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mallorn
04-13-2007, 10:47 AM
At first I thought it was an April Fool's joke because the story surfaced around April 1 but now there's more and more about it in the Spanish media, and apparently the court is being constructed, so it looks like this is for real. :scratch:

According to the Spanish articles, Rafa and Roger are going to play an exhibition match called "The battle of the surfaces" on May 2. The court is going to be the oddest thing - half-grass (for Roger) and half-clay (for Rafa). :lol:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2827/ehsqlcgiol4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Los operarios trabajan en las instalaciones del Palma Arena. Foto: JAUME MOREY

Hierba para el partido galáctico

Comienzan los preparativos en el Palma Arena para albergar el partido entre Nadal y Federer

Amador Pons

Si le gusta el tenis, el próximo día 2 de mayo a las 16.00 horas tiene una cita con los dos mejores jugadores del mundo en el Palma Arena. Roger Federer y Rafael Nadal pondrán en juego las dos mejores rachas de la historia de la ATP (sobre hierba y sobre tierra batida) en una exhibición que se jugará en una pista mitad césped-mitad arcilla con capacidad para alrededor de 6.500 espectadores. La instalación ya ha comenzado su lavado de imagen y hoy se presentará oficialmente el partido.

Tal y como adelantó Ultima Hora, Roger Federer y Rafael Nadal van a protagonizar la guerra de las galaxias en Palma. La mejor racha de todos los tiempos sobre hierba (48 triunfos seguidos) y el registro más importante sobre tierra batida (62 victorias consecutivas) cruzan las dos filosofías más opuestas del deporte de la raqueta en un partido que ha despertado una gran expectación en todo el mundo.

El Govern se puso ayer manos a la obra. Andrés Puigserver y su equipo se instalaron en el Palma Arena y comenzaron la construcción de la pista. El lado de la tierra batida no tiene ningún secreto para el constructor mallorquín ya que es el responsable de hacer las pistas de Copa Davis cuando España actúa como local, y lo único que preocupa es el lado de la hierba, especialmente por el poco margen de tiempo que tienen.

http://www.ultimahora.es/segunda.dba?-1+9+395931

http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=393163&idseccio_PK=809&h=

http://www.mallorcadiario.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23555&Itemid=33


EDITED to add the link to the official site: http://www.thebattleofsurfaces.com/news.php

Kalliopeia
04-13-2007, 11:03 AM
I think this is hilarious and looks to be a hell of a lot of fun. Too bad I probably won't be able to see it.

oz_boz
04-13-2007, 11:06 AM
That has to be a joke. :lol:

And if it weren't, they should make the court divided lengthwise to be fair - but the injury risk :scared:. I guess Fed would like to have grass on the ad side. ;)

gusman890
04-13-2007, 11:07 AM
fed will win :)

Malul
04-13-2007, 11:08 AM
nadal will win by 6-0 0-6 7-6

hilarious idea!!

scarecrows
04-13-2007, 11:09 AM
Fed would win, Fed on clay>Rafa on grass and also can adapt qiuicker to the different movement

but this is all bullshit if you ask me

oz_boz
04-13-2007, 11:09 AM
fed will win :)

If his half is grass, no way.

mallorn
04-13-2007, 11:11 AM
That has to be a joke. :lol:
Like I said, I thought so at first... but actually constructing the court would be taking the joke a little too far, don't you think? :lol:

And if it weren't, they should make the court divided lengthwise to be fair - but the injury risk :scared:. I guess Fed would like to have grass on the ad side. ;)
We were wondering about the court on vb.com and someone came up with the idea of a striped one. :haha:

oz_boz
04-13-2007, 11:13 AM
Like I said, I thought so at first... but actually constructing the court would be taking the joke a little too far, don't you think? :lol:

Have you been to the site yourself? I would think twice before I took a photo as evidence in the days of Photoshop et al. ;)

mallorn
04-13-2007, 11:16 AM
Have you been to the site yourself? I would think twice before I took a photo as evidence in the days of Photoshop et al. ;)
Fair enough. :lol:

Does anyone know if April Fool's lasts a month in Spain? :p

Malul
04-13-2007, 11:18 AM
munich and estoril that week,probably neither of nadal or federer playing there so it could be right anyhow?

scoobs
04-13-2007, 11:21 AM
Will they operate normal rules and change ends?

I think it sounds like a lot of fun...I'd LOVE to see this match.

oz_boz
04-13-2007, 11:23 AM
Will they operate normal rules and change ends?

They would have to, the guy standing on the clay side has a huge advantage.

Sofyaxo
04-13-2007, 11:24 AM
For some reason that sounds like an injury waiting to happen.

jazar
04-13-2007, 11:24 AM
that is an absolutely crazy idea. why not just have a clay court and grass court and play a set on each. still i guess it will be hilarious to watch

scoobs
04-13-2007, 11:26 AM
They would have to, the guy standing on the clay side has a huge advantage.
Totally - Rafa has tons of time to chase the ball down and then hit at pace, and it comes to Roger with little time to react.

I don't know - I think it sounds like an absolute hoot. I hope there's a stream for this somewhere.

Shabazza
04-13-2007, 11:29 AM
If his half is grass, no way.

Indeed. Everyone who plays on the grass side has a great disadvantage. They don't switch the sides of the court every 3 games?! That's just stupid and unfair. Nadal will have more time to react on his side. Federer's shots and his serve will be slowed down, while Nadal can hit winners past Federer on the way faster grass court with low bounce.
I mean what battle should that be. It's a farce if true.

Alvarillo
04-13-2007, 12:51 PM
:lol: :eek:

Xristos
04-13-2007, 12:55 PM
So does Fed play on the grass?

If so Rafa will get everything back cos he in on the clay side..?

mallorn
04-13-2007, 12:59 PM
I'm not sure how this is going to work :lol: but if they change ends, they will also have to change shoes all the time. :shrug: :lol:

cmurray
04-13-2007, 01:06 PM
this is going to be one of those exhibitions like kid's day at the US Open, where people laugh. I wonder if they're going to get Anna kournikova to be the chair umpire.....


And they'd have to change ends. wouldn't be "fair" otherwise.......

Malul
04-13-2007, 01:06 PM
they will of course play at the same side the whole match,this is a experiment, if it is indeed true, which really should be interesting to see.

probably nadal would win rather easy,returning everything and poor federer have every shot bumping back to him:)

Bobby
04-13-2007, 01:14 PM
I don't think they can change ends, because the risk of injuries would be very very high. So I assume it will be Fed playing on grass and Nadal on clay. And that is just stupid. Federer is better on grass, but the advantage comes from the fact that the opponent has little time to react because of the low and fast bounce of grass. Whereas Nadal would have all the advantage here, because clay would give him all the time in the world to hit his passing shots.

I still don't believe this is happening. But if it does, it's odd that a guy who is suffering from foot problems is ready to go through an extra match like this. And Federer is complaining that the season is too long and he's still ready to include a stupid exhibiton match like this in his schedule.

RonE
04-13-2007, 01:19 PM
A long time ago I thought it would be a fun idea to have a court of which one half is one surface and the other half another surface and to see what happens. I never thought anybody would actually try it in real life :haha:

RonE
04-13-2007, 01:19 PM
By the way, what do you call the surface of such a court- 'Class' or 'Gray'? :p

Kolya
04-13-2007, 01:20 PM
LMAO - That is pretty cool.

Or Levy
04-13-2007, 01:21 PM
It's insane! I mean... there are no words, unless they make a big joke out of it.

Yappa
04-13-2007, 01:21 PM
I don't think that anyone seriously cares how unfair the conditions might be. It's for show, nothing more.

Gulliver
04-13-2007, 01:32 PM
Won't happen. Nadal will pull out 10 minutes before with an injury which he sustained when losing the week before in Barcelona. "I cannot play at 100%, and am very disappointed as this is one of my favourite exhibitions".

cmurray
04-13-2007, 01:33 PM
Won't happen. Nadal will pull out 10 minutes before with an injury which he sustained when losing the week before in Barcelona. "I cannot play at 100%, and am very disappointed as this is one of my favourite exhibitions".

:rolleyes:

Or Levy
04-13-2007, 01:34 PM
Yea, only I don't think Roger would want to put himself in the position of losing on grass to rafa... even if rafa's half is clay :)

Still, should be a lot of fun to see.

Puschkin
04-13-2007, 01:34 PM
I'm not sure how this is going to work :lol: but if they change ends, they will also have to change shoes all the time. :shrug: :lol:
:haha:

scoobs
04-13-2007, 01:47 PM
I'm not sure how this is going to work :lol: but if they change ends, they will also have to change shoes all the time. :shrug: :lol:
Maybe they could completely swap outfits at the changes of ends too - that would certainly significantly add to my interest levels :devil:

Castafiore
04-13-2007, 01:52 PM
I don't think that anyone seriously cares how unfair the conditions might be. It's for show, nothing more.
Exactly.:)

Kitty de Sade
04-13-2007, 02:02 PM
Maybe they could completely swap outfits at the changes of ends too - that would certainly significantly add to my interest levels :devil:

It took you all the way to page 3 for that- I was getting worried for a minute. :lol:

I don't know how it will all pan out, but you can't accuse them of being unoriginal. :)

Adler
04-13-2007, 02:07 PM
:haha:

Conita
04-13-2007, 02:09 PM
how funny!

Yappa
04-13-2007, 02:10 PM
It took you all the way to page 3 for that- I was getting worried for a minute. :lol:

I don't know how it will all pan out, but you can't accuse them of being unoriginal. :)

Well, he probably waited for J'torian to post something like that, but since he didn't, he had to do it in his place. :D

shotgun
04-13-2007, 02:10 PM
Looking at the photo it looks like the court is being divided lenghtwise, so each side of the court would be half-clay, half-grass. Imagine the injury risk, the player is going to slide on the clay and finish the movement on grass. :eek:

MaryWalsh
04-13-2007, 02:28 PM
Don't let Etienne hear about this. I see a horrible idea for a Masters . . .

scoobs
04-13-2007, 02:34 PM
Well, he probably waited for J'torian to post something like that, but since he didn't, he had to do it in his place. :D
Absolutely - I'm the back-up. I respond only if the chief smutmeister fails to respond to the call to the colours :)

adee-gee
04-13-2007, 02:39 PM
:lol: I highly doubt it'll happen, but it'd be great.

They should put their records on the line to make it more competitive. Rafa's unbeaten clay court record or Federer's unbeaten grass court record must go :rocker2: :music:

Or Levy
04-13-2007, 02:59 PM
Hopefully some journalist would pick up on the story and ask Roger or Rafa something about it in the upcoming tournament.

