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Federer on clay

Teemuh
04-13-2004, 12:59 AM
Okay. So now the clay bit has started. How do we see Roger faring? Think he's working on the topspin backhand? Also it will be interesting to see if he's developed the patience to deal with the grinders. I read somewhere he would lose matches out of sheer boredom.

yanchr
04-13-2004, 05:29 AM
I have no idea how Roger will be doing on clay after the amazing success since TMC. I'll just wait and see. The bottomline is that he doesn't lose 1rd in Roland Garros again ;) But I don't think he will go into a match with that bored attitude he once had any more.

Alessia
04-13-2004, 09:50 AM
Looking forward to the clay season!

If Roger want to prove that he is a all-court player, he should get better result in Roland Garros! And I think if he can manage to, he would give a heavy blow on Ferrero and other players good at clay court.

Billabong
04-13-2004, 12:51 PM
I think Rogi will be ready:)!

GOOOOOO FED:D!!!!!!!!!!!!

novanora
04-13-2004, 01:38 PM
There has been quite a long time since last clay season. A lot of things have happened in such a period of time. We all see that Roger has advanced much in less than a year, especially his mentality. He has overcome many difficulties which he had never managed to do before, such as ugly draws, unfair match schedule, pressure from the spectators of hosting countrys. He has defeated Lleyton, David and Tim who were thought as his "unbeatable rivals" one by one. And now clay season is another mountain for him to climb over, of course, Roland Garros is one of the best chances to approve his excellence and talent. I should admit that many guys like JC Ferrero and Guillermo Coria are good at clay. But, just as Andy Roddick is good at hard court, Roger beated him and proved that he could do better than anyone in the hard court, even if someone has a big serving. Roger has good baseline and excellent steps, even his speed is not bad. As people mentioned he is a 'all-court' player, one or two of his advantages won't be very evident. What he lacks now is only a chance that can prove his ability to conquer any kingdom.

Dirk
04-13-2004, 01:56 PM
YES NINJA MUST TAKE THE MUSKETEER CUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/otn/blobs/multi.gif

WyveN
04-13-2004, 02:58 PM
Will be very interesting and certainly a new challange for Roger. Must say from all that I heard he was very comfortable on clay against Romania in DC so I have high hopes. Good luck to him.

tangerine_dream
04-13-2004, 03:22 PM
My goal for Roger on clay is the same as my goal for Andy on clay: just get past the first round! :lol: ;)

Dirk
04-13-2004, 04:09 PM
Your first goal for Andy should be make the semis of a clay master.

tangerine_dream
04-13-2004, 05:02 PM
I'll worry about future rounds only when he finally gets past the first round. ;)

rue
04-13-2004, 05:03 PM
I think that Roger is going to do quite well during the clay season, now that he is the world number one, he has got so much confidence within him that will definitely take him far even if he will be challenged on clay with the likes of Juan Carlos Ferrero and Guillermo Coria.

vene
04-13-2004, 06:02 PM
I really have great hopes for Rogi- I think he will even get as far as the finals of RG (hopefully win)

Raquel
04-13-2004, 07:15 PM
I thought Roger played very well in Rome last year. The final against Mantilla was strange match though, Roger hit a few too many unforced errors when it really mattered. Roland Garros was a disaster, a lot of unforced errors that day, but Roger is a different player these days. He will have to ba a little bit more patient than usual on clay, but I think he can have a great season :)

ste
04-13-2004, 08:21 PM
We all know that he advanced a lot in the last few months and I think he's so confident and happy at the moment that he takes all a bit easier than last year... he proved that he can win slams - so he will go to the french open with less pressure than in 2003!!!

Let''s see how he's doing!!!

Good LUCK Roger!!!! :worship:

LCeh
04-13-2004, 08:31 PM
Very nice Avatar, ste. I think Roger would do much better this year. I hope he will at least win 1 of the 3 events he is playing, but as long as he improves, that's all I care about.

Teemuh
04-14-2004, 12:04 AM
If he gets himself in the late stages of the French, I don't hate his chances:) Of course, should he actually win the French the pressure going into Wimbledon with the whole Grand Slam thing will be incredible.

