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The poker thread

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 09:14 AM
Is there some poker addicts on here ?

I admit being one, I play about 30 hours a week (live and online) and make some money with (though I'm far from making a living with).

I am a huge fan of HSP (High Stakes Poker) cash game show on GSN and NBC poker after dark sit and goes too...

My favorite pro players are: Greenstein, Negreanu, Farah, Ivey and Antonius.

I'm looking forward to playing the WSOP main event in Vegas this year :cool:

Mara_M
04-03-2007, 11:59 AM
so you like Negreanu :yeah:

i'm not the kind to play (i'm not allowed yet :o) but when my net is down or when i'm bored i use to play texas hold'em on my pc. and also give my mates some poker lessons in free classes at school :devil:

i used to like Ram Vaswani (is that spelled right :o?) what happened to him :awww:? i haven't seen him in a major competition (as the masters series or WCH ) for...like 2 years :o maybe my tv coverage is not proper :o.

Anyway,Texas hold'em is best style me thinks :)

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 12:05 PM
Yes, no limit hold'em is my favourite game too, by far...

I use to play Omaha online too, very few people master that game, and that's easy money nowadays, poker rooms are very fishy :) ...

Mara_M
04-03-2007, 12:09 PM
hmmmm you need too many skills on Omaha,you need to stay focused too much :p

do you play big man's blind too (not online :lol: )?

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 12:15 PM
[QUOTE=Mara_M;5134927
do you play big man's blind too (not online :lol: )?[/QUOTE]

No, my bankroll is too small yet, I can't afford it :sad: I play mainly for fun actually, I once lost 1000$ in a game and that hurted, I don't want to do such a mistake again...

bad gambler
04-03-2007, 12:32 PM
I'm more into Omaha High or 7 card stud, of course go back to basics and play Texas hold'em every now and again as well.

I used to spend a ridiculous amount of hours playing online, still play but not as much these days.

its.like.that
04-03-2007, 01:48 PM
Poker is for fools. :o

Real men play russian roulette.

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 01:50 PM
Poker is for fools. :o

Real men play russian roulette.

Poker is not about luck, it's all about skills :cool: :o

Horatio Caine
04-03-2007, 01:53 PM
Poker is not about luck, it's all about skills :cool: :o

:haha: :haha:

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 01:58 PM
:haha: :haha:

Only donkeys complain about bad luck in poker... :o :wavey:

Horatio Caine
04-03-2007, 02:04 PM
Only donkeys complain about bad luck in poker... :o :wavey:

I don't play it, so what does that make you? :o

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 02:06 PM
I don't play it, so what does that make you? :o

So you have no clue about what you're talking about... :o

Poker is actually 10% luck 90% skills :o :cool:

Horatio Caine
04-03-2007, 02:08 PM
So you have no clue about what you're talking about... :o

Poker is actually 10% luck 90% skills :o :cool:

I've played if a fair number of times, but I don't play online and I'm not an addict.

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 02:11 PM
I've played if a fair number of times, but I don't play online and I'm not an addict.

So you should be aware it's hardly a game that involves luck... :o :angel:

Horatio Caine
04-03-2007, 02:11 PM
So you should be aware it's hardly a game that involves luck... :o :angel:

If you're playing against the house, of course it is down to luck.

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 02:15 PM
If you're playing against the house, of course it is down to luck.

That's not poker. Poker is about reading the opponents and calculating the probabilities, odds (and implied odds), and that's called skills...

Horatio Caine
04-03-2007, 02:17 PM
That's not poker. Poker is about reading the opponents and calculating the probabilities, odds (and implied odds), and that's called skills...

If that's what you want to call it, and it keeps you happy...

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 02:23 PM
Bad players complain about bad luck and just await to get luckier, that's why they're dead money :drool: :drool: :cool:

stebs
04-03-2007, 03:40 PM
If that's what you want to call it, and it keeps you happy...

Seriously mate, poker is all about skill in almost all situations. You can get lucky sometimes but to consistently perform well you must be good.

Deivid23
04-03-2007, 04:28 PM
:lol:

GL, lil parrot

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 04:30 PM
Glad to see you participate Deivitard :wavey:

I do like your fellow Spaniard Carlos Mortensen by the way :cool:

Deivid23
04-03-2007, 05:43 PM
Glad to see you participate Deivitard :wavey:

I do like your fellow Spaniard Carlos Mortensen by the way :cool:


Btw there are way more clever games than poker in cards, just not that popular. Try to google "pocha" for instance ;)

bokehlicious
04-03-2007, 05:46 PM
Btw there are way more clever games than poker in cards, just not that popular. Try to google "pocha" for instance ;)

No limit Texas hold'em is the ultimate card game :)

I'll have a look at your "pocha" though, thanks, I'm interested in all sorts of card games ;)

Deivid23
04-04-2007, 05:50 AM
No limit Texas hold'em is the ultimate card game :)

I'll have a look at your "pocha" though, thanks, I'm interested in all sorts of card games ;)


I´ve played all kind of card games during my whole life and I´d rather play a pocha anyday over a NL Texas Hold´em;)

Mara_M
04-04-2007, 06:58 AM
Poker is for fools. :o

Real men play russian roulette.

:haha:

Jim,why don't u try and tell us how's it :p?

bad gambler
04-04-2007, 08:07 AM
Real men play russian roulette.

Why because more skill is involved? :lol:

its.like.that
04-04-2007, 12:18 PM
Why because more skill is involved? :lol:

Nope.

Because more fear is involved.

Try it sometime.

;)

bokehlicious
04-04-2007, 12:28 PM
Ivey's getting bluffed on a 300'000$ pot and has to lay down his pair of kings on HSP :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN8_gO1_Njg

Sunset of Age
04-04-2007, 12:33 PM
I´ve played all kind of card games during my whole life

Ever tried the noble game of BRIDGE, Deivid? :D

Mara_M
04-04-2007, 06:22 PM
Nope.

Because more fear is involved.

Try it sometime.

;)

adrenalin :p

men :rolleyes:

bokehlicious
04-05-2007, 01:22 PM
Interesting article for those who still think poker is all about luck :angel:

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/pro-tips-archive.php?player=Ben%20Roberts&tip=98

"How Much Luck? How Much Skill?
Ben Roberts
March 30th, 2007

View Player's Tips

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If you've ever sat at a poker table, you've invariably heard the questions asked in the title of this article. While all serious players believe poker is a game of skill, they don't always agree on how skilful a game it really is. Some people believe the skill to luck ratio falls at somewhere around 70% - 30%, while others argue that the ratio is closer to 90% - 10%. If you ask me, however, I'll tell you something you won't hear from almost anybody else. Poker is 100% skilful.

