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Gael Monfils is def by Stepanek 0:6 0:2 *0:40

Andre♥
04-16-2007, 01:53 PM
Fakes an injury to not get double bagelled! :haha:

Ad Wim
04-16-2007, 01:54 PM
Monfils is a joke.

Byrd
04-16-2007, 01:56 PM
Good luck after Rome Gael :wavey:

Mistaflava
04-16-2007, 01:58 PM
what a complete joke...someone kick this idiot off the tour and take Moya too.

vincayou
04-16-2007, 01:58 PM
I don't understand what's going on with him.

Rogiman
04-16-2007, 02:01 PM
Monfils is like those young american basketball players who are able to dominate the high-school leagues due to sheer athleticism, but can't make the transition to the NBA properly because they lack foundations and brains. :)

croat123
04-16-2007, 02:04 PM
he sucks. and that was really bad acting in the last game :o

Sunset of Age
04-16-2007, 02:06 PM
Oops. Guess Monfils was indeed very much overhyped in the past.
The guy's getting nowhere nowadays.

Mistaflava
04-16-2007, 02:07 PM
overrated punk

Byrd
04-16-2007, 02:09 PM
Gael should be first in line for when mcdonalds are hiring, even then I think he would be underqualified.

vincayou
04-16-2007, 02:09 PM
Monfils is like those young american basketball players who are able to dominate the high-school leagues due to sheer athleticism, but can't make the transition to the NBA properly because they lack foundations and brains. :)

The transition was ok, he went up to the top50 quite easily. But from there, he just stopped improving.

It's totally different from Basketball I would say. Most junior player don't make the transition right, because of their lack of athletism and power when they have to face pro (see D.Young). Serve by instance becomes much more important at the pro level than at junior level.

CyBorg
04-16-2007, 02:43 PM
what a complete joke...someone kick this idiot off the tour and take Moya too.

What's your beef with Moya?

Moya is a grizzled proven veteran who has won at ATP tournament this season and many years in a row. He's allowed to struggle and one can forgive him for his injuries at his age.

Leave Moya alone.

laure xxx
04-16-2007, 02:46 PM
overrated punk

Just 'cause he's hotter than you. :o

Misterman
04-16-2007, 02:49 PM
Classic case of a talented youth, touted as the next best thing...crashing and burning when he meets the big boys.
He probably crushed everyone in his local tournaments growing up, and that gave him & his crew a big ego.
Ooops !!

tt boy
04-16-2007, 02:49 PM
what a tool!!!!!http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1293/bigfingeruv8.gif

zicofirol
04-16-2007, 02:51 PM
Monfils is like those young american basketball players who are able to dominate the high-school leagues due to sheer athleticism, but can't make the transition to the NBA properly because they lack foundations and brains. :)

that's a good analogy, the guy thinks he can get by just by chasing balls down and putting them back in play...

tripb19
04-16-2007, 02:51 PM
LMAO I am actually laughing my ass off irl too.

What a clown.

BlakeJamitis
04-16-2007, 02:53 PM
Stubborn-ness is more a problem for Monfils. He needs a coach and someone that will push his butt hard. Monfils thought it would come easy ... it takes hard work buddy!!!

Jumpman23
04-16-2007, 02:58 PM
whats up with all the hate and racism towards the black atp players on this board. briefly have read the comments about blake....he is a joke (he is only top 10 in the world), Monfils working at McDonalds. Monfils is struggling w/ confidence right now, eventually he will get out of it but it will take time. You guys need to stop drinking that haterade. Most of these comments about Monfils are racist.

vincayou
04-16-2007, 03:00 PM
Classic case of a talented youth, touted as the next best thing...crashing and burning when he meets the big boys.
He probably crushed everyone in his local tournaments growing up, and that gave him & his crew a big ego.
Ooops !!

Actually, he was not very impressive until 16. He was always in the middle of the pack.

tripb19
04-16-2007, 03:01 PM
whats up with all the hate and racism towards the black atp players on this board. briefly have read the comments about blake....he is a joke (he is only top 10 in the world), Monfils working at McDonalds. Monfils is struggling w/ confidence right now, eventually he will get out of it but it will take time. You guys need to stop drinking that haterade. Most of these comments about Monfils are racist.

Don't forget Donald Young, we hate him because he's black too.

Experimentee
04-16-2007, 03:02 PM
So how does anyone know that Monfils was not really injured?

The scoreline would seem to suggest he was.