Alessia
04-14-2004, 12:27 AM
I'll worry about future rounds only when he finally gets past the first round. ;)

For Andy, I agree! :worship:

yanchr
04-14-2004, 07:18 AM
If he gets himself in the late stages of the French, I don't hate his chances:) Of course, should he actually win the French the pressure going into Wimbledon with the whole Grand Slam thing will be incredible.
Should he actually win FO, I doubt he would win Wimbledon

rogicomel
04-14-2004, 07:36 AM
Should he actually win FO, I doubt he would win Wimbledon


I disagree. He is the only man capable of doing the Borg!

novanora
04-14-2004, 01:06 PM
Should he actually win FO, I doubt he would win Wimbledon
Actually I won't be surprised even if he managed both two, coz Roger has done many incredible things before.

yanchr
04-14-2004, 03:36 PM
I suppose I should add a few words in my last post, if is just if or there is actually no if
Nooooo let's not talk about it now...

Dirk
04-14-2004, 03:58 PM
yeah let's not put too much pressure on Roger. Let our Ninja go about his missions. ;)

Alessia
04-15-2004, 12:28 AM
Last night I have talked with yanchr by SMS.

At first we hope that Rogi could win one title of the three TMS on the clay.

Then we wants the Monte Carlo because the champion in Monte Carlo will have good result at French Open and because we don't want that someone ...

After that I hope that Rogi could win at Rome as the city means something to me.

Also the Hamburg since Rogi has win two years before...

hehe

Dirk
04-15-2004, 01:54 AM
ALL THREE NINJA WILL WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/otn/blobs/multi.gif

Fedex
04-15-2004, 03:33 AM
ALL THREE NINJA WILL WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/otn/blobs/multi.gif
That's the Spirit!!! :bounce: :banana: Cool smilie there, Dirk. (color changing 1)

lilianspring
04-15-2004, 04:53 AM
I hope that Rogi could win at Rome as the city means something to me.
hehe
The same here.:wavey:
Because Rome is special to me too.

rue
04-15-2004, 05:11 AM
I hope that he does do well on clay this season, especially at the French open and if he does try to at least to win one of the Masters Series titles, that will really give him a major boost of confidence.

:dance: :wavey:

yanchr
04-15-2004, 07:03 AM
Last night I have talked with yanchr by SMS.

At first we hope that Rogi could win one title of the three TMS on the clay.

Then we wants the Monte Carlo because the champion in Monte Carlo will have good result at French Open and because we don't want that someone ...

After that I hope that Rogi could win at Rome as the city means something to me.

Also the Hamburg since Rogi has win two years before...

hehe
:eek: :eek: :eek: hey, it's a secret between us... :eek: :eek:
Actually we even talked more than that... ;)
Roger should feel hopeless when he heard this :bolt: :lol:

Dirk
04-15-2004, 08:06 AM
Roger is amazing and will win many titles. HE IS GREAT ON CLAY!!!!!!! He can all the clay masters really since he is only playing them. Roger will go for it.

lsy
04-15-2004, 08:42 AM
I just can't wait to see him play on clay!!! And I'm gonna get good coverage for Monte Carlo too!!!

Have a great clay season Rogi!!!

yanchr
04-15-2004, 08:42 AM
Dirk, you are hopeless in saying so ;)

Fedex
04-15-2004, 08:49 AM
I just can't wait to see him play on clay!!! And I'm gonna get good coverage for Monte Carlo too!!!

Have a great clay season Rogi!!!
You get coverage?? As far as i know, ESPN is'nt covering the clay Masters :(

lsy
04-15-2004, 08:54 AM
You get coverage?? As far as i know, ESPN is'nt covering the clay Masters :(

Yes I do and it's LIVE from 1st round onwards :)

I CAN'T WAIT!!!

WyveN
04-15-2004, 10:37 AM
Should he actually win FO, I doubt he would win Wimbledon

I agree, I think part of the reason he played flawlessly on grass last year was because he lost in the 1st round at RG and had plenty of time to practice on grass.

If he wins the FO and then goes from gruelling baseline rallies to serve-volley tennis on grass in a matter of weeks to win Wimbledon I will be stunned ;)

mrpenguin
04-15-2004, 12:51 PM
I don't expect much from Roger at RG, and I hope he LOSES in early rounds
so that he'll be REALLY hungry for Wimbledon

lsy
04-15-2004, 01:39 PM
I agree, I think part of the reason he played flawlessly on grass last year was because he lost in the 1st round at RG and had plenty of time to practice on grass.

