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Federer def Seppi 7:6(4) 7:6 (6)

Andre♥
04-17-2007, 03:11 PM
Bad match from Federer...

He will need to improve a lot!

scarecrows
04-17-2007, 03:12 PM
how did Seppi play?

Andre♥
04-17-2007, 03:13 PM
how did Seppi play?

Insanely well! :eek:

keqtqiadv
04-17-2007, 03:13 PM
Seppi :eek: :worship:

Fedexex
04-17-2007, 03:14 PM
:eek:not good

Kitty de Sade
04-17-2007, 03:14 PM
Wow, Seppi played really well. Good to see..:yeah:

Glad that Fed gets the first match under his belt. 42 UE's- not good. Hope to see him step it up next time around. But a win is a win. :clap2:

MatchFederer
04-17-2007, 03:15 PM
87 - 81 total points won.. in Feds favour.

adee-gee
04-17-2007, 03:15 PM
Impressive from Federer :)

Or Levy
04-17-2007, 03:15 PM
Whatever abilities Seppi brought to the table, I'm glad they were absent when he let Dudi beat him two weeks ago.

But Roger, fucking hell!

jazar
04-17-2007, 03:16 PM
it was fed's first clay match of the season. surely no one expected him to completely blow seppi away/

Sunset of Age
04-17-2007, 03:16 PM
Seppi played very well, some amazing shots by him - not to forget, awesome fighting spirit!

Rogelio... yes, I know, a win is a win... but what a disappointing performance by him! Forehand: completely ABSENT. Terrible First Serve. Gazillions of UEs.
No RG-winning material, here...

He'll have a lot of work to do. With his game of today I don't even see him getting past Djoko, let alone Raf...

scarecrows
04-17-2007, 03:17 PM
Insanely well! :eek:

good for him

hopefully it's one of those lost matches that bring confidence

Apemant
04-17-2007, 03:18 PM
Insanely well! :eek:

Let's apply some logic here. IF Seppi played 'insanely well' (I didn't watch the match), THEN there's no way you can say that it was a poor display from Fed.

Last time I checked, to beat someone who plays 'insanely well', you need to play just as good, and a little better. :devil:

Samuel
04-17-2007, 03:19 PM
I didn't expect him to blow away seppi, but at least show more consitency. As soon as he had a break he got re-breaked. His serving game wasn't that bad otherwise. Therefore the two tie-breaks were deserved.
Anyway I'm glad to see him advance but he needs to improve and I'm sure he knows it too. :)

D Optimist
04-17-2007, 03:19 PM
Mr. Federer where is your game ? You are tired !
In your place I'll change the baby and make a big pause till Wimbledon ,somewhere ....

oschemi
04-17-2007, 03:22 PM
Seppi played very well, some amazing shots by him - not to forget, awesome fighting spirit!

Rogelio... yes, I know, a win is a win... but what a disappointing performance by him! Forehand: completely ABSENT. Terrible First Serve. Gazillions of UEs.
No RG-winning material, here...

He'll have a lot of work to do. With his game of today I don't even see him getting past Djoko, let alone Raf...

Cut him some slack pple, he will improve. I mean this is just his first match on clay. Chillax geeze:rolleyes:
And who is to say that Djokovic will even advance past Gaudio

the answer
04-17-2007, 03:23 PM
WOW what a crap performance from Roger, and wtf happened with his forehand I just don't get it :confused:

Andre♥
04-17-2007, 03:24 PM
Let's apply some logic here. IF Seppi played 'insanely well' (I didn't watch the match), THEN there's no way you can say that it was a poor display from Fed.

Last time I checked, to beat someone who plays 'insanely well', you need to play just as good, and a little better. :devil:

Seppi hit some great winners and troubled Federer a lot - Seppi played good

Federer hit 42 UE and was broken 3 times - Federer played horrible

scoobs
04-17-2007, 03:25 PM
Well he won so ultimately that's what matters.

Still a deeply unconvincing performance though - he'll be looking to get his timing a little more grooved next time out - fortunately against Hyung-Taik Lee he should get the opportunity to do just that.

neme6
04-17-2007, 03:27 PM
Fed made so many UE on his forehand, that's really unnusual

Byrd
04-17-2007, 03:28 PM
He needs more match practice, he hasn't played as many matches as hes wanted since Dubai.