GlennMirnyi
04-16-2007, 03:03 PM
No, the scoreline indicates he sucks.

lisaplenske
04-16-2007, 03:05 PM
a leg injury indeed.

What many trolls here.They dont think that something happen ,the score is so :eek: that it shows something happened.

Its not stepanek who defeated monfils but monfils body himself.

leng jai
04-16-2007, 03:07 PM
How many of you guys actually watched the match?

laure xxx
04-16-2007, 03:09 PM
How many of you guys actually watched the match?

I watched some. From what I saw he hit twice as many winners as Mr. Martina Hingis but 6 times as many errors....He didn't look injured, just despondent. That was in the first set anyhow.

Puschkin
04-16-2007, 03:09 PM
So how does anyone know that Monfils was not really injured?

The scoreline would seem to suggest he was.

My thoughts exactly. And I am not even a particular fan of him or his game.

ASP0315
04-16-2007, 03:11 PM
Gael. :lol:
Congrats Radek. :yeah:

Hugh Jaas
04-16-2007, 03:18 PM
whats up with all the hate and racism towards the black atp players on this board. briefly have read the comments about blake....he is a joke (he is only top 10 in the world), Monfils working at McDonalds. Monfils is struggling w/ confidence right now, eventually he will get out of it but it will take time. You guys need to stop drinking that haterade. Most of these comments about Monfils are racist.

Jumpman23 i have been trying to get this point across for a few months now.

Monfils, Young, Blake, Williams sisters(funny fotos is a prime example) get the usual racial mtf abuse on a daily basis. sadly this MB hasn't moved into the 20th century yet.

JBdV
04-16-2007, 03:27 PM
If Monfils wasn't black, would we get the typical stupid remarks like "his only future is in the NBA or working in McDonald's"? Somehow I don't think so...

euphoria
04-16-2007, 03:36 PM
I agree. It's not the hating, but it's comments like that.

Kitty de Sade
04-16-2007, 03:41 PM
What's your beef with Moya?

Moya is a grizzled proven veteran who has won at ATP tournament this season and many years in a row. He's allowed to struggle and one can forgive him for his injuries at his age.

Leave Moya alone.

A very profound statement, and one that many would agree with. :)

Not sure what is going on with Monfils at the moment, but clearly he is going in the wrong direction.

Andre♥
04-16-2007, 03:50 PM
If Monfils wasn't black, would we get the typical stupid remarks like "his only future is in the NBA or working in McDonald's"? Somehow I don't think so...

Is Fat Dave black?

Is Ljubicic black?

Is Karlovic black?

Is Roddick black?

Is Federer black?

Is Nadal black?

Is Canas black?

GlennMirnyi
04-16-2007, 03:51 PM
If Monfils wasn't black, would we get the typical stupid remarks like "his only future is in the NBA or working in McDonald's"? Somehow I don't think so...

Why playing this stupid race card? So every McDonald's worker is black? :rolleyes:

dijus
04-16-2007, 03:53 PM
Gael :sad:

Langers
04-16-2007, 03:53 PM
Monfils is a disgrace.

gusman890
04-16-2007, 03:55 PM
:haha:

gael :yeah:

henree
04-16-2007, 04:00 PM
Why playing this stupid race card? So every McDonald's worker is black? :rolleyes:

There are like only 2 Black male players on the whole Atp tour. And they are hated, villified, and made fun of more than anyone. So logically its easy to come to the conclusion that MTF hates them because they are Black. I just think this is just a coincidence. The problem is that because it is so rare for a Black person to play professional tennis. Those players that win a few matches get major coverage. Even though they haven't proven themselves. The Williams sisters were hyped out of this world even before they hit the courts. I just think this rubs people the wrong way.

GlennMirnyi
04-16-2007, 04:03 PM
There are like only 2 Black male players on the whole Atp tour. And they are hated, villified, and made fun of more than anyone. So logically its easy to come to the conclusion that MTF hates them because they are Black. I just think this is just a coincidence. The problem is that because it is so rare for a Black person to play professional tennis. Those players that win a few matches get major coverage. Even though they haven't proven themselves. The Williams sisters were hyped out of this world even before they hit the courts. I just think this rubs people the wrong way.

Monfils is hated because he's a joker, can't play tennis, has one of the most ridiculous games in the circuit and has some of the stupidest antics ever.

Andre♥
04-16-2007, 04:05 PM
The only racism I see here is people calling the other racists just because they aren't black, so they can't hate a black person or they are racists.

That's the only racism I see in here...

JBdV
04-16-2007, 04:07 PM
Is Fat Dave black?