If he wins the FO and then goes from gruelling baseline rallies to serve-volley tennis on grass in a matter of weeks to win Wimbledon I will be stunned ;)

I thought he had stunned us for quite a few times already so far since last year, well at least for me ;)

I actually rather he does well in RG this year, not expecting him to win it but at least go much deeper this time.

mrpenguin
04-15-2004, 01:54 PM
Actually , Roger could emulate Guga's game ;-) and try to win it

Guga is not your average MOJO-Player (fitness, head-strong, intense) a la Hewitt/Agassi/Nalbandian, so that makes me think it's quite possible for Roger to
actually win RG at least once

novanora
04-15-2004, 02:06 PM
Last night I have talked with yanchr by SMS.

At first we hope that Rogi could win one title of the three TMS on the clay.

Then we wants the Monte Carlo because the champion in Monte Carlo will have good result at French Open and because we don't want that someone ...

After that I hope that Rogi could win at Rome as the city means something to me.

Also the Hamburg since Rogi has win two years before...

hehe
Wow, you two guys demand much more even than me! Anyway, waiting his new achievement is a kind of happiness. First, let's expect his MC!! Can't it a good starting of Roger's clay season? Oh, maybe I shouldn't talk it anymore and just wait for it.
BTW, I think I have guessed out who the so-called "someone" is ;)

yanchr
04-15-2004, 03:18 PM
I actually rather he does well in RG this year, not expecting him to win it but at least go much deeper this time.
I'd rather he defend his Wimbly than do well in RG at the cost of his Wimbly title. Of course it doesn't mean he should lose 1st rd in RG again.

vene
04-15-2004, 04:41 PM
You get coverage?? As far as i know, ESPN is'nt covering the clay Masters :(
TTC is covering Monte carlo. If you are interested I could record some matches for you

Dirk
04-16-2004, 05:58 AM
I disagree. Roger could withdraw from Halle and rest and have extra time to practice at wimbly. He might not be tired and rest up for a few days and have lite practices on grass and do well at Halle. I don't think I buy this tireness. Grass isn't a punishing surface. As for now I'm all about the clay season. I think Roger is very very strong and will do wonders on the stuff.

Billabong
04-16-2004, 11:59 AM
I'll also have coverage from Monte Carlo:)!
GOOOOOO FED:D!!!!!!!!!

jtipson
04-16-2004, 12:06 PM
Eurosport are saying Roger's pulled out of Monte Carlo :(
Can't find any further details yet.

lsy
04-16-2004, 12:08 PM
oh no...I just read that from Rogi's site but I didn't see it on the eurosports site?

Where did you read that jtipson?

jtipson
04-16-2004, 12:29 PM
If you go to www.eurosport.com directly (and not the tennis section), you should get a pop-up with the latest news in. It's in the pop-up.

Strange that there's no further details even now though, several hours after it first appeared. I guess we'll just have to wait a bit longer.

Shame though, I was really looking forward to him getting to grips with Monte Carlo this year!

WyveN
04-16-2004, 12:33 PM
any reason?
hopefully just fatigue

lsy
04-16-2004, 12:38 PM
I hope so...please no injuries or anything :(

Thanks jtipson.

yanchr
04-16-2004, 12:48 PM
Oh Nooooooooooo it's not true...:sad:

Yeah hope not for injury just want to get more time to recover from the DC loss or exhaustion

lilianspring
04-16-2004, 01:10 PM
Tennis - Roger Federer wird nächste Woche in Monte Carlo beim dritten Masters Series des Jahres nicht an den Start gehen. Der Weltranglistenerste will sich nach den anstrengenden letzten Wochen mit den Destinationen Dubai, Indian Wells, Miami und Lausanne sowie gesundheitlichen Problemen zuerst richtig erholen. Statt «kalt» das erste Sandturnier zu bestreiten, bereitet er sich auf die Periode mit Rom, Hamburg und Roland Garros vor. (bc.)

And directly translated with BabelFish : "Roger Federer will not go next week into Monte Carlo with third masters the Series of the yearly to the start. World rank list first Dubai, Indian Wells, Miami and Lausanne as well as health problems wants to recover correct first after the arduous last weeks with the destinationen. Instead of denying "coldly" the first sand tournament, it prepares on the period with Rome, Hamburg and Roland Garros forwards (bc.)

The above info is from Rogi`s official website.
I am so sorry for it.

novanora
04-16-2004, 05:35 PM
Poor Roger! I hate injury and some other health problem as well! MC will be much poorer without Roger....Just hope he can recover soon.