Apemant
04-17-2007, 03:29 PM
Seppi hit some great winners and troubled Federer a lot - Seppi played good

Federer hit 42 UE and was broken 3 times - Federer played horrible

Umm... read your post again: Federer, who played horrible, defeated Seppi, who played good and hit some great winners.

How do you beat someone who plays good, by playing horribly? :scratch: There has to be something I'm missing here...

Yappa
04-17-2007, 03:30 PM
Umm... read your post again: Federer, who played horrible, defeated Seppi, who played good and hit some great winners.

How do you beat someone who plays good, by playing horribly? :scratch: There has to be something I'm missing here...

Compared to their usual level of play, of course.

Nice bh winner DTL from Seppi in the 2nd TB. Other than that, terrible match from Federer.

R.Federer
04-17-2007, 03:31 PM
Roger, well he's lucky not to play Canas in R2 HERE as well. So rusty.

Veronique
04-17-2007, 03:31 PM
Roger ripe for the picking and no Willy Canas in sight:(

Xristos
04-17-2007, 03:32 PM
A win is a win. BTW Feds backhand > forehand.

Sunset of Age
04-17-2007, 03:33 PM
Cut him some slack pple, he will improve. I mean this is just his first match on clay. Chillax geeze:rolleyes:
And who is to say that Djokovic will even advance past Gaudio

Did you actually watch the match? Rogi played downright *terrible*, just as the majority of people say here. And even when it concerns my favourite players, I will point out that fact if it's there.

Of course I hope he'll draw his conclusions from this match and raise his game level. I trust he will. ;)

Apemant
04-17-2007, 03:37 PM
Compared to their usual level of play, of course.

Naturally. I just wanted him to say it explicitly. It was 'horrible' for Fed's standards. But apparently, it's still good enough to beat an average player who plays 'insanely well'. :devil:

t0x
04-17-2007, 03:39 PM
It was his first match on clay... but very complacent play. He'd play a good game then a shocker to gift the break right back. To be fair, Seppi played brilliantly - best Ive seen him play, and he fought right to the end.

And Fed always plays total crap first few rounds of TMSs now... not just this year - look at Cincy and Canada (which he won despite playing crap). He needs time to get his timing good.

Burrow
04-17-2007, 03:41 PM
haha you are all acting like Seppi won the match

Apemant
04-17-2007, 03:42 PM
It was his first match on clay... but very complacent play. He'd play a good game then a shocker to gift the break right back. To be fair, Seppi played brilliantly - best Ive seen him play, and he fought right to the end.

Is this true? He didn't kind of choke and gifted both TB's to Fed? I didn't see the match but I'm interested about it. I don't mind Fed playing awful, because I know he can play good. But I do want to see him overcome his choking which happens when players just refuse to give up.

So, did Seppi choke in TB's? Or did Fed have to take them by force?

tennisgal_001
04-17-2007, 03:44 PM
His timing was off which caused him many problems, but it's the first match of the clay season so that was to be expected. Anyway, he still won in straights against an opponent who played reasonably well, it only gets better from there...

freesprint
04-17-2007, 03:44 PM
Roger play is :bs:.:help:

Voo de Mar
04-17-2007, 03:50 PM
In my opinion before the match Federer wanted to win 7-6 7-6 because he had lost two tie-breaks against Canas in a previous match. Two tie-break wins in a one match are good for Roger's confidence. I'm sure he wins something 6-3 6-2 against Hyung-Taik after much better performance.

Adler
04-17-2007, 03:55 PM
Come on, he should get us used to his "crappy" performance in first rounds. Last year he's had a 3 setter with a set lost 2:6. With HT Lee it will be like 7:5 6:3 I think

Champion number 1
04-17-2007, 03:56 PM
Seppi played a good match, hopefully it gives him confidence for the rest of the season, especially on clay.

Sunset of Age
04-17-2007, 04:00 PM
So, did Seppi choke in TB's? Or did Fed have to take them by force?

Seppi didn't choke at all, Fed had to take them by force, as you say. And I dare add that Fed even was a bit lucky at winning them both - especially the first one could've easily gone to Seppi.

So, indeed - Seppi deserves all our respect. He played great indeed.

Byrd
04-17-2007, 04:03 PM
To be honest, I had a feeling Seppi would prove a problem after beating the other qualifier 6/1 6/3 in R1.

explicit
04-17-2007, 04:05 PM
I couldn't watch the match but I am interested - was
Fed's game bad like really, really bad, or was it 'usually 1st/2nd round match' bad?

