ATP Master Series Hamburg : 11th May Day 3

What a day of upsets yesterday :

Nalbandian
Agassi

Anyway, let's move on ! :wavey:

Henman-Rusedski should b interesting later.
Both are cartoons on clay

Try this parlay :

FedEx x Coria (nothing is sure win ... :eek: )
FedEx x Coria x Henman x Soderling x Gonzalez x Gasquet x Lopez :eek:

hey no offense mate, but i take it you are one who doesnt believe in value? :lol:

what is that super parlay paying?

hey no offense mate, but i take it you are one who doesnt believe in value? :lol:

what is that super parlay paying?

The power of low odds, mate.
Safe.
Higher the odds (so called value bets), the riskier it is
$5k bet @ 1.22, still reap me almost $1k in profit later ;)

Nalbandian and Ferrer were low odds as well - so your theory doesnt work ;)

Nalbandian and Ferrer were low odds as well - so your theory doesnt work ;)

yes, agree, that's why i put a "no sure win" after the parlay but to me it's worth the risk :)

each to their own, good luck mate :)

My match of the day should be Mafia Safin Gas x JCF !!! :worship:
Cant wait :cool:

Singles on :

1) Henman over Rusedski
2) Soderling over Chela
3) Gonzalez over Ancic
4) Gasquet over Massu
5) Lopez over Volandri

:devil:

hey mate, get rid of pretty boy from youre second parlay, he is going down against volandri

volandri to beat lopez, special of the day

each to their own, good luck mate :)

Thanks, mate !
Best of luck 2 u 2
Hope we help each other win $, yeah ! :drink:

hey mate, get rid of pretty boy from youre second parlay, he is going down against volandri

volandri to beat lopez, special of the day

hmmmn, good luck with your value bet then, mate :D

hey no offense mate, but i take it you are one who doesnt believe in value? :lol:

what is that super parlay paying?

My value bet of the day :

Soderling over Chela :p

hmmmn, good luck with your value bet then, mate :D

2 reasons why I have to thank pretty boy. Firstly for saving me from a completely horrendous day yesterday and secondly for causing an over reaction in the market

I have now got him at $1.60 when it should be more like $1.20 or lower :D

Parlay for me as follows:

Volandri x Gasquet = $2.20

Firstly, just a few issues to tidy up from yesterday. Granted that Ferrer lost, he was not a bad bet. He is in good form but was simply upset on the day by an inconsistant and well rested Berdman. As for Nalbandian, if he wants to lose to Soderling on clay, he may as well become a linesweeper - that way he would be of more use to everbody.

back with tips shortly :p

PS. LOL @ anyone who backed Santoro yesterday ;)

Nalbandian and Ferrer were low odds as well - so your theory doesnt work ;)
but Canas was also at low odds :p

Thanks, mate !
Best of luck 2 u 2
Hope we help each other win $, yeah ! :drink:
and thats possible how?? when you bet against each other :retard:

I just hope there is no roof on the courts that Volandri and Chela are playing on.

why are people tipping Soderling to beat Chela? don't throw your money away

Puerta over Davydenko @ 1.87
Kuerten over Robredo @ 2.10
Gasuqet over Massu @ 1.55
Volandri over Lopez @ 1.70

Gonzalez x Fed x Ljubi x Coria x Gaudio x Gasquet x Canas @ 4.91

Can really not see Canas losing to Seppi based on class, recent form, and yesterday's performances.

and thats possible how?? when you bet against each other :retard:

maybe if he lays me pipo at better than evens he can help me, but not sure how I can help him :shrug:

why are people tipping Soderling to beat Chela? don't throw your money away

Chela hasn't been in great form at all, and if the weather is crap it helps the Toad especially if it's indoors.

Given if the conditions are normal then Chela should win, but the toad beat him on clay once though it was in Båstad where he plays well.

Seppi isn't that bad, but that shows how woeful he was that Schüttler got that close.

Puerta over Davydenko @ 1.87
Kuerten over Robredo @ 2.10
Gasuqet over Massu @ 1.55
Volandri over Lopez @ 1.70

Gonzalez x Fed x Ljubi x Coria x Gaudio x Gasquet x Canas @ 4.91

Can really not see Canas losing to Seppi based on class, recent form, and yesterday's performances.

