That's such a "shock, horror" kneejerk reaction. The guy is human. It's too soon to talk about slumps, downfalls.

I would believe what you're saying if you weren't such an anti-fed rafatad. I find it amusing that it is you who is singing Roger's praises every time he loses :o The insincerity and the hidden glee in your posts in not that hard to discern :rolleyes:

RsaibotD
05-10-2007, 04:03 PM
Congrats Pippo!!!!

aramis
05-10-2007, 04:04 PM
What the heck is happening in Rome?

nobama
05-10-2007, 04:07 PM
I think Fed is caught up in the GOAT hype. Why is he participating in all these exos and playing Sampras at the end of the year. What the fuck is trying to prove? Just play your tennis and don't stop worrying about your damn legacy.
He needs to improve his net play, PRONTO!His net play is not the problem. It's everything else.

sykotique
05-10-2007, 04:07 PM
Who said the clay season was too predictable?
:mad:

Guilty.


Hmmm...not quite sure what to say. This is easily Federer's worst loss in years. And it's not explainable, really. Fed has always had "explainable" losses, if you know what I mean. But a loss to a guy like Volandri, even if it is on clay (and relatively fast clay at that), can't be any good for his confidence.


Not writing the guy off just yet, I mean he DID win the only Slam for the year thus far without losing a set (without even coming close to losing a set really), but I just wonder if that wasn't his absolute peak...I'm trying not to get ahead of myself and say "he could be in decline" but certainly Fed has not lost this bad to someone of Pippo's calibre since...well, since he started dominating the sport.


Congrats to Volandri, who becomes the first player in 2 years to beat Federer on clay, other than Nadal. Obviously the home support didn't hurt. Forza.

GlennMirnyi
05-10-2007, 04:09 PM
And people here complained when I said that it was Federer who struggled in the Canas matches, rather than Canas playing amazing.

Federer has stunk since Dubai. It's just a fact.

True.

This really feels the end of Roger's total dominance of the tour right now, even in 2004 he had 4 defeats in a year:tape: We aren't even in the middle of the season and he already got 4, wtf happened to his game:tape:!!!

Stop panicking, bunch of sissies.

I'm afraid that the time where Fed dominated tennis is officialy over.

Another sissy-girl.

Federer is a very stupid guy. Just a lot of skills but no head. Like Nadal and Davydenko have said for a while and which this match shows again, he does not like slow serves at all and does nothing with them. Volandri just spun in slow serves and Federer just clearly could not do anything with them. He was constantly trying to hit high with no progress. Very stupid. I dont know who stated that hitting high was a recipe for success on clay. He needs to work on his weakness and get rid of Roche. In all honesty, I have not seen any impact of Roche on his game despite all the cry of improving his second serve, volley and what not. He is getting worse day after day.

If he really wants to keep winning slams, he has a lot of work to do. Too many weaknesses.

1. No head - no need to explain
2. Stop covering the backhand. He just cannot recover to the forehand side at all. Safin did it against him, Nalby does, particularly Nadal time and time again. Nadal goes wide to his forehand and then Fed hits an error on the next shot. That has worked time after time. In fact, I think it has been a very valuable strategy more than hitting to his backhand. The backhand even when bad was not creating the stupid effect the useless forehand now is creating. Just no recovery to the forehand side. Once the ball is hit flat and away or spun off with pace towards his forehand wide, he gets to the ball but either dumps into the net or just hits an error. He needs to go crosscourt short at least enough for recovery instead of the crap he has been doing.

3. Returns - he has a very terrible slow serve return and this has nothing to do with clay. Hardcourts obviously cover up this for him a lot but he has even been exposed by Canas twice as well. When an opponent his a slow second serve, Federer stupidly just tries to hit hard and deep, sometimes with height which does not make any sense at all. Here are balls that should be hit, IMO, at medium pace with more angle generated to force the opponent to have to react. Tennis has always been a game of placement. I dont know why he has forgotten that. All the crappy baseline long games he is beginning to play does not make any sense. Before, he plays with a lot of angles. Now, no angles. Just long and deep, long and deep. No sense. Also, I dont know who told him the slice cannot be effective on this surface. He should use the slice and stop trying to play from so far back on the clay court when returning.

