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Is anything wrong with Andy Murray?

Adler
04-16-2007, 05:50 PM
I've just seen the scoreboard and it says Murray duo's lost 1R doubles match because of retirement. I'm just wondering if it's because Andy's injured or is it Jamie?

NOTE: I'm not claiming that Jamie's injury would be less important, i'm just asking which of the bros suffers from something

JustJames
04-16-2007, 05:55 PM
Yes it was Andy that retired...

Apparently it's 'touch and go' whether he will play his singles match tomorrow, with the likely outcome being that he will not :sad:

I think he has injured either his groin or his back (second hand information... Lol.)

Kitty de Sade
04-16-2007, 05:59 PM
That's a pity if he's too hurt to play. Hope he gets better soon. Any updated information would be most appreciated if you find it.

bigbhoy
04-16-2007, 06:03 PM
It was first thought to be a back injury. However Sportinglife, has now said it's a foot injury.

Article (http://www.sportinglife.com/tennis/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=tennis/07/04/16/TENNIS_Monte_Carlo_Murrays.html)

pistolmarat
04-16-2007, 06:04 PM
That'd be a pitty, if Andy couldn't play his single match tomorrow.


EDIT:
A foot injury...Well, I wonder what part of his body will give him troubles next.:rolleyes:

scoobs
04-16-2007, 06:11 PM
They're still saying it's his back on his website.

There's not much info around at the moment though his participation in the singles is in some doubt now.

adee-gee
04-16-2007, 06:12 PM
M Fyrstenberg (POL) / M Matkowski (POL) d A Murray (GBR) / J Murray (GBR) 76(1) ret. (A. Murray, back)

Andy :hug: I wish he'd stop getting these niggly injuries :(

jazar
04-16-2007, 06:25 PM
Apparently it's 'touch and go' whether he will play his singles match tomorrow, with the likely outcome being that he will not :sad:

dear god no :sad:

JustJames
04-16-2007, 06:27 PM
dear god no :sad:

:lol:

Now I know that that wasn't sincere... ;)

jazar
04-16-2007, 06:30 PM
:lol:

Now I know that that wasn't sincere... ;)

oh it truly was. i am deeply concerned. plus it would disappoint all the fans in monte carlo if someone who plays as boringly as murray couldnt entertain them

JustJames
04-16-2007, 06:32 PM
Little update:

BBC Radio Five Live have just stated that it was a back injury that caused the retirement...

The injury apparently occurred when "...he hit shot and started grimacing and twisting. He actually played a good set but it was obvious something was wrong..."

And then Andy .... "..shuffled off court, arm around the physio"

According to people around Andy his "back went into spasms" and Andy has said that he is "Just going to have to see what it feels like tomorrow morning.."

It's kind of worrying that a 19 year old is having "back spasms" :scared:

JustJames
04-16-2007, 06:32 PM
oh it truly was. i am deeply concerned. plus it would disappoint all the fans in monte carlo if someone who plays as boringly as murray couldnt entertain them

Nice to see you have others interests at heart... :lol:

Ad Wim
04-16-2007, 06:43 PM
Almagro also withdrew from doubles, but still won the tournament last week...

scoobs
04-16-2007, 06:48 PM
He's been playing carrying niggly injuries since Indian Wells and should stop now and fully recover before playing further. There's just no point in him limping through another clay season like last year.

JustJames
04-16-2007, 06:48 PM
Almagro also withdrew from doubles, but still won the tournament last week...

Did he retire mid match though?

jazar
04-16-2007, 06:52 PM
It's kind of worrying that a 19 year old is having "back spasms" :scared:

he's obviously been neglecting that area in the gym

JustJames
04-16-2007, 06:59 PM
he's obviously been neglecting that area in the gym

Yeah although he seems to have neglected quite a lot in the gym in the past... :rolleyes: :lol:

jazar
04-16-2007, 07:09 PM
here is something you loving minnions might find interesting:

Andy Murray explained the decision to retire, saying: “I hit a shot and my back went into spasm and it got worse and worse after every game so now I just have to see what it’s going to feel like tomorrow.”

its from the tournament website

tennis2tennis
04-16-2007, 07:13 PM
bad teeth and teenage angst

JustJames
04-16-2007, 07:15 PM
bad teeth and teenage angst

Well they're givens that we already know...

bigbhoy
04-16-2007, 07:19 PM
here is something you loving minnions might find interesting:

Andy Murray explained the decision to retire, saying: “I hit a shot and my back went into spasm and it got worse and worse after every game so now I just have to see what it’s going to feel like tomorrow.”

its from the tournament website

You really are the most talented 'thing' I've ever seen.

