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Donna Young d phil simmonds 64 36 63

tt boy
04-11-2007, 08:30 AM
just not acceptable philhttp://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3990/142smilieoh9.gifhttp://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3990/142smilieoh9.gifhttp://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9941/realtonguecg5.gif

Jimnik
04-11-2007, 08:34 AM
Keep it up Donald.

Loremaster
04-11-2007, 08:44 AM
Was oit 1st round or Qualification

Jim Jones
04-11-2007, 12:00 PM
Was oit 1st round or Qualification

It was a....1st round match! :eek:

JustJames
04-11-2007, 12:02 PM
It was a....1st round match! :eek:

Of a futures tournament?

Surely... ;)

sodman12
04-11-2007, 01:07 PM
IS this his first win????????????????????? on atp

gusman890
04-11-2007, 01:16 PM
relax everyone,

it was in a challenger.

Bilbo
04-11-2007, 01:22 PM
two clowns on the same court. this is the result :haha:

sodman12
04-11-2007, 01:26 PM
Thought he had turned things around. I saw him sitting with the DC team at the tie this weekend. I wonder when there going to loose hope with him. Ill give him at least until maybe late 18-19 before I conclude that he officially is not that good.

jazar
04-11-2007, 05:19 PM
simmonds should be ashamed. i wouldnt be surpriseed if he quit tennis after this abysmal loss

W!MBLEDON
04-11-2007, 05:21 PM
That Young is old news. Simmonds should be roundhouse kicked! If the fact that Donald Young could beat me 6-0, 6-0, 6-0, 6-0, 6-0, 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 etc. in a match wasn't so true, I'd laugh at this result! xD

Clara Bow
04-12-2007, 12:17 AM
Come on people- Donald Young bashing is soooo spring 2006! ;)

scoobs
04-12-2007, 12:22 AM
I feel a bit sorry for this kid - not only is he down in the trenches these days trying to fight his way up on his own merits, he has to do so while facing a major respect and credibility deficit thanks to people who have taken exception to how he was handled and written him off already.

Kitty de Sade
04-12-2007, 01:20 AM
I feel a bit sorry for this kid - not only is he down in the trenches these days trying to fight his way up on his own merits, he has to do so while facing a major respect and credibility deficit thanks to people who have taken exception to how he was handled and written him off already.

Well said. I feel as you do. This is the danger when the proverbial cart is put before the horse. Classic case in mismanagement if there ever was one.

Deboogle!.
04-12-2007, 02:19 AM
I feel a bit sorry for this kid - not only is he down in the trenches these days trying to fight his way up on his own merits, he has to do so while facing a major respect and credibility deficit thanks to people who have taken exception to how he was handled and written him off already.Well I doubt he knows, let alone cares, what a bunch of people on a message board are saying about him ;) He's got the respect of the people he most likely looks up to - and that's all that should really matter. If he's getting positive reinforcement from the people he actually listens to, he'll be fine. It's entirely possible that he'll be a late bloomer, lots of the greats of the game weren't great as teenagers. When people you really respect tell you they believe in you, it can have a significant effect. We have actual proof of that ;)
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Will experience translate to success for Young?
By Bonnie DeSimone
Special to ESPN.com

WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. -- Donald Young got thrown into a pool with some serious card sharks last week, but he held his own. He invested $100 in a game of Dealer's Choice and came out $1 up -- not bad considering the monetary losses suffered by some past Davis Cup practice partners.

The 17-year-old said he was initially unsure whether he'd fit in during his first stint with the poker-loving U.S. team, given the age gap between him and his accomplished elders, although he said it helped to have fellow teenager Sam Querrey along.

In the end, Young said he felt "embraced." He left with an open invitation to train in Texas with Andy Roddick and in Florida with James Blake and Mardy Fish.

"It's funny how they so easily turn the switch on and off, from hanging out joking to getting really serious," Young said. "They'll be joking five minutes before the match, then they take five or 10 minutes to get themselves ready to play, and afterwards they're back to joking."

Blake said that's exactly what he hoped the talented teenager would absorb this week.

"[To] see how a lot of us train, how hard we work, how professional we are about it … I was never able to get that kind of experience at a young age," Blake said. "I'd love to see him staying positive all the time out on the court. I think he gets down on himself, which I was definitely guilty of early in my career and probably still am. … I see a little bit of myself in that."

Fish also had high praise for Young, likening his game to retired Chilean star Marcelo Rios. "He's got all the shots and amazing hands," Fish said. "He seems like a very good kid and a hard worker."