Now, I know many of you are already skeptical about how I can make this kind of claim. What about bad beats? Or the times you're out-drawn on the river? How can I not figure these kinds of situations into my thinking? The fact is, I already have. Variance is part of poker and it would be highly unusual if bad beats didn't occasionally happen or if two-outers didn't sometimes hit on the river, as this would defy the laws of probability. The fact is, these kinds of events should have less of an impact on your overall results the more you play.

If you only play a few hands or a few hours of poker at a time, luck will undoubtedly play a bigger factor in your results than if you play regularly. For example, let's look at a player who puts in eight hours a day, five days a week, for 50 weeks per year, which is equivalent to 2,000 hours at the table. Assuming this is a solid, smart player who doesn't vary his or her stakes throughout the course of the year, I believe their talent will outweigh the effect of luck to ensure that they produce positive results year after year. That's not to say this player won't run into the occasional rough patch or have losing sessions, but by sticking to their game plan, these occasional down-turns shouldn't adversely affect their bottom line.

In effect, all players get paid for every good decision that they make and penalized for their bad ones. By continuously making high-quality decisions over the course of so many hours, skilful players should make more good decisions than bad, and see their bankrolls grow as a result. I have done this for more than 33 years, and know many other professional players who have produced similar results for many years. What this shows me is that, over the long haul, luck is not only insignificant when it comes to your results - it's non-existent.

It takes a true professional to look at poker in this way, and I fully expect that many people will disagree with my conclusions. That's why I'm holding a scheduled chat session entitled "Poker - Luck or Skill" on Full Tilt Poker at 15:00 ET (3PM ET) on Saturday, April 7th. I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have about my position and further explain why I believe that, over the long term, luck has nothing to do with being a winning poker player.

Ben Roberts"

Grinder
06-15-2007, 12:43 AM
We should get an MTF table of Texas Hold'em on PokerStars.

bad gambler
06-15-2007, 01:02 AM
We should get an MTF table of Texas Hold'em on PokerStars.

I'm in :cool:

vincayou
06-15-2007, 10:48 AM
I used to play a lot online. OK... I still play a lot.

I play on partyPoker.
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/partypoker/vinzayou/playerresults/2/84292805E62647D89A1F856F9CD01A53.html

Fact is, I work from home now, and I'm always tempted to start a game. Grrrr...

I'm hitting a bad patch now, hopefully it won't last too long. This game is very difficult and I'm not very convinced I'm good at it.

Kolya
06-15-2007, 10:55 AM
Stu Ungar!!!

bokehlicious
06-16-2007, 07:58 PM
We should get an MTF table of Texas Hold'em on PokerStars.

We could organize a weekly private "MTF sit&go" (single table or multi-table), NLH or PLO, either on pokerstars or fulltilt... :cool:

Grinder
06-16-2007, 10:57 PM
We could organize a weekly private "MTF sit&go" (single table or multi-table), NLH or PLO, either on pokerstars or fulltilt... :cool:

Absolutely, I'm in, I know Prabu is. :smoke:

I use Pokerstars and Full Tilt, we should do play money tables so everyone can play.

Jogy
06-22-2007, 01:27 PM
was the poker online rooom for our little clown brain closed today or why did the fool go to trolling in the Nadal forum today? :confused:

must still hurt that Nadal slaughters Federer hard on clay and that Federer only got his mickey mouse win in Hamburg, but on big stage it is Nadal who wins :haha: :haha:

Marek.
06-22-2007, 05:29 PM
was the poker online rooom for our little clown brain closed today or why did the fool go to trolling in the Nadal forum today? :confused:

must still hurt that Nadal slaughters Federer hard on clay and that Federer only got his mickey mouse win in Hamburg, but on big stage it is Nadal who wins :haha: :haha:

Four sets is considered a slaughter? Anyway, that won't matter in a few weeks when Federer is holding that golden cup again.

bokehlicious
06-26-2007, 12:15 PM
:lol: :lol: I missed that my friend Jogy added his 2 cents to the thread (off topic though) :hatoff:

Back on track, the WSOP ME is about to begin, who do you think will win, another luckbox amateur or a confirmed pro ? The field should this year be huge again (over 8'000)...

Unfortunately I won't play it so no shot to become the next millionaire.... :sad: :o

I hope Antonius make a good run, last week Poker After Dark was brilliant, he just owned Booth heads up :cool:

stebs
06-26-2007, 01:59 PM
I can't see a pro winning it but the best bets are Ivey, Cunningham, Hellmuth and Antonius if a pro is to win it all. The older pro's tire mentally and throw their chips away and the agressive pro's end up being sucked out on which is to be expected if they are playing a load of big pots with ameteurs. The 50k HORSE event is happening now and many argue that the winner of that is the REAL WSOP champ because it's almost all pro's.

El Legenda
06-26-2007, 02:20 PM
i played a lot during my first 2 years in college, not so much last year. we would play like 10-15, sometimes 20 people, $20buy in, winner, 2nd and 3rd get money, winner 65% 2nd 25% and 3rd 10%
won a couple of those. never got into online poker with real money, because its :bs: you win like 10straight hands and then lose next 15 :lol:

bokehlicious
06-26-2007, 02:33 PM
The 50k HORSE event is happening now and many argue that the winner of that is the REAL WSOP champ because it's almost all pro's.

Agreed ;)

A high-quality field there :cool:. I dont' know why Chip Reese is not defending his bracelet though :confused: strange...

bokehlicious
06-26-2007, 02:37 PM
never got into online poker with real money, because its :bs: you win like 10straight hands and then lose next 15 :lol:

Only poor players think online poker is rigged :p

Online poker is for sure the easiest way to make money out of the bunch of fishes and donkeys...

El Legenda
06-26-2007, 03:27 PM
Only poor players think online poker is rigged :p

Online poker is for sure the easiest way to make money out of the bunch of fishes and donkeys...

its not rigged, but its not real poker, i want my cards to come from a human hand not a software generated.

bokehlicious
06-26-2007, 03:50 PM
its not rigged, but its not real poker, i want my cards to come from a human hand not a software generated.

The hands are dealt more randomly with the internet poker softwares than with the human hands... But I agree that real poker is a lot more exciting and fun :cool:

bokehlicious
06-27-2007, 08:51 AM
WSOP HORSE 50k, 21 players remaining at the end of day 3, with 18 ITM...