Is Ljubicic black?

Is Karlovic black?

Is Roddick black?

Is Federer black?

Is Nadal black?

Is Canas black?

They've all had success. Success breeds haters, Monfils has had NO success on the ATP, not even been in the top 20.

Byrd
04-16-2007, 04:09 PM
There's no racism here, just people frustrated and pissed off at a player not bothering and just turning up for a cheque instead of maximising his potential.

David Kenzie
04-16-2007, 04:12 PM
The tournament website says
R Stepanek (CZE) d G Monfils (FRA) 62 20 ret. (right hamstring)

GlennMirnyi
04-16-2007, 04:12 PM
Being an idiot breeds haters too, not only having success.

JBdV
04-16-2007, 04:15 PM
Being an idiot breeds haters too, not only having success.

How is it your problem if he's an idiot? Why do you care? In 6 months, according to you, he'll have retired from tennis anyway, so why the hate?

GlennMirnyi
04-16-2007, 04:16 PM
How is it your problem if he's an idiot? Why do you care? In 6 months, according to you, he'll have retired from tennis anyway, so why the hate?

I remember what he did in the FO against who was it? Norman? Then again against Djokovic? He doesn't deserve anything good after doing that.

JBdV
04-16-2007, 04:28 PM
I remember what he did in the FO against who was it? Norman? Then again against Djokovic? He doesn't deserve anything good after doing that.

Fair enough, it's your choice. You're only one of many haters though...

martinatreue
04-16-2007, 04:32 PM
Posters tend to hate players who get HYPED TO HELL because they are black. That is what happened with Monfils, Donald Young and, to a lesser extent, James Blake. That does not at all apply to the very successful Williams sister and overlooked or ignored Chanda Rubin. Monfils was way way way overhyped and acted like a jerk on the court and has a VERY VERY VERY boring baseline game. Coria is also disliked for his antics. Sorry, but if you're gonna play the race card then at least admit that many black players also benefit from their race in the publicity department when it comes to getting more attention than their accomplishments merit.

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-16-2007, 04:32 PM
There are like only 2 Black male players on the whole Atp tour. And they are hated, villified, and made fun of more than anyone. So logically its easy to come to the conclusion that MTF hates them because they are Black. I just think this is just a coincidence. The problem is that because it is so rare for a Black person to play professional tennis. Those players that win a few matches get major coverage. Even though they haven't proven themselves. The Williams sisters were hyped out of this world even before they hit the courts. I just think this rubs people the wrong way.

:confused:

People hate on Nadal, Hewitt, Llubicic, Federer, etc.

It has nothing to do with race.

tangerine_dream
04-16-2007, 04:37 PM
that's a good analogy, the guy thinks he can get by just by chasing balls down and putting them back in play...
Eh, some players make it to the top five playing like that. ;)

So how does anyone know that Monfils was not really injured? The scoreline would seem to suggest he was.
I thought so too. Did anybody actually see the match, or is everybody just laughing at the scoreline?

There are like only 2 Black male players on the whole Atp tour. And they are hated, villified, and made fun of more than anyone.
Are you kidding? Hewitt, Coria, Roddick, Nadal, Ljubicic, Djokovic...these guys aren't black and they get tenfold the hate than either Monfils or Blake has gotten.

People will criticize Monfils for a poor performance just like they do any other player here. MTF is full of Equal Opportunity Bashers. You can't get any more color-blind than that.

scoobs
04-16-2007, 04:42 PM
I'm seriously irritated by the idiots who choose to speak of "MTF" as a single entity with one voice, one personality and one viewpoint.

At best it is lazy and deficient thinking to group such a diverse, fractious and argumentative group of people as such, just so you can then brand it as racist.

At worse it's pathologically stupid and flies in the face of facts obvious to just about anyone - the most criticised players on this board are Federer, Nadal, Roddick and Ljubicic.

I agree with a remark made above - MOST people on MTF are equal opportunities bashers - they will criticise a poor performance, a tank, a suspect injury withdrawal or whatever - regardless of the race, colour of skin, country of origin or eye colour of the player in question.

Racism can and should be condemned and I am sure there are a small minority of blatant racists on here. But that's no excuse to condemn everyone else on the flimsiest of evidence. People are far too keen to wave the race card around sometimes where it is not relevant.

scoobs
04-16-2007, 04:44 PM
As for Monfils, I thought he came out slightly injured and was trying to end points quickly and made a complete mess of it. I don't think the retirement was a complete tank - I think there was an injury there, but not one that required a retirement. I think he chose the easy way out because injury or no, he didn't want to stand out there and go down 0 and 0, and that was the real possibility - the guy couldn't find the court.

mashamaniac
04-16-2007, 04:48 PM
a shame on gael...a fucking crazy guy who just deserves being a ballboy than a pro player! he'd better to go and work in a circuss than on a tennis court!