Bob Bryan echoed that sentiment, saying, "Give the kid two years, he'll be top 50. … He's got all the tools. He just maybe needs to pull the trigger a little more."

The learning experience and the good vibes could be critical for Young at this stage of his closely scrutinized career. He turned pro at 14 and finished 2005 as junior world No. 1. He has won only one set in 10 ATP-level tournaments and reached his first final on the lower-level U.S. Pro Circuit in January.

His ATP losses have been extensively chronicled. Roddick, Blake and U.S. captain Patrick McEnroe all weighed in on his development last year, saying Young's confidence and his match readiness would suffer if he continued to get beaten up at that level. That provoked some resentment in Young's camp -- he is coached by his parents, Donald Sr. and Illona -- but a clearly energized Young said that is all in the rearview now.

Young said McEnroe broke the ice by approaching him last year at the Orange Bowl, the prestigious junior tournament held each December in Florida, and saying he had great expectations for Young's future. McEnroe backed up the talk by inviting the lefty here and giving him as much coaching as his team duties permitted. He said Young's game and his attitude were both impressive.

"Mentally and emotionally, I think it was an awesome week for him," McEnroe said. "What he really needs is to spend more time around these guys, practicing with them. He's got to develop his game more, hit bigger shots, which he can do.

"The guys have really taken him under their wings. If they think the kid has game and can go somewhere, they spend a little extra time with him. Andy took it upon himself, when he was actually practicing with him and beating him up pretty good, [to] say things to him -- 'You've hit every ball to my forehand,' or 'You served five times in a row to the same spot.'

Young endured minimal hazing last week, although the veterans did induce him to work some inside jokes into a speech before 300 guests at a VIP dinner.

"I've learned a lot about how to compete out there, to never stop, don't get that hangdog look out there," Young said.

RickDaStick
04-12-2007, 02:22 AM
What makes Bob think Young will be top 50 in 2 years? Sure i guess he has talent but so do a lot of kids out there. In 2 years I dont see The Don having more than a handful of ATP wins.

Deboogle!.
04-12-2007, 02:27 AM
What makes Bob think Young will be top 50 in 2 years? Sure i guess he has talent but so do a lot of kids out there. In 2 years I dont see The Don having more than a handful of ATP wins.Perhaps he's gotten to hit with him and talk to him, find out what the kid is made of, and he knows more than we do about tennis and the tour? :shrug: It's entirely possible that Young is absolutely incredible in practice and just can't put it together yet on the match court? Maybe Young is still growing and Bob knows that because he knows him so he knows that in 2 years Young will be physically bigger (which would help him since it seems one of his biggest problems right now is lack of weapons)? Perhaps Bob knows that Young is just really immature mentally right now and really believes that if he can grow up and put it together, he can have success? etc. etc. etc.

I'm just guessing and presenting reasons why. And maybe, of course, Bob is wrong. And only time will tell what Young will accomplish. I'm not a big fan of the kid based on what i've seen to this point, but I'm just not willing to write someone off before they're even 20.

Clara Bow
04-12-2007, 02:46 AM
Thanks for the article Deb. Nice to see the older guys taking him under their collective wing.

It is nice to see the camaraderie among the US players- that is something they have lacked a bit in the past imo.

FedFan_2007
04-12-2007, 04:06 AM
"I've learned a lot about how to compete out there, to never stop, don't get that hangdog look out there," Young said.

Like James Blake when he's playing FedGod. :devil: :devil: :devil: :worship:

All hail TMF!!! :worship: :worship: :worship: Rogelio

keqtqiadv
04-12-2007, 06:05 AM
Young def Carlsen 7/6 3/6 6/1 :p

Scotso
04-12-2007, 06:11 AM
Young doesn't have the firepower to be a top player. Just won't happen.

Jim Jones
04-12-2007, 10:53 AM
well looks like he is going to soon be in top 400. Not bad for a 17 year old I guess.

JBdV
04-12-2007, 10:59 AM
Young def Carlsen 7/6 3/6 6/1 :p

:eek: He beat Kenneth Carlsen? Nice win! Keep it up Donald :yeah:

Grinder
04-12-2007, 10:47 PM
Good win for the Don. :yeah:

Funny how no one shows up when he wins. :lol:

JMG
04-12-2007, 11:47 PM
Too many haters.

3 more to go Don! :rocker2:

scarecrows
04-12-2007, 11:49 PM
WTA Donna Young can really win this tournament

vamos Don

tiptop
04-13-2007, 12:06 AM
Nice article there and a nice win too.