To me Gaudio is a big question mark. I think it is a bit risky to parlay. Mate

but Canas was also at low odds :p

Most times, they will win ... safe bets.
Just one of those days , PMS , i guess , hehehe :eek:

why are people tipping Soderling to beat Chela? don't throw your money away


Then again, why are people tipping Volandri over Lopez ? :cool:

and thats possible how?? when you bet against each other :retard:


Overall win, not based on single bets :D

Puerta over Davydenko @ 1.87
Kuerten over Robredo @ 2.10
Gasuqet over Massu @ 1.55
Volandri over Lopez @ 1.70

Gonzalez x Fed x Ljubi x Coria x Gaudio x Gasquet x Canas @ 4.91

Can really not see Canas losing to Seppi based on class, recent form, and yesterday's performances.


where are you getting those odds for pipo and richie?

Then again, why are people tipping Volandri over Lopez ? :cool:


becuase it is a lock :cool:

becuase it is a lock :cool:

??? :confused:

To me Gaudio is a big question mark. I think it is a bit risky to parlay. Mate
lol... thanks for the concern mate, but its ok, I wont be putting the house on that parlay. Most of the players are simply in it out of respect (Fed, Coria the Snake, GG ...) :p

hey mate, get rid of pretty boy from youre second parlay, he is going down against volandri

volandri to beat lopez, special of the day

did u chk their H2H mate ? ;)

Chela hasn't been in great form at all, and if the weather is crap it helps the Toad especially if it's indoors.

Given if the conditions are normal then Chela should win, but the toad beat him on clay once though it was in Båstad where he plays well.

Seppi isn't that bad, but that shows how woeful he was that Schüttler got that close.
I know Seppi isn't too bad on the dirt, but I wasnt impressed when he lost last week after gaining the upper hand, and yesterday he served for the match in the 2nd set, before choking and strugging a lot in the 3rd. Schuettler had BP's at 4-4, but couldn't convert.

Canas is a solid top 20 player, it takes someone of note to knock him off generally.

money plays
Chela d Soderling - seems easy, almost toooooo easy :)
Massu d Flavor of the Month - Massu said he'd see results in 3 weeks upon return - it's been three and there's one, now two - I know I'm going against the board, so gl all
Crazy parlay is....Fed*Henman*Gros*Chela*Gonz*Vola
and for fun, the vchip special, Hrbaty d Step, because vbets are free!
Cheers all.

I have a question...how much should i consider a players last match when making a selection?..let me give you an example of what I mean...i am leaning towards Gasquet, but Massu is off a victory against Roddick...also I lean towards Chela, but Soderling was impressive yesterday against a good player....thanks in advance

imo, it's all about recent play - toss h2h out the window....example - Schuettler had a great year in 2003, same w/ Paradorn and they both would kill anyone betting on them this year...just my 2 cents, gl!

odds of Berdych @ pinnacle +1375, that ties fed v. zaba as far as the longest plus odds I've seen this year....not that anyone should touch that, just interesting...

Final Plays for me:

Single: Puerta to beat Davydenko - $1.80 (i'll take any opportuinity to fade my fav player :lol: )

Single: Volandri to beat Lopez - $1.62 (Special of the day)

Single: Monaco to beat Novak - $2.00

Parlay: Volandri x Henman x Coria x Gasquet - $2.75 (I actually tend to agree with dnumberone, gasquet v massu will be closer than some think, but I still can;t go past richie the money train)

good luck to all :cool:

where are you getting those odds for pipo and richie?
Betfair mate... for the odds to be more precise I should really deduct my commission rate... but who could be bothered :)

Correction on my above parlay, the value is now $2.68 thanks to henman's odds dropping :sad:

UPSET Mafia Inc Cream of da Day
===========================

Nicolas Kiefer

Gustavo KUERTEN (BRA) vs. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP)
Tim HENMAN (GBR) vs. Greg RUSEDSKI (GBR)

Kuerten is back to his peak after his injury period long ago. He played very well in his previous round and for Roberdo, he had JUST recover from a shoulder injury and still not in his peak and win luckily against Waska.