If it's true - we'd know. If it's not true, I'd love to hear their reaction to the concept.

mallorn
04-13-2007, 03:39 PM
Maybe they could completely swap outfits at the changes of ends too - that would certainly significantly add to my interest levels :devil:
:haha: The process of swapping outfits would definitely be interesting :devil: but the idea of Roger in piratas, a sleeveless shirt and a do-rag... :bolt: :haha:


Meanwhile, this is looking increasingly likely, with all major Spanish newspapers reporting the news.

http://espanol.sports.yahoo.com/13042007/54/deportes-nadal-federer-jugar-n-palma-pista-mitad-tierra-mitad.html

http://www.minutouno.com/1/hoy/article/Tenis-mixto:-Federer-y-Nadal-chocan-en-un-partido-raro%5Eid_22158.htm

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/tenis/es/desarrollo/962983.html

http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20070413/NOTICIA287001395.html

etc.

mangoes
04-13-2007, 03:43 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ok Then.............sounds like we're going to be in for a good laugh......

mallorn
04-13-2007, 03:44 PM
Finally news in English:

Each-way decider

Leo Schlink

April 14, 2007 12:00am
Article from: Herald-Sun

INVENTIVE Spanish Government officials have issued Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal, the world's two best tennis players, with the ultimate challenge.

Aware that Swiss Federer is unchallenged on grass and Spaniard Nadal is similarly dominant on clay, Spain has created a hybrid grass and claycourt to test the pair.

Federer, winner of 10 majors, and Nadal, the dual French Open champion, will square off next month on Nadal's island home of Mallorca to decide who really reigns.

An International Management Group official last night confirmed Mallorca interests were building a court comprised of clay and grass.

"As you look at it from the umpire's chair, the court to his right will be made of clay and the court to his left will be grass," the official said.

"This is meant to be fun, but both Roger and Rafa are taking it very seriously. On May 2, in Palma, the King of Grass will face the King of Clay. It will be very interesting."

Nadal has won six of nine matches against Federer -- and has never lost to the world No. 1 on clay.

Federer, frustrated by an inability to combat world No. 2 Nadal's wicked top-spin, has won the pair's past two clashes, including an epic All-England Club final.

But the Swiss maestro has been eliminated at the French Open for the past two years by Nadal, with last season's four-set defeat in the final cutting deep. Off-court, the men are good friends.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21554575-11088,00.html

cmurray
04-13-2007, 03:48 PM
Absolutely - I'm the back-up. I respond only if the chief smutmeister fails to respond to the call to the colours :)

well, thank God there are two of you. we can't let a golden opportunity like this slip by.

Roger in Rafa's sweaty clothes :drool:

jitterbug
04-13-2007, 03:51 PM
"As you look at it from the umpire's chair, the court to his right will be made of clay and the court to his left will be grass," the official said.

Looks like it's not lengthwise then :scratch:

atheneglaukopis
04-13-2007, 03:52 PM
:lol: This has also been predicted, although we got the date wrong.
Shame on him! :mad: And everyone thought he was a sex god. No wonder Rafa left him for Roger.

My suggestion to the troubled couple is to sign up for the Chennai Open in India starting on January 1st. They could combine that with an intensive Kama Sutra workshop. That should solve their bedroom problems while warming up for the AO 07. :D

Maybe he's been too busy being a sex god to devote to Rafa the attention he needs. Either way, shame on him. :(

Definitely time for a Kama Sutra workshop. :yeah:

But on what surface, clay or grass? :awww:

Both. They can take turns dominating.

mallorn
04-13-2007, 03:54 PM
According to this article: http://www.mallorcadiario.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23555&Itemid=33 they will indeed change sides at the end of each set. (Thanks Mamasue ;) )

scoobs
04-13-2007, 03:59 PM
This has GOT to be televised somewhere. I so want to see this.

How does one get to Palma?

decrepitude
04-13-2007, 04:02 PM
How does one get to Palma?

I would suggest an aeroplane, it is a long way to swim.:)

Metis
04-13-2007, 04:05 PM
:lol: This has also been predicted, although we got the date wrong.

:haha:

Someone stole the idea from MTF :(



This is going to be quite an exhibition. Let's all pray for a livestream. :lol:

Kitty de Sade
04-13-2007, 04:05 PM
I would suggest an aeroplane, it is a long way to swim.:)

:lol: :hatoff:

Bobby
04-13-2007, 04:08 PM
According to this article: http://www.mallorcadiario.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23555&Itemid=33 they will indeed change sides at the end of each set. (Thanks Mamasue ;) )

That's awfully risky for a guy who has been complaining about foot problems lately. That's just stupid. I hope Nadal will now stop making comments like "I wasn't completely fit", because this is just asking for trouble.

I just don't understand this. They must be paid quite well, because the risk of an injury is quite big here.

Metis
04-13-2007, 04:15 PM
I just don't understand this. They must be paid quite well, because the risk of an injury is quite big here.

If you ask me, the purpose of this exhibition is to cover up the real reason behind Roger's visit to Mallorca. "What is the real reason?" you may ask :secret:. Simple: Rafa wants him to meet his grandmother. :p

Saumon
04-13-2007, 04:26 PM
If you ask me, the purpose of this exhibition is to cover up the real reason behind Roger's visit to Mallorca. "What is the real reason?" you may ask :secret:. Simple: Rafa wants him to meet his grandmother. :p

:lol:
btw Roger is far from being the first player Rafa invites to Mallorca. I wonder if he shares his small 1 person bed with them. :aplot:

mallorn
04-13-2007, 04:35 PM
According to this article: http://www.mallorcadiario.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23555&Itemid=33 they will indeed change sides at the end of each set. (Thanks Mamasue ;) )

OK, scratch that. :lol:

They'll change ends (and shoes) as usual, in uneven games. :lol:

There's an official site now. :yeah:

http://www.thebattleofsurfaces.com/

scoobs
04-13-2007, 04:39 PM
Where is the channel Antena 3 broadcast - in Spain?

mallorn
04-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Where is the channel Antena 3 broadcast - in Spain?
Yes. Hopefully there'll be a livestream.

Not that it matters to me, I'll be away and will miss the whole thing. :bigcry:

Deivid23
04-13-2007, 04:53 PM
What a joke of exo :tape:

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 04:56 PM
I still don't believe this is happening. But if it does, it's odd that a guy who is suffering from foot problems is ready to go through an extra match like this. And Federer is complaining that the season is too long and he's still ready to include a stupid exhibiton match like this in his schedule.

Couldn't agree with you more. I think it's a very good joke, and it would be fun to watch - but I will have problems with taking either of these guys serious in the future whenever they complain about 'injuries', 'fatigue', 'exhaustion', 'season too long' or anything else.

So - I hope it's a joke. I feel a little double about having to see my favourites act as circus clowns rather than as serious sportsmen!

R.Federer
04-13-2007, 05:02 PM
Funny idea, but ya I would love to watch it.

Yappa
04-13-2007, 05:05 PM
I am sure there'll be a highlights video somewhere, but it would be great if someone could record the Antena 3 broadcast. But who knows, maybe other channels with buy the rights to this.

Wouln't be good for Nadal, if Federer defeated him in straight sets in the Monte Carlo final. And diminish the meaning of the exhibition.

W!MBLEDON
04-13-2007, 05:14 PM
:confused: I dunno. I like the idea. :lol:

Jimnik
04-13-2007, 05:19 PM
Fun idea. :yeah:

mangoes
04-13-2007, 05:27 PM
I'd love to see it, so I hope there will be a livestream.

shotgun
04-13-2007, 05:29 PM
Looks like it's not lengthwise then :scratch:

Gah, lenghtwise would have been much funnier. :p

Shabazza
04-13-2007, 05:34 PM
Gah, lenghtwise would have been much funnier. :p

Both would've hurt their ankles and RG would be open for the rest to take. Funny indeed.

amierin
04-13-2007, 05:38 PM
I still think this is a joke of some kind...

ExpectedWinner
04-13-2007, 05:48 PM
Couldn't agree with you more. I think it's a very good joke, and it would be fun to watch - but I will have problems with taking either of these guys serious in the future whenever they complain about 'injuries', 'fatigue', 'exhaustion', 'season too long' or anything else.

Get real. Any serious practice/fitness session is more taxing on the body than this circus exhibition.

alfonsojose
04-13-2007, 05:50 PM
What an unpleasant circus :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 05:52 PM
Get real. Any serious practice/fitness session is more taxing on the body than this circus exhibition.

But it still remains a silly idea to do this exhibition in the middle of the clay season, where there's so much for both players at stakes don't you think? A half-grass/half-clay court? Unless they'll change shoes every time they switch halves, it seems very tricky to me, even if it's just a circus exhibition (which I agree on).

Anyway, we'll see. I still have to read any a reaction from Fed that he's indeed taking part in this - when I see it, I will believe it... ;)

Or Levy
04-13-2007, 06:04 PM
How on earth they talked Roger into it, I'd never know. Such nonesense before RG?

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 06:08 PM
How on earth they talked Roger into it, I'd never know. Such nonesense before RG?

Have you read any 'official' statement from Rogi that he'll indeed take part in this? I haven't yet... so I still hope it's just a (good!) joke.

R.Federer
04-13-2007, 06:16 PM
How on earth they talked Roger into it, I'd never know. Such nonesense before RG?

Money talks :)

Or Levy
04-13-2007, 06:18 PM
Nope, nothing yet... I would be really surprised if that was true, I would still enjoy seeing it, I'd just wonder what aliens took over his body. that's all :)

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 06:19 PM
Nope, nothing yet... I would be really surprised if that was true, I would still enjoy seeing it, I'd just wonder what aliens took over his body. that's all :)

Me too. And we all know Rogi IS in fact an alien, don't we? ;)

cmurray
04-13-2007, 06:23 PM
How on earth they talked Roger into it, I'd never know. Such nonesense before RG?

$$$$$

Roger and Rafa are tennis whores. :lol:

Burrow
04-13-2007, 06:24 PM
Roger is a better player than Rafael Nadal, Roger plays better on grass than Rafael Nadal plays on clay, simple as that.

Kitty de Sade
04-13-2007, 06:29 PM
$$$$$

Roger and Rafa are tennis whores. :lol:

No way! Roger is a saint, and Rafa's a virgin. God told me so. :angel:

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 06:32 PM
No way! Roger is a saint, and Rafa's a virgin. God told me so. :angel:

:lol: - some of their fans really seem to believe that... :rolleyes:

At least there's one thing we can now agree on: when it comes to money-whoring, Rog and Raf are equally bad... :devil: :angel:

JackPumpkinHead
04-13-2007, 06:33 PM
I dont think they will be playing real hard. This will be like when Andre and Roger played each other for the Tsunami Relief and they joked about each others hair and lack of during points. So I dont feel there is a reason to worry about injury. Just something fun for the fans

Kitty de Sade
04-13-2007, 06:35 PM
:lol: - some of their fans really seem to believe that... :rolleyes:

At least there's one thing we can now agree on: when it comes to money-whoring, Rog and Raf are equally bad... :devil: :angel:

The two most indiscriminate pitch men on the planet. God love them both. :lol: :yeah:

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 06:38 PM
The two most indiscriminate pitch men on the planet. God love them both. :lol: :yeah:

Well, if bank accounts are any indication of how much one is loved by God, they surely are very much loved indeed. :lol:

cmurray
04-13-2007, 06:39 PM
No way! Roger is a saint, and Rafa's a virgin. God told me so. :angel:

:haha:

What's funny about that is that some of our esteemed posters actually believe these two things are true. One of the most amusing threads I've ever participated in featured an over-zealous Rafatard trying to convince me that "yes Rafa IS a virgin. His parents say so!" Because, you know, every time I had sex as a teenager, I IMMEDIATELY went home and told my parents all about it. "Mom. Dad. I just wanted to let you know that I had the most amazing coitus last night in the back seat of my Kia......." :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 06:41 PM
:haha:

What's funny about that is that some of our esteemed posters actually believe these two things are true. One of the most amusing threads I've ever participated in featured an over-zealous Rafatard trying to convince me that "yes Rafa IS a virgin. His parents say so!" Because, you know, every time I had sex as a teenager, I IMMEDIATELY went home and told my parents all about it. "Mom. Dad. I just wanted to let you know that I had the most amazing coitus last night in the back seat of my Kia......." :rolleyes:

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Dearest Heavens, NO!!! Can you dig up that thread for me? I'm in serious need of a real good laugh!