4. Work on his serve. All those crappy variations to his first serve have done him no good. He needs to work on that as that and his forehand really brought him to limelight not that stupid backhand which he is trying to show off. He is leaving his strengths and playing another game to try to win. Does not make any sense.


If he does not make this adjustments, he is definitely going down this year and permanently.

Shut up. Nobody wins 10 GS without game intelligence. Stop with this :bs: as if you knew what you're talking about. You obviously don't.

GlennMirnyi
05-10-2007, 04:09 PM
As my official word about it:

- Federer, what a joke!!!!!!

The_Nadal_effect
05-10-2007, 04:10 PM
:eek: Too much breaking news for a single day :( ! First...the Nadal hospitalization, then the Roger loss at about the same time. Then, the surprising Nadal recovery :lol:. All this makes for a great story if not great tennis.

:rolleyes: This is childish stuff from Roger. I didn't see the match. Can anyone tell me how he lost? Did he actually play bad or was Volandri all over him like Canas and Nadal (by grinding).

If 'grinding', is going to become Roger's general weakness, any Tom, Dick or Volandri might get the better of him. I hope thats not the case.


I think it's official now: Rogi is in a true, undisputed SLUMP. :hug:

I seriously hope this is not a slump. To me, it appears something similar to Rafael's study of himself during that so-called slump since Wimbledon last year. Perhaps, Fed is trying to unlearn and relearn a few things about tennis to better himself for RG. Knowing his famous desire to get the coveted Cup Of Clay, I wouldn't be surprised if he is indeed doing so. Besides, I dont want to know that he's lost it. I seriously dont want to know that someone who set a paradigm for perfection in sports for all to follow, is actually drowning well before his dusk.


That's such a "shock, horror" kneejerk reaction. The guy is human. It's too soon to talk about slumps, downfalls.

I hope its true. If something seriously affects the greatness of Fed or Nadal and they reduce to the level of cyphers; then, tennis will be the greatest loser.

W!MBLEDON
05-10-2007, 04:12 PM
Full marks to Volandri. Although Federer played absolutely disgracefully, Volandri still took every opportunity and it payed dividends. I really hope he beats Berdych in the next round. I must say, Volandri beating Federer, Starace beating Calleri, Bracciali putting up a VERY good fight against Nadal (and they're only results of the top of my head!) ... It's Italian Week. :yeah:

Caerula Sanguis
05-10-2007, 04:12 PM
Seems like he wanna play in Hamburg this year ~~

gusman890
05-10-2007, 04:12 PM
oh roger...:haha:

The_Nadal_effect
05-10-2007, 04:14 PM
What the heck is happening in Rome?

Ziggakly my point!:confused:

Now I'd like to think that Colon has something to do with it. Can't we spray it off or something?

Sunset of Age
05-10-2007, 04:15 PM
I seriously hope this is not a slump. To me, it appears something similar to Rafael's study of himself during that so-called slump since Wimbledon last year. Perhaps, Fed is trying to unlearn and relearn a few things about tennis to better himself for RG. Knowing his famous desire to get the coveted Cup Of Clay, I wouldn't be surprised if he is indeed doing so. Besides, I dont want to know that he's lost it. I seriously dont want to know that someone who set a paradigm for perfection in sports for all to follow, is actually drowning well before his dusk.

I really hope you're right. But I can't conclude anything else than that Rogi's been playing very poor since the AO - with the exception of one or two matches, perhaps. Like some others already said, it resembles the 'Roddick-effect': trying to adjust your game to beat ONE player - ending up with losing from everybody else.

I so want to know what's going on with Rogi. Can't wait for his presser.

Hendu
05-10-2007, 04:15 PM
:eek: Too much breaking news for a single day :( ! First...the Nadal hospitalization, then the Roger loss at about the same time. Then, the surprising Nadal recovery :lol:. All this makes for a great story if not great tennis.

:rolleyes: This is childish stuff from Roger. I didn't see the match. Can anyone tell me how he lost? Did he actually play bad or was Volandri all over him like Canas and Nadal (by grinding).