Gamebookers 1.85

Henman and Rusedski are country mate and under normal circumstance, anything can happen. They are team mate during the Davis cup last year and know each other very well. Both are very experienced player,not clay court specialist and both are playing serve and volley style and to me, the match is edge towards Rusedski. Rusedski definately has the upper edge in the serving part and he is definately not bad playing on clay court breaking Fededer once through statistic say otherwise.

Gamebookers 5.50

Gustavo KUERTEN (BRA) vs. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP)
Tim HENMAN (GBR) vs. Greg RUSEDSKI (GBR)

Kuerten is back to his peak after his injury period long ago. He played very well in his previous round and for Roberdo, he had JUST recover from a shoulder injury and still not in his peak and win luckily against Waska.

Gamebookers 1.85

Henman and Rusedski are country mate and under normal circumstance, anything can happen. They are team mate during the Davis cup last year and know each other very well. Both are very experienced player,not clay court specialist and both are playing serve and volley style and to me, the match is edge towards Rusedski. Rusedski definately has the upper edge in the serving part and he is definately not bad playing on clay court breaking Fededer once through statistic say otherwise.

Gamebookers 5.50
Rusedski over Henman on clay... that's some tip ;)

Puerta x Gonzalez @2.46
Hrbaty x Gasquet @2.91
Kiefer @2.52

I couldn't bet on Volandri :mad:

seems like on much the same as the rest of you.

Volandri over Lopez
Puerta over Davydenko
Gasquet over Massu

Only slight variations were

Kuerten over Robredo
Safin over JCF
Henman x Fed x Gonzo x Coria

I know Seppi isn't too bad on the dirt, but I wasnt impressed when he lost last week after gaining the upper hand, and yesterday he served for the match in the 2nd set, before choking and strugging a lot in the 3rd. Schuettler had BP's at 4-4, but couldn't convert.

Canas is a solid top 20 player, it takes someone of note to knock him off generally.

I would never expect Cañas to lose to Seppi at all.

The power of low odds, mate.
Safe.
Higher the odds (so called value bets), the riskier it is


Mate, a value bet isn't any bet with high odds.

A value bet is anything in which you think the bookies are paying more than they should do, hence it gives you 'value'.

:rolleyes:

I would never expect Cañas to lose to Seppi at all.
:)

:)

Well I like the poster that said tossed H2h out the window. Guga hadn't done anything yet he played Pavel and he won easily like he does all the time when they play.

If Cañas and Monaco meet in the next round I hope Monaco can win a game.

Some of these posts over the last cpl of days have been absolute corkers, it seems that some bloke thinks if there is a 'Head to Head' record in favour of one player, he is a lock :haha:

Tonights picks:

Volandri over Lopez ($1.60)
- Bookies have gone mad, should be $1.30 at the most

Puerta over Davydenko ($1.82)
- Another match which seems to be overpriced, i say pound it down!!

Gonzalez x Federer x Phoenix - ($1.85)

UPSET Mafia Inc Cream of da Day
===========================

Nicolas Kiefer

damn, I like your chances! :yeah: :smoke:

Mario is going to ge SPANKED today. Gonzo will school him all the way back to the elementary school. Also Grosjean over Kiwi...and Pipo over Feli. That's a good & safe parlay

the match is edge towards Rusedski. Rusedski definately has the upper edge in the serving part and he is definately not bad playing on clay court breaking Fededer once through statistic say otherwise.

You couldn't be any more wrong! ;) :haha:

The house goes with this :

Gasquet x Gonzalez (how safer can this parlay be ?) :worship:

My bonus wild card plays :

Soderling
Lopez

damn, I like your chances! :yeah: :smoke:
lol... i dont... grosjean will smoke him ;)

Some of these posts over the last cpl of days have been absolute corkers, it seems that some bloke thinks if there is a 'Head to Head' record in favour of one player, he is a lock :haha:

Tonights picks:

Volandri over Lopez ($1.60)
- Bookies have gone mad, should be $1.30 at the most

Puerta over Davydenko ($1.82)
- Another match which seems to be overpriced, i say pound it down!!