Poor Xisca, nearly two years of deprivation already! :angel:

Kitty de Sade
04-13-2007, 06:46 PM
:haha:

What's funny about that is that some of our esteemed posters actually believe these two things are true. One of the most amusing threads I've ever participated in featured an over-zealous Rafatard trying to convince me that "yes Rafa IS a virgin. His parents say so!" Because, you know, every time I had sex as a teenager, I IMMEDIATELY went home and told my parents all about it. "Mom. Dad. I just wanted to let you know that I had the most amazing coitus last night in the back seat of my Kia......." :rolleyes:

I don't know where to start with this post! Someone didn't really do that, did they?! :haha:

I could really be graphic here, but Rafa is still so young, and I'm so...not, eh- I'll behave myself at the risk of being more of a pervert than necessary. :p

Holy mackerel, what is up with people? I'd love to know what your response was (if you bothered.) His parents say so...what did they do, check his underwear drawer for evidence? :scratch:

Metis
04-13-2007, 06:47 PM
You guys :rolleyes:, of course Rafa is a virgin! Oral sex doesn't count :tape: :tape: :tape:

:lol:



So, to get back on topic, I was wondering: has any player ever been injured during an exhibition?

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 06:53 PM
So, to get back on topic, I was wondering: has any player ever been injured during an exhibition?

Not that I can remember - but playing in such a silly circus exhibition in the middle of the clay season where there are such high expectations set on both players, and one of them having already complained about (minor) injuries, on a phoney surface like that, just doesn't sound like a wise idea to me. :unsure:

Anyway, if they go ahead with it, I hope they'll be having as much fun as we will have watching it.

yana
04-13-2007, 06:55 PM
Not that I can remember - but playing in such a silly circus exhibition in the middle of the clay season where there are such high expectations set on both players, and one of them having already complained about (minor) injuries, on a phoney surface like that, just doesn't sound like a wise idea to me. :unsure:

Anyway, if they go ahead with it, I hope they'll be having as much fun as we will have watching it.

I so wanna see this silly circus exhibition. :bigclap:
Clown Roger and clown Rafa...

mangoes
04-13-2007, 06:56 PM
:haha:

What's funny about that is that some of our esteemed posters actually believe these two things are true. One of the most amusing threads I've ever participated in featured an over-zealous Rafatard trying to convince me that "yes Rafa IS a virgin. His parents say so!" Because, you know, every time I had sex as a teenager, I IMMEDIATELY went home and told my parents all about it. "Mom. Dad. I just wanted to let you know that I had the most amazing coitus last night in the back seat of my Kia......." :rolleyes:

:haha: :haha: :haha: Yes, I remember reading that thread :haha: :haha: I can't believe that there were grown women actually believing Rafa was a virgin:o :o


How on earth they talked Roger into it, I'd never know. Such nonesense before RG?


Money and then Rafa called Roger begging............"Pretty Please Rogelio with sprinkles, nuts and a cherry on top........." as in a sundae for all you dirty minds:lol: :lol:

jayjay
04-13-2007, 06:57 PM
Not that I can remember - but playing in such a silly circus exhibition in the middle of the clay season where there are such high expectations set on both players, and one of them having already complained about (minor) injuries, on a phoney surface like that, just doesn't sound like a wise idea to me. :unsure:


Agreed, I'm surprised it's happening when it is - although given that it will be not long before both the French Open and Wimbledon, it could be argued it is a great time from an advertising point of view for such a match, with the perfect time being post RG, pre Wimbledon (if there was a gap between FO and Queens/Halle which obviously at present there is not).

I'm curious to see how it all pans out like everyone (hopefully there will be net access, you'd think there will be).

cmurray
04-13-2007, 06:57 PM
I don't know where to start with this post! Someone didn't really do that, did they?! :haha:

I could really be graphic here, but Rafa is still so young, and I'm so...not, eh- I'll behave myself at the risk of being more of a pervert than necessary. :p

Holy mackerel, what is up with people? I'd love to know what your response was (if you bothered.) His parents say so...what did they do, check his underwear drawer for evidence? :scratch:

As if I could make up something that bizarre. Yes, somebody really said that to me. :haha:

What's funny is that I'm not completely sure HOW this particular poster knew what Rafa's parents thought about his sex life. I mean, it isn't like some reporter went to them and said, "So, has your son ever done the nasty??" (at least I hope not :unsure: )

When I posed that question, the answer I got was "They said he's a good boy" or some such thing like that. I guess only the bad ones have sex :shrug:. There was also some blathering on about him being Catholic.

I was tempted (of course) to start laughing maniacally, but you simply never know how old Rafa's fans might be. I didn't want to scar a 12 year old. So I backed out of whatever "Xisca isn't good enough for our baby" thread and never re-entered. :lol:

soraya
04-13-2007, 06:58 PM
hmmmm! Roger going to Mallorca, the Nadal's den? :aplot:I bet it was uncle Tony's idea.:aplot:

yana
04-13-2007, 06:59 PM
Rafa called Roger begging............"Pretty Please Rogelio with sprinkles, nuts and a cherry on top........." as in a sundae for all you dirty minds:lol: :lol:

What wouldn't Fed do in the name of love? :hearts:

Bobby
04-13-2007, 07:02 PM
Get real. Any serious practice/fitness session is more taxing on the body than this circus exhibition.

The point is that they would have an opportunity to rest and take it easy if they are not playing any tournament that week. After all, the clay season is very consuming. Still, these two rather play an exhibition on a surface which is not very safe. Even if they change shoes, a sudden change of surface is not an easy thing to do.

Of course a normal practice/fitness session has some risks as well. But this risk is totally unnecessary. It's difficult to take it seriously when Federer says that the season is too long, if he's not ready to recharge his batteries when he has the chance to do so.

scoobs
04-13-2007, 07:03 PM
The timing might seem a little strange but it's not a week either of them are playing and I'm sure they're going to be as careful as possible and not take big risks.

I've not had any joy finding a live feed for Antena 3, unfortunately, so far - so hopefully better eyes than mine can find something, or one becomes available, or another source is found.

ExpectedWinner
04-13-2007, 07:17 PM
Of course a normal practice/fitness session has some risks as well. But this risk is totally unnecessary. It's difficult to take it seriously when Federer says that the season is too long, if he's not ready to recharge his batteries when he has the chance to do so.

I'd say this exhibition is a waste of time, but it won't cause any tragical effect on their health. There's no need to run after each and every ball, they'll manage the odd surface.

What does it have to do with the long season? This exhibition can not be taken seriously; it's a show, a goofy event, it won't kill them physically/mentally.

Kitty de Sade
04-13-2007, 07:34 PM
As if I could make up something that bizarre. Yes, somebody really said that to me. :haha:

What's funny is that I'm not completely sure HOW this particular poster knew what Rafa's parents thought about his sex life. I mean, it isn't like some reporter went to them and said, "So, has your son ever done the nasty??" (at least I hope not :unsure: )

When I posed that question, the answer I got was "They said he's a good boy" or some such thing like that. I guess only the bad ones have sex :shrug:. There was also some blathering on about him being Catholic.

I was tempted (of course) to start laughing maniacally, but you simply never know how old Rafa's fans might be. I didn't want to scar a 12 year old. So I backed out of whatever "Xisca isn't good enough for our baby" thread and never re-entered. :lol:

Thank god Chicago is warm and sunny today- I took my dog on an extra long walk and thought about the thread you mentioned. I realized that you had the right idea, and handled it with grace and tact. I would have been tempted to lock the caps key...but then at my age, I have no desire to argue about sex with a little kid. Talk about leading a lamb to the slaughter. :haha:

If they need to hang onto the notion that Rafa is pure and chaste, god speed. The Catholic thing is nonsense though. I am Italian-Roman Catholic too, as well as a product of an overly religious upbringing- so that's a flawed argument on their part. :angel:

Sorry if I am a little late to the party on this, I don't really keep track. Xisca is the name of Nadal's girlfriend, yes?

hmmmm! Roger going to Mallorca, the Nadal's den? :aplot:I bet it was uncle Tony's idea.:aplot:

Toni Nadal is hot- I was just looking for an excuse to write that down. Thanks soraya! :hatoff:

cmurray
04-13-2007, 07:48 PM
Thank god Chicago is warm and sunny today- I took my dog on an extra long walk and thought about the thread you mentioned. I realized that you had the right idea, and handled it with grace and tact. I would have been tempted to lock the caps key...but then at my age, I have no desire to argue about sex with a little kid. Talk about leading a lamb to the slaughter. :haha:

If they need to hang onto the notion that Rafa is pure and chaste, god speed. The Catholic thing is nonsense though. I am Italian-Roman Catholic too, as well as a product of an overly religious upbringing- so that's a flawed argument on their part. :angel:

Sorry if I am a little late to the party on this, I don't really keep track. Xisca is the name of Nadal's girlfriend, yes?



Toni Nadal is hot- I was just looking for an excuse to write that down. Thanks soraya! :hatoff:



Yep, Xisca is Rafa's girlfriend.

I'm pretty sure that the person who wrote that stuff wasn't 12, but since its rafa, one can never be certain. :lol:

Also, I think Uncle Toni is hottttt. I added a pic of him when he was younger. (the second one holding Rafa as a baby). And, since we're talking about the Nadal men, I included one of his uncle Miguel Angel. The Nadal men are all smokin'. :devil:

Kitty de Sade
04-13-2007, 07:56 PM
Yep, Xisca is Rafa's girlfriend.

I'm pretty sure that the person who wrote that stuff wasn't 12, but since its rafa, one can never be certain. :lol:

Also, I think Uncle Toni is hottttt. I added a pic of him when he was younger. (the second one holding Rafa as a baby). And, since we're talking about the Nadal men, I included one of his uncle Miguel Angel. The Nadal men are all smokin'. :devil:

Great pictures! Please point me in the direction of any more if you find them. :)

I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who had an itch for Uncle Toni. Good to know I am not the only one. And yes, MA is a stone cold fox. Wow...