Some great names as expected:

Amnon Filippi - 2,343,000
Kenny Tran - 1,959,000
Bruno Fitoussi - 1,248,000
John Hanson - 1,215,000
David Singer - 1,017,000
Freddy Deeb - 963,000
Tim Phan - 889,000
Barry Greenstein - 700,000
Mike Matusow - 696,000
Gabe Kaplan - 625,000
Thor Hansen - 537,000
Chris Reslock - 536,000
Greg Raymer - 504,000
Mark Gregorich - 386,000
Justin Bonomo - 295,000
Stephen Wolff - 263,000
Dewey Tomko - 248,000
Noah Jefferson - 167,000
Daniel Negreanu - 149,000
Patrick Pezzin - 102,000
Max Pescatori - 81,000

stebs
06-28-2007, 09:12 AM
I hope Greenstein can take it down. He's a really strong player although I think he prefers cash games over tournaments.

bokehlicious
06-28-2007, 06:41 PM
I hope Greenstein can take it down. He's a really strong player although I think he prefers cash games over tournaments.

Barry made the final table :cool:

The action continues today, final eights:

Amnon Filippi 4,015,000
Freddy Deeb 3,500,000
Kenny Tran 2,445,000
John Hanson 1,995,000
Barry Greenstein 1,995,000
David Singer 1,330,000
Bruno Fitoussi 895,000
Thor Hansen 40,000


$2,276,832 to the winner, go Barry and outplay that field (as he gives his tournament wins to charity :worship: )

bokehlicious
06-29-2007, 04:58 AM
Only 4 players remaining in the 50k HORSE... Barry is out :sad:

A Frenchie is leading, don't know who's the last Frenchman to win a bracelet...

Bruno Fitoussi 6,815,000
John Hanson 3,135,000
Freddy Deeb 2,890,000
Amnon Filippi 1,580,000
Kenny Tran 0
David Singer 0
Barry Greenstein 0
Thor Hansen 0

bokehlicious
06-29-2007, 04:34 PM
Deeb took down the Frenchman HU... Well done Freddy :yeah:

"Freddy Deeb is the new Iron-Man of Poker! After five days of play, ending with a final table that went 341 hands and lasted more than fourteen hours, Freddy ended up with all the chips. He wins one of the most coveted titles in poker, a gold bracelet, and a whopping $2,276,832 first place prize. Congratulations Freddy!"

stebs
06-29-2007, 05:19 PM
Good job Freddy.

bokehlicious
07-06-2007, 08:19 AM
I just watched again the ME 06 final table... Sick how Gold ran good, he hit every single flop, numerous suckouts... :eek: Cunnhingham almost everytime took the right decision, made huge laydowns and got knocked out on a flip against the luckbox who called his pre-flop all-in with KJ off-suited..

bokehlicious
07-18-2007, 11:11 AM
The WSOP ME has just ended (phew, exhausted, I just stuck 16h on the livestream).

The new Word Champion is: Jerry Yang

http://news.pokerpages.com/administrator/components/com_g2integration/images/g2_123_EV55_Jerry%20Yang.jpg

He had an amazing run in the final table, walking on water throughout this 7th day... Very loose aggressive play, and got lucky when needed.

Another journeyman world champion though :zzz:

bokehlicious
08-09-2007, 12:20 PM
The online poker world is insane...

Almost every single month you see young guns pop up and play at the highest online stakes.

There are tons of Scandinavian top players who just turn 18 and can legally play the game... And they're destroying the game...

Old online players such as Hansen, Benyamine or Townsend are having hard times with those young fearless players... I hope they're managing their bankrolls wisely enough not to get broke soon...

An example of those young guns is Kaibuxxe on FullTiltPoker (a 19 years old Austrian guy), the guy is up over 2,5M$ within the last month (more than 80 buy-ins :eek: ) and is destroying the high stakes PLO games...

I wish I could be that talented and make an easy living out of poker... :(

Grinder
10-12-2007, 03:45 PM
Yang got really lucky not to lose it at the end. He had a 3-1 chip lead coming down to the final four and almost blew it by raising Kravchenko and getting burned each time. :lol:

Burrow
10-13-2007, 12:02 AM
Used to watch alot of poker, really enjoy the World Poker Tour.

Play on Pacific Poker.

bokehlicious
10-17-2007, 05:10 PM
Frenchies are known to be chokers in sports and yesterday's Barcelona WPT was no exception. A new young French gun failed to win in spite having a 4-1 chiplead once the HU began... He managed to outplay the final table (aggressive play, busting out Gus "the great Dane" Hansen along the way) and choked when it mattered most.

bokehlicious
11-06-2007, 04:05 PM
The best poker TV show "GSN high stakes poker" is starting to go nuts. The min. buy-in this season is 500k$ no less :o (biggest TV cash game ever). The line-ip is great with Brunson, Greestein, Farha, Antonius, Benyamine, Gold, Esfandiari and Laliberte (billionaire, owner of the "Cirque du Soleil", supposed fish). The first episode has already seen some big pots, one of those made by Benyamine who bluffed out Gold-self-proclaimed-best-bluffer with 72o for a big pot :lol: and Laliberte is running good, catching cards and winning a few decent pots...

http://www.pokertube.com/SearchMovies.aspx?FreeText=high%20stakes%20poker%2 0s04

bokehlicious
12-05-2007, 11:13 AM
Poker legend David "chip" Reese passed away yesterday... :sad:

One of the most successful high stakes cash game player ever...

RIP

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/article/10365/chip-reese-1951-2007

stebs
12-05-2007, 11:35 AM
Jamie Gold is one of my most disliked people. I mean he thinks he can play but watching him on HSP shows you the difference between luck and skill. Luck is Jamie Gold at WSOP '06, skill is everyone else taking his chips systematically on HSP. I swear I could outplay that guy.

bokehlicious
12-05-2007, 12:56 PM
I agree. Gold is annoying to hell on HSP... So much talking, so much donkey play... He won 2/3 of a huge pot vs Antonius when Patrik hit his straight on the turn and Jamie called the all-in with a set, which turned into a full house 2 out of the 3 rivers they dealt.

I was so pissed at Farha on the hand KK vs AA when Sam didn't value bet the river as Jamie would have called any shove for sure... And it was clear as water that Jamie held the kings... :shrug:

bokehlicious
01-11-2008, 08:22 AM
According to this source Jay-Z just lost 500k$ playing high stakes in Vegas...

http://www.hiphopgame.com/news.php3?id=2174

If that's true then he's a real tool :o

SwiSha
03-30-2008, 06:58 PM
stick to hip hop Jay Z, backstabbing SOB

u need brains for poker

SwiSha
03-30-2008, 10:06 PM
I was so pissed at Farha on the hand KK vs AA when Sam didn't value bet the river as Jamie would have called any shove for sure... And it was clear as water that Jamie held the kings... :shrug:

Gold was on his knees... u got the kings sammy, are u really doing to this to mee

pathetic, sammy really showed mercy dunno why though

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 03:32 PM
anyone knows if there will be a 5th season of HSP

bokehlicious
04-03-2008, 03:37 PM
Hope so... Bring on more Gold or Laliberté :cool:

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 03:39 PM
Hope so... Bring on more Gold or Laliberté :cool:

Benyamine should thank Guy for the break he gave him, that was a stupid all in call

i want more Matusow Hellmuth Sheikhan and Negreanu at the table, boy that would be one funny table

bokehlicious
04-03-2008, 03:44 PM
Benyamine should thank Guy for the break he gave him, that was a stupid all in call

i want more Matusow Hellmuth Sheikhan and Negreanu at the table, boy that would be one funny table

My perfect 8-handed table would be:

Antonius (poker GOAT :p)
Farha (entertaining value)
Matusow (entertaining value)
Hellmuth (entertaining value)
Gold (fish)
Tony G (entertaining value)
Negreanu
Townsend

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 03:48 PM
that is one entertaining table, Antonius will probably not say too much but okay i can see why u want him in there, forgot Farha he has to be at the table, nobody plays garbage hands better than him, one true gambler
for beef purposes u will need Sheikhan in there, has a funny history with Matusow and Hellmuth

bokehlicious
04-03-2008, 03:51 PM
I can't stand the Sheik :shrug: arrogant brat that is average at poker... (I like him when he pisses off Hellmuth though :o)

Fahra is the reason a lot guys play in the Big Game... Degenerate gambler :cool:

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 03:56 PM
i cant stand Shawn either he is a prick, but like u said pissing Hellmuth off at poker after dark was just too funny

Phil has the best and funniest reactions after losses :lol: never fails to mention that people wont let him win a pot, or how bad people are calling him with nothing just to knock him out.. and then of course i ve been playing holdem for 20 years and i am the best of the world .... by far

bokehlicious
04-03-2008, 04:00 PM
Phil has the best and funniest reactions after losses :lol: never fails to mention that people wont let him win a pot, or how bad people are calling him with nothing just to knock him out.. and then of course i ve been playing holdem for 20 years and i am the best of the world .... by far

"I have made millions of dollars on my reading abilities" :lol:
"I can dodge bullets baby"
"I'm the best hold'em player in the world"

So many funny quotes from the Phil... :cool: :D

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 04:03 PM
that with reading abilities just killed me when i saw that :lol:

also a funny reaction when Farha called a 25000 or 20000 raise with a K7 against Pocket Q and ended up winning the pot, he just couldnt believe it :haha:

bokehlicious
04-03-2008, 04:08 PM
also a funny reaction when Farha called a 25000 or 20000 raise with a K7 against Pocket Q and ended up winning the pot, he just couldnt believe it :haha:

that was a classic indeed :haha: you gotta love Phil when he's pissed off :cool:

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 04:15 PM
Ivey is still my fav and arguably the best imo

bokehlicious
04-03-2008, 05:00 PM
Ivey is world class for sure...

Him folding his pocket kings on a that rag flop in HSP vs Booth's shove was awful though :o

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 05:05 PM
Ivey is world class for sure...

Him folding his pocket kings on a that rag flop in HSP vs Booth's shove was awful though :o

yeah it was not a great move, but honestly i dunno if i would not do the same it was too little in the pot with Booth raising 300 K, he did have the best hand and yea u dont like to get bluffed on t,if ivey would have invested a lil more earlier he definitely would have called or went all in, i remember even kaplan advising Ivey to throw his hand away,

Booth was looking for some tv glory i guess

all in all we saw not enough phil ivey on HSP, 3 episodes if i remember right

bokehlicious
04-03-2008, 05:12 PM
Yep, we didn't see him enough and he didn't have to play big pots...

On that particular hand (KK), Booth exactly put him on a big poker pair and thought his shove would make him throw it away (which Ivey did)... Ivey didn't know Booth well enough to risk his stack on that spot... I'm pretty sure it would have been an insta call vs the likes of Farha or Patrik though...

That said Kaplan is a nit, he'd fold pocket queens preflop vs a 3-bet :o :p

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 05:15 PM
Yep, we didn't see him enough and he didn't have to play big pots...

On that particular hand (KK), Booth exactly put him on a big poker pair and thought his shove would make him throw it away (which Ivey did)... Ivey didn't know Booth well enough to risk his stack on that spot... I'm pretty sure it would have been an insta call vs the likes of Farha or Patrik though...

That said Kaplan is a nit, he'd fold pocket queens preflop vs a 3-bet :o :p

i guess you are right he just didnt want to gamble against a guy he barely knew, as for Kaplan :lol:

bokehlicious
04-03-2008, 05:20 PM
Some thought Ivey threw his hand away because of the size of the pot... That's bs, Ivey never plays scared money, he doesn't mind playing for hundreds of thousands bucks online every day :shrug: 300k$ just means 2 or 3 buy-ins at his stakes...

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 05:26 PM
fair point

i would have loved to see him busting Andy Beal for 16 milion dollars, that was incredible

bokehlicious
04-03-2008, 05:31 PM
Yup he ***** him for quite some millions :cool:

I like to watch him on his private heads-up tables on full tilt. Win (or lose) hundreds of thousands dollars in minutes is insane... But highly entertaining :)

SwiSha
04-03-2008, 05:33 PM
Yup he ***** him for quite some millions :cool:

I like to watch him on his private heads-up tables on full tilt. Win (or lose) hundreds of thousands dollars in minutes is insane... But highly entertaining :)

yeah i have a hard time calling myself a gambler when i see these crazy guys go at each other with insane stakes

Johnny Groove
05-12-2009, 03:12 PM
I play online all the time. Very fun and addicting.

jonathancrane
05-12-2009, 03:20 PM
You got nasty habits
weed
poker
nadull
...

:p

Johnny Groove
05-12-2009, 03:26 PM
What can I say? I'm full of vices.

Pfloyd
05-12-2009, 03:29 PM
:wavey:

I play!

Johnny Groove
05-12-2009, 03:33 PM
Which site? I play at Pokerstars. :cool:

Pfloyd
05-12-2009, 03:43 PM
Which site? I play at Pokerstars. :cool:

Hah, I also have Poker Stars, but for some reason I am having trouble starting the program....


It's some e-mail problem I think, so as soon as I fix it, I'll let you know so you can tell me which room you play in.

Gotta warn you, I'm very good (about half the time) :p

Ilovetheblues_86
05-12-2009, 03:47 PM
Pink Floyd, do you listen to Syd Barrett while using acid too?

Johnny Groove
05-12-2009, 03:47 PM
Good stuff.

Pokerstars has tournaments and tables going 24/7. I made about 100k in a few days of fake money :lol:

jmf07
05-12-2009, 03:50 PM
I play it sometimes. I just downloaded the Pokerstars one before. Probably won't play it for another week or so.

Pfloyd
05-12-2009, 04:09 PM
Pink Floyd, do you listen to Syd Barrett while using acid too?