Gonzalez x Federer x Phoenix - ($1.85)

i reckon it's a bookie trap to make you think like that.
u think bookies are stupid to give higher odds on a sure win than usual ?
wake up !!!
J Lo all the way :D

The house goes with this :

Gasquet x Gonzalez (how safer can this parlay be ?) :worship:

My bonus wild card plays :

Soderling
Lopez
careful with Gasquet, Massu is no pushover ;)

what would today's upset be ??? :confused:

Berdych to oust FedEx ??? :p

The house goes with this :

Gasquet x Gonzalez (how safer can this parlay be ?) :worship:

My bonus wild card plays :

Soderling
Lopez

out of curiosity what does your username 36908 mean?

and i see I haven't been able to convince you out of the lopez pick

Taken: -

Gonzo x Fed x Ljubo x Coria x Canas @ 2.30

Gaudio x Gasquet x Grosjean @ 2.76

Kuerten @ 1.83

Volandri @ 1.61

careful with Gasquet, Massu is no pushover ;)

hmmm, dat means no parlay 4 me then :cool:

what would today's upset be ??? :confused:

Berdych to oust FedEx ??? :p
well according to you its pretty boy to beat pipo isn't it?

dude if you don't have one already could you please open up a betfair account? :)

i reckon it's a bookie trap to make you think like that.
u think bookies are stupid to give higher odds on a sure win than usual ?
wake up !!!
J Lo all the way :D
go away Santoro, get out of tennis. ;)

out of curiosity what does your username 36908 mean?

and i see I haven't been able to convince you out of the lopez pick


it's ok. good luck mate !
my nick ? get 2 asian underworld baddies to join forces, wat do u get ? :devil:

well according to you its pretty boy to beat pipo isn't it?

dude if you don't have one already could you please open up a betfair account? :)

i'm not familiar with the concept of "lay"ing the bets yet :p
sorry.

Are u whacking it all on Volandri then ? 60+% profit

go away Santoro, get out of tennis. ;)

To quote an example :

Odds for f Roddick win @ $1.40, remember ? against Massu
Look wat happen :mad:

go away Santoro, get out of tennis. ;)

i will .... IF Pretty Boy loses :worship: ;) :D

i will .... IF Pretty Boy loses :worship: ;) :D


i'm going to quote you on that tomorrow once the result is known

tennis85 and 36908, are you guys serious about your picks? or just trying to get high the odds of the favourites?!
or maybe you are agents of bookies?

To quote an example :

Odds for f Roddick win @ $1.40, remember ? against Massu
Look wat happen :mad:
thats not an example, I never bet on Roddick outright. :wavey:

thats not an example, I never bet on Roddick outright. :wavey:


not you, mate.
just an example, in a general sense

i'm going to quote you on that tomorrow once the result is known

500 on Pretty Boy (whom they said friends) @ 2.25

and I'm dead serious :cool:

Hrbaty @ 1.83

That''s all from me tonight :zzz:

terrible terrible night... chasing losses with 5k on Canas x Volandri @ 1.95... surely the favs have to start winning sooner or later :sad:.

volandri is a lock, who cares about canas :D

Volandriiiiiiiiiii baby.......bring it home, pweese!!!! Gonzo decided to join on the sightseeing with the agassis today and rest of this week so, I need you badly....

Hrbaty x Gasquet :banana:

Gonzo x Puerta :rolleyes:

come on Kiefer!

i'm going to quote you on that tomorrow once the result is known

Congrats !
Wish you handsome profits and best of luck
I'll take my cue now :worship: :worship: :worship:

i will .... IF Pretty Boy loses :worship: ;) :D


quoted and duly noted :cool:

terrible terrible night... chasing losses with 5k on Canas x Volandri @ 1.95... surely the favs have to start winning sooner or later :sad:.


ouch :sad:

Congrats !
Wish you handsome profits and best of luck
I'll take my cue now :worship: :worship: :worship:

Why did you think he'd win anyway?

possibly worst tennis night ever :sad:

worst day ever for me

possibly worst tennis night ever :sad:

sign of a great punter is how he rebounds

go get em today tiger ;)