I would love to pull the trigger on assenting about Rafa, but the age thing stops me. Feeling dirty is a great thing, but in his case I'd feel like that middle aged, gut sporting, comb over guy who wears too many gold chains and those tacky polyester shirts that are unbuttoned to the navel. :p

Johnny Groove
04-13-2007, 07:58 PM
sounds great. :lol:

And for the people who say its meaningless, injury, whatever, damn, open your eyes and have some fun would ya? what else is gonna happen in the munich/Estoril week? Fat Dave's rally in Cordoba? Dima doing another Estoril blog?

Wouln't be good for Nadal, if Federer defeated him in straight sets in the Monte Carlo final. And diminish the meaning of the exhibition.

Yeah, because all evidence points to THIS definately occuring :rolleyes:

scoobs
04-13-2007, 08:02 PM
sounds great. :lol:

And for the people who say its meaningless, injury, whatever, damn, open your eyes and have some fun would ya? what else is gonna happen in the munich/Estoril week? Fat Dave's rally in Cordoba? Dima doing another Estoril blog?



Yeah, because all evidence points to THIS definately occuring :rolleyes:
There's no evidence to point to anything occuring yet - Rafa has played 2 meaningless exo matches and Roger has yet to play on clay. It takes a prophet of some skill to predict the outcome of any match between them on this little evidence.

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 08:03 PM
sounds great. :lol:

And for the people who say its meaningless, injury, whatever, damn, open your eyes and have some fun would ya? what else is gonna happen in the munich/Estoril week? Fat Dave's rally in Cordoba? Dima doing another Estoril blog?

Hmmm. It depends on what one likes to see and on one's perception of fun, I guess. Speaking for myself, I rather see my two favourites act as serious sportsmen than as circus acts.

Each to his/her own - but everyone here is entitled to his/her opinion, and that includes the people who have brought along some sensible reasons why this might not be such a good idea, too. ;)

rofe
04-13-2007, 08:07 PM
Bad idea. I hope Roger (and Nadal) re-think this. Make no mistake, this will be a competitive match so the risk of injury will be high.

Johnny Groove
04-13-2007, 08:09 PM
Hmmm. It depends on what one likes to see and on one's perception of fun, I guess. Speaking for myself, I rather see my two favourites act as serious sportsmen than as circus acts.

Each to his/her own - but everyone here is entitled to his/her opinion, and that includes the people who have brought along some sensible reasons why this might not be such a good idea, too. ;)

I see your point and i can see how people think its not such a good idea, but for me, i think its all in great fun.

and scoobs, i know that Fed and Nadal have yet to play a clay match this year, but it doesnt take a prophet to know that Federer will definintely not beat Nadal in straight sets in MC. Its just not gonna happen.

cmurray
04-13-2007, 08:11 PM
Great pictures! Please point me in the direction of any more if you find them. :)

I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who had an itch for Uncle Toni. Good to know I am not the only one. And yes, MA is a stone cold fox. Wow...

I would love to pull the trigger on assenting about Rafa, but the age thing stops me. Feeling dirty is a great thing, but in his case I'd feel like that middle aged, gut sporting, comb over guy who wears too many gold chains and those tacky polyester shirts that are unbuttoned to the navel. :p

:haha:

I don't let a little thing like age stop me from drooling. He's almost 21 - that's old enough for me! :lol: Though I will agree that he will probably be MUCH hotter at, say, 40 than he is even now. I don't know if you've ever seen his mom or sister, but they're gorgeous too. Good genes in that family.

scoobs
04-13-2007, 08:11 PM
I see your point and i can see how people think its not such a good idea, but for me, i think its all in great fun.

and scoobs, i know that Fed and Nadal have yet to play a clay match this year, but it doesnt take a prophet to know that Federer will definintely not beat Nadal in straight sets in MC. Its just not gonna happen.
Highly unlikely, I'll grant you.

Definite? Nope.

Johnny Groove
04-13-2007, 08:13 PM
Highly unlikely, I'll grant you.

Definite? Nope.

ok. You have your opinion, i have mine. I think its definitely not going to happen.

cmurray
04-13-2007, 08:14 PM
Highly unlikely, I'll grant you.

Definite? Nope.

Yep. It was definite that Roger was going to put the beatdown on Canas the second time they met. You just never know. :shrug:

scoobs
04-13-2007, 08:16 PM
ok. You have your opinion, i have mine. I think its definitely not going to happen.
What if Roger snatched the first set, the second was close, Rafa picked up an injury and tried to play it out but lost the second too? Only a best of 3 final this year after all.

Nothing's definite.

yana
04-13-2007, 08:16 PM
Fat Dave's rally in Cordoba?

Actually I would like to know a litte something about this... :p

Johnny Groove
04-13-2007, 08:21 PM
What if Roger snatched the first set, the second was close, Rafa picked up an injury and tried to play it out but lost the second too? Only a best of 3 final this year after all.

Nothing's definite.

O really? best of 3 sets? I thought it was 5 :o Well then, I'll have to say that its not completely out of the realm of possibilty then.

Actually I would like to know a litte something about this... :p

Nalbandian owns a rally team, Tango rally, and the world rally championships has a race near Cordoba on the Friday/Sat/Sunday weekend of the Estoril week. That is the reason he pulled out of Estoril this year.

yana
04-13-2007, 08:23 PM
Nalbandian owns a rally team, Tango rally, and the world rally championships has a race near Cordoba on the Friday/Sat/Sunday weekend of the Estoril week. That is the reason he pulled out of Estoril this year.

Thanks.

Or Levy
04-13-2007, 08:29 PM
:haha:

What's funny about that is that some of our esteemed posters actually believe these two things are true. One of the most amusing threads I've ever participated in featured an over-zealous Rafatard trying to convince me that "yes Rafa IS a virgin. His parents say so!" Because, you know, every time I had sex as a teenager, I IMMEDIATELY went home and told my parents all about it. "Mom. Dad. I just wanted to let you know that I had the most amazing coitus last night in the back seat of my Kia......." :rolleyes:

Rafa, a virgin? Bahahahaha, who exactly came up with that idea?

ExpectedWinner
04-13-2007, 08:30 PM
, this will be a competitive match so the risk of injury will be high.

It's not possible on this surface.

soraya
04-13-2007, 08:44 PM
Bad idea. I hope Roger (and Nadal) re-think this. Make no mistake, this will be a competitive match so the risk of injury will be high.


I agree, with both ego's on the line.

kobulingam
04-13-2007, 08:51 PM
Let's map out the Rafa's schedule:

[Before Dubai: Rafa reinjures foot and now has same nagging injury that almost ended his career and made him skip several months of tennis... should he pull out of Dubai as a precaution? No. Let him run around like a rabbit on the ultra fast hard court that is neither a slam nor a TMS... ]
-Rafa plays in Dubai
-Rafa plays in IW
- wins IW while showing supreme form and quickness
-Rafa plays in Miami
-before JMDP match, team Rafa schedules a foot injury for DC tie against US (note: foot injury is supposedly of the SAME serious type that almost ended his career, and appeared BEFORE Dubai)
-Rafa beats JMDP and runs around like a rabbit against Djokovic
-Rafa rests a few days in Mallorca and watches US crush Spain
-Rafa plays clay court exhibition in Mallorca which supposed equals that "rest" Rafa needed because of his foot injury
-Rafa rests a few days
-Rafa plays Monte Carlo
-Rafa takes next plane to Barcelona and plays that tournament
-Rafa takes next plane to Mallorca, a day or two off to rest
-Rafa plays stupid clay/grass match against Roger
- switching surfaces like this risks injury, but Rafa should be fine because all he has is that nagging foot injury that almost ended his career, and his joints should be fine after playing 2 huge clay tournaments in a row and all that plane travel :confused:
- Rafa now has to take plane to Rome, few days off before it starts


I am a HUGE Rafa fan, which makes me angry at his handlers. They are friggen idiots I tell you. He needs to hire some professionals.
Switching surfaces like is a HUUUGGGEEE risk to lower joints - ask anyone who knows best. Clearly nobody in Team Rafa knows much about tennis (except Rafa).

kobulingam
04-13-2007, 08:54 PM
Bad idea. I hope Roger (and Nadal) re-think this. Make no mistake, this will be a competitive match so the risk of injury will be high.

It doesn't have to be a competitive match. They're (especially Nadal, see my post above) risking injury even if they play a "normal Exhibition level" match.

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 08:58 PM
I am a HUGE Rafa fan, which makes me angry at his handlers. They are friggen idiots I tell you. He needs to hire some professionals.
Switching surfaces like is a HUUUGGGEEE risk to lower joints - ask anyone who knows best. Clearly nobody in Team Rafa knows much about tennis (except Rafa).

I sadly have to agree with you - the more I start thinking about this whole thing, the more I must conclude that it's a not just a silly, but even a rather bad idea. For both players involved I dare add.

Alas - it's not just that $$$$$$ makes the world go round - at times it also becomes clear how much it's also indeed the root of all evil. :rolleyes:

I'm still hoping it's all just a joke.

ExpectedWinner
04-13-2007, 08:59 PM
I agree, with both ego's on the line.

:rolleyes: For ego measurement purposes, let's make them run 1500 m on asphalt. One will wear ice hockey skates, the other will be on skis. This idea is almost as "fair" as clay/grass court.

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 09:01 PM
:rolleyes: For ego measurement purposes, let's make them run 1500 m on asphalt. One will wear ice hockey skates, the other will be on skis. This idea is almost as fair as clay/grass court.

:lol: And as 'good' for their lower joints, too... ;)

kobulingam
04-13-2007, 09:01 PM
I sadly have to agree with you - the more I start thinking about this whole thing, the more I must conclude that it's a not just a silly, but even a rather bad idea. For both players involved I dare add.

Alas - it's not just that $$$$$$ makes the world go round - at times it also becomes clear how much it's also indeed the root of all evil. :rolleyes:

I'm still hoping it's all just a joke.

Not a big deal for Roger since he has no nagging injures, has barely played in the last few months, and isn't planning to play Barcelona (2 week break for him). It's still a stupid idea for Roger to disrupt his claycourt schedule to make a trip to Mallorca for this stupid event (which should be held after Wimbledon).

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 09:05 PM
Not a big deal for Roger since he has no nagging injures, has barely played in the last few months, and isn't planning to play Barcelona (2 week break for him). It's still a stupid idea for Roger to disrupt his claycourt schedule to make a trip to Mallorca for this stupid event (which should be held after Wimbledon).

Indeed. Regarding Rogi's ambition to win the RG this year - a thing he has never managed for a reason - he'll have to be at his Very Best to have a chance to defeat Rafa there, and as such it is as equally stupid for Rogi as it is for injury-prone Rafa. If anything, postpone this event till after Wimbly, indeed.