Nope, it's very hard to find legit acid here in Boca.

But I have done so with shrooms + weed, which is quite an experience.

;)

Babolat - Dan
05-12-2009, 08:34 PM
I sometimes play on PKR.com.

Thanos
05-15-2009, 04:31 PM
I sometimes play on PKR.com.

use to play there. the animation was good but its eat your bandwidth like a bitch.

ExcaliburII
05-15-2009, 06:09 PM
I play at pokerstars. when i was at holidays this year i played like 5 hours a day at least or more. :lol: Now i play, maybe 5 or 6 tournaments a week. I play under the name Cabezadebuey

Johnny Groove
05-15-2009, 07:26 PM
The WSOP tourneys that go like once an hour these days are funny. Guys going all in on the first hand with a 6-9 off suit :lol:

out_here_grindin
05-19-2009, 01:18 AM
I love playing online poker. I love those multitalbe tournamnets. The best I have ever done is 13th out of 3500. I usually play partypoker but sometimes i use bodog or pokerstars.

rosespower
05-19-2009, 09:23 AM
Me, poker on pokerstars...and i didn't won enough money to cash:lol:

Mimi
05-19-2009, 09:29 AM
seesm the extreme fedtard JM power plays this, you may play with him after his ban was lifted :devil:

Johnny Groove
05-19-2009, 03:26 PM
seesm the extreme fedtard JM power plays this, you may play with him after his ban was lifted :devil:

Hopefully so. If he's half as good as he is in Fantasy Baseball, it should be some good stuff. :cool:

Jimnik
05-19-2009, 03:34 PM
A few years ago I really got into it and played regularly on Spin Palace Poker. Then I started losing money which made me lose patience which in turn made me lose more money. So I got out of it and haven't been back since.

It's so hard to compete nowadays. The standard of poker players online seems to improve every year. With all this TV coverage poker's been getting following the explosion of online activity, everyone knows what they're doing.

I'm much better gambling on my horses (Federer, Nadal etc..). When you really follow tennis closely it can be possible to out-wit the market.

bokehlicious
06-06-2009, 01:57 PM
I actually play online poker since 2005, building up a bankroll that allowed me to play 5/10$ (NLHE and PLO mainly), I fucked it all up some months ago (having a shot at bigger stakes) and have now to grind the small stakes again :( life is sick for poker players :sad: :o

PS: I play mainly on ps too

SwiSha
06-09-2009, 05:32 PM
Ivey got his 6th bracelet and a couple of millions in sidebets :worship:

seems like he takes the WSOP serious this year, also got deep in another 2 events

vamos GOAT

SwiSha
06-09-2009, 05:42 PM
btw is there anything better than watching durr and GuS HU ? sick million swings in less than 24 hours

Antonius with a fantastic year so far, also leading and busting durrs azz in the joke challenge

bokehlicious
06-10-2009, 01:07 PM
btw is there anything better than watching durr and GuS HU ? sick million swings in less than 24 hours

Antonius with a fantastic year so far, also leading and busting durrs azz in the joke challenge

Dwan vs Antonius HU is better than Dwan vs Gus.


Oh, and Patrik is GOAT, donkaments don't count :p

bokehlicious
06-10-2009, 03:29 PM
btw is there anything better than watching durr and GuS HU ? sick million swings in less than 24 hours


http://www.highstakesdb.com/1104-durrrr-wins-480k-against-gus-hansen-on-plo-hu.aspx :worship: tough end of day at the office for the Great Dane :tape: Dwan is awesome but also runs good...

bad gambler
06-11-2009, 06:45 AM
c'mooooon Scotty Nguyen!!!! :rocker2:

bokehlicious
06-11-2009, 10:11 AM
Scotty will surely quit poker at the end of the WSOP since there's no way he wins his insane side bet... :tape: :o

SwiSha
06-11-2009, 12:04 PM
Dwan vs Antonius HU is better than Dwan vs Gus.

in terms of entertainment and tilting :p no wayyy, these million dollar swings in one day are just priceless


Oh, and Patrik is GOAT, donkaments don't count :p

Patrik is good , very very very good, but there is only 1 Ivey ;)

SwiSha
06-11-2009, 12:09 PM
http://www.highstakesdb.com/1104-durrrr-wins-480k-against-gus-hansen-on-plo-hu.aspx :worship: tough end of day at the office for the Great Dane :tape: Dwan is awesome but also runs good...

i have seen both hot playing great and cold playing just awful calling huge bets with marginals hands, but yeah Dwan got the edge no doubt...great fucking poker talent

craziest thing about the Dane is how he blew almost 3-4 million in a week a month ago or so, that was unreal tilting.. the Donks Dang Brothers and nerd Galfond looking forward to these situations, they wont play anybody else

SwiSha
06-11-2009, 12:11 PM
Negreanu with a very good WSOP run so far, he gets deep in almost every tournament

bokehlicious
06-11-2009, 12:27 PM
i have seen both hot playing great and cold playing just awful calling huge bets with marginals hands, but yeah Dwan got the edge no doubt...great fucking poker talent

craziest thing about the Dane is how he blew almost 3-4 million in a week a month ago or so, that was unreal tilting.. the Donks Dang Brothers and nerd Galfond looking forward to these situations, they wont play anybody else

Did you get to see the "famous" hand involving Greenstein, Dwan and Eastgate in this season's HSP? Dwan getting them to fold the best hands with an uber aggressive play, double barreling both the flop and the turn :eek: that kid surely isn't playing scared money :o

SwiSha
06-11-2009, 04:34 PM
Did you get to see the "famous" hand involving Greenstein, Dwan and Eastgate in this season's HSP? Dwan getting them to fold the best hands with an uber aggressive play, double barreling both the flop and the turn :eek: that kid surely isn't playing scared money :o

that was insane and absolutely brilliant from Dwan, on the other hand a scared play Eastgate folding his trips, Tom knew exactly where he was at in that play and bet Doyle that Peter gave up the best hand

that was brilliant, kid got game

SwiSha
06-11-2009, 04:35 PM
I would like to see less Phil Laak, Esfandiari and these other joke Hollywood players and more Sammy, Ziggy, Patrik, Benyamine, durr, Ivey etc in HSP

too much bs talking and bad players for my taste

bokehlicious
06-11-2009, 04:45 PM
that was insane and absolutely brilliant from Dwan, on the other hand a scared play Eastgate folding his trips, Tom knew exactly where he was at in that play and bet Doyle that Peter gave up the best hand

that was brilliant, kid got game

Sick reading by Durrrr here, indeed... Eastgate's mistake is on the flop imo, he should definitely have reraised, Dwan wouldn't have gone over the top and probably folded. By just calling the 30k$ on the flop and basically told the other guys his hand... trips no kicker... Dwan took advantage of the big stacks (Dwan and Eastage had around 500k$ each when the hand started). Eastage was either "way ahead or way behind" and he knew it. Eastage felt like he wouldn't want to invest his entire stack (he invested less than 10% of it so far) on such situation and chose to fold on the turn. Dwan could have had possibly only 3 hands in his range at this point: tens full, better trips (something like A2) or air... He took the wrong decision in the end, but I'm sure he would've made a far bigger mistake had he been stacked off by better trips (or tens full).