BORO77
04-16-2007, 05:06 PM
a shame on gael...a fucking crazy guy who just deserves being a ballboy than a pro player! he'd better to go and work in a circuss than on a tennis court!

I agree totally, i always disliked this ugly kid:cool:

Kitty de Sade
04-16-2007, 05:13 PM
I'm seriously irritated by the idiots who choose to speak of "MTF" as a single entity with one voice, one personality and one viewpoint.

At best it is lazy and deficient thinking to group such a diverse, fractious and argumentative group of people as such, just so you can then brand it as racist.

At worse it's pathologically stupid and flies in the face of facts obvious to just about anyone - the most criticised players on this board are Federer, Nadal, Roddick and Ljubicic.

I agree with a remark made above - MOST people on MTF are equal opportunities bashers - they will criticise a poor performance, a tank, a suspect injury withdrawal or whatever - regardless of the race, colour of skin, country of origin or eye colour of the player in question.

Racism can and should be condemned and I am sure there are a small minority of blatant racists on here. But that's no excuse to condemn everyone else on the flimsiest of evidence. People are far too keen to wave the race card around sometimes where it is not relevant.


Very well said, scoobs. :worship:

tennisgal_001
04-16-2007, 05:35 PM
They've all had success. Success breeds haters, Monfils has had NO success on the ATP, not even been in the top 20.

Yet, he is hyped like there is no tomorrow, which is EXACTLY why most people jump up at the chance to criticize him or even bash him to a certain extent. It has nothing to do with color, it's a matter of backing it up, and Monfils hasn't done so so far, therefore he is being "hated on" as you put it.

Now back to the main topic, I haven't watched the match as I'm sure is the case for many of you, so I will not pass out any remarks regarding the suspicious retirement. A video would be helpful though.

Burrow
04-16-2007, 05:48 PM
what a complete joke...someone kick this idiot off the tour and take Moya too.

says a dumbass with accounts on 10 forums with over 10000 posts each, just be quiet you nerd.

martine2
04-16-2007, 05:52 PM
What's your beef with Moya?

Moya is a grizzled proven veteran who has won at ATP tournament this season and many years in a row. He's allowed to struggle and one can forgive him for his injuries at his age.

Leave Moya alone.

Well said :yeah:

Carlos is a fighter and certainly not a crybaby :mad: :mad:

Look at the video. It clearly shows there's something wrong! Leave him alone!

JBdV
04-16-2007, 06:00 PM
Yet, he is hyped like there is no tomorrow, which is EXACTLY why most people jump up at the chance to criticize him or even bash him to a certain extent. It has nothing to do with color, it's a matter of backing it up, and Monfils hasn't done so so far, therefore he is being "hated on" as you put it.


What does that have to with him? He's not responsible for the hype surrounding him, seems a pretty stupid reason for disliking a player to me. If you dislike his showmanship, fair enough, come out and say that. But why stupid comments like "I hate this ugly kid" etc., that's what leaves me slightly puzzled...

freeandlonely
04-16-2007, 06:07 PM
:confused:

People hate on Nadal, Hewitt, Llubicic, Federer, etc.

It has nothing to do with race.


Right.

I dislike Hewitt's come on here and there.
I dislike Ljubicic when he said he feel he is the real NO.2 of the world.
I love Blake's personality, Federer's all-court game,
and I dislike the way Gael Monfils beat Marcos at AO 2007.

tennisgal_001
04-16-2007, 06:21 PM
What does that have to with him? He's not responsible for the hype surrounding him, seems a pretty stupid reason for disliking a player to me.

That applies to almost all players. They are all hyped because of their presumed talent. When they go through a slump, no one's going to blame the journalists who flattered them!!! They get the bashing loud and clear.


If you dislike his showmanship, fair enough, come out and say that. But why stupid comments like "I hate this ugly kid" etc., that's what leaves me slightly puzzled...

We both know that's just out of vain and spite. How many comments such as that one are made per thread? 2? 3? It is silly to generalize all members on this forum as being "racists" when in reality it's only a few.