D Optimist
04-13-2007, 09:19 PM
Finally we'll know who is the really nr.1 . Ha,ha !:D

Or Levy
04-13-2007, 09:20 PM
I vote for after Wimby as well, much less stress for both players, then it could REALLY be fun...

They are just insane to do that before RG, whoever loses this one would go into RG with lower confidence to be sure, no matter how little we think about the importence of Exhibition matches, never mind this freak show (which I still want to watch, somoene has to tape it and put on youtube, even if there is no live stream!)

mangoes
04-13-2007, 09:27 PM
Bad idea. I hope Roger (and Nadal) re-think this. Make no mistake, this will be a competitive match so the risk of injury will be high.

You're right. Nadal is going to want to win in front of his home crowd and Roger will not want to lose in front of Nadal's home crowd. One would hope that they just have a little fun with this exhibition, but the reality is that this will be a competitive match:(

Sunset of Age
04-13-2007, 09:33 PM
There would indeed be a lot less tension if the exho were played on neutral terrain, indeed... like the Seoul exhibition last year where they indeed seemed to be able to have fun. I doubt that will be the case at this event, for the reasons Mangoes already mentioned.

Merton
04-13-2007, 09:35 PM
I doubt there will be any tension for this exhibition, this is simply a circus event with Roger and Rafa acting as the clowns. Obviously they must be paid well enough to do this.

Jlee
04-13-2007, 09:37 PM
How would that work? Federer likes the grass courts partly because of what the ball does on the other side of the court, right? As in, the clay court side in this situation. :lol: Same with Rafa and clay.

They should be careful, they're giving Mr. Disney more ideas. :unsure:

Marek.
04-13-2007, 09:38 PM
Nalbandian owns a rally team, Tango rally, and the world rally championships has a race near Cordoba on the Friday/Sat/Sunday weekend of the Estoril week. That is the reason he pulled out of Estoril this year.

Did he really pull out of Estoril this year? Good job fat Dave, great preparation for Rome and RG.:yeah:

Richard_from_Cal
04-13-2007, 09:39 PM
Not surprising that on the site, the ballotting is going Rafa's way, currently.--I mean, what with the exo being played in his 'hometown.'

ExpectedWinner
04-13-2007, 09:41 PM
You're right. Nadal is going to want to win in front of his home crowd and Roger will not want to lose in front of Nadal's home crowd. One would hope that they just have a little fun with this exhibition, but the reality is that this will be a competitive match:(

Then instead of playing RG, both need to check into a psychiatric clinic.

If they wanted a competitive match, a normal court should have been chosen. The Clay/grass combo makes this event a farce ( see msg#15,16, 17 in this thread).

mangoes
04-13-2007, 10:08 PM
Then instead of playing RG, both need to check into a psychiatric clinic.

If they wanted a competitive match, a normal court should have been chosen. The Clay/grass combo makes this event a farce ( see msg#15,16, 17 in this thread).

We'll see what happens. I really hope this is some fun, silly exhibition...........

Realistically, I'd never question the competitive nature of this if it were being held in a city outside of Spain and Switzerland. But throw in the home crowd, and things may get slightly out of hand.

I hope neither one is tempted to make this competitive and the exhibition is just what you say it will be EW.

mangoes
04-13-2007, 10:11 PM
How would that work? Federer likes the grass courts partly because of what the ball does on the other side of the court, right? As in, the clay court side in this situation. :lol: Same with Rafa and clay.

They should be careful, they're giving Mr. Disney more ideas. :unsure:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ChinoRios4Ever
04-13-2007, 10:42 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

this will be so funny to watch :)

Kalliopeia
04-13-2007, 11:52 PM
Roger in Rafa's sweaty clothes :drool:

Oh, like it'd be the first time. :lol:

Couldn't agree with you more. I think it's a very good joke, and it would be fun to watch - but I will have problems with taking either of these guys serious in the future whenever they complain about 'injuries', 'fatigue', 'exhaustion', 'season too long' or anything else.

Oh come on it's just one match, a best of three, and both of them are smart enough to know that going all out to win would be pointless and potentially hazardous. I"m sure they'll both want to win but I can't see either of them making a big deal of it. It's not like, with this gimmicky court, there are reputations on the line or anything.



I am a HUGE Rafa fan, which makes me angry at his handlers. They are friggen idiots I tell you. He needs to hire some professionals.
Switching surfaces like is a HUUUGGGEEE risk to lower joints - ask anyone who knows best. Clearly nobody in Team Rafa knows much about tennis (except Rafa).

Well I think you're assuming that they just tell him what to do. I'm sure if he didn't want to do it, he wouldn't. He's careful enough about injuries to pull out of Davis Cup, even though he must have known the uproar it'd cause. He's smart enough to assess the risks, and smart enough to know just how seriously to take a match like this. Which is not very.

As someone who gets bored with Roger's cool, mostly emotionless persona on court, I'm really really looking froward to seeing them playing a match that is so purely silly and meant for fun. I hope they have a great time with it.

If anyone finds a stream, please please post it!

Sunset of Age
04-14-2007, 12:03 AM
Oh come on it's just one match, a best of three, and both of them are smart enough to know that going all out to win would be pointless and potentially hazardous. I"m sure they'll both want to win but I can't see either of them making a big deal of it. It's not like, with this gimmicky court, there are reputations on the line or anything.


I beg to be allowed to have a different opinion on this... and this gimmicky court may not be taken seriously when it comes to their reputations, but having this event happen in the middle of the clay court season when there's so much at stake for the both of them, lest risk of injuries and fatigue, still seems a silly idea to me.

But then again - we'll see what happens. I trust them to be able to lower their ego-awareness and have a bit of fun (I see no reason why they wouldn't, no).
And of course - should this indeed happen, I'm looking forward to watching it.

(at least I hope all that silly babble about them not getting along with each other will be off thereafter - that may well be a great benefit of it all... :))

nobama
04-14-2007, 02:47 AM
Bad idea. I hope Roger (and Nadal) re-think this. Make no mistake, this will be a competitive match so the risk of injury will be high.God I hope not. If that's the case the both need to have their heads examined. :o

Kalliopeia
04-14-2007, 03:39 AM
I beg to be allowed to have a different opinion on this... )

Oh well I suppose I'll allow it, just this once. ;) :D

*Viva Chile*
04-14-2007, 04:20 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen: This will be the new greatest idea of Mr. Disney, "create a tourney with a mix surface" :tape:

Also I found this, a pic of how the court will look ;)

http://img.emol40.elmercurio.com/2007/04/13/File_200741311257.jpg

refero*fervens
04-14-2007, 05:01 AM
Here's some goodies from the official website :eek: :

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal are Nº 1 and Nº 2 on the world; they have become the classic duel of the decade and their styles are completely different, although both very attractive. A breathless struggle for glory.

Like Different Worlds

There are more tournaments held on red clay courts, where the game is slower, varied and strategic. There are only six tournaments held on grass courts, and it is the players with good serves and strong return shots that are predominant here.

Within the four types of surface that dominate the professional tennis circuit, two are the ones we are concerned with in “The Battle”: red clay and grass. Cement and synthetic courts will be left out on this occasion...

PALMA DE MALLORCA, April 13th. 2007.- “The Battle of the Surfaces” is a unique event that has never taken place before in the history of tennis. Its protagonists will be the two best players in the world: Roger Federer, from Switzerland and Rafael Nadal, from Spain. The match will be played on May 2nd at the Palma Arena in Palma de Malloca, a venue recently inaugurated, and which will have the peculiarity of having half the court of clay and half grass.

We are referring to two authentic specialists. Federer is the King on grass courts and the last Wimbledon champion, where he has won consecutively between 2003 and 2006. Nadal is King on clay courts; champion during the last two seasons at Roland Garros. Thus, the two who govern the PTA circuit will come face to face playing on their preferred surfaces.

The characteristics of the match will be normal. That is, it will be played to the best of three sets with the usual changes of side, in uneven games. And it will enable us to discover a so far unanswered question: Who would have won “The Battle of Surfaces” between the best Boris Becker or Pete Sampras against the best Sergi Bruguera or Carlos Moyá? Impossible to know because the time for the “Battle of Surfaces” has gone by. But now we are in a position to reveal the mystery by measuring the forces of Federer and Nadal, the kings of grass and clay.

This initiative began with an idea by Pablo Del Campo, president of Del Campo Saatchi & Saatchi, the number 1 agency in Iberoamérica for its performance in advertising creativity, and with the support of the Govern des illes Balears.

“The Battle of the Surfaces”, much more than just a match.

This is starting to look less and less like a joke...:haha: :unsure:

brent-o
04-14-2007, 05:40 AM
They would have to, the guy standing on the clay side has a huge advantage.

Just what I was thinking. The ball will bounce up high as it does on clay, allowing whoever is on that side to take a real swing at the ball and make it travel on the fast grass. While the grass guy is really screwed.

spencercarlos
04-14-2007, 06:24 AM
Just what I was thinking. The ball will bounce up high as it does on clay, allowing whoever is on that side to take a real swing at the ball and make it travel on the fast grass. While the grass guy is really screwed.
Exactly the whole idea is simply silly and stupid. If anything they should have switched and make Federer play on clay and Nadal on grass why? Because when you are a master of an especific surface is because you are better than the other guy is on that particular surface.

Just imagine Sampras for example playing this exhibition and being on the grass court and then think his grass court record is being exposed when the other guy is playing on clay, and all of his big serves and flat groundies that are lethal on the other player´s grass court will be taken away :rolleyes: .

I don´t know what these spaniards are thinking.

scoobs
04-14-2007, 09:28 AM
I can't believe this will be too competitive

For one thing I'd be surprised if the quality of the tennis is all that high.

Adjusting to a different ball speed, ball bounce height and different movement every TWO GAMES - there'll be more mishits than they'll know what to do with.

bokehlicious
04-14-2007, 09:48 AM
That will be ugly tennis...

kisses
04-14-2007, 10:23 AM
I'm shocked to know it's not a joke :eek: :confused:

Kalliopeia
04-14-2007, 10:29 AM
I can't believe this will be too competitive

For one thing I'd be surprised if the quality of the tennis is all that high.

Adjusting to a different ball speed, ball bounce height and different movement every TWO GAMES - there'll be more mishits than they'll know what to do with.

Exactly. It's a show, not a tennis match, not really. I think people are taking it way too seriously.

I just realized that even if there is a live stream it's on a Wednesday and I won't be able to see it anyway. :sad:

adee-gee
04-14-2007, 10:37 AM
:lol: I wonder how many times in this thread someone has said "I can't believe".......

I can't believe it's not butter :p

People should stop getting their knickers in a twist, I'm sure it won't be serious and I'm pretty sure both know the risks involved and will be careful.

Eden
04-14-2007, 11:56 AM
I'm surprised about the date of such an event in the middle of the season. Hopefully they will broadcast the match, so that we can have a look how it works out for the players to have two different surfaces on a court. Lets hope the guys take care of themselves and have a good time. To everyone who is going to attend the event: Have fun :wavey:

nobama
04-14-2007, 12:36 PM
:lol: I wonder how many times in this thread someone has said "I can't believe".......