If 'grinding', is going to become Roger's general weakness, any Tom, Dick or Volandri might get the better of him. I hope thats not the case.

Volandri has never been a defensive player, and today it wasn't an exception.

asotgod
05-10-2007, 04:15 PM
True.



Stop panicking, bunch of sissies.



Another sissy-girl.



Shut up. Nobody wins 10 GS without game intelligence. Stop with this :bs: as if you knew what you're talking about. You obviously don't.

Yeah you shut up. Nobody wins 10 GS without game intelligence but intelligence cannot just be claimed when it is not implemented during game play. Added to that is the fact that Federer has too many tools in his arsenal which does help when trying to win 10 GSs. You cut the BS as well.

D Optimist
05-10-2007, 04:16 PM
Why Federer want to play on the clay ?

Allez
05-10-2007, 04:16 PM
I never said anything about GOAT. But to suggest he's not one of the greats with those stats is BS. What you just listed there is your qualifications for GOAT.

But I did. So if you were responding to my post you should have read the whole damn thing instead of quoting a single line out of context. He is one of the all time greats, I never disputed that. You're insinuating that I did which is quite ridiculous. It was unfair for him to be saddled with so much hype and expectation. I hope these loses put things back into perspective. There's still a lot of work to be done before he can earn the right of being considered the GOAT. A lot of work.

Tom Paulman
05-10-2007, 04:18 PM
The funniest thing is that Volandri lost to Guga earlier this year :lol:

GlennMirnyi
05-10-2007, 04:18 PM
Yeah you shut up. Nobody wins 10 GS without game intelligence but intelligence cannot just be claimed when it is not implemented during game play. Added to that is the fact that Federer has too many tools in his arsenal which does help when trying to win 10 GSs. You cut the BS as well.

:retard:

Federer loses a couple matches and some sissies like you start predicting his demise. Get a clue about it. Federer is playing like he has always played. He's just without much confidence right now. It will return and he'll start winning again.

alfonsojose
05-10-2007, 04:18 PM
Keep playing arrogant exos, JesusFed :tape:

rmb6687
05-10-2007, 04:20 PM
wow. I giggled a little bit when i saw the thread title. That being said, i don't think this is indicative of a larger problem, or evidence of any measurable slump, but it still makes me a little happy.

The only thing that could blow this entire week out of the water is if rafa loses in the final....to volandri. Ah!

Hendu
05-10-2007, 04:23 PM
Why Federer want to play on the clay ?

there should be some kind of filter in the registration process of MTF...

sykotique
05-10-2007, 04:24 PM
Truthfully, when you think about it, after a year like 2006, anything else would have constituted a decline. Like Fed said at the beginning of the year, the only way he could possibly improve was win everything and that was never going to happen.


I wouldn't say he's done far, not by a long shot. The gap between him and others on grass is still enormous enough for him to win Wimbledon.

Iza
05-10-2007, 04:24 PM
terrible display by Fed :tape: Pippo played with hunger and desire and didn't choke it so good job :yeah: he might get a notmination for the may bandwagon player :lol: ;)

onewoman74
05-10-2007, 04:25 PM
His net play is not the problem. It's everything else.

Something if off about him...what is the problem? The man can lose matches...it's the WHO he loses the matches to. I'm really shocked by this result.

silverwhite
05-10-2007, 04:25 PM
I wonder if Roger has become a bit too obsessed about beating Nadal. After the MC final, he sourced for a left-handed hitting partner and instructed him to play as similarly to Nadal as he could. Not saying he's underestimating his other opponents but that he might be losing a bit of focus when it comes to playing them.

User id 7816
05-10-2007, 04:25 PM
didnt watch it, but if Fed plays with the same half-serious attitude like he did in his doubles match, I can for real see him going down like this to a pumped up king-of-serves Volandri ;) ....and besides I dont see what Fed could gain from losing once more to Rafa on the clay, sadly for him and those who are wishing he'd win RG :shrug:

Deea
05-10-2007, 04:26 PM
:spit: Wow :eek:...just wow...:rolls: there are a lot of weird things happening this year in Rome :p

Fedexex
05-10-2007, 04:26 PM
Roger:haha::sobbing:

Merton
05-10-2007, 04:27 PM
Just a horrible day at the office for Roger, he broke the massive Volandri serve just once, enough said. Volandri was solid enough to win, credit to him.