You keep adding new talents everytime you post!

This time, it's extending the world's dictionary database.

'Minnions', your freelancing journalism skills must be in such high demand! :D :D :D :D

bad teeth and teenage angst

The main thing is that he can actually see over his nose unlike a certain 'messiah' that you worship! ;)

jazar
04-16-2007, 07:30 PM
You really are the most talented 'thing' I've ever seen.

You keep adding new talents everytime you post!

This time, it's extending the world's dictionary database.

'Minnions', your freelancing journalism skills must be in such high demand! :D :D :D :D

just get your head out of murray's arse

ezekiel
04-16-2007, 07:47 PM
Has Andy ever been to a gym?

He seems very fragile to me and I'd hate to see his career go south if he doesn't train harder

bigbhoy
04-16-2007, 08:29 PM
just get your head out of murray's arse

At least it's my head & not you that would love to use your little pecker to get into Muzza's cheeks!

jazar
04-16-2007, 08:32 PM
At least it's my head & not you that would love to use your little pecker to get into Muzza's cheeks!

what a deluded prick you are :rolleyes:

R.Federer
04-16-2007, 08:41 PM
Has Andy ever been to a gym?

He seems very fragile to me and I'd hate to see his career go south if he doesn't train harder

He'll get better, no doubt. Many youngsters go through this while they're working out to get to a good physical shape. Djokovic, well no stranger to injuries himself is he (unless those injury timeouts were not due to injury).

Allez
04-16-2007, 08:43 PM
Murray is one of the most injury prone players I've ever seen.

idolwatcher1
04-16-2007, 10:09 PM
Murray is one of the most injury prone players I've ever seen.
This could be due, in part, to how he decides to play tennis... If he constantly contorts his body to retrieve shots without a certain sense of ending balance and footwork, then yes, he's going to be putting himself in the "injury prone" category.

scoobs
04-16-2007, 10:11 PM
He does a lot of gym-work.

Apparently people don't seem to realise that doing gym-work doesn't mean you will never get injured.

shotgun
04-16-2007, 10:14 PM
The first time I saw Murray in person (about 6 months ago), I had the impression I was looking at a 15-year-old.

decrepitude
04-16-2007, 10:15 PM
"no chance of me playing tomorrow im sorry but cant lie down right now and its so uncomfortable"

Posted by Andy on his official site.

To those querying if he has ever been in a gym - yes, he spent practically all the off season in hard training, which can be seen by the improvement in physique. If training could prevent all injuries I'm sure no player would ever be injured.

Frankly I hope he doesn't change his mind about playing but takes time to recover properly. Playing with an injury and consequently getting hammered, while probably exascerbating the injury, is pointless.

ezekiel
04-16-2007, 10:21 PM
He'll get better, no doubt. Many youngsters go through this while they're working out to get to a good physical shape. Djokovic, well no stranger to injuries himself is he (unless those injury timeouts were not due to injury).

It's been so long with Murray since he started playing atp and hasn't gotten better. Nole trains very hard and he is now in great shape

scoobs
04-16-2007, 10:25 PM
It's been so long with Murray since he started playing atp and hasn't gotten better. Nole trains very hard and he is now in great shape
Good for Nole. This isn't about him, for once.

Looks very likely Andy will withdraw tomorrow, which is unfortunate, but a good thing - he's done too much playing with pain lately and shouldn't come back until he's let his body fully heal. I think those two falls he had in America have caused more problem than he let on - maybe more than he realised.

Kitty de Sade
04-16-2007, 10:27 PM
I was hoping for a different outcome, but I expected the withdrawal. So sorry for Andy- that really sucks. :sad:

ezekiel
04-16-2007, 10:27 PM
"no chance of me playing tomorrow im sorry but cant lie down right now and its so uncomfortable"

Posted by Andy on his official site.

To those querying if he has ever been in a gym - yes, he spent practically all the off season in hard training, which can be seen by the improvement in physique. If training could prevent all injuries I'm sure no player would ever be injured.

Frankly I hope he doesn't change his mind about playing but takes time to recover properly. Playing with an injury and consequently getting hammered, while probably exascerbating the injury, is pointless.


Andy's injuries seem to be an old man injuries, back and hip and what not, that hardly bodes well for his future

scoobs
04-16-2007, 10:30 PM
Andy's injuries seem to be an old man injuries, back and hip and what not, that hardly bodes well for his future
Given how much time you spend posting about Andy Murray, running him down and generally aggrandizing Djokovic at his expense, I can only conclude you really are intimidated and worried about what a healthy Andy Murray could do - it's bordering on obsession. You should be very relieved he's still not in a great position physically at this moment in time, I guess this explains your gloating. Don't worry though, he'll be back in good time.