I can't believe it's not butter :p

People should stop getting their knickers in a twist, I'm sure it won't be serious and I'm pretty sure both know the risks involved and will be careful.
Appaarently is it's a best of three set match. Even if it's not serious there's still high probability for injury. They should do something like this at the end of the season, not right before RG.

trixtah
04-14-2007, 06:48 PM
I want to see them slide on grass and serve-volley on clay. :hearts: It will be beauteous. :devil:

that would be hilarious to see someone fall on their ass "oops, shit! forgot this side of the court was grass." What's lame is that this thing is before the french

Burrow
04-14-2007, 07:50 PM
Exactly. It's a show, not a tennis match, not really. I think people are taking it way too seriously.
I just realized that even if there is a live stream it's on a Wednesday and I won't be able to see it anyway. :sad:

You are just saying that because if they were going all out, Federer would hammer Nadal.

peripheral
04-15-2007, 04:30 AM
Definitely not a joke. Here's what Roger has to say on his official website:

"We are both looking forward to this absolutely new event. The idea really appeals to me as we both dominate one of the surfaces. Rafa holds the record of 62 victories in series on clay and I have note been defeated on grass since 48 matches. It'll be fun to find out what it's like to play on a court with mixed surfaces! And it ought to be interesting to see who chooses the better tactic.
People have been talking about this event for quite a while. Now it's coming up pretty soon already and I like the fact that the stadium - which is very nice, by the way - is located on Majorca, Rafa's home. He has been to Basel, after all, and now I've got the opportunity to play at his place for once."

soraya
04-15-2007, 04:37 AM
Let me say it too, I can not believe it!

NyGeL
04-15-2007, 06:19 AM
I guess they won't change sides.

D Optimist
04-15-2007, 06:28 AM
The breaks will be longer for changing shoes...

atheneglaukopis
04-15-2007, 06:41 AM
I know why they're doing it when they are--that's when the Roger-Rafa rivalry is expected to be at its peak and they're hoping to capitalize on that. I don't know that it's wise, but the timing makes sense in that respect.

D Optimist
04-15-2007, 08:27 AM
I know why they're doing it when they are--that's when the Roger-Rafa rivalry is expected to be at its peak and they're hoping to capitalize on that.

You have right ! We the spectators, want to see a real match with a real winner on the same surphace ,not cartoon .

Itachi75
04-15-2007, 03:59 PM
It will be played just like a regular match.

http://www.thebattleofsurfaces.com/

It's gonna be strange to say the least.

Sunset of Age
04-15-2007, 04:20 PM
Even if it's not serious there's still high probability for injury. They should do something like this at the end of the season, not right before RG.

And THAT's exactly the reason why some of us over here think it's not such a good idea, to say the least. None of us have "our knickers in a twist" at all - it's just that some of us DO think about the risks our favourites might be taking in taking part in this clownish tomfoolery.

As for heating up the 'rivalry' - isn't it a better idea to let that happen during the official tournaments? :rolleyes:

LaTenista
04-15-2007, 04:33 PM
As for heating up the 'rivalry' - isn't it a better idea to let that happen during the official tournaments? :rolleyes:

People are getting bored since Rafa and Roger haven't played each other this year. :rolleyes: After all there's no guarantee they will both reach the final of the same tournament again. :tape:

atheneglaukopis
04-15-2007, 04:41 PM
You have right ! We the spectators, want to see a real match with a real winner on the same surphace ,not cartoon .

And THAT's exactly the reason why some of us over here think it's not such a good idea, to say the least. None of us have "our knickers in a twist" at all - it's just that some of us DO think about the risks our favourites might be taking in taking part in this clownish tomfoolery.

As for heating up the 'rivalry' - isn't it a better idea to let that happen during the official tournaments? :rolleyes:
I didn't say it was a good idea. :o I just think it looks like a marketing gimmick to attract people who know little or nothing about tennis--the desired fanbase according to certain people in charge--with something wacky, in the hopes that they'll follow RG & Wimbledon. :rolleyes:

This is why it's not happening after Wimbledon: this isn't intended for Roger & Rafa to relax and have fun. It's intended to build the suspense. (What it will actually accomplish remains to be seen.)

Sunset of Age
04-15-2007, 04:50 PM
I didn't say it was a good idea. :o I just think it looks like a marketing gimmick to attract people who know little or nothing about tennis-- the desired fanbase according to certain people in charge--with something wacky, in the hopes that they'll follow RG & Wimbledon. :rolleyes:


:lol: - I'm sure Mr. Disney is now lambasting himself because he didn't come up the idea himself! Eh... as far as I know, that is... :rolleyes:

this isn't intended for Roger & Rafa to relax and have fun. It's intended to build the suspense. (What it will actually accomplish remains to be seen.)

Good Heavens. If indeed anyone on this planet takes this thing serious, I'm afraid I'll have to give up on humanity! If anything, I hope the two will indeed relax and have fun with this - and I expect they will. ;)

atheneglaukopis
04-15-2007, 05:04 PM
:lol: - I'm sure Mr. Disney is now lambasting himself because he didn't come up the idea himself! Eh... as far as I know, that is... :rolleyes: It does feel like one of his ideas, but he's not taking the credit for it...:scratch:...so I'm not sure.

Good Heavens. If indeed anyone on this planet takes this thing serious, I'm afraid I'll have to give up on humanity! If anything, I hope the two will indeed relax and have fun with this - and I expect they will. ;)Oh, I'm sure both are smart enough to do that--and it's not as if the quality of the tennis will be high. I'm ju$t pointing out, perhap$ cynically, that tournament$, exhibition$, what-have-you, are rarely de$igned with the player$ in mind.

In the first place, I will not be surprised if someone on the planet takes this seriously (again, maybe cynically, given some of the specimens of humanity I've encountered). In the second place, just because we the MTF brain trust can see that something isn't a great idea, doesn't mean The Powers That Be don't think the fans or potential fans will fall for love it.

mallorn
04-15-2007, 05:06 PM
And THAT's exactly the reason why some of us over here think it's not such a good idea, to say the least. None of us have "our knickers in a twist" at all - it's just that some of us DO think about the risks our favourites might be taking in taking part in this clownish tomfoolery.
Of course an injury is always a possibility and personally I'd prefer them to do it in the off-season just in case, but it looks like they're not concerned about it or else they wouldn't have agreed on this date, especially Roger, with the Grand Slam potentially at stake. Players do all sorts of 'risky' things off court - didn't Roger go skiing after AO? and Rafa often plays football during tournaments. As long as they don't act stupid and try to go all out, they should be ok. *fingers, toes and eyes crossed*
This is why it's not happening after Wimbledon: this isn't intended for Roger & Rafa to relax and have fun. It's intended to build the suspense. (What it will actually accomplish remains to be seen.)
It's not happening after Wimbledon because Roger will be on holiday then. :p Besides, the same people who are worried about an injury now would be just as worried about an injury before the USO then. ;)

***
It looks like the organisers are planning to turn this into an annual event until 2010.

http://www.mallorcadiario.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23587&Itemid=33

atheneglaukopis
04-15-2007, 05:12 PM
It's not happening after Wimbledon because Roger will be on holiday then. :p Besides, the same people who are worried about an injury now would be just as worried about an injury before the USO then. ;) Please, the Slash Brigade have long since established that Roger spends his vacations in Mallorca--it's a nice place, no? :p

Besides, I maintain that the Wimbledon-Toronto/Montreal-Cincinnati-USO period is less tennistically dense than the MC-Rome-Hamburg-RG-Halle/Queen's-Wimbledon period.

mallorn
04-15-2007, 05:17 PM
Please, the Slash Brigade have long since established that Roger spends his vacations in Mallorca--it's a nice place, no? :p
Si, but not this year, I don't think - Rafa's scheduled to play Stuttgart. :p

Besides, I maintain that the Wimbledon-Toronto/Montreal-Cincinnati-USO period is less tennistically dense than the MC-Rome-Hamburg-RG-Halle/Queen's-Wimbledon period.
Yeah, but that wouldn't stop people from worrying. ;)

atheneglaukopis
04-15-2007, 05:21 PM
Si, but not this year, I don't think - Rafa's scheduled to play Stuttgart. :p Love always finds a way. :couple:

Merton
04-15-2007, 05:23 PM
Oh, I'm sure both are smart enough to do that--and it's not as if the quality of the tennis will be high. I'm ju$t pointing out, perhap$ cynically, that tournament$, exhibition$, what-have-you, are rarely de$igned with the player$ in mind.

In the first place, I will not be surprised if someone on the planet takes this seriously (again, maybe cynically, given some of the specimens of humanity I've encountered). In the second place, just because we the MTF brain trust can see that something isn't a great idea, doesn't mean The Powers That Be don't think the fans or potential fans will fall for love it.

Your cynicism is shocking. I am convinced that everybody here acts only because of love for the game.

mallorn
04-15-2007, 05:28 PM
Love always finds a way. :couple:
Does it? :awww:

atheneglaukopis
04-15-2007, 05:31 PM
Your cynicism is shocking. I am convinced that everybody here acts only because of love for the game.I'm a terrible person. :sobbing:

Does it? :awww:It must! I have to compensate for the cynical lapse above! :awww:

Sunset of Age
04-15-2007, 05:32 PM
Oh, I'm sure both are smart enough to do that--and it's not as if the quality of the tennis will be high. I'm ju$t pointing out, perhap$ cynically, that tournament$, exhibition$, what-have-you, are rarely de$igned with the player$ in mind.

I kind-of know that... heh... it's all about the $$$$$$$$.

Still I think that it would've been better - for either one of them - to turn down this particular 'event'.

Anyway, I think I'm repeating myself by now... we'll just have to wait and see what happens. But I won't be buying any 'exhaustion' or 'injury'-excuse from either of them during the clay court season anymore.

Bobby
04-15-2007, 05:34 PM
Of course an injury is always a possibility and personally I'd prefer them to do it in the off-season just in case, but it looks like they're not concerned about it or else they wouldn't have agreed on this date, especially Roger, with the Grand Slam potentially at stake. Players do all sorts of 'risky' things off court - didn't Roger go skiing after AO? and Rafa often plays football during tournaments. As long as they don't act stupid and try to go all out, they should be ok. *fingers, toes and eyes crossed*

It's not happening after Wimbledon because Roger will be on holiday then. :p Besides, the same people who are worried about an injury now would be just as worried about an injury before the USO then. ;)

***
It looks like the organisers are planning to turn this into an annual event until 2010.

http://www.mallorcadiario.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23587&Itemid=33

Yeah, but it's often the case that injuries happen when one is careful and doesn't want to take risks. Besides, I think it's difficult for a tennis player to switch his brains to a mode where he decides not to go for all the shots. I don't think a professional tennis player can easily decide not to run for a drop shot, slide to a difficult ball or stretch for a passing shot just because it's an exhibition.

mallorn
04-15-2007, 05:42 PM
Yeah, but it's often the case that injuries happen when one is careful and doesn't want to take risks. Besides, I think it's difficult for a tennis player to switch his brains to a mode where he decides not to go for all the shots. I don't think a professional tennis player can easily decide not to run for a drop shot, slide to a difficult ball or stretch for a passing shot just because it's an exhibition.
Look, I agree it's not the ideal time for this, but it's not like players usually end up in hospital after exhibitions. I think they can and will play it in "exhibition mode," otherwise they should both be promptly admitted to the nearest mental institution. :rolleyes:

Merton
04-15-2007, 05:46 PM
It will be as competitive as any Hulk Hogan wrestling match, and well, injuries may also happen in practice.