bokehlicious
06-11-2009, 04:51 PM
I would like to see less Phil Laak, Esfandiari and these other joke Hollywood players and more Sammy, Ziggy, Patrik, Benyamine, durr, Ivey etc in HSP

too much bs talking and bad players for my taste

True, Laak is annoying and is totally owned by such a lineup... Antonio is a nice guy but indeed talks too much :o

Imo, a perfect lineup for HSP would be 6 handed and look like: Patrik, Ivey, Durrr, Zigmund, Benyamine and Sammy for entertaining purpose.

No more Doyle, Daniel, Helmuth, Laak, etc...

SwiSha
06-11-2009, 08:46 PM
Sick reading by Durrrr here, indeed... Eastgate's mistake is on the flop imo, he should definitely have reraised, Dwan wouldn't have gone over the top and probably folded. By just calling the 30k$ on the flop and basically told the other guys his hand... trips no kicker... Dwan took advantage of the big stacks (Dwan and Eastage had around 500k$ each when the hand started). Eastage was either "way ahead or way behind" and he knew it. Eastage felt like he wouldn't want to invest his entire stack (he invested less than 10% of it so far) on such situation and chose to fold on the turn. Dwan could have had possibly only 3 hands in his range at this point: tens full, better trips (something like A2) or air... He took the wrong decision in the end, but I'm sure he would've made a far bigger mistake had he been stacked off by better trips (or tens full).

yep spot on analysis :yeah:

SwiSha
06-11-2009, 08:49 PM
True, Laak is annoying and is totally owned by such a lineup... Antonio is a nice guy but indeed talks too much :o

Imo, a perfect lineup for HSP would be 6 handed and look like: Patrik, Ivey, Durrr, Zigmund, Benyamine and Sammy for entertaining purpose.

No more Doyle, Daniel, Helmuth, Laak, etc...

couldnt agree more, thats a perfect HSP lineup full of aggressive gamblers, i might even add Gus into the mix, also i would like them to play a lot more PLO since this is already the most played game online and generates just so much more action

Doyle is annoying, Phil is more interested in the Tv time and Daniel just talks too damn much and really played awful on almost every HSP season losing a ton..

bokehlicious
06-11-2009, 09:39 PM
couldnt agree more, thats a perfect HSP lineup full of aggressive gamblers, i might even add Gus into the mix, also i would like them to play a lot more PLO since this is already the most played game online and generates just so much more action

Doyle is annoying, Phil is more interested in the Tv time and Daniel just talks too damn much and really played awful on almost every HSP season losing a ton..

Gus would certainly fit such a lineup, indeed, though he tends to tighten up and gets owned when he faces some good LAG players. I'd rather pick a sick guy such as Minieri instead (if he's not playing scared money).


PLO is certainly more fun due to the bigger action, but not sure it'd really fit a TV show... Variance is also bigger than in NLHE.

Daniel got some set up/tough beats in the first HSP seasons (vs Gus and Lindgren) but got totally pwned by the internet players in the recent seasons...

It's amazing that Doyle has been a winner from all HSP seasons so far, playing his weak passive game... :zzz: Ok, big papa can read, I'll give him that... :o

SwiSha
06-11-2009, 11:20 PM
Gus would certainly fit such a lineup, indeed, though he tends to tighten up and gets owned when he faces some good LAG players. I'd rather pick a sick guy such as Minieri instead (if he's not playing scared money).


PLO is certainly more fun due to the bigger action, but not sure it'd really fit a TV show... Variance is also bigger than in NLHE.

Daniel got some set up/tough beats in the first HSP seasons (vs Gus and Lindgren) but got totally pwned by the internet players in the recent seasons...

It's amazing that Doyle has been a winner from all HSP seasons so far, playing his weak passive game... :zzz: Ok, big papa can read, I'll give him that... :o

Minieri is a sick guy true that, but just like you mentioned you cant play scared money against these guys

they actually played PLO in the televised Aussie Millions Cash game show and HU between Dwan and Antonius, I think it went pretty good

Negranus had a lot of bad beats in the first 2 seasons thats true, but his constant talk and i am so funny attitude didnt help him at all the last 2 seasons where just got owned( his talk and bad play against Benyamines quads in particular)

Brunson is just so damn boring, tight and complains as much as anyone at the table... really annoys me

SwiSha
06-14-2009, 08:59 AM
Phil Ivey wins Bracelet number 2 this year!!!!!!!

easily won couple of mills on sidebets yet again

G O A T

bokehlicious
06-19-2009, 03:37 PM
Phil Ivey wins Bracelet number 2 this year!!!!!!!

easily won couple of mills on sidebets yet again

G O A T

Well, Ivey is great, no doubt, but if all it took was winning most bracelets to claim who's GOAT, then I guess Hellmuth woud be it :o

Ivey played and still plays a shitload of WSOP events every year, that surely increases the odds to win some bracelets... Most of the internet young guns don't bother with tournaments, still crush those " WSOP legends" any time they sit at the same nosebleed table...

What's impressive with Ivey is that he manages to be great at both, cash games and tournaments, even though he's not the best at either. And he owns at most games (very useful when you sit at juicy Bobby's room where they play mixed games).

SwiSha
06-20-2009, 10:09 AM
by no means do i define Iveys greatness by winning bracelets, that GOAT statement is beyond the WSOP,actually i dont rate the WSOP too much, Ivey wouldnt even be motivated enough to play the entire WSOP without his sidebet action

I agree about his versatility, he can do it all, kill in cash games and win every tournament of every form out there

the thing that impresses me the most about him, that over a time he gets a read on every player out there, and once that happens there is no stopping him...

bokehlicious
07-31-2009, 01:20 PM
:( PA getting owned by Durrr lately on their HU4rolls challenge :( he was up 4M$ in April and now he's short of 500k$... This Durrr is such an animal :o

Oh, and good for poker that Ivey made the WSOP ME final table, even though he's short stack and has close to no chance to win it, it will be good for the poker image anyway.

out_here_grindin
11-06-2009, 09:26 PM
Alright the November Nine play the final table tommorrow. It will come on TV Tuesday so I will remain spoiler free until then.