Tom Paulman
04-16-2007, 06:29 PM
I hope Radek will repeat this scoreline against Ljubicic :yeah:

Snowwy
04-16-2007, 06:31 PM
Haha, blaming racism for the hate on Monfils, this place can be priceless sometimes.

zicofirol
04-16-2007, 06:50 PM
There are like only 2 Black male players on the whole Atp tour. And they are hated, villified, and made fun of more than anyone. So logically its easy to come to the conclusion that MTF hates them because they are Black. I just think this is just a coincidence. The problem is that because it is so rare for a Black person to play professional tennis. Those players that win a few matches get major coverage. Even though they haven't proven themselves. The Williams sisters were hyped out of this world even before they hit the courts. I just think this rubs people the wrong way.

theya re not the most hated, monflis wasn't hated from the start, he has gained legions of hater since last year for his shitty way of playing, as for blake he is not even top 5 or 10 hated, I think people who think everyone is a racist are just closet racist...

JBdV
04-16-2007, 06:52 PM
How many comments such as that one are made per thread? 2? 3?

Yes all players get comments like that mainly from gamblers who've lost money, but for Monfils it seems to be more. I mean someone laughing out loud out of joy that he lost? What is that all about :confused:

It is silly to generalize all members on this forum as being "racists" when in reality it's only a few

Sorry but when did I do/say that?

Adler
04-16-2007, 06:54 PM
I saw it. It was... pretty ugly
Radek's got a chance to reach quarters

jazar
04-16-2007, 07:26 PM
monfils has never had much of a brain

Allez
04-16-2007, 07:31 PM
He must have been injured. That's the only way to explain this.

pascal'rG
04-16-2007, 07:39 PM
YOu really are pathetic guys...

He was badly injured and cannot play tennis for 10 days minimum.

So try to have some informations before posting hating stupid post like that.

Andre♥
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
YOu really are pathetic guys...

He was badly injured and cannot play tennis for 10 days minimum.

So try to have some informations before posting hating stupid post like that.

I watched the match. It was acting and a bad one...

JBdV
04-16-2007, 07:52 PM
Who changed the thread's title? :confused:

Andre♥
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
Who changed the thread's title? :confused:

Probably someone that didn't like the fact I called Monfils a pussy and a quitter...

JBdV
04-16-2007, 07:56 PM
Those mods are taking political correctness too far now :rolleyes:

scoobs
04-16-2007, 08:06 PM
YOu really are pathetic guys...

He was badly injured and cannot play tennis for 10 days minimum.

So try to have some informations before posting hating stupid post like that.
What is the status of his injury problem then?

Johnny Groove
04-16-2007, 08:42 PM
Jumpman23 i have been trying to get this point across for a few months now.

Monfils, Young, Blake, Williams sisters(funny fotos is a prime example) get the usual racial mtf abuse on a daily basis. sadly this MB hasn't moved into the 20th century yet.

Its the 21st century, man

I saw it. It was... pretty ugly
Radek's got a chance to reach quarters

Ugly? Stepanek or the match?

Neely
04-16-2007, 09:57 PM
Monfils is like those young american basketball players who are able to dominate the high-school leagues due to sheer athleticism, but can't make the transition to the NBA properly because they lack foundations and brains. :)
I know what you are trying to say, but of the ones who "dominated" their HS leagues, there are more than enough examples of those who made the transition rather easily and are or were a force to have a good career ;)

Kolya
04-16-2007, 10:27 PM
What a joke...

pascal'rG
04-16-2007, 10:28 PM
i really don't mind to translate... so for those who can understand :

"Contraint à l'abandon face à Stepanek au premier tour du Masters Series de Monte-Carlo, Gaêl Monfils souffre d'une élongation à l'ischio-jambier, contractée à l'échauffement le matin-même. "Les médecins du tournoi m'ont prescrit dix jours d'arrêt", a expliqué le Français. "Ce n'est vraiment pas de chance, Barcelone est compromis. C'est dommage parce qu'avec Olivier Delaître (son entraîneur, Ndlr), on s'était bien entraînés pendant dix jours à Sophia Antipolis. (...) Je suis défait."

Monfils is far from being my favorite player but how can you guys treat a guy with some physical and mentals problems who show already that he can be a very good player like he was a piece of shit ???

You really have to know some respect or maybe not... just stay blind and stupid all your life.. who cares ?

RickDaStick
04-16-2007, 10:45 PM
What a joke Monfils is. He needs to switch to the paddle tennis tour ASAP.

JBdV
04-16-2007, 11:08 PM
What a joke Monfils is. He needs to switch to the paddle tennis tour ASAP.