R.Federer
04-16-2007, 10:32 PM
Andy's injuries seem to be an old man injuries, back and hip and what not, that hardly bodes well for his future


Wheezing and out of breath from a few short sets of tennis, what does that sound like to you? The problem of an 18 year old guy who has played junior tennis for YEARS?

Andy Murray has a big, complete, Thinking-person's game. When he fills out physically, very people will be able to match him.

ezekiel
04-16-2007, 10:34 PM
Good for Nole. This isn't about him, for once.

Looks very likely Andy will withdraw tomorrow, which is unfortunate, but a good thing - he's done too much playing with pain lately and shouldn't come back until he's let his body fully heal. I think those two falls he had in America have caused more problem than he let on - maybe more than he realised.

The post I was responding was comparing them so I felt obliged. having said that, Andy needs to put some muscle on him which will lessen the possibility of injuries especially the bones

danton
04-16-2007, 10:35 PM
Oh bugger I was really hoping he would go past lube and Blake. Nevermind - better safe than sorry.

danton
04-16-2007, 10:36 PM
The post I was responding was comparing them so I felt obliged. having said that, Andy needs to put some muscle on him which will lessen the possibility of injuries especially the bones

I saw a pic of Murray this year without his top on and he had a very well defined six pack. Just because he isn't built like Nadal doesn't mean he isn't fit.

ezekiel
04-16-2007, 10:43 PM
Given how much time you spend posting about Andy Murray, running him down and generally aggrandizing Djokovic at his expense, I can only conclude you really are intimidated and worried about what a healthy Andy Murray could do - it's bordering on obsession. You should be very relieved he's still not in a great position physically at this moment in time, I guess this explains your gloating. Don't worry though, he'll be back in good time.

I post about a lot of players and subjects but somehow you seem offended by my opinions on one of them and of course you happen to be the fan of only that one but let's not make this into a personal bash :o

I am not agrandizing Djokovic at all or show me otherwise. I am sorry that you are a rival fan and can't see past fan biterness and I said before I hope Andy and others push and rival Nole as it can only make him better . Nole was not in good shape last year also and had well publicised retirements but he turned the corner and certainly looks stronger this year which has maximised his game also

scoobs
04-16-2007, 10:54 PM
I post about a lot of players and subjects but somehow you seem offended by my opinions on one of them and of course you happen to be the fan of only that one but let's not make this into a personal bash :o

I am not agrandizing Djokovic at all or show me otherwise. I am sorry that you are a rival fan and can't see past fan biterness and I said before I hope Andy and others push and rival Nole as it can only make him better . Nole was not in good shape last year also and had well publicised retirements but he turned the corner and certainly looks stronger this year which has maximised his game also
I'm not offended by your opinions. I find myself irritated at how often you feel the need to express the same opinion, however.

Personally I want Nole to do well, and I want Andy to do well, though I personally prefer to watch Andy's game. But I don't feel the need to make digs at Nole's past problems with his breathing, or his "joke" injury timeouts, or his quips about being in control against Nadal at the French, or whatever. I respect his game and his fans. That's where we differ - you seem to feel a lot of need to compare the two and make it clear where you think Andy comes off second best. I don't think the comparisons are necessary or very relevant at this stage in their young careers and will be more interesting in about 5 years time.

You can say and do what you like - I don't intend to keep having this sort of conversation with you in the future. But let's be clear - my objections to what you post are not fan bitterness - just a personal distaste for some of the posts you make and the way you make them. That's all.

Allure
04-16-2007, 10:54 PM
:sad:

ezekiel
04-17-2007, 12:13 AM
I'm not offended by your opinions. I find myself irritated at how often you feel the need to express the same opinion, however.

same opinion?
Have I ever talked about Andy's fitness and his chronical injuries ?
And frankly I am sick of comparing them, I think Nole will separate himself decisivelly later this year from all of his buddies but that's what british and american media does and Andy fans come here influenced by their buoyant hype of Andy and can't handle any legit criticism .


Personally I want Nole to do well, and I want Andy to do well, though I personally prefer to watch Andy's game. But I don't feel the need to make digs at Nole's past problems with his breathing, or his "joke" injury timeouts, or his quips about being in control against Nadal at the French, or whatever. I respect his game and his fans. That's where we differ - you seem to feel a lot of need to compare the two and make it clear where you think Andy comes off second best. I don't think the comparisons are necessary or very relevant at this stage in their young careers and will be more interesting in about 5 years time.