Merton
05-10-2007, 04:29 PM
The over-reaction here is funny, Roger deserves some respect. Since the demise of every player is inevitable, predicting the fall after every loss will inevitably be right eventually. That doesn't mean it is not a silly prediction.

Joyce_23
05-10-2007, 04:29 PM
You go away for a couple of hours and this happens! I had to check the result twice...This may be a shock but I kinda like shock results. Besides, I still think this is all part of Feds masterplan to take RG. Make them all think you're in a slump and wham! Take the title! That or he has lost it. :lol:

omega
05-10-2007, 04:30 PM
wow :eek:

The_Nadal_effect
05-10-2007, 04:33 PM
I really hope you're right. But I can't conclude anything else than that Rogi's been playing very poor since the AO - with the exception of one or two matches, perhaps. Like some others already said, it resembles the 'Roddick-effect': trying to adjust your game to beat ONE player - ending up with losing from everybody else.

I so want to know what's going on with Rogi. Can't wait for his presser.

What you basically mean is that Rogi's tied a leash around his own neck and is now struggling to remove it, eh? That could be the case, such is his desire to get RG.

The only good that comes out of this match is that we know who the MTF bandwagon player of the month is! :lol:

mediter
05-10-2007, 04:37 PM
So? Why should we worship a troll just because his prediction of an unlikely loss which was purely made to stir up trouble actually came true? If it hadn't come true he'd still be a troll; right now he's just a troll who guessed correctly once.

Let me put the simple fact before you. I WAS RIGHT.Live with that you SOB.
:haha:

shtexas
05-10-2007, 04:41 PM
I watched it. I like Volandri, and he put together some nice points. I hate to take any credit away from him for this huge win. But, seriously, he really doesn't have anything to hurt Roger. It was obvious from the start that Roger was off. He missed easy shots. He moved poorly. Even when he had time, he missed.

Rogiman
05-10-2007, 04:42 PM
I'm not sure there's anything that can be said after this.

I want it to be grass season now. This was a COMPLETE mess.And what makes you think he'd do better on grass?

A slump is a slump.

The_Nadal_effect
05-10-2007, 04:43 PM
The over-reaction here is funny, Roger deserves some respect. Since the demise of every player is inevitable, predicting the fall after every loss will inevitably be right eventually. That doesn't mean it is not a silly prediction.

Hey, isn't that Murphy's law?

WIKIPEDIA:
Murphy's law is a popular adage in Western culture that broadly states that things will go wrong in any given situation, if you give them a chance. "If there's more than one possible outcome of a job or task, and one of those outcomes will result in disaster or an undesirable consequence, then somebody will do it that way." It is most often cited as "Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong" (or, alternately, "Whatever can go wrong will go wrong, and at the worst possible time," or, "Anything that can go wrong, will," or even, "If anything can go wrong, it will, and usually at the most inopportune moment"). The saying is sometimes referred to as Sod's law. Finagle's law, which can also be rendered as "Anything that can go wrong, will—at the worst possible moment".

aLL I cAN conCLOODe is thAT THINgs aRd nOT alWAYS in OUR hanDS, evEN if THeY seeM thAT waY.:drink: Hic :drink:

I hate this emoticon but this is what Roma is doing to my forma::smash:

r2473
05-10-2007, 04:45 PM
Even Sampras could play better than this on clay...

Federer was THAT bad!!!

swissfed
05-10-2007, 04:49 PM
So, even a battered ship has 3 catties of iron nails. I believe he won't be sunk so easily. Columbus's fleet was nearly destroyed in the gales of the atlantic but with perseverence the crew made themselves the heroes discovering the new continent. hey o~ let's move on and blow up everything blocking his way. He'll attain maturity in the course of such a straining pursuit.

Hendu
05-10-2007, 04:49 PM
Federer was THAT bad!!!