Keep it up, Donald! :)

Johnny Groove
04-13-2007, 12:10 AM
The Don :rocker2:

The Freak
04-13-2007, 02:59 AM
Young def Carlsen 7/6 3/6 6/1 :p

Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!:yeah:

RickDaStick
04-14-2007, 05:34 AM
The Don got thumped by Kevin Kim.:haha: 2 and 1. Nice effort, Donald.

TMJordan
04-14-2007, 05:57 AM
:haha:

Losing to Kim 2 and 1 :haha:

The Don :haha:

JBdV
04-14-2007, 07:58 AM
:haha: Haters laughing at a 17 year old kid who's already achieved more in life than they ever will. Priceless :haha:

Loremaster
04-14-2007, 08:07 AM
I feel sorry for Donald he is 17 and he everyone laughs because of his results which is sad , I used to don't like him for his words , but now I support him because he somehow understand some things which is good , anyway SF isn't bad result

jazar
04-14-2007, 08:11 AM
he got lucky this week. his opponents all felt sorry for him. but kim didnt :haha:

Hugh Jaas
04-14-2007, 07:18 PM
he got lucky this week. his opponents all felt sorry for him. but kim didnt :haha:

Are you smoking crack? A 17 yer old getting into a 1/8 finals of a challenger tournament is an excellent result.

Sorry PAL but nobody gets into the quarter finals of the cut throat challenger circuit tournament by luck.

Give the goddam kid a break already.

keqtqiadv
04-14-2007, 07:22 PM
:rolls:

The Freak
04-14-2007, 07:33 PM
Are you smoking crack? A 17 yer old getting into a 1/8 finals of a challenger tournament is an excellent result.

Sorry PAL but nobody gets into the quarter finals of the cut throat challenger circuit tournament by luck.

Give the goddam kid a break already.

Agreed, too many haters.

croat123
04-14-2007, 08:58 PM
there wouldn't be so many haters if he wasn't so cocky
nice job kevin :p

Andre♥
04-14-2007, 09:00 PM
Are you smoking crack? A 17 yer old getting into a 1/8 finals of a challenger tournament is an excellent result.

At that age where were Nadal, Berdych, Gasquet, Hewitt, Del Potro, Federer???

Byrd
04-14-2007, 09:11 PM
At that age where were Nadal, Berdych, Gasquet, Hewitt, Del Potro, Federer???

Hewitt won a title (atp tour) and nadal was just outside the top 50 :rolleyes:, but you have a point hes still on course, people take different time to mature.

G4.
04-14-2007, 09:36 PM
At that age where were Nadal, Berdych, Gasquet, Hewitt, Del Potro, Federer???

Gasquet was here http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/players/playerprofiles/playeractivity.asp?prevtrnnum=0&year=2003&query=Singles&selTournament=0&player=G628&x=6&y=5
winning challenger tournaments , and won his first atp match at 16 beating Squillari in Monte Carlo

Hugh Jaas
04-14-2007, 10:47 PM
Gasquet was here http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/players/playerprofiles/playeractivity.asp?prevtrnnum=0&year=2003&query=Singles&selTournament=0&player=G628&x=6&y=5
winning challenger tournaments , and won his first atp match at 16 beating Squillari in Monte Carlo

considering that over 6000 people entered itf/atp tournaments over the past few years and you can only name 3 or 4 out of 6000 since 2005 does not prove anything does it?!

You should give Donald young credit for grinding it with the male pros on the tour at 16/17.

Tennis Fool
04-15-2007, 04:37 AM
I only saw one mention of his taking out the 8th seed, Ken Carlsen...

Grinder
04-21-2007, 01:20 AM
Donald is currently in the semis of USA F8 after an impressive 6-2 6-2 win over the number 2 seed, Jamie Baker.

The Freak
04-21-2007, 01:34 AM
Donald is currently in the semis of USA F8 after an impressive 6-2 6-2 win over the number 2 seed, Jamie Baker.

Yeah, a good win for Donald, this shows Donald's ranking does not indicate his progress, given that the guy he just whooped is 200 spots ahead in the rankings.

Jumpman23
04-21-2007, 03:03 AM
Haters..........all you critics are haters of the african-american tennis players.

RickDaStick
04-21-2007, 05:36 AM
Haters..........all you critics are haters of the african-american tennis players.


:yawn: :yawn:

El Legenda
04-21-2007, 05:42 AM
:haha: Haters laughing at a 17 year old kid who's already achieved more in life than they ever will. Priceless :haha:

Young sucks and i have achieved more than him.