SBruguera
04-16-2007, 12:33 AM
I don´t think we should be worried. It´s an exhibition match. They won´t try to go for too much. I have played several times on a court covered with ice (I don´t know what can be more dangerous than that), and realizing that fact I have been always extremely careful and never had an injury.

sawan66278
04-16-2007, 01:18 AM
Any ideas if this will be webcast? Definitely worth the fee...whatever it is?

ExcaliburII
04-16-2007, 02:23 AM
My tennis teacher is one of the two organizers of this event. :D

mallorn
04-19-2007, 01:39 PM
Roger's comments:
Battle of the surfaces is only about fun, says Federer

Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:11AM EDT

MONTE CARLO (Reuters) - World number one Roger Federer expects to have fun when he meets closest rival Rafael Nadal on a hybrid clay/grass court next month in Mallorca.

The match, called the 'battle of the surfaces', will take place in Mallorca's Palma Arena on May 2.

"It's exciting. The idea was there six or nine months ago," Federer told a news conference following his 6-4 6-3 third round win over South Korean Lee Huyng-taik at the Monte Carlo Masters Series on Thursday.

"I said it would be fun to do something like this. It never happened before," added Federer, who has won the last four editions of Wimbledon.

"It might seem crazy, especially at this time of the season but we also enjoy playing tennis for fun.

"It does not always have to be serious. The result is not the most important, it's more about having fun out there."

Federer is the undisputable king of grass, while double French Open champion Nadal is on a record 63-match winning streak on the slow clay surface.

Last year, the Spaniard beat Federer in the final of the French Open only for the dominant Swiss to claim his fourth Wimbledon crown by taming Nadal at the All England Club.

End: Story Text

http://www.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idUSL1934958620070419
:yeah:

The_Nadal_effect
04-19-2007, 01:55 PM
:
Good Heavens. If indeed anyone on this planet takes this thing serious, I'm afraid I'll have to give up on humanity! If anything, I hope the two will indeed relax and have fun with this - and I expect they will. ;)

That's quite true, no?
And that is why I am a little worried about that upcoming 'test of talent' promotional monster called 'Battle of Surfaces', as it mixes both of them in the most childish manner and are we to conclude that whosoever wins the match is more talented than the other...or what? Expect the corporates to rake in the moolah at any.given.chance.

On the outside it seems like fun which I hope it will be, but those who conclude talent from that contest can't distinguish God from Geronimo!

petesampras_1
04-21-2007, 05:00 AM
Hi,all.
I find the SuperSports will broadcast The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 .
Anybody have satellite signal of the SuperSports? Who can record this match and upload,we will appreciation you!

Schedule detail:

Tennis on SuperSport:
Wednesday, May 02, 2007 Time Channel Details

15:30 - 18:00 CSN/SS2 The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal - LIVE
20:30 - 22:30 SS6 The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal

W!MBLEDON
04-21-2007, 05:15 AM
Thanks petesampras_1! :yeah:

petesampras_1
04-21-2007, 06:18 AM
Thanks petesampras_1! :yeah:

important for us,who can receive the Supersports,and record this match?

http://www.supersport.co.za

mallorn
04-21-2007, 08:38 AM
Thanks for the heads-up, petesampras_1. :D Hopefully someone will record and upload it.

Brandy of vb.com posted links to the promotional video for the event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2OUvQBWr_I
http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=UG8RQJTE

petesampras_1
04-21-2007, 01:32 PM
yes,we really hope!

Hugh Jaas
04-27-2007, 03:02 PM
50/50 grass/clay court you kidding me!?

Ivanatis
04-27-2007, 06:26 PM
watch masses of people coming and opening threads like "Rafa won't lose in Wimbledon" or "Federer Roland Garros Champion 2007" after this match referring to the winner

btw. I think Rafa will win this one

guga2120
04-27-2007, 06:33 PM
Thanks for the heads-up, petesampras_1. :D Hopefully someone will record and upload it.

Brandy of vb.com posted links to the promotional video for the event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2OUvQBWr_I
http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=UG8RQJTE

I can not believe Rafael and Roger agreed to do this, especially right now.

R.Federer
04-27-2007, 06:41 PM
I can not believe Rafael and Roger agreed to do this, especially right now.

Money talks and Money plays tennis :D

Tomy
04-27-2007, 07:00 PM
50/50 grass/clay court you kidding me!?

Nope, we aren't kidding you (although it would have been a great prank... too many people involved).
This is actually hapenning next wednesday.

gillian
04-27-2007, 07:08 PM
This has the potential to be very goofy.

Or Levy
04-27-2007, 07:22 PM
So, still no livestream that anyone knows about, huh?

I hope it would be goofy, lets save the seriousness to the Rome final, or even better, the RG final.

Metis
04-27-2007, 07:23 PM
So, still no livestream that anyone knows about, huh?

I hope it would be goofy, lets save the seriousness to the Rome final, or even better, the RG final.

I think someone mentioned there will be a stream in bwin, although I can't imagine why they would want to broadcast that. :shrug:

guga2120
04-27-2007, 07:38 PM
I hope it would be goofy, lets save the seriousness to the Rome final, or even better, the RG final.agreed, i hope you don't see them diving for shots, im sure they will just be messing around, hitting between the legs shots and everything. You know Rafael is kind of fragile, i hope he doesn't get hurt.

SBruguera
04-28-2007, 01:38 PM
But it still remains a silly idea to do this exhibition in the middle of the clay season, where there's so much for both players at stakes don't you think? A half-grass/half-clay court? Unless they'll change shoes every time they switch halves, it seems very tricky to me, even if it's just a circus exhibition (which I agree on).

Anyway, we'll see. I still have to read any a reaction from Fed that he's indeed taking part in this - when I see it, I will believe it... ;)

Today´s spanish press: They´re not going to change shoes. Both of them will use shoes adapted mainly for grass.

undomiele
04-28-2007, 03:33 PM
It's for real.
Its just looks so weird!!! :o

nicole_s
04-28-2007, 03:41 PM
cool idea!it's gonna be a very weird and exciting match!

SBruguera
04-28-2007, 04:31 PM
It's for real.
Its just looks so weird!!! :o

Yes, it looks weird. But I think when they paint the grass half-court lines it will look less weird.

WatchOut
04-28-2007, 05:18 PM
:haha: That's awesome.Both players at their best :p :bolt:

feuselino
04-28-2007, 05:20 PM
Man that is a huge stadium for an exhibition...

Sunset of Age
04-28-2007, 05:21 PM
Man that is a huge stadium for an exhibition...

Both of them are pretty huge players... ;) and it's obvious that many fans would like to see this 'thing' happening.

Kalliopeia
04-28-2007, 08:30 PM
Man that is a huge stadium for an exhibition...

Tickets are apparently selling like crazy...they were lining up for them when they went on sale.

Bobby
04-28-2007, 08:40 PM
Tickets are apparently selling like crazy...they were lining up for them when they went on sale.

If someone is willing to pay money just to watch crap, that's fine. But I don't understand it. The whole event is a joke, but it's not even funny.

minhngoc
04-28-2007, 08:46 PM
It's funny to me

Sunset of Age
04-28-2007, 08:49 PM
If someone is willing to pay money just to watch crap, that's fine. But I don't understand it. The whole event is a joke, but it's not even funny.

Yes... obviously a lot of people rather want to watch this cash cow circus-act than a proper match. And with it becoming a succes like it seemingly will, we'll probably see more of this idiocy happening in the future. :(

No - I'm still not happy with it, though I admit not to be turning off the telly if it were aired. :armed: :angel:

Caio_Brasil
04-28-2007, 08:52 PM
:bounce: we will have ut on TV here in Brazil!

Mateya
04-28-2007, 09:05 PM
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No comment. :tape:

ycpg
04-28-2007, 09:16 PM
:bounce: we will have ut on TV here in Brazil!

Yes , wonderful.
:bounce: :clap2: :yeah:

Kitty de Sade
04-28-2007, 09:23 PM
:bounce: we will have ut on TV here in Brazil!

Yes , wonderful.
:bounce: :clap2: :yeah:

You are so lucky! Tennis coverage where I live is just...:sobbing:

Yappa
04-28-2007, 09:59 PM
:bounce: we will have ut on TV here in Brazil!

Yes , wonderful.
:bounce: :clap2: :yeah:

Great guys. Can't wait for your upload of the match.
;)

sawan66278
04-28-2007, 10:28 PM
Does anyone know if there will be ANY WAY to watch this match in the U.S.?

FedFan_2007
04-29-2007, 12:59 AM
I wonder if there is any live stream of this?

Black Adam
04-29-2007, 10:34 AM
Is it a best of 5?

its.like.that
04-29-2007, 01:36 PM
Rafa will smash Fedclown.

:rocker2:

SBruguera
04-29-2007, 10:23 PM
Here you can watch the promotional video of this match

http://www.infobae.com/contenidos/313341-100803-0-La-batalla-las-superficies

EDIT: Old news. Sorry

sawan66278
04-29-2007, 10:26 PM
So, no way to watch this match in the U.S.?

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-29-2007, 10:31 PM
Rafa will smash Fedclown.

Damm right

azza
04-30-2007, 11:27 AM
Federer will win 7-6(6) 6-4

The Pro
04-30-2007, 11:59 AM
I'd be surprised if they didn't do it.

This is a great idea. I don't know why eveyone's being so serious.:confused:

rolandgarros
04-30-2007, 12:25 PM
When will the match begin?
2PM or 4PM local time?

Xristos
04-30-2007, 12:58 PM
Is there a stream for this or what?

petesampras_1
04-30-2007, 02:23 PM
:bounce: we will have ut on TV here in Brazil!

Can you record this match and upload it?

W!MBLEDON
04-30-2007, 02:28 PM
Negative aspects aside, I'm actually pretty psyched for this match. :)

yonexforever
04-30-2007, 02:37 PM
I dont thik they should switch sides, it would involve a change of shoes, not to mention going from sliding on clay to NOT on grass.
Not to mention the crud that will be on the ball when it comes off the clay and just effin DIES on the grass side!!
Simply keep Rafa on the grass side and Roger on the clay side.

Xristos
04-30-2007, 02:42 PM
Negative aspects aside, I'm actually pretty psyched for this match. :)

Any chance us Aussies see this?