I mean, he still won in 2. Are you all sure you are not overreacting a bit? :shrug:

neme6
04-17-2007, 04:05 PM
the one thing that is good in this performance is that, even though Seppi played a really good match and Fed a crappy one, he still won, that's the way of a real champion!

Naide
04-17-2007, 04:07 PM
He won, no need to dramatize.

Sunset of Age
04-17-2007, 04:07 PM
I couldn't watch the match but I am interested - was
Fed's game bad like really, really bad, or was 'usually 1st/2nd round match' bad?

I mean, he still won in 2. Are you all sure you are not overreacting? :shrug:

You already said it yourself - you didn't watch the match ;)
Yep, he was BAD - IMHO worse than he usually is in 1st/2nd round matches.

But don't worry (I don't think you do ;)) - I trust that he'll be back on track real soon!

AnnaK_4ever
04-17-2007, 04:07 PM
There is something wrong with Roger's game. Poor, poor performance. And that forehand ... :tape:

t0x
04-17-2007, 04:10 PM
Is this true? He didn't kind of choke and gifted both TB's to Fed? I didn't see the match but I'm interested about it. I don't mind Fed playing awful, because I know he can play good. But I do want to see him overcome his choking which happens when players just refuse to give up.

So, did Seppi choke in TB's? Or did Fed have to take them by force?

Nahh Seppi never really looked like winning to be honest. Federer was the one who always a break or mini-break up. But Seppi just kept breaking back, and saved a match point with a brilliant passing shot. Credit to Seppi, he played very solid from the back and Federer couldn't find the mark half the time today.

GlennMirnyi
04-17-2007, 04:13 PM
A win is a win. BTW Feds backhand > forehand.

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Oh my!

bandabou
04-17-2007, 04:17 PM
a win is a win, I guess?? form still isn't there..

Voo de Mar
04-17-2007, 04:34 PM
7-6 7-6 against Seppi with a lot of mishits tells nothing about Federer's form. Last year he had for example 7-6 7-6 against Troicki (who is much worse player than Seppi) and later won the event. This year 7-6 3-6 6-3 against Pless in the 1st round of Dubai and then won rather comfortable SF & F over in form players like Haas and Youzhny.
This is simply Roger, he's a swindler like Ivanisevic in the past ;) I don't belive in poor Federer's form when he wins 7-6 7-6 or something like this against middling players. Last year he even won 7-6 6-4 in Dubai against Al Ghareeb (rank. 488 at that time) what was a real joke :wavey:

alfonsojose
04-17-2007, 05:01 PM
JesusFed :wavey: please, go back to 2002 form :tape:

LocoPorElTenis
04-17-2007, 05:11 PM
7-6 7-6 against Seppi with a lot of mishits tells nothing about Federer's form. Last year he had for example 7-6 7-6 against Troicki (who is much worse player than Seppi) and later won the event. This year 7-6 3-6 6-3 against Pless in the 1st round of Dubai and then won rather comfortable SF & F over in form players like Haas and Youzhny.
This is simply Roger, he's a swindler like Ivanisevic in the past ;) I don't belive in poor Federer's form when he wins 7-6 7-6 or something like this against middling players. Last year he even won 7-6 6-4 in Dubai against Al Ghareeb (rank. 488 at that time) what was a real joke :wavey:

Don't forget vs Suzuki in Tokyo (ranked around 1000, although not a "real" ranking because the guy only plays in Japan). Federer won 4-6 7-5 7-6(3) :eek: .

Voo de Mar
04-17-2007, 05:19 PM
Don't forget vs Suzuki in Tokyo (ranked around 1000, although not a "real" ranking because the guy only plays in Japan). Federer won 4-6 7-5 7-6(3) :eek: .

Of course, this is another example how Federer treats some matches against low-rank opponents. When you feel a huge advantage over your rival, you can modulate the final score with your fantasy. I think Roger does it sometimes.

Castafiore
04-17-2007, 05:20 PM
You know, Seppi is far from a bad player on clay.