But Nole has clearly improved, he is in good shape now and looks like a player and he was indeed in control against Nadal in Miami and he won so that's not an issue.
But of course we compare them now and I am slightly tired of it frankly and of course Murray is behind now and if he is competitive he will acknowledge that and improve his game and mentality , after all he is still very young tennis wise.
You say you will compare them in 5 years , fine I guess you feel Andy will be better then, as for me I am looking to compare Nole to Federer and likes in 5 years


You can say and do what you like - I don't intend to keep having this sort of conversation with you in the future. But let's be clear - my objections to what you post are not fan bitterness - just a personal distaste for some of the posts you make and the way you make them. That's all.


that's odd as I hardly talked with you before but I am not apologising for celebrating his achievements or criticisings Andy's disgraceful performance . Other than that , it's all bitterness :wavey:

scoobs
04-17-2007, 10:19 AM
Good news for Jazar:

Andy's been forced to withdraw due to his back injury.

:sad:

Duncan
04-17-2007, 10:22 AM
Just noticed the breaking news on Sky Sports News.

This is sad news indeed but i hope he can get better for next week!

Duncan
04-17-2007, 10:40 AM
Murray always says he loves everything American

Now that includes withdrawing from Monte Carlo:D


Lol that is quite funny! :lol:

BORO77
04-17-2007, 01:01 PM
I cant tell you how sorry i am that andy:rolleyes: wont play:)

jazar
04-17-2007, 02:04 PM
what the shame he wasnt man enough to let gicquel, the more talented player, beat him

ginnylegend
04-17-2007, 02:26 PM
what the shame he wasnt man enough to let gicquel, the more talented player, beat him

Scottish tennis >>> English tennis
Scottish people >>> English people
Northerners >>> Southerners (particularly cockneys)

jazar
04-17-2007, 02:33 PM
Scottish tennis >>> English tennis
Scottish people >>> English people
Northerners >>> Southerners (particularly cockneys)

Americans = Stupid

decrepitude
04-17-2007, 02:35 PM
We can do without another Scottish v English war, thank you! Don't take Jazar as typical of all the English.

I'm really impressed with his tennis knowledge. Gicquel better than Murray? That IS Gicquel ranked at 46, highest ever ranking 41, and TEN years older than Murray that we are talking about here?

ginnylegend
04-17-2007, 02:39 PM
Americans = Stupid

I'd rather be stupid and a nation of winners (ahem) rather than a nation of moaning hypocritical losers that overrate their tennis players, cricket team and football team, and yes I think Murray is way overrated. But I can see your bigotry is because the mighty Ingerland can't produce anyone as good.

jazar
04-17-2007, 02:39 PM
We can do without another Scottish v English war, thank you! Don't take Jazar as typical of all the English.

I'm really impressed with his tennis knowledge. Gicquel better than Murray? That IS Gicquel ranked at 46, highest ever ranking 41, and TEN years older than Murray that we are talking about here?

who says i'm english?

and there arent any other guys called gicquel who have world rankings

jazar
04-17-2007, 02:41 PM
I'd rather be stupid and a nation of winners (ahem) rather than a nation of moaning hypocritical losers that overrate their tennis players, cricket team and football team, and yes I think Murray is way overrated. But I can see your bigotry is because the mighty Ingerland can't produce anyone as good.

a nation of winners, :haha: are you a comedian?
yes our tennis players, cricket team and football team are very overrated, thanks for pointing out something that everyone in england already knows :wavey:

canbera
04-17-2007, 02:43 PM
all I can say, it's good for David Nalbandian... he'll probably still struggle against Philipp, though ^^

The_Nadal_effect
04-17-2007, 03:43 PM
Such a strange start to clay season... Some good players haven't turned up in the first place and there are already some others retiring early.

Sjengster
04-17-2007, 04:07 PM
Scottish tennis >>> English tennis
Scottish people >>> English people
Northerners >>> Southerners (particularly cockneys)

Too many screenings of Braveheart in your domicile, I'll wager. ;)

danton
04-17-2007, 05:48 PM
Scottish tennis >>> English tennis
Scottish people >>> English people
Northerners >>> Southerners (particularly cockneys)

Have you ever been to the UK or are you basing this on cliched American TV progs and movies you've seen?

It's a rather sweeping comment that is what us Brits call 'Bollocks'

TMJordan
04-17-2007, 05:49 PM
He is ugly?

seanog
04-17-2007, 07:30 PM
back spasim