Fumus
04-30-2007, 02:44 PM
The grass side will undoubtedly be the harder side to play from. The surface will be uber fast with all those unpredictable bounces from the skidding. You won't get as much of chance to blast the ball since it's going to be staying hit at you. Meanwhile your opponent on the clay side will be able to take full cuts at the ball every single time. It's like hitting into the clay will neutralize your offense and then you are able to be very offensive hitting into the grass....very interesting. I can't see any reason why you would want to stay on the grass side...

Chris Seahorse
04-30-2007, 07:55 PM
The grass side will undoubtedly be the harder side to play from. The surface will be uber fast with all those unpredictable bounces from the skidding. You won't get as much of chance to blast the ball since it's going to be staying hit at you. Meanwhile your opponent on the clay side will be able to take full cuts at the ball every single time. It's like hitting into the clay will neutralize your offense and then you are able to be very offensive hitting into the grass....very interesting. I can't see any reason why you would want to stay on the grass side...

Agree. It will be a fascinating match. But the most interesting action will come during the games when the server is serving from the grass side to the clay side. These games are going to be very difficult to hold. Probably the best tactic will be serve and volleying as rallies of even short lengths are going to greatly favour the player on the clayside. I think if either player can hold serve 50% of the time serving from the grass end they will probably win the match. But most of these service games will be breaks.

Conversely, the when the players serves from the clay end to the grass end they will be virtually impossible to break. If either player gets broken serving to the grass end I will be shocked. Think about it and imagine a point unfolding and you will get the idea.

I must say this sounds an awful lot of fun and and I am disappointed so many posters here are making such a fuss about the risks of injuries. Tennis players risk injuries everytime they practice, play any match, run down the stairs, go for a drive etc. As a poster said earlier Nadal enjoys playing football and Federer enjoys skiing, both sports that could cause injuries. But maybe sometimes a player is prepared to risk an injury in order to have some fun. And I think both players see this as both a fun match and a great challenge.

As for the posters who believe the players are doing this for the money they are quite simply idiots. The amount of dosh the two players will make from this match will be pretty hefty but for players like Federer and Nadal with the fortunes they have already acumulated it will be small cheese. They are both clearly doing it because the idea intrigues them, and they both I'm sure want the chance to prove they can win on such an odd court.

The match will undoubtably be far more relaxed than a slam or masters match. The quality will not be anywhere as high either for very obvious reasons. But both players will be faced with some unusual and intriguing challenges. Not least, how to adjust to the different paces and bounces. Quick reactions and adjustments will never be more important in a match, working out tactics on such a strange court will be fascinating and I have no doubt both players are plotting right now how they plan to surprise their opponents.

So the match won't be as high quality as masters events or slams, but it will be a hell of alot more unpredictable and fun. For one thing unlike when the two meet at Roland Garros or Wimbledon I personally don't have a clue who will have the upper hand on this strange enigma of a court. Who will deal will the variety of different bounces better, who will aproach the match with more determination, how the players change their style depending on which side of the court they are on, all these questions I don't have an answer to.

I have read alot of detractors commenting on this match but I must say I am so looking forward to seeing this thing happen. I certainly hope someone finds a live feed otherwise it will still make a fun vid to watch after the fact.

Action Jackson
04-30-2007, 07:58 PM
As long as there are people looking forward to the experiment that's cool and the gimmick has generated a lot of interest.

Fumus
04-30-2007, 07:59 PM
How do you even do warm-ups? Do you have to change ends during the warm up?

kartveteran
04-30-2007, 08:35 PM
I think just every game on the grass side will be very difficult to win. It would be more like trying to hold your clay-side-games, rather than trying to hold you service games. If service-volley and chip & charge are the only ways to have a chance to win games from the grass side, I'd say that would favour Federer to win more grass-side games.
However, it's only an exhibition of course, so maybe the rallies and the strategies won't become that serious.

Kalliopeia
04-30-2007, 09:26 PM
I must say this sounds an awful lot of fun and and I am disappointed so many posters here are making such a fuss about the risks of injuries. Tennis players risk injuries everytime they practice, play any match, run down the stairs, go for a drive etc. As a poster said earlier Nadal enjoys playing football and Federer enjoys skiing, both sports that could cause injuries. But maybe sometimes a player is prepared to risk an injury in order to have some fun. And I think both players see this as both a fun match and a great challenge.

Not to mention it's probably an interesting way to break some tension in the middle of what is a very big clay season for both of them. I only wish I could see it.

Chris Seahorse
04-30-2007, 09:35 PM
I think just every game on the grass side will be very difficult to win. It would be more like trying to hold your clay-side-games, rather than trying to hold you service games. If service-volley and chip & charge are the only ways to have a chance to win games from the grass side, I'd say that would favour Federer to win more grass-side games.
However, it's only an exhibition of course, so maybe the rallies and the strategies won't become that serious.

Probably true. It will be intriguing to see how much he uses these tactics. :)

Sunset of Age
04-30-2007, 10:04 PM
As for the posters who believe the players are doing this for the money they are quite simply idiots.

Well thank you, on behalf of all those over here who think so, or at least believe it's a major part of the reason why the players agreed to pertake in this - which is quite a lot.

I think it is a perfectly valid opinion - like yours, although I disagree - I just have trouble with calling out people with a different opinion as 'idiots'.
Just saying. :cool:

As for me I still hope there'll be a livestream or something. If not, I hope people will be so kind to post plenty of pics of this silliness. :D

Chris Seahorse
04-30-2007, 10:12 PM
Well thank you, on behalf of all those over here who think so, or at least believe it's a major part of the reason why the players agreed to pertake in this - which is quite a lot.

I think it is a perfectly valid opinion - like yours, although I disagree - I just have trouble with calling out people with a different opinion as 'idiots'.
Just saying. :cool:

As for me I still hope there'll be a livestream or something. If not, I hope people will be so kind to post plenty of pics of this silliness. :D

You are of course absolutely right. I was was certainly wrong to use the word idiots in that way. No one should be branded an idiot on the basis of one insignifigant opinion, indeed. I suppose I should have simply said that such an opinion was idiotic which I do believe but of course that hardly means those people who hold that opinion are idiots. I'm sorry for my dumb choice of words.

Sunset of Age
04-30-2007, 10:14 PM
You are of course absolutely right. I was was certainly wrong to use the word idiots in that way. No one should be branded an idiot on the basis of one insignifigant opinion, indeed. I suppose I should have simply said that such as opinion was idiotic which I do believe but of course that hardly means those people who hold that opinion are idiots. I'm sorry for my dumb choice of words.

That's okay, mate! :yeah:

Whatever I hope everyone will enjoy it, expecially the players involved :angel: - and that hopefully some of us will be able to see it live.
(I haven't even been able to find out when it starts... :confused:)

Chris Seahorse
04-30-2007, 10:15 PM
That's okay, mate! :yeah:

Whatever I hope everyone will enjoy it, expecially the players involved :angel: - and that hopefully some of us will be able to see it live.
(I haven't even been able to find out when it starts... :confused:)

3 pm continental European time. 2 pm UK time. :)

lunahielo
04-30-2007, 11:36 PM
Has anyone heard of a live stream?

jcadam2003
04-30-2007, 11:40 PM
does anyone know if the match is going to be on TV in Europe? Will it be televised either in Holland or the UK and if so, which tv station?

NYCtennisfan
04-30-2007, 11:46 PM
As long as there are people looking forward to the experiment that's cool and the gimmick has generated a lot of interest.

Yep, mission accomplished.

SBruguera
04-30-2007, 11:52 PM
The grass side will undoubtedly be the harder side to play from. The surface will be uber fast with all those unpredictable bounces from the skidding. You won't get as much of chance to blast the ball since it's going to be staying hit at you. Meanwhile your opponent on the clay side will be able to take full cuts at the ball every single time. It's like hitting into the clay will neutralize your offense and then you are able to be very offensive hitting into the grass....very interesting. I can't see any reason why you would want to stay on the grass side...

Absolutely agree. I really think that the player who starts the match on the clay side of the court has a little advantage. If the match goes to a tie-break this guy will start the tie-break on the clay side as well. You can say that tennis is a game mathematically equal, but then you are forgetting the psychological aspects of this game.

LaTenista
05-01-2007, 01:46 AM
US coverage?

Johnny Groove
05-01-2007, 02:26 AM
US coverage?

Love, there was a war just to get coverage of a slam. What makes you think we'll get an exho? :rolls:

LaTenista
05-01-2007, 02:51 AM
Love, there was a war just to get coverage of a slam. What makes you think we'll get an exho? :rolls:

:kiss: I was just being optimistic. I know there's no chance. :(

sawan66278
05-01-2007, 03:31 AM
It appears that no one knows (or there is simply none) what coverage there will be in the U.S. To me: this is outrageous. A match that generates this kind of publicity, and the Tennis Channel (which shows Team Tennis and Senior Tour matches) can't get coverage. Give me a break!!!!!!:mad: :mad:

Please, if anyone knows about streaming live coverage...LET US KNOW!

rofe
05-01-2007, 03:44 AM
TTC won't show it live but it will probably air it later.

petesampras_1
05-01-2007, 04:55 AM
TTC won't show it live but it will probably air it later.

no,unfortunately! this match only live on SuperSport(a south africa media group)

Tennis on SuperSport: Wednesday, May 02, 2007
Time Channel Details
11:00 - 11:30 SSL ATP Tennis
15:30 - 18:00 CSN/SS2 The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal - LIVE
15:55 - 18:00 SS8 The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal - LIVE
20:30 - 22:30 SS5 The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal
23:00 - 23:30 SSL ATP Tennis

Tennis on SuperSport: Thursday, May 03, 2007
Time Channel Details
18:00 - 20:00 SS5 The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal
21:00 - 21:30 SS2 ATP Tennis

Tennis on SuperSport: Friday, May 04, 2007
Time Channel Details
02:00 - 02:30 CSN/SS1 ATP Tennis
07:00 - 07:30 SS2 ATP Tennis
19:00 - 21:00 SS6 The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal

Tennis on SuperSport: Saturday, May 05, 2007
Time Channel Details
03:00 - 05:00 CSN/SS1 The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal
13:30 - 14:00 MNET/SS1 ATP Tennis
14:00 - 16:00 SS6 The Battle of Surfaces Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal



A unique event, 'The Battle Of The Surfaces', featuring an exhibition tennis match in Mallorca, Spain, between world No 1 Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal, considered the best clay court player in the game, will be televised live on SuperSport on Wednesday.

The match will be live on CSN and SuperSport 2 at 3.30 pm.

The match will be played as a best-of-three setter with the usual changes of side, in uneven games. Because the players will be on different surfaces once they change over, they will be permitted two minutes instead of the usual 90 seconds to change their footwear during the breaks.

Clara Bow
05-01-2007, 05:06 AM
I think I read that they will be showing the match on Spanish language FoxSports in the US. Time to brush up on my Spanish skills.

LinkMage
05-01-2007, 05:20 AM
I think I read that they will be showing the match on Spanish language FoxSports in the US. Time to brush up on my Spanish skills.

Well, Fox Sports is showing it here.