Here the table with chip counts:
1. Darvin Moon 59,770,000
2. Eric Buchman 36,300,000
3. Steven Begleiter 28,195,000
4. Jeff Shulman 20,510,000
5. Joseph Cada 13,620,000
6. Kevin Schaffel 13,080,000
7. Antoine Saout 10,200,000
8. Phil Ivey 10,100,000
9. James Akenhead 5,760,000

Can superstar Phil Ivey take this? Can Darvin Moon take a hold of the table with the big stack or will he pull a Philip Hilm of 2007 and go from chip leader to 1st out the door? Can established pro Jeff Shulman win it?

out_here_grindin
11-15-2009, 10:14 PM
I am very disapointed with the winner Joe Cada. ESPN's coverage was good and they showed a lot of good hands. But once Ivey went out in 7th the whole broadcast turned into all in wars. Cada got lucky so many times. He should have went out in 6th after pushing with 3s against Shulman's Jacks. Cada was probably one of the worst players at that table and yet he walks away with the title.

This goes to show why a pro will not win anytime soon unless they change their approach. Both Ivey and Shulman played extremely conservative and they waited too long. Like Cunningham in 2006. The pros know they are the best at the table but they pride themselves too much on that and they do not play aggressively like the others do.

In 2004: Fossilman impressed with his domination of the table
In 2005: Hachem bided his time and went from the bottom to top impressively
In 2006: Gold produced probably the most impressive performance. His chip stack just continued to swell and he never had a misstep at the final table.
In 2007: Yang started 2nd to last on chips and got chips early. Then grabbed the table by the straps and dominated with aggresive play. Plus he completely owned Hilm who went into the table as the chip leader.
In 2008: Eastgate played tight for a long time and waited till the table was down to 5 to start making his move.

In 2009: Cada was not anywhere near the best. He made a lot of bad decisions and got lucky.

Ivey and Shulman were the best at the table, but they played to tightly to win. The player who played the best at this year's table was Sauot. Sauot played very well, making good reads after staring from the bottom. He also bluffed Ivey off of a hand in there. He got a sucker punch from Cada when 3 were left that ultimately was his crippling blow. Darvin Moon also played pretty poorly. Making way too many pre flop pushes. Steve Begleiter deserves and honorable mention as well, he played well too.

But I guess this is qhat TV does. The amount of hands shown was very few compared to the very many played. From what they showed me Cada should not have won.

bokehlicious
11-16-2009, 09:59 AM
WSOP tournies are "LOL donkament" jokes anyway... :angel: :zzz:

out_here_grindin
11-16-2009, 06:14 PM
why? They are very large tournaments that have a lot of money on the line

bokehlicious
11-17-2009, 06:49 AM
why? They are very large tournaments that have a lot of money on the line

There's (almost) only journeymen winning those tournies with such huge fields... Luck is way too much a factor, the best poker players make money in ring games and play tournies more for fun.

out_here_grindin
11-17-2009, 02:46 PM
I hear ya. But still making it to the final table, you had to have some luck but you always had to play some seriously good poker.

"Amateurs don't realize how much skill is involved and pros forget how much luck is involved."

bokehlicious
11-17-2009, 03:24 PM
I hear ya. But still making it to the final table, you had to have some luck but you always had to play some seriously good poker.


There have been some main event winners that just couldn't play the game... Take a Moneymaker for instance, pretty sure any random fish/sucker would have done just as well as him running that hot the whole tourney...




"Amateurs don't realize how much skill is involved and pros forget how much luck is involved."

That is a good (and true) quote :)

out_here_grindin
11-17-2009, 11:53 PM
There have been some main event winners that just couldn't play the game... Take a Moneymaker for instance, pretty sure any random fish/sucker would have done just as well as him running that hot the whole tourney...



That's true. Moneymaker,Varkonyi,Gold and Yang are all pretty poor players now.

Hachem,Fossilman and Eastgate have proved themselves as serious players lately.

Like I said the best player dosne't always win. This year's final table the best player was Saout(based on their performance at the table). I also think Demidov(2008 runenr up) and Kravchenko(2007 4th) are seriously good players.

Also everyone needs to perish the Ivey is the geratest of all time talk. He still has some work to do to achieve that title.

Also Layne Flack and John Juanda are severely underrated players.

bokehlicious
11-18-2009, 03:18 PM
Saout is actually a journeyman, I think he took on poker only 2 years ago, playing a few hours a week online, just like millions of kids...

As for Ivey, he's definitely amongst the greatest, you can't make that much cash on pure luck... and every fellow pro praise him for a reason...

out_here_grindin
07-17-2010, 01:57 PM
okay, we are down to the final 3 tables of the maine event. Joseph Cheong is the chup leader. The only big name left in Michael Mizrachi.

SwiSha
07-19-2010, 08:06 PM
i was shocked when i saw Michael Skender play and finish at pos 31

I used to play against him bball here in Germany, crazy !!!!!!

allpro
07-19-2010, 08:43 PM
high stakes poker on gsn is pretty riveting stuff. durrrr....lol, the kids got massive cojones. loved watching ivey humiliate hellmuth.

SwiSha
07-20-2010, 12:39 PM
always the same story with hellmuth, poker media whore.... i loved how he said he is not afraid of ivey and on a good day will **** him for a million or 2 lol...... he is always so unlucky against Ivey too lmfao ...priceless poker brat

Tennisleader01
07-21-2010, 05:29 PM
I started playing in freerolls tournaments recently. For now I haven't won too much but I am trying hard. There are thousands of players in each freeroll tourney, and some of them have far more experience than me. I like playing in Horse tournaments, because I know a little about each poker variation and I think it is a good way to improve my analitical and strategical skills. :)

I also read some famous poker players blogs such as Daniel Negreanu or the legendary Doyle Brunson when I have some spare time. They offer plenty of interesting advice concerning how to play the hands in poker. :cool:

out_here_grindin
09-29-2010, 09:50 PM
I have been watching the main event episodes. Has anyone else? After seeing members of the november 9 playing I am pulling for Mizrachi and Candio at the final table.

bokehlicious
09-30-2010, 09:43 AM
Mizrachi is the only worthy player at the final table... WSOP ME = donkament :o

Ben.
09-30-2010, 12:22 PM
I haven't followed the WSOP this year for the first time in a while since I stopped playing poker earlier this year. Is it the Grinder at the final table or one of his brothers? The Grinder won a bracelet this year too right? Good world series for him if he has made the ME final table too.

Hansen finally won a bracelet in the heads up event at the WSOPE a few days ago, beating Ivey along the way. Phil Laak won the first event there for his first bracelet and Ivey made a deep run in the ME along with Blom, better known as the guy everyone thinks is Isildur1 lol. Looking forward to the TV coverage.

bokehlicious
09-30-2010, 01:33 PM
Is it the Grinder at the final table or one of his brothers?