Sampras did pretty well in Rome, didn't he?

dylan24
05-10-2007, 04:50 PM
wow fedex gets ***** by the italian stallion

r2473
05-10-2007, 04:51 PM
Let me put the simple fact before you. I WAS RIGHT.Live with that you SOB.
:haha:

OK, maybe this guy is a troll from another message board. But, just about his first post here (at least under the "mediter" account) was "the prediction of the year" so far.

Hey, even a blind squirrel........

scarecrows
05-10-2007, 04:52 PM
a great win for Volandri, finally some confidence for that poor soul

Federer is in the biggest slump of his career, i doubt he can be able to hold no. 1 spot if he continues like that

GlennMirnyi
05-10-2007, 04:54 PM
Sampras did pretty well in Rome, didn't he?

Sampras did well everywhere.

LefandePatty
05-10-2007, 04:58 PM
:help:.

tangerine_dream
05-10-2007, 04:58 PM
I wonder if Roger is making the same mistake Roddick made by focusing so much on one thing that he's now starting to lose sight of what's going on around him?

Shabazza
05-10-2007, 05:00 PM
Let me put the simple fact before you. I WAS RIGHT.Live with that you SOB.
:haha:

Nice to see you proving J'torian's point. :yeah:

W!MBLEDON
05-10-2007, 05:02 PM
wow fedex gets ***** by the italian stallion

ew

Bilbo
05-10-2007, 05:03 PM
told ya federer's career is going down since AO 2007. some people didn't believe that when i said it. federer's dominance won't be that high like in the past years from now on. needless to say that he will never win roland garros in his life.

GlennMirnyi
05-10-2007, 05:03 PM
Troll prediction logic:

Youzhy will beat Nadal
Simon will beat Boredo
Starace will beat Davydenko

So you say a bunch of :bs: and if, by luck, something like that happens, the troll goes and quotes himself like this:

Originally posted by Troll:
"Simon will beat Boredo"

;)

Chris Seahorse
05-10-2007, 05:10 PM
Sampras did well everywhere.

Monte Carlo? :angel:

GlennMirnyi
05-10-2007, 05:11 PM
Monte Carlo? :angel:

Who cares about MC? Isn't it going to be extincted?

Merton
05-10-2007, 05:11 PM
Troll prediction logic:

Youzhy will beat Nadal
Simon will beat Boredo
Starace will beat Davydenko

So you say a bunch of :bs: and if, by luck, something like that happens, the troll goes and quotes himself like this:



;)

:haha: Well, there is the business of predicting the end of the world. Eventually it will happen, at the very latest when the sun becomes a red giant :lol:

Chris Seahorse
05-10-2007, 05:16 PM
Who cares about MC? Isn't it going to be extincted?

There are too many people on this board who can't admit they are wrong sometimes and don't understand that by once in a while saying "I got that wrong" they would have more respect not less. Oh well.

nobama
05-10-2007, 05:17 PM
I wonder if Roger is making the same mistake Roddick made by focusing so much on one thing that he's now starting to lose sight of what's going on around him?
It's weird that this question comes up now (not just by you) because it seems whenever he's playins anyone not named Nadal all the talk is about if whatever he's doing would work against Nadal. In the Almagro match the commentators kept harping on about how he's not coming to the net enough - because he'll need to do that against Nadal.

I just want him to go back to doing what he does best and if it's not enough to beat Nadal on clay so be it.

Castafiore
05-10-2007, 05:18 PM
I would believe what you're saying if you weren't such an anti-fed rafatad. I find it amusing that it is you who is singing Roger's praises every time he loses :o The insincerity and the hidden glee in your posts in not that hard to discern :rolleyes:
:lol:
Quite a rant there.

I'm not anti-fed and what is a rafatad anyway?
I don't need to hate the rivals of my favorite players. Others do perhaps but I don't. I admit that I'm not exactly a fan of Federer either but I respect him and I honestly don't dislike or hate him. If others don't believe that because of how they react to a loss, fine. That's their business.
I've been called a hypocrite for that but that's their problem.
Hidden glee? LOL You're projecting.
Besides, I'm just saying to you that it's too soon to talk of a real slump or a downfall. How is that singing his praises?
I don't even remember commenting after the two Canas losses. Maybe you've got me confused with somebody else in all your frustration.