A_Skywalker
04-17-2007, 05:20 PM
Seppi didnt play great at all as I read somewhere in the thread. He played descent. If there was other player he would have beaten Federer today.

tcorinna
04-17-2007, 05:34 PM
Unfortunatelly I couldn't watch the match :( but I am happy he won ... :wavey:

Better luck for the next round :) :wavey:

rosamunda
04-17-2007, 05:42 PM
I think the problem for poor Federer - and our reaction to a comparatively poor match - is that we have all come to expect superlative tennis from him every time he steps foot on the court. So when he doesn't produce flawless stuff, the contrast is very stark, and we start raising our hands in horror at such scrappy play. Indeed it's most frustrating to see him play so badly when you know he can play so wonderfully. He's sort of become a victim of his own success too - he plays somebody he's never played before and who's come through qualifying and Round 1 and who's therefore warmed up. He possibly knows little or nothing about that person's game, but that person will know all about his. No pressure on that person, all the pressure of the universe on him. He still played like a dog, but I can sort of understand why, especially as it's his first match on clay for yonks and he's hardly match-fit after his early exits in the last two tournaments. And, as others have said, he makes a habit of playing like cr*p in early rounds these days - that needs to change, please, not good for my blood pressure.

Eden
04-17-2007, 05:53 PM
Seppi didnt play great at all as I read somewhere in the thread. He played descent.

Other people mentioned that he played very well whilst Roger made too many unforced errors.


If there was other player he would have beaten Federer today.

That's useless speculation.

Roger always has problems with players he has never played before. It was his first match on clay this year, so of course he has to find his rhythm first.
He needs to play matches in order to get at full speed.

Voo de Mar
04-17-2007, 06:05 PM
Roger always has problems with players he has never played before. It was his first match on clay this year, so of course he has to find his rhythm first.


Thus is better for him to win 7-6 7-6 or 7-6 6-4 than 6-3 6-3 for example. Certainly this is only funny speculation but I think Roger today could win 6-3 6-3 in case of hypothetical situation "if you don't lose more than 6 games, you're Roland Garros champion 2007" :devil:

rrfnpump
04-17-2007, 06:24 PM
Andi :sad: :(
but good match

pistolmarat
04-17-2007, 07:08 PM
Andreas didn't play well especially in the first set, loads of ue's, same went for Fed.
Not a good match to watch, but Seppi didn't do nough to beat the Swiss. I'm glad Rogi is through, cause it's always tough to play your first match on a different surface - and we all know clay isn't his favourite court - plus the MC centre court is kinda hard, slow, low bounces and all.
But in this form the Goat's not gonna end up winning RG, that's for sure. He needs to improve fast.

mallorn
04-17-2007, 07:12 PM
Seppi played well and Roger didn't for the most part, but he won the points that matter and got some needed match practice against a solid opponent. He'll only get better, no doubt.
I think the problem for poor Federer - and our reaction to a comparatively poor match - is that we have all come to expect superlative tennis from him every time he steps foot on the court. So when he doesn't produce flawless stuff, the contrast is very stark, and we start raising our hands in horror at such scrappy play. Indeed it's most frustrating to see him play so badly when you know he can play so wonderfully.
True, the expectations are ridiculously high in Roger's case. I'm not surprised by this reaction of fans though when even his coach looked like he wanted to raise his hands in horror after one of the misses. Also, my commentator couldn't help himself at one point and actually exclaimed "Oh my god!!!" when Roger shanked a forehand. It was a funny slip but at the same time I thought - for crying out loud, so the guy is struggling, so what, give him a break.

Fergie
04-17-2007, 07:19 PM
Not the best match for Rogi :rolleyes:

Seppi! :worship:

LinkMage
04-17-2007, 08:53 PM
Ugh, Fed played horrible. I can't understand how he went from the best form of his life in the AO when he completely destroyed anyone in sight, to the poor form he has been showing since Dubai. I know he won Dubai, but he played pretty crappy there.

Today Nadal would have demolished Fed 6-1 6-2.

lunahielo
04-17-2007, 09:03 PM
Roger's forehand was off most of the match. He seemed to be snatching at the ball and not following through.
His balls were flying everywhere.
He won, but it was certainly not a pretty match in any way.
Too many errors.

Seppi played very well~~and he hung in there to the end.

ezekiel
04-17-2007, 09:16 PM
Good on Roger, I am watching a replay, nothing spectacular but I expect a great match on friday and nothing should stop that from happening or else :p

Marek.
04-17-2007, 09:28 PM
I'm surprised out how many people are surprised that he played horribly. He always plays horribly in the first round or two, not to mention the fact that it's his first match on clay. I have no doubt he'll raise his level with each round. If he doesn't, then we should start to worry (or celebrate depending on who you are.)

Or Levy
04-17-2007, 09:37 PM
Yes, the contrast between this and AO is glaring, isn't it? It wasn't that long ago.