It was Michael "the grinder", indeed...

out_here_grindin
10-01-2010, 02:15 AM
Mizrachi is the only worthy player at the final table... WSOP ME = donkament :o

Some of the winners have turned into pretty good players. Like Raymer and Hachem. Moneymaker,Yang and Gold suck though.

Eastgate and Cada have bright futures, although I prefer Eastgate.

It will be interesting to see how the Grinder plays it. He is 7th in chips to start it off. Last year Ivey was way too conservative at the final table and let himself be picked apart.

bokehlicious
10-01-2010, 06:41 AM
It will be interesting to see how the Grinder plays it. He is 7th in chips to start it off. Last year Ivey was way too conservative at the final table and let himself be picked apart.

Those high stakes players have a hard time to be too arsed for tournaments, even WSOPs, last year Ivey was clearly bored at the final table, I mean a 10k$ buy-in is merely a blind at his normal stakes...

out_here_grindin
10-28-2010, 08:21 PM
The last episode showed the perfect example of the donkey-ness of this main event.

19 players left and Candio raises with 5/7. Cheong looks down upon pocket rockets. He just smooth calls.

Flop: 5/6/6

Cheong bets about 1.5m. Candio raises to 4.3m. Then of course Cheong goes all in because that's all players know how to do these days. And like an sbsolute idiot Candio calls. He had a large stack no need to risk all these chips.

Turn: 8

River: 4. Candio hits the straight and starts yelling like a bafoon. Terrible deicison rewarded by giving him the chip lead.:o

bokehlicious
10-28-2010, 08:25 PM
Donkey play at its finest... but not surprising in the main event.

FormerRafaFan
10-29-2010, 04:02 PM
I would be joining you guys, but I can't play poker here, well, not with money anyway.. Poker is ILLEGAL in Norway. It sucks, and it's stupid imo. But it's our stupid government trying to prevent a gambling addiction, so they ban it instead. Just like they try to prevent people from becoming alcoholics by demaning earlier closing times at bars, sky high alcohol fees and preventing people from buying alcohol after 8 pm weekdays, after 6 pm saturdays, and not at all on sundays (since all supermarkets are closed). LMAO

And yes, we do have a "nazi government" other illegal things are cigarettes/tobacco adverts, alcohol adverts and political adverts.

bokehlicious
11-07-2011, 12:30 PM
Quite an interesting November Nine WSOP main event final table for once... Some young aggressive players to make it interesting. WSOP player of the year Lamb obviously got lucky but you got to love his style, impressive how he could build up his stack without having to go to showdown. Chipleader Heinz is solid so far and his aggressive play gets him good action.

Wishing for a Lamb-Heinz headsup now, with deep enough stacks there should be some good action.

Also, nice coverage by ESPN, that 15 minutes delay with hole cards is really more entertaining for the casual fan, wish they covered more events that way.

fast_clay
11-07-2011, 01:25 PM
lamb got lucky indeed hitting a nasty river for o'dea...

bokehlicious
11-07-2011, 02:06 PM
Was a tough call from O'Dea with A9off... He was at best 60/40 versus the bottom of Lamb's shoving range (well, or a 70/30 vs an ace rag) and still had enough chips to wait for a better spot imo...

O'Dea had a hard time to recover from the hand vs Heinz (aq<qq) where he lost most of his stack, 2 barrel bluff was thin even against such an aggro guy...

fast_clay
11-07-2011, 02:41 PM
Was a tough call from O'Dea with A9off... He was at best 60/40 versus the bottom of Lamb's shoving range (well, or a 70/30 vs an ace rag) and still had enough chips to wait for a better spot imo...

O'Dea had a hard time to recover from the hand vs Heinz (aq<qq) where he lost most of his stack, 2 barrel bluff was thin even against such an aggro guy...

hmmm yeah, he'd probably be pretty 'whatever' about that lamb hand compared with the blow heinz landed seeing how strong he came into the final table... most in the tennis scene here know o'dea reasonably well as he's a better than handy club level player, his team playing in the 6 team premier league a few years back in which lower level pros have a knock in...

out_here_grindin
11-07-2011, 03:06 PM
I have not followed it as much this year but this is certainly better than the Duhamel and Cheong shove fest of last year

<Eve>
11-09-2011, 07:33 AM
:worship: HEINZ :worship:

Kat_YYZ
11-10-2011, 12:13 AM
rats, I fell asleep and missed the end :(

bokehlicious
11-10-2011, 09:24 AM
The best player won.

Horrible shove by Lamb with KJo on hand 1. Of course he had tons of fold equity, but Staszko was nitty so bad spot imo.

Interesting headsup, few mistakes by both players (apart from the huge mistake by Staszko raise folding his nut flush draw when he had a huge chiplead).

Negreanu tweeted that he spotted tons of tells from both players, will have to rewind some of it to check that.

bokehlicious
07-04-2012, 01:14 PM
So the Big One for One Drop ended last night. One Million Dollars buy-in tournament, first time at the WSOP.

Congrats to Esfandiari who shipped 18+ millions for the win. Hellmuth finished 4th, which again proves that he's a hell of a tournament player.

http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/2012-world-series-of-poker/event-55-the-big-one-for-one-drop-no-limit-hold-em/

out_here_grindin
07-04-2012, 02:10 PM
Hellmuth gets flack for his attitude and arrogance but he really is a great player.

Esfandiari played great in the end though. Glad he won the big one.

bokehlicious
10-05-2012, 08:50 AM
Hellmuth shipped the WSOPE main event. 13th bracelet. Definitely the tournament GOAT. Congrats poker brat.

Gagsquet
10-05-2012, 09:33 AM
much more lucky than skilled imo.

bokehlicious
10-05-2012, 09:38 AM
You can't win 13 bracelets on luck. Other players have a hard time adapting to his unorthodox style imo.

Gagsquet
10-05-2012, 09:56 AM
He is a good tournament player I admit. Online, he would get crushed (on cash).

bokehlicious
10-05-2012, 11:19 AM
Hellmuth is not good at cash game. I don't think he ever plays online poker, and the cash game world is owned by online sharks. Anytime he tried to play at the high stakes games he got crushed.

Ben.
10-05-2012, 12:46 PM
Phil :worship:

Kolya
10-06-2012, 03:47 AM
Wow! Only man to win the WSOP main event on both sides of the Atlantic.

Even if you don't like Hellmuth Jr. you got to give credit when credit is due.

Kat_YYZ
10-31-2012, 07:46 PM
Full Tilt Poker is returning:
http://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-room-news/full-tilt-poker-opens-play-money-players-can-view-balances-31-10/

I'll see if my account still works tonight.