Sean.J.S.
04-21-2007, 05:53 AM
How embarrasing for Phil. :o

Just retire. :o

W!MBLEDON
04-21-2007, 06:13 AM
At that age where were Nadal, Berdych, Gasquet, Hewitt, Del Potro, Federer???

Winning matches, gaining ATP points and raking in the cash? :rolleyes:

JMG
04-21-2007, 08:53 AM
Young sucks and i have achieved more than him.

You haven't achieved anything and you know it. Or do you think your illegal DVD burning is an achievement? :confused:

JMG
04-21-2007, 08:55 AM
Impressive win against Baker. :yeah:

decrepitude
04-21-2007, 09:09 AM
Haters..........all you critics are haters of the african-american tennis players.

I don't think that is true at all. What got most people annoyed about him was that he kept being given wild cards into ATP events when he was nowhere near being ready for them. Last year each wild card earned him 5 ranking points, which inflated his ranking way above what it should have been, and he was getting thrashed each time.

This year there are no points for wild cards unless they win a match and so he has concentrated on playing Challengers, which at the moment is his true level. He has a lot of promise and may well make his way up to ATP level, on his own merits, soon.

JBdV
04-21-2007, 10:07 AM
You haven't achieved anything and you know it. Or do you think your illegal DVD burning is an achievement? :confused:

:haha: :yeah:

Grinder
04-22-2007, 09:33 PM
Donald establishes himself as the best 17 year old in the world with a 6-2 6-2 win over Kei Nishikori for his first futures title at USA F8.

gusman890
04-22-2007, 09:46 PM
he acaully won something? ;)

Chris Seahorse
04-22-2007, 10:09 PM
One year ago it was perfectly understandable and justifiable to poke some fun at Donald Young. He was getting wildcards for the main draw of big ATP events before he had even won a single challenger match, let alone an ATP one. And of course the Miami result does still bring a bit of a smirk to my face when I think about it. After all it is not every day a player gets double bageled by an opponent who himself gets double bageled in the next round.

But since that time to Young's credit he has done it the hard way. He has received only one main draw wild card, at the US Open and even that he earned with his results from a junior tournament. The last year he has been working hard to improve his game on the Challenger and Future circuit like any other youngster. And the results, while not in any way spectacular, they haven't been bad. He now has several top 300 wins and has played some very competitive sets against some good players, including taking a set off Djokovic at the US Open. He no longer deserves to be a figure of mockery. Infact more and more I suspect he probably has a modest career on the main tour ahead of him, even if it might be another 2 or 3 years before he reaches the top 100.

Tennis Fool
04-23-2007, 03:49 AM
Winning matches, gaining ATP points and raking in the cash? :rolleyes:

Wrong :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Tennis Fool
04-23-2007, 03:51 AM
He no longer deserves to be a figure of mockery.

This is MTF ;)

Morgan Z
04-23-2007, 04:06 AM
I don't think that is true at all. What got most people annoyed about him was that he kept being given wild cards into ATP events when he was nowhere near being ready for them. Last year each wild card earned him 5 ranking points, which inflated his ranking way above what it should have been, and he was getting thrashed each time.


Very true, but I am not sure if people are right in being annoyed with him for that. A first round loss at a top level event gives more cash than what a player gets for winning a Futures, not to mention fifty times more the fame!

It's tough for a 16 year old to resist that sort of temptation. The blame should go to the USTA and Donald's management.

Donald is a cracking player in the making. He's 17 and will be inside the top 400. :eek: Just watch him get to the top 100 by next March.

Chris Seahorse
04-23-2007, 05:25 AM
Very true, but I am not sure if people are right in being annoyed with him for that. A first round loss at a top level event gives more cash than what a player gets for winning a Futures, not to mention fifty times more the fame!


The prize money has nothing to do with it. DY has already earned enough in endorsements that he could retire and live very comfortably for the rest of his life.


Donald is a cracking player in the making. He's 17 and will be inside the top 400. :eek: Just watch him get to the top 100 by next March.

Yes, he probably has a reasonable career on the main tour ahead of him. Nothing outstanding, probably something on the level of a Paul Goldstein. Top 100 by next March? I think that is way optimistic. You are going to have to wait substantially longer than that.

Chris Seahorse
04-23-2007, 05:31 AM
This is MTF ;)

I know. I chose my words carefully. I said he no longer deserves to be a figure of mockery. I did not say he will no longer be a figure of mockery. ;)