Do you realise that joke wasn't funny the first 256 times you used it?? :o

RickDaStick
04-16-2007, 11:17 PM
Do you realise that joke wasn't funny the first 256 times you used it?? :o

Not a joke. Monfils has shown he can have a successful career in paddle and no career on the atp. Shouldnt be a hard decision for The Genius.

Sean.J.S.
04-17-2007, 01:18 AM
Monfils just faked an injury after being thrased. **Cough** Henin **Cough**

Emilio
04-17-2007, 01:53 AM
poor him

azza
04-17-2007, 02:31 AM
The tournament website says
R Stepanek (CZE) d G Monfils (FRA) 60 20 ret. (right hamstring)

they clearly cant say

R Stepanek (CZE) d G Monfils (FRA) 60 20 ret. (didnt want to play anymore.)


:lol:

Sean.J.S.
04-17-2007, 07:51 AM
There was nothing wrong with Monfils until he was about to get double bageled. :rolleyes:

Loremaster
04-17-2007, 08:29 AM
I just wait until Rome and Roland Garros after those tournaments Monfils will be forced to leave Atp tourney and play only challanger and qualies it would as priceless as Big bald head no heart leaving top10 and both will happen soon

trixtah
04-17-2007, 08:31 AM
watched the match...can't say much for either, but Gael really blew..

almouchie
04-17-2007, 08:50 AM
his drop continuesssssss

Mateya
04-17-2007, 08:55 AM
He should be a ballkid :)
With his long legs and speed...and you dont need much brain for doing it. :devil:

Puschkin
04-17-2007, 10:10 AM
It has become a habit here to ridicule and insult players having a hard time for whatever reason. I find that disrespectful in general, independent of the skin colour of the player. I am well aware that this post won't change the attitude of those competing for the rudest behaviour, I don't have to like it though.

Experimentee
04-17-2007, 10:19 AM
Posters tend to hate players who get HYPED TO HELL because they are black. That is what happened with Monfils, Donald Young and, to a lesser extent, James Blake. That does not at all apply to the very successful Williams sister and overlooked or ignored Chanda Rubin. Monfils was way way way overhyped and acted like a jerk on the court and has a VERY VERY VERY boring baseline game. Coria is also disliked for his antics. Sorry, but if you're gonna play the race card then at least admit that many black players also benefit from their race in the publicity department when it comes to getting more attention than their accomplishments merit.

Yeah he was hyped only because he was black. It had nothing to do with him being Junior #1 and winning 3 Junior Slams in one year :rolleyes:

frenchie
04-17-2007, 10:23 AM
he won 10 points in the whole match!!!

leng jai
04-17-2007, 10:30 AM
10 points too many.

oz_boz
04-17-2007, 10:41 AM
I'm seriously irritated by the idiots who choose to speak of "MTF" as a single entity with one voice, one personality and one viewpoint.

At best it is lazy and deficient thinking to group such a diverse, fractious and argumentative group of people as such, just so you can then brand it as racist.

At worse it's pathologically stupid and flies in the face of facts obvious to just about anyone - the most criticised players on this board are Federer, Nadal, Roddick and Ljubicic.

I agree with a remark made above - MOST people on MTF are equal opportunities bashers - they will criticise a poor performance, a tank, a suspect injury withdrawal or whatever - regardless of the race, colour of skin, country of origin or eye colour of the player in question.

Racism can and should be condemned and I am sure there are a small minority of blatant racists on here. But that's no excuse to condemn everyone else on the flimsiest of evidence. People are far too keen to wave the race card around sometimes where it is not relevant.

Great post scoobs.

It has become a habit here to ridicule and insult players having a hard time for whatever reason. I find that disrespectful in general, independent of the skin colour of the player. I am well aware that this post won't change the attitude of those competing for the rudest behaviour, I don't have to like it though.

True. Virtually all players - at leat the successful or "hyped" ones - get ridiculed for the slightest reason, regardless of race.

Action Jackson
04-17-2007, 10:52 AM
It seems if a black person critcised the Williams sisters especially, they'd be called race traitors. At the same time scoobs pretty much said it all.

Monfils injured his leg in training that morning and really should not have taken the court at all, but he chose to do so and paid the penalty for this choice.

Stepanek looked embarrassed at what was going on out there and yes I saw all of the match and marvelled at the 28 unforced errors. Not the worst performance I have ever seen, but unforgettable.

leng jai
04-17-2007, 10:53 AM
Thanks for the clear up.