Billabong
04-16-2004, 09:14 PM
Get well soon Rogi :sad:!

mrpenguin
04-17-2004, 02:49 PM
No worries, he prefers to skip a tournament and be READY for
the clay season, instead of rushing in a half-a$$ed way

Smart move from Roger, as always

novanora
04-17-2004, 07:42 PM
yeah, you are right, mrpenguin. I can also think the withdrawl as Roger's smart choice. But for his fans, we really want to appreciate his more and more live games. We hunt for his playing!

tangerine_dream
04-18-2004, 03:48 AM
vene, you have TTC? I'm soooo jealous. :fiery:

Looks like I'm going to be spending more money trying to track down videos of these matches from europe. Roger's getting to be an expensive habit. :o

LCeh
04-18-2004, 04:02 AM
His matches are worth the money though... ;) :D

vene
04-18-2004, 06:00 AM
vene, you have TTC? I'm soooo jealous. :fiery:

Looks like I'm going to be spending more money trying to track down videos of these matches from europe. Roger's getting to be an expensive habit. :o
Yep, quite expensive, I got Voom just to watch Roger, now he pulls out of Monte Carlo. Hopefully he will be at Rome/Hamburg. I can be very nice ;) and record Roger's matches and mail them out for free within N America.

calimero
04-18-2004, 11:30 PM
GO ROGI!!!!
I hope you will be healthy again...
AND KILL ALL THA GUYS!
GOOO!!!!
grtz avena

Alessia
04-19-2004, 12:24 AM
yeah, you are right, mrpenguin. I can also think the withdrawl as Roger's smart choice. But for his fans, we really want to appreciate his more and more live games. We hunt for his playing!

That's true!

Anyway I will see the MC and find out the biggest opponent of Rogi on the clay. :devil:

yanchr
04-19-2004, 03:03 AM
Anyway I will see the MC and find out the biggest opponent of Rogi on the clay. :devil:
and give out our share of contribution... :devil:

Alessia
04-19-2004, 08:18 AM
and give out our share of contribution... :devil:

Hei! You should keep it in secret so as that the method is effective :devil:

novanora
04-19-2004, 06:20 PM
and give out our share of contribution...
Hei! You should keep it in secret so as that the method is effective
Then, it seems it is the only thing that you two guys can do these days until Rogi returns...I think Rogi is much smarter than u to find out his main opponent of the clay. But, please still enjoy your MC matches, and, with the relaxed feeling;)

Alessia
04-20-2004, 08:20 AM
Yes. I don't know how to handle the days when Rogi and Andy are off court ...

Billabong
04-22-2004, 11:31 PM
I can't wait to see Fed on clay:D!!!

GOOOO FED:D!!!!!

Eden
11-28-2006, 08:07 PM
*bump*

As I consider myself only as a tennis follower and not a real expert I leave this question to those who know of what they speak ;) . How do you judge Rogers improvements on clay in the last years? What do you think of his opponents on clay? When we look back to his achievements we see what kind of players he was able to beat on his so-called weakest surface. This year he was the only player who really challenged the best claycourt player of the last 2 years. What has happened to the other claycourt specialists? Will someone like Moya, Gaudio or Ferrero ever be strong on clay again and challenge Roger and Rafa on clay?
Everyone talks about that Roger has to win against Nadal on clay in order to win the big trophy which is still left in his collection, but don't you think it is premature to say that they will meet in the final of RG next year? Both have to beat 6 other players to reach the final. Do you see someone out there who will be able to challenge Roger and Rafa on clay apart from each other or are both just to strong, especially in a Best of 5 match?

Feel free to discuss :)

RogiFan88
11-29-2006, 04:24 PM
*bump*

As I consider myself only as a tennis follower and not a real expert I leave this question to those who know of what they speak ;) . How do you judge Rogers improvements on clay in the last years? What do you think of his opponents on clay? When we look back to his achievements we see what kind of players he was able to beat on his so-called weakest surface. This year he was the only player who really challenged the best claycourt player of the last 2 years. What has happened to the other claycourt specialists? Will someone like Moya, Gaudio or Ferrero ever be strong on clay again and challenge Roger and Rafa on clay?
Everyone talks about that Roger has to win against Nadal on clay in order to win the big trophy which is still left in his collection, but don't you think it is premature to say that they will meet in the final of RG next year? Both have to beat 6 other players to reach the final. Do you see someone out there who will be able to challenge Roger and Rafa on clay apart from each other or are both just to strong, especially in a Best of 5 match?

Feel free to discuss :)

this is one BIG BUMP!! :p

Moya, too old and not so motivated, so forget him for the big tourneys like MC, ROMA, HAMBURG or RG. Ferrero, altho he's started training for 2007, a good sign, needs big motivation at this time of his career, not having won a title for over 3 yrs -- missed two good yrs due to chicken pox and injuries -- unless sth weird happens, he won't challenge, unfortunately, but I w love to see him do sth HUGE on clay, preferably vs. a guy he's only beaten once [Cincy06 QF]. Gaudio, 3-3 vs. Rafa on clay -- I am dying for him to make a reappearance, on any surface, but esp on clay next yr -- he needs belief more than anything because he is one of the best on clay and I also want him to do well in 2007.

I am looking for Gasquet to make a big move on clay next yr, and vs. Rafa.

Forgot Coria, who knows about him? He's seeing a psychologist now... he was needed this year in the clay season. Kolya... maybe, he has made the SF before...

As for Rogi, well, it's time for him to complete his slam... he s have won this yr or s have changed his attitude towards RG in 04 and made a run for it... [and that was pre-Rafaelite era]. With or without Rafa, as he said, he must try to win RG07. And I agree; I don't care who he beats, just win it and then he can focus on other goals for once. And yes, who knows if either he or Rafa will even make the final of RG07.

Here's hoping... ;)

CmonAussie
11-29-2006, 04:54 PM
The top 4-players on clay in 2007 will again be:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Robredo
4. Davydenko

#*#..Hope to see Gaudio back to his best but I`m not confident><.

Fedex
11-30-2006, 01:03 AM
The top 4-players on clay in 2007 will again be:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Robredo
4. Davydenko

#*#..Hope to see Gaudio back to his best but I`m not confident><.
You're really going out on a limb there with those predictions. ;)

hacker21021
11-30-2006, 01:06 AM
i would have to agree with fedex here.. other than federer and nadal, the others are questionable on clay. Clay can take a lot of players out of their game, and puts a toll on the body. Federer will most likely win the french this year, and if he does not, i dont predict him ever wining it. He is getting older, and the French is all about how physical a player is. Federer is getting older, and needs to take the title ASAP

SUKTUEN
11-30-2006, 05:28 AM
Robredo is good in clay? I never watch his clay match.

Oriental_Rain
11-30-2006, 10:07 AM
dont we think its a lil early to tell?
and dont forget abt Marat, hes dangerous in any given day and courts

Roger The Great
11-30-2006, 02:15 PM
i would have to agree with fedex here.. other than federer and nadal, the others are questionable on clay. Clay can take a lot of players out of their game, and puts a toll on the body. Federer will most likely win the french this year, and if he does not, i dont predict him ever wining it. He is getting older, and the French is all about how physical a player is. Federer is getting older, and needs to take the title ASAP

You never know. I think Agassi was 29 when he finally won it. But I agree that if he doesn't win it in the next couple years, he probably never will. :sad:

RogiFan88
11-30-2006, 02:26 PM
Robredo is good in clay? I never watch his clay match.

Suktuen, Tommy's titles are all on clay: Sopot, Barcelona, Hamburg, Bastad. But he's not bad on the faster surfaces either, exc on grass. ;)

SUKTUEN
11-30-2006, 03:18 PM
Really ? if Roger win RG in 29 ~it is also prefect!;)

stebs
12-01-2006, 06:50 AM
I think Roger probably has 2 more tries to win it, maybe 3. I hope he will.

SUKTUEN
12-01-2006, 02:08 PM
I also don't care the clay TMS ~Win RG is OK.

Eden
12-04-2006, 06:58 PM
I also don't care the clay TMS ~Win RG is OK.

I'm sure Roger would be contented with the last one as well ;)

Eden
12-04-2006, 07:49 PM
this is one BIG BUMP!! :p

I was in the mood for it ;)


As for Rogi, well, it's time for him to complete his slam... he s have won this yr or s have changed his attitude towards RG in 04 and made a run for it... [and that was pre-Rafaelite era]. With or without Rafa, as he said, he must try to win RG07. And I agree; I don't care who he beats, just win it and then he can focus on other goals for once. And yes, who knows if either he or Rafa will even make the final of RG07.
Here's hoping... ;)

Isn't it weird that Roger has competeted with so many great clay court players in the last years and except Nadal beat them all? Everyone says clay is Rogers weakest surface, but I think a lot of players of the tour would give anything for Rogis achievements on clay.

I think we all have seen this year how close Roger is to Nadal on clay, although he lost all their matches on this surface.

It will be interesting to see which players can bring a good form to the claycourt season and challenge Roger and Rafa.

SUKTUEN
12-05-2006, 12:26 PM
I'm sure Roger would be contented with the last one as well ;)

GO Roger!! Show we You are the BEST!!!!:D