All through AO I was expecting him to have a bad match, I remember I was sort of worried about Roddick, and he just killed everyone. After that I was ready to put money on the 'can he go undefeated' thread and then WAM.

I just watched the reply on TVU (shitty quality as it was a rerun, but it was enough to give me an idea), his facial expression's, never mind Roche's - said it all. Totally looks like a confidence thing, because his forehands are so off it's not even funny, he barely cracked a smile when the match was over. Poor Rogi.

Well, he should still have one match in which he can play crappy and still win, Djoko isn't going to be that easy, so Rog better find his form NOW.

As far as Seppi goes...well, I'm just glad we played the DC on hard court. He was great today, two weeks ago he couldn't string two points together.

gogogirl
04-17-2007, 10:43 PM
Hey All,

I said Roger would lose a few more this year than last - then I reiterated it recently to say that IMO - he'd lose no more than 6 or 7 matches. I still say that because for one - he has to play a certain amount of tourneys in order to win or lose. Roger has his schedule planned - surely. So - he might have a bad run - his form might not be all the way "Roger On", but he has the opportunity to improve. In some of the tourneys he's said he'd enter - he would be the clear favorite - but if he doesn't win in Monte Carlo - nor the French - then that will surely mess w/his confidence - and other players will know that they have a chance and will really go after Rog. Canas showed them all how he did it.

The above touches on the fact that the tour is getting deeper. Roger and Nadal was the mantra last year. That was the call. This year - it's not like that. Many players are willing to bring it - and mainly because - they believe. Safin's upsetter also upset James. Ivo beat James finally this year. Benne from France. Max last year. Monfils at the FO last year - and so on. The players that beat James - are also starting to beat other so-called toppers, except Monfils of course. Yet - he had an alright FO.

The present toppers have been after Roger "The Tiger's" tail for years now. Now these same players are getting their tails clocked by players that also want to get to the top and move the pretenders out of the way. Then - down the line - it'll be some more. It can get kind of crowded up there.

I don't mind the parity in the league. I think it is great for tennis. Toppers come and go. If that fact wasn't a fact - then there would be no need for two players to play the sport in order to win a/tennis match(s). No one can win them all - and especially, these days.

"MAY THE BEST PLAYER ON THE DAY WIN"

ChinoRios4Ever
04-17-2007, 11:53 PM
expected win by fed

Action Jackson
04-18-2007, 02:33 AM
Wow huge upset here.

Seppi played quite well and was more aggressive than he usually is. It's not like Fed was ever going to lose this match and overall Seppi has been in horrible form this year, but most people would forget this.

Played a poor volley in the 2nd set tiebreaker and Fed passed him and then won the match from there. I was happy with Seppi's performance, but as for Fed well I let the drama queens go on about his performance, he got the W and that's what counts.

guy in sf
04-18-2007, 03:13 AM
Can any player get the credit they deserve when they beat Federer or give him a very tough match? It seems to me that everytime Federer struggles the automatic conclusion is that he played bad as if his opponent had nothing to do with him playing bad. Usually one playing bad is an affect of the other playing well.

guy in sf
04-18-2007, 03:16 AM
expected win by fed

Thought we were over with retarded comments like this. Quotes like this is like forum pollution!

Merton
04-18-2007, 03:19 AM
Roger's timing seemed off, but nothing too worrisome for a 1st round match and the 1st match of the season on clay. Glad to see Seppi playing well, hopefully he can get some results later on.

W!MBLEDON
04-18-2007, 03:34 AM
You people need to chill out and stop making predictions based on his form in one match. :o I'm absolutely stunned that you would all think that he would DARE to carry this form into RG, or even, any difficult matches.

kobulingam
04-18-2007, 03:51 AM
Roger's timing seemed off, but nothing too worrisome for a 1st round match and the 1st match of the season on clay. Glad to see Seppi playing well, hopefully he can get some results later on.

Not just timing, but movement. He is not sliding crisply into his shots. He is still taking baby steps into shots at times (his natural bias towards grass court movement).

silverwhite
04-18-2007, 04:49 AM
Some people are overreacting. Seppi played really well and it was Roger's first match on clay.

Action Jackson
04-18-2007, 07:15 AM
Some people are overreacting. Seppi played really well and it was Roger's first match on clay.

Overreaction is the norm for GM.

Mateya
04-18-2007, 08:29 AM
Outstanding performance from Fed.

:devil:

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-18-2007, 09:15 AM
This Fed is good. :devil: