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Joakim Noah: an embarrassment to the legacy of Yannick

sawan66278
04-03-2007, 08:41 PM
I don't know how many of you are college basketball fans, but last night, the University of Florida won its second NCAA college basketball championship (back to back no less). A yet, in the post game interview, Noah set back respect for the student athlete 100 years. Here's the clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=58JsDoQDzTA

And...for your further entertainment:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bQ3y5hTHuP4

Clara Bow
04-03-2007, 08:52 PM
I don't know what is up with Joakim. When I first started reading interviews with him- he came across as very intellectually curious and aware of the world. His first interview in SI showed a very neat worldly kid who- although hyper- was much more cognizant of matters in the world such as poverty than a lot of college kids. They also talked about how he has always been one to ask good questions in class, etc. But lately- he has presented himself as a big goof ball/idiot. Do not understand. I don't care if he is passionate and hyper, but why sound like an idiot?

Well- at least he is still very good at always making sure that his team mates are recognized. He didn't want to do the initial SI story because he did not think it would be right to single him out from his team.

I do have to say- I thought it was neat of him to stay this year when after last year- his stock in the draft was as high as it ever would be. Granted- he doesn't need the money- but even so- a lot of kids would have struck while the draft iron was blazingly hot like it was last year and not have stayed in college.

Burrow
04-03-2007, 08:55 PM
hes a pleb. an ugly one at that too.

mangoes
04-03-2007, 09:12 PM
I don't see the big deal..........he is a college kid having fun. Give him a break. He is enjoying himself. Is he suppose to act studious all the time?? This was a big moment in his life. When I was in college, I knew plenty of smart, intelligent guys who could act like goof balls in this situation. Don't judge him by this.

And, how exactly did he set back respect for student athletes?? Have you met many student athletes??

Raquel
04-03-2007, 09:15 PM
:haha: at the dancing.

Truly cringeworthy.

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-03-2007, 09:19 PM
I don't see the big deal..........he is a college kid having fun. Give him a break. He is enjoying himself. Is he suppose to act studious all the time?? This was a big moment in his life. When I was in college, I knew plenty of smart, intelligent guys who could act like goof balls in this situation. Don't judge him by this.

And, how exactly did he set back respect for student athletes?? Have you met many student athletes??

He is too old to be acting like a fool.

Why did a tennis player have this kind of offspring.

Byrd
04-03-2007, 09:19 PM
Where's the strobe lighting :confused:

jazar
04-03-2007, 09:21 PM
who needs basketball when you can dance like that?

mangoes
04-03-2007, 09:25 PM
He is too old to be acting like a fool.

Why did a tennis player have this kind of offspring.


The adrenaline was pumping him up........and he was ecstatic.........in situations like this, people can sometimes act like goof balls.

The real embarrassment to student athletes are those who have scholarships but don't even know the answer to 2+2. I was once asked to tutor a basketball player, on scholarship, and he didn't even know the difference between odd and even numbers:o :rolleyes: Yet, he had the 4 year scholarship, while others with a dose of intelligence racked up thousands of dollars, in bills, to get an education.

BigAlbinoDonky
04-03-2007, 09:29 PM
Lmao that is some horrendous dancing. That guy is a really good player though, he was the energy guy on that team. So it really isn't that surprising for him to go off like that. Wouldn't you just love to see Nadal do that if he wins the French again? That would be hilarious.

jole
04-03-2007, 09:37 PM
I like people who aren't serious 100% of the time, but that was pretty god awful.

kobulingam
04-03-2007, 09:45 PM
I don't know how many of you are college basketball fans, but last night, the University of Florida won its second NCAA college basketball championship (back to back no less). A yet, in the post game interview, Noah set back respect for the student athlete 100 years. Here's the clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=58JsDoQDzTA

And...for your further entertainment:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bQ3y5hTHuP4



Blame the environment.

kobulingam
04-03-2007, 09:50 PM
I do have to say- I thought it was neat of him to stay this year when after last year- his stock in the draft was as high as it ever would be. Granted- he doesn't need the money- but even so- a lot of kids would have struck while the draft iron was blazingly hot like it was last year and not have stayed in college.


He stayed because his family is already rich. He was guaranteed a #1 pick last year, millions in shoe deals, etc. etc. Would some kid who grew up in poverty, worked his ass off to make it that far, risk that opportunity - NO!

Guess what? Noah's draft stock dropped like a rock since then. He won't be getting the 40+million shoe deal. He won't even be picked in the top 3 if he leaves now. But it didn't matter much financially to *him*, because his dad has had 10234232323 endorsement/ad deals with French companies :p

danton
04-03-2007, 09:54 PM
All kids embarass their parents and all parent embarass their children. I fail to see what this has to do with Noah's legacy.

Komodo
04-03-2007, 10:43 PM
Oh god, the only one that is embarassing himself is you starting such a ridiculous thread.
Why am I sure that you haven't ever touched a basketball?

The guy just accomplished the one thing he & his teammates came back for, and solely dedicated a whole year for, and he isn't allowed to say that "we are going to party big, really big, you don't know what I'm talking about, but my Gator boys know what I'm talking about!!!"? Maybe the voice he said it in was a little comical or unnatural for an upper class kid like he is, but remember he is a baller, therefore living in a baller's environment on a daily basis. I don't see the problem.

The dancing was funny too, let the kid celebrate his emotion please.

To say that a kid who has won the NCAA twice in a row as an extremely important part of his team, being the Finals MVP the first time, is an embarassment to his dad because you don't like the way he celebrates is just absurd. The guy has managed to get to the highest level in another sport than his father! Sure, he had considerable help, but it's very impressive to go so far regardless of the circumstances.
Furthermore, he is an absolute team/energy guy, who shows a lot of personality and heart on the court, so I am very sure Yannick Noah isn't too disappointed.

amierin
04-04-2007, 12:27 AM
Oh god, the only one that is embarassing himself is you starting such a ridiculous thread.
Why am I sure that you haven't ever touched a basketball?

The guy just accomplished the one thing he & his teammates came back for, and solely dedicated a whole year for, and he isn't allowed to say that "we are going to party big, really big, you don't know what I'm talking about, but my Gator boys know what I'm talking about!!!"? Maybe the voice he said it in was a little comical or unnatural for an upper class kid like he is, but remember he is a baller, therefore living in a baller's environment on a daily basis. I don't see the problem.

The dancing was funny too, let the kid celebrate his emotion please.

To say that a kid who has won the NCAA twice in a row as an extremely important part of his team, being the Finals MVP the first time, is an embarassment to his dad because you don't like the way he celebrates is just absurd. The guy has managed to get to the highest level in another sport than his father! Sure, he had considerable help, but it's very impressive to go so far regardless of the circumstances.
Furthermore, he is an absolute team/energy guy, who shows a lot of personality and heart on the court, so I am very sure Yannick Noah isn't too disappointed.

What he/she said!:worship:

Burrow
04-04-2007, 12:29 AM
Similar to Nadal - arrogant, ugly and full of himself. Cannot.Stand.Him.

mangoes
04-04-2007, 12:35 AM
Oh god, the only one that is embarassing himself is you starting such a ridiculous thread.
Why am I sure that you haven't ever touched a basketball?

The guy just accomplished the one thing he & his teammates came back for, and solely dedicated a whole year for, and he isn't allowed to say that "we are going to party big, really big, you don't know what I'm talking about, but my Gator boys know what I'm talking about!!!"? Maybe the voice he said it in was a little comical or unnatural for an upper class kid like he is, but remember he is a baller, therefore living in a baller's environment on a daily basis. I don't see the problem.

The dancing was funny too, let the kid celebrate his emotion please.

To say that a kid who has won the NCAA twice in a row as an extremely important part of his team, being the Finals MVP the first time, is an embarassment to his dad because you don't like the way he celebrates is just absurd. The guy has managed to get to the highest level in another sport than his father! Sure, he had considerable help, but it's very impressive to go so far regardless of the circumstances.
Furthermore, he is an absolute team/energy guy, who shows a lot of personality and heart on the court, so I am very sure Yannick Noah isn't too disappointed.

Well Said and I completely agree........I can't believe such a silly thread was started over this subject.

Kitty de Sade
04-04-2007, 12:39 AM
I watched both clips that were posted. Maybe I missed what the fuss was about, but didn't really notice anything offensive. I'd rather he dance and celebrate than be mean spirited or nasty in his interviews.

Seemed like a young boy having fun actually. That's a good thing, no? (unintentional Rafa-ism ;) )

star
04-04-2007, 12:40 AM
awww You guys. Take a look at the hard road Noah has travelled.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8zAjh9yNtrM

But, seriously, I'll give the kid a break. :)

star
04-04-2007, 12:42 AM
Here's a nice one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45KSU7Lcui4&NR=1

NicoFan
04-04-2007, 12:47 AM
What a ridiculous thread.

I thought he looked like he was having a great time - his team just won the NCAA championship!!! What is he supposed to do, stand there and give an academic speech?? :lol: :lol:

Yet again, I have to ask - why are tennis fans so uptight?

Shabazza
04-04-2007, 01:05 AM
Though the dance is awful, I fail to see the embarrassment to the legacy of Yannick Noah.
Stupid thread.

sawan66278
04-04-2007, 01:10 AM
Obviously, those who are defending Joakim's actions are unaware of the already hugely negative perception among fans and media have about college athletes. NUMEROUS media experts in the States BLASTED Noah for his arrogance and total lack of class. Yes, you have won the NCAA tourney...but have some dignity...we get it, you guys are one of the few teams to repeat as champions...yes, we understand you stayed in school instead of going to the draft. But I can assure you (outside of the "most loved" Duke fans), most fans cannot stand Noah.

Jay Mohr (the comedian) was on the radio today and said (I'm paraphrasing) "Joakim, Yannick...who knows...all I know is that whenever he's around, the Florida mascot isn't...they must be one and the same"). Fans were calling in and ridiculing Yannick and Florida...what a way to taint one's victory.

And by the way: I have had a very close association with basketball...even doing marketing for the Philadelphia 76ers back in the day...whatever...

Some threads are related to tennis...some are about ancillary topics related to past players and the like...come on...

BigAlbinoDonky
04-04-2007, 01:13 AM
Obviously, those who are defending Joakim's actions are unaware of the already hugely negative perception among fans and media have about college athletes. NUMEROUS media experts in the States BLASTED Noah for his arrogance and total lack of class. Yes, you have won the NCAA tourney...but have some dignity...we get it, you guys are one of the few teams to repeat as champions...yes, we understand you stayed in school instead of going to the draft. But I can assure you (outside of the "most loved" Duke fans), most fans cannot stand Noah.

Jay Mohr (the comedian) was on the radio today and said (I'm paraphrasing) "Joakim, Yannick...who knows...all I know is that whenever he's around, the Florida mascot isn't...they must be one and the same"). Fans were calling in and ridiculing Yannick and Florida...what a way to taint one's victory.

And by the way: I have had a very close association with basketball...even doing marketing for the Philadelphia 76ers back in the day...whatever...

Some threads are related to tennis...some are about ancillary topics related to past players and the like...come on...

All that is, is an ugly thing called JEALOUSY. Jay Mohr(lame comedian by the way) probably had money on Ohio State, was pissed that they lost and felt like taking out some of his anguish on a college basketball player, what a big man he is. It's a harmless celebration.

The people complaining about Noah wouldn't be complaining if he were on their team. Noah is a high energy guy, and that is going to naturally annoy people who think athletes should stick to the straight and narrow and be boring, lifeless people. Noah has earned the right to act like an ass if he wants, as long as he isn't breaking any laws or hurting anyone, who really cares?

amierin
04-04-2007, 01:27 AM
I wonder if a lot of this hate directed toward Joakim is because he didn't have to leave school and take the money they were throwing at him. He's got some pretty stable people around him and while his personality may grate on some I think it's pretty cool what the Florida team did in staying together that one more year. He's celebrating. He plays basketball not tennis. His celebration was normal.

*Ally*
04-04-2007, 01:45 AM
You gotta love YouTube!!! Yannick, showing who's the real dancer in that family ! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ozS8_lxRI

:D ;)

TenHound
04-04-2007, 01:51 AM
I didn't see the videos, but if this son of a Swedish Model goes to the NBA, rather than taking his Lawrenceville Diploma (& whatever from Fla.) & playing in Europe, I'd bet that he'll seriously regret it :(

mangoes
04-04-2007, 02:04 AM
Obviously, those who are defending Joakim's actions are unaware of the already hugely negative perception among fans and media have about college athletes. NUMEROUS media experts in the States BLASTED Noah for his arrogance and total lack of class. Yes, you have won the NCAA tourney...but have some dignity...we get it, you guys are one of the few teams to repeat as champions...yes, we understand you stayed in school instead of going to the draft. But I can assure you (outside of the "most loved" Duke fans), most fans cannot stand Noah.

Jay Mohr (the comedian) was on the radio today and said (I'm paraphrasing) "Joakim, Yannick...who knows...all I know is that whenever he's around, the Florida mascot isn't...they must be one and the same"). Fans were calling in and ridiculing Yannick and Florida...what a way to taint one's victory.

And by the way: I have had a very close association with basketball...even doing marketing for the Philadelphia 76ers back in the day...whatever...

Some threads are related to tennis...some are about ancillary topics related to past players and the like...come on...

All of this has to do with a green eyed monster - JEALOUSY. And for someone who has worked in marketing, you should know better than to fall for such nonsense on a morning talk show.

His reaction wasn't out of the ordinary for a young guy who just won the NCAA championship for a second time in a row. Should he have given an acceptance speech with a couple of latin quotes?

njtennis11
04-04-2007, 03:28 AM
Joakim is an absolute moron, but it has nothing to do with his father.

buddyholly
04-04-2007, 03:35 AM
Who would have thought Yannick and a former Miss World(?) could get together and produce something that looks and sounds that bad?

Clara Bow
04-04-2007, 03:55 AM
NUMEROUS media experts in the States BLASTED Noah for his arrogance and total lack of class.

While I said that I didn't understand why Noah has been acting the way he has in some of his interviews (I don't care a whit about his dancing)- how is he arrogant??? He never praises himself- just his team. And there is a huge difference. When folks have praised him for good play- he always points out other team members. There is a difference between team pride and arrogance- and actually most media stories that I have read- even if they get annoyed with Joakim in some respects (i.e. talking about the haters)- have always pointed out that he is unselfish and is quick to give his team mates credit and deflect it from himself. I fail to see how that is blasting the kid for arrogance. I am curious as to what media experts- and by experts I don't mean random bloggers- have been blasting Noah for arrogance about himself and his abilities.

Kalliopeia
04-04-2007, 10:12 AM
Being a huge college basketball fan, there is absolutely nothing in that video that isn't just like the way every other elated kid on a basketball team acts when they win something huge. He was just part of a team that won their second NCAA championship in a row, something that doesn't happen very often, and he was excited, what's the big deal? He didn't sound particularly intelligent, no, but he was just being a kid and celebrating with his friends. And most kids don't sound particularly intelligent in those situations. :) I don't see what the fuss is all about.

Komodo
04-04-2007, 11:46 AM
The "fuss" is called Sawan48t49438 and doesn't like Roger Federer because "he doesn't even give the credit for his victories to god!!!"

komodo

btw, nbadraft.net still has Noah going a #6, which is still very good, but he isn't the number one Gator anymore. And 3 guys from one college in the top 8? That's ridiculous!
1 Memphis - Oden
2 Boston - Durant
3 Milwaukee - Wright
4 Phoenix - Horford
5 Charlotte - Yi Jianlian
6 Philly - Noah
7 Portland - Green
8 Seattle - Brewer

sawan66278
04-05-2007, 12:59 AM
Actually, two of the experts were Mike Francessa and Chris Russo of The Fan 660 AM in New York...one of the longest running and most respected talk radio programs in the nation.

cmurray
04-05-2007, 01:43 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. He's just an excited kid. :shrug:

The dancing was bad, but its not....offensive.