But hey, if it makes you feel better to have a go at me, be my guest. I don't really care one bit whether you believe my sincerity, esp. with your MTF history in mind.

W!MBLEDON
05-10-2007, 05:19 PM
Exactly, mirkaland. He seems to be changing things up too much in an attempt to ready himself for Nadal, but wtf happened today?!

Eden
05-10-2007, 05:20 PM
Congrats to Volandri. He already troubled Rafa at the DC encounter between Italy and Spain and therefore I was a bit worried about the match against Roger. I didn't expected such a straight sets victory of course.

Roger :sad: It's a difficult time, but every great player has these experiences. We have been just too spoiled in the last years and took a few things for granted.

anon57
05-10-2007, 05:23 PM
It's weird that this question comes up now (not just by you) because it seems whenever he's playins anyone not named Nadal all the talk is about if whatever he's doing would work against Nadal. In the Almagro match the commentators kept harping on about how he's not coming to the net enough - because he'll need to do that against Nadal.

I just want him to go back to doing what he does best and if it's not enough to beat Nadal on clay so be it.

I completey agree with the bolded part, he's too obsessed I think with how to beat Nadal, and forgets that there's other guys he needs to go through before he gets to Nadal

The_Nadal_effect
05-10-2007, 05:25 PM
It's weird that this question comes up now (not just by you) because it seems whenever he's playins anyone not named Nadal all the talk is about if whatever he's doing would work against Nadal. In the Almagro match the commentators kept harping on about how he's not coming to the net enough - because he'll need to do that against Nadal.

I just want him to go back to doing what he does best and if it's not enough to beat Nadal on clay so be it.

Why Mirka? Dont you want to see him improve? He is after all, readjusting his game, no? And such re-adjustment does bring the outer performance down for a while.

sykotique
05-10-2007, 05:25 PM
Congrats to Volandri. He already troubled Rafa at the DC encounter between Italy and Spain and therefore I was a bit worried about the match against Roger. I didn't expected such a straight sets victory of course.

Roger :sad: It's a difficult time, but every great player has these experiences. We have been just too spoiled in the last years and took a few things for granted.

With numbers like 74-6, 81-4 and 92-5, he really can't give much more than he already has, I suppose. Sorta hard to grasp that he's human, I guess...lol.

No excuses, though. Every dog has his day and today, Volandri backed up his bark with his bite. Rome continues.

seanog
05-10-2007, 05:28 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: roger you are officialy most proberlly being laughed at right now by Rafa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Federer will NEVER win Roland Garros.As he showed today he just looks so lethargic and ''couldnt give a shit if i lose look''today,he has got to show grit and fight on court,like pipo or rafa.This man looks the shadow of the competitor he was back in 03,04,05,and 06.Get it together soon roger 44 unforced errors wont get the job done:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Bad Religion
05-10-2007, 05:29 PM
Super Pippo , capo laboro :worship:


Federer :haha:

cc2monac
05-10-2007, 05:36 PM
italians are doing realy great in italia!!! forzaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! we can all sing "ce l'abbiamo solo noi pippo! pippo!!!"

morningglory
05-10-2007, 05:40 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
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cherry@cupcake
05-10-2007, 05:41 PM
:eek:

What news to come home to!

Congrats to Volandri: it must feel great to claim this kind of win in front of a home crowd.

All the talk of Fed's reign coming to an end seems a little premature, though. This is a discussion best saved for the end of the season, I think: a discussion that comes, if possible, with troll'n'tard-filters.

Argenbrit
05-10-2007, 05:47 PM
Wooow. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Congrats to Volandri! :wavey:

yana
05-10-2007, 05:53 PM
What's happen with this guys?

Fed and probably Nadal going down the same day?

But I think I know why Fed lost: he was so worry about Nadal's medical problems that he coudn't concentrate. :p

Rafa = Fed Killa
05-10-2007, 05:57 PM
The Italian Spartan :worship: