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I smell masacre of seeded players in 2nd round

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 07:29 PM
Already out
- no. 8 J.Blake lost to Serra
- no 10 T. Hass lost to Falla
- no 17 Baghdatis lost to Del Potro
- no 18 L.Hewitt injury
- no 22 Hrbaty lost ot Llodra
- no 25 Safin lost to Lopez
- no 26 J.Melzer lost to Mathieu

and it will happen
- no. 11 Nalbadnian will lose to Spadea
- no. 14 Berdych will lose to Clement
- no. 19 Ferrero will lose to Canas



:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

Adler
03-23-2007, 07:35 PM
That means Top 10 is standing strong, so it's not such a big thing for me

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 07:38 PM
Top10 has to easy players in first rounds to lose many matches

jazar
03-23-2007, 07:44 PM
i can see those results happening easily

Marek.
03-23-2007, 07:46 PM
Gonazalez just won the first set:p

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 07:46 PM
yeah :)
but Youzhny and Gonzalez come out of trouble by now :(

but no. 22 Hrbaty is going to lose - BTW how the hell Hrbaty is in top30??:rolleyes:

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 07:47 PM
dammit this thread is reversing everything the other thread has worked so damn hard to make happen, mods delete.

Sofonda Cox
03-23-2007, 07:48 PM
as long as moron murray loses i dont care

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 07:49 PM
dammit this thread is reversing everything the other thread has worked so damn hard to make happen, mods delete.

:haha:

your sig - Spartans in the end lost to Persian Army when they faced each other, so :rolleyes:

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 07:49 PM
Gonazalez just won the first set:p

yeah I posted it when TOJO for serving for set and Youzhny was break down in second

scarecrows
03-23-2007, 07:51 PM
yeah I posted it when TOJO for serving for set and Youzhny was break down in second

you basically jinxed all the unseeded players

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 07:55 PM
:haha:

your sig - Spartans in the end lost to Persian Army when they faced each other, so :rolleyes:

No they didn't we already had this discussion, I don't feel like searching for it.

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 08:00 PM
No they didn't we already had this discussion, I don't feel like searching for it.

yeah they did :) they had to block the path and they didn't so Persian army burned half of the Greece, they won in 479 but there weren't Spartans only 1/3 of Greek soldiers in final battle were Spartans so it is all wrong. When it mattered Spartans lost all of them died anyway the were victourious in moral way but it wasn't a factor in that times

anyway Roger as a Persian is good idea looking who much he loves allt hose Dubai and Doha tourney

scarecrows
03-23-2007, 08:00 PM
that's true, Spartan never lost
that's why piggy is far from being a spartan

scoobs
03-23-2007, 08:01 PM
as long as moron murray loses i dont care
Don't hold your breath.

Or do - I don't much care either way :)

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 08:02 PM
that's true, Spartan never lost
that's why piggy is far from being a spartan

Spartans lost many times but in the end they were victorious in moral and mental

some examples

- messenian wars
- Peloppnesian war
- battle of leuctra
- matinea battle

army of lovers crushed Spartans many times, simply because Theban lovers elite unit was no match in that times

Naide
03-23-2007, 08:03 PM
if nalby loses to spadea, then tennis is really dead

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 08:03 PM
Don't hold your breath.


I don't see Murray losing.

What about Baghdatis?

2moretogo
03-23-2007, 08:04 PM
Don't hold your breath.

Or do - I don't much care either way :)

:o lmfao.

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 08:09 PM
yeah they did :) they had to block the path and they didn't so Persian army burned half of the Greece, they won in 479 but there weren't Spartans only 1/3 of Greek soldiers in final battle were Spartans so it is all wrong. When it mattered Spartans lost all of them died anyway the were victourious in moral way but it wasn't a factor in that times

anyway Roger as a Persian is good idea looking who much he loves allt hose Dubai and Doha tourney

The peloponesian wars had a lot of ups and downs, but if you are talking about the fall of greece all civilizations fall so did rome and egypt it's inevitable.


I don't know particularly what you are talking about but the battle between Athens and sparta ended with


them "Facing starvation and disease from the prolonged siege, Athens surrendered in 404 BCE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/404_BCE), and her allies soon surrendered as well. The democrats at Samos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samos_Island), loyal to the bitter last, held on slightly longer, and were allowed to flee with their lives. The surrender stripped Athens of her walls, her fleet, and all of her overseas possessions. Corinth and Thebes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thebes%2C_Greece) demanded that Athens should be destroyed and all its citizens should be enslaved. However the Spartans announced their refusal to destroy a city that had done a good service at a time of greatest danger to Greece, and took Athens into their own system. Athens was "to have the same friends and enemies" as Sparta.
By doing so the victorious Spartans proved to be the most clement state that fought Athens and at the same time they turned to be her saviour, as neither Corinth nor Thebes at the time could challenge their decision."

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 08:11 PM
And didn't Phillip the Macedon take them both over?

scoobs
03-23-2007, 08:12 PM
I don't see Murray losing.

What about Baghdatis?
With Baghdatis these days, hard to tell. Some good tournaments, then he plays crap. I think he'll edge Del Potro this time around. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't.

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 08:13 PM
The peloponesian wars had a lot of ups and downs, but if you are talking about the fall of greece all civilizations fall so did rome and egypt it's inevitable.


I don't know particularly what you are talking about but the battle between Athens and sparta ended with


them "Facing starvation and disease from the prolonged siege, Athens surrendered in 404 BCE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/404_BCE), and her allies soon surrendered as well. The democrats at Samos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samos_Island), loyal to the bitter last, held on slightly longer, and were allowed to flee with their lives. The surrender stripped Athens of her walls, her fleet, and all of her overseas possessions. Corinth and Thebes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thebes%2C_Greece) demanded that Athens should be destroyed and all its citizens should be enslaved. However the Spartans announced their refusal to destroy a city that had done a good service at a time of greatest danger to Greece, and took Athens into their own system. Athens was "to have the same friends and enemies" as Sparta.
By doing so the victorious Spartans proved to be the most clement state that fought Athens and at the same time they turned to be her saviour, as neither Corinth nor Thebes at the time could challenge their decision."

talking baout pelopnesian wars , Sparta was losing many small battles on land but winning on sea and that was the key to beat Athenes
considering loses

some examples

- messenian wars
- battle of leuctra
- matinea battle

and from tactical point of view they lost the battle of Thermopyle , because Persian Army ramapge over whole Grecce throught that pass, even Athenes were evacuated to Salamina , but in mental way it was the biggest victory ever

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 08:14 PM
And didn't Phillip the Macedon take them both over?


yeah probably, like I said we've been through this before, all civs fall, it's the way of the world. Doesn't mean the spartans weren't accomplished in their military feats. Or at least as far as rafa is concerned. You could break apart anything in history.

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 08:14 PM
And didn't Phillip the Macedon take them both over?

no Sparta was neutral when Philip crushed Athens and Thebes

scoobs
03-23-2007, 08:14 PM
I would have thought the fall of the Byzantine civilisation was a much more revelant analogy :rolleyes:

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 08:17 PM
yeah probably, like I said we've been through this before, all civs fall, it's the way of the world. Doesn't mean the spartans weren't accomplished in their military feats. Or at least as far as rafa is concerned. You could break apart anything in history.

yeah but in wars against Thebes weren just fine example how Spartan army could be destroyed Thebes had superior soldiers especially The Sacred Band which was destroyed by Philip but even he cried over theirs body because every soldier was killed and gave their live to defend his lover

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 08:17 PM
I would have thought the fall of the Byzantine civilisation was a much more revelant analogy ::)

The sick man of Europe. That's more my milieu, anyhow.

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 08:19 PM
talking baout pelopnesian wars , Sparta was losing many small battles on land but winning on sea and that was the key to beat Athenes
considering loses

some examples

- messenian wars
- battle of leuctra
- matinea battle

and from tactical point of view they lost the battle of Thermopyle , because Persian Army ramapge over whole Grecce throught that pass, even Athenes were evacuated to Salamina , but in mental way it was the biggest victory ever

"In the Battle of Thermopylae of 480 BC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/480_BC), an alliance of Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks) city-states (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City-state) fought the invading Persian Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Empire) at the pass of Thermopylae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopylae) in central Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece). Vastly outnumbered, the Greeks held back the Persians for three days in one of history's most famous last stands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_stand). A small force led by King Leonidas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonidas_I) of Sparta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta) blocked the only road through which the massive army of Xerxes I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerxes_I_of_Persia) could pass. After three days of battle, a local resident named Ephialtes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephialtes_of_Trachis) betrayed the Greeks by revealing a mountain path that led behind the Greek lines. Dismissing the rest of the army, King Leonidas stayed behind with 300 Spartans and 700 Thespian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thespiae) volunteers. The Persians succeeded in taking the pass but sustained heavy losses, extremely disproportionate to those of the Greeks"

That's how they lost, nonetheless warriors.

And Many a battle was won at sea, and if it weren't for the sea ancient warfare would be more of a open and shut case. Many of the great battles fought and won wouldn't have been, if not for the sea

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 08:23 PM
"In the Battle of Thermopylae of 480 BC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/480_BC), an alliance of Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks) city-states (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City-state) fought the invading Persian Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Empire) at the pass of Thermopylae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopylae) in central Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece). Vastly outnumbered, the Greeks held back the Persians for three days in one of history's most famous last stands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_stand). A small force led by King Leonidas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonidas_I) of Sparta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta) blocked the only road through which the massive army of Xerxes I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerxes_I_of_Persia) could pass. After three days of battle, a local resident named Ephialtes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephialtes_of_Trachis) betrayed the Greeks by revealing a mountain path that led behind the Greek lines. Dismissing the rest of the army, King Leonidas stayed behind with 300 Spartans and 700 Thespian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thespiae) volunteers. The Persians succeeded in taking the pass but sustained heavy losses, extremely disproportionate to those of the Greeks"

That's how they lost, nonetheless warriors.

And Many a battle was won at sea, and if it weren't for the sea ancient warfare would be more of a open and shut case. Many of the great battles fought and won wouldn't have been, if not for the sea

OK and what's your point ??
Spartans lost more battles than they won they won on Platea but not alone, lost many times in Messenian wars, lost big battles to Thebes, and they haven't won alone any battle against Persian army that's a historical fact

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 08:28 PM
OK and what's your point ??
Spartans lost more battles than they won they won on Platea but not alone, lost many times in Messenian wars, lost big battles to Thebes, and they haven't won alone any battle against Persian army that's a historical fact

I don't know what your are talking about, greece was a place of city-states that worked independently of each other, sparta didn't lose out to the persians, greece did. And it was Athen that the persians marched into and burned.

trixtah
03-23-2007, 08:29 PM
this thread just failed...the curse of the falling seeds is over

tcorinna
03-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Already out
- no. 8 J.Blake lost to Serra
- no. 18 L.Hewitt injury
- no 22 Hrbaty lost ot Llodra
- no. 26 J.Melzer lost to Mathieu

and it will happen
- no.5 F.Gonazalez losing to Johansson
- no. 10 Djokovic will lose to Braccialli
- no. 11 Nalbadnian will lose to Spadea
- no. 14 Berdych will lose to Clement
- no. 16 Youzhny losing to Gabashvili
- no. 17 Baghdatis will lose to Del Potro
- no. 19 Ferrero will lose to Canas
- no.20 Nieminen will lose to Korolev
- no. 22 Hrabty will lose to Llodra
- no. 25 Safin will lose to Lopez

:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:


Gonzo won :) ... and Misha will also win :) ... and I realy, realy hope that Marat will win ... :)

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 08:30 PM
Gonzo won :) ... and Misha will also win :) ... and I realy, realy hope that Marat will win ... :)

Yeah I know, this thread was a jinx to the jinx

Marek.
03-23-2007, 08:33 PM
Thanks Loremaster:worship: Because of you, Gonzalez and Youzhny both came back and won.

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 08:34 PM
I don't know what your are talking about, greece was a place of city-states that worked independently of each other, sparta didn't lose out to the persians, greece did. And it was Athen that the persians marched into and burned.

so you have ruined your sig because going into by your logic Rafa is not a Spartan but Greek becase Greeks defated Persian army :devil:

and Sparta as independent city-sate lost more big battles than won

Adler
03-23-2007, 08:35 PM
Meanwhile, another roaster (Youzhny) survives

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 08:36 PM
so you have ruined your sig because going into by your logic Rafa is not a Spartan but Greek becase Greeks defated Persian army :devil:

and Sparta as independent city-sate lost more big battles than won

No I was never talking about greece as a whole you did. And what battle that were so important did they lose, please so i can go look it up, I really don't know what you are talking about.

It was the spartans that held the persian back, but eventually greece as a whole got sacked by them and Athens got burned

JBdV
03-23-2007, 08:36 PM
ONE movie comes out and suddenly these kids are obsessed with ancient history...wtf?!

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 08:38 PM
ONE movie comes out and suddenly these kids are obsessed with ancient history...wtf?!

Well I actually studied in college, but it wasn't my major or anything so I don't proclaim to know or remember too much about it.

Does that help

Adler
03-23-2007, 08:39 PM
ONE movie comes out and suddenly these kids are obsessed with ancient history...wtf?!
actually, this move doesn't have much in common with history

ChinoRios4Ever
03-23-2007, 08:39 PM
JINX TIME!!!!! :devil: Gonzo won in 2, Misha cameback to win... who's next?

Sunset of Age
03-23-2007, 08:42 PM
ONE movie comes out and suddenly these kids are obsessed with ancient history...wtf?!

I've been asking myself that question for quite a while too.
The more because said movie isn't an accurate retelling of actual history, but rather a stereotype Hollywoodian f**k up of it.

mashamaniac
03-23-2007, 08:44 PM
generally what was the purpose of making such a useless thread?? maybe it's been a jinx but really didn't work out...and of course nole is winning bracciali easily!

scoobs
03-23-2007, 08:47 PM
76 *43 is not exactly "easily"...62 *52 is perhaps "easily"...but yeah Nole is winning.

Johnny Groove
03-23-2007, 08:47 PM
SPARTA!!!!! :rocker2:

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 08:50 PM
76 *43 is not exactly "easily"...62 *52 is perhaps "easily"...but yeah Nole is winning.

Bracciali is keeping it much tighter than in previous encounters.

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 08:51 PM
SPARTA!!!!! :rocker2:


THE MUGHALS!!!!

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 08:54 PM
No I was never talking about greece as a whole you did. And what battle that were so important did they lose, please so i can go look it up, I really don't know what you are talking about.

It was the spartans that held the persian back, but eventually greece as a whole got sacked by them and Athens got burned

the battles against Thebes because hey finished independence of Sparta

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 08:57 PM
I've been asking myself that question for quite a while too.
The more because said movie isn't an accurate retelling of actual history, but rather a stereotype Hollywoodian f**k up of it.

The movie is great, come on if someone thought that "300" will be history accurate thats:rolleyes: it was based on Frank Miller graphic novel which isn't hisotry accurate
it was Frank Millers interpretatnio so movie is interpretation of interpretation

mashamaniac
03-23-2007, 09:01 PM
76 *43 is not exactly "easily"...62 *52 is perhaps "easily"...but yeah Nole is winning.


if those results are easily so what's a double bagel or a 6-16-1 score?? maybe scoreboard doesn't show a result as an easy victory but i meant his match-time shows just a pretty easy match as they've played a tiebreaker and the second one was relatively tight! anyways he won it 7-66-4 in an hour and 23 mins! by hitting 13 aces!:confused: :wavey:

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 09:03 PM
anyways he won it 7-66-4 in an hour and 23 mins! by hitting 13 aces!:confused: :wavey:

13 aces is a good number. Bracciali has a worse return than Karlovic.

scoobs
03-23-2007, 09:06 PM
if those results are easily so what's a double bagel or a 6-16-1 score?? maybe scoreboard doesn't show a result as an easy victory but i meant his match-time shows just a pretty easy match as they've played a tiebreaker and the second one was relatively tight! anyways he won it 7-66-4 in an hour and 23 mins! by hitting 13 aces!:confused: :wavey:
6-0 6-0 or - 6-1 6-1 is "very easily"

what, don't they teach the concept of relativities any more?

Sunset of Age
03-23-2007, 09:07 PM
The movie is great, come on if someone thought that "300" will be history accurate thats:rolleyes: it was based on Frank Miller graphic novel which isn't hisotry accurate
it was Frank Millers interpretatnio so movie is interpretation of interpretation

I pretty well know, thanks.
Then again, it seems to have prompted people in a quite ridiculous discussion and/or comparisons anyhow - which involves the real history. :rolleyes:

mashamaniac
03-23-2007, 09:08 PM
bracciali is a good player but really don't deserve to be where he is right now! he played a spectacular tennis vs roger in dubai but IMO is too far from beig a top 30 player:) but as for returns i haven't seen anyone worse than karlovic so far!:devil:

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 09:09 PM
I pretty well know, thanks.
Then again, it seems to have prompted people in a quite ridiculous discussion and/or comparisons anyhow - which involves the real history. :rolleyes:

yeah exactly and that is bad part of it , especially when now everyones things that Spartans are some superhumans unbeatable and alaways victourious

Loremaster
03-23-2007, 09:11 PM
Tursunov and Baghdatis are next on the line to be sent home

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 09:11 PM
I pretty well know, thanks.
Then again, it seems to have prompted people in a quite ridiculous discussion and/or comparisons anyhow - which involves the real history. :rolleyes:

no, it didn't your just going with what some one else posted

mashamaniac
03-23-2007, 09:13 PM
6-0 6-0 or - 6-1 6-1 is "very easily"

what, don't they teach the concept of relativities any more?

when a brit wants to teach "the concept of relativities"!!! is a good title for making a comedy movie (sorry man:) )

Sunset of Age
03-23-2007, 09:15 PM
yeah exactly and that is bad part of it , especially when now everyones things that Spartans are some superhumans unbeatable and alaways victourious

Thank you, that is exactly my point why I think these comparisons are complete BS.

mashamaniac
03-23-2007, 09:17 PM
Tursunov and Baghdatis are next on the line to be sent home

yup. seems like baghdatis is next to go out by 6-2*1-0 i guess if we want to calculate it by relativities,it'll be a half-easy victory so far...then what if jmdp wins it by 6-2*6-1??;)

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 09:17 PM
yeah exactly and that is bad part of it , especially when now everyones things that Spartans are some superhumans unbeatable and alaways victourious

only u think that. the spartans were great at what they did, so was Alexander the great and the Genghis khan, it's about being a warriors and that's why we compare rafa to them.

Adler
03-23-2007, 09:20 PM
Rafa is a spartan and he will DEFEAT the Persian federated army AS history always repeats itself (signature)
Karl Marks used to say that history repeats itself only as a farse, so I wouldn't recommend that :)

mashamaniac
03-23-2007, 09:20 PM
JMDP is up 6-2*2-1 so far :)

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 09:24 PM
Karl Marks used to say that history repeats itself only as a farse, so I wouldn't recommend that :)

Look my sig stays, so people can attack it all they want. I support it 100%:cool:

Tnn74
03-23-2007, 09:28 PM
I also support your sig. 100%

Metis
03-23-2007, 09:29 PM
JMDP is up 6-2*2-1 so far :)

No, they are still on serve in the 2nd: 6-2, 2-1* :) Play suspended due to rain though.

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 09:32 PM
I also support your sig. 100%

Vamoss sparta :music:

scoobs
03-23-2007, 09:39 PM
when a brit wants to teach "the concept of relativities"!!! is a good title for making a comedy movie (sorry man:) )
Well as long as it amused you. And made sense to you. That's the main thing.

mashamaniac
03-23-2007, 10:02 PM
Well as long as it amused you. And made sense to you. That's the main thing.

no sense really:) just kidding...honestly,these kind of stuff really don't make any sense or amusement!:D

danton
03-23-2007, 10:04 PM
With Blake and Hrbaty out Djokovic's draw has just opened up again. Only Marat is left in the quarter and based on recent form he shouldn't be a problem. He is still in the same half as Nadal but he should have an easy ride into the semi's

Apemant
03-24-2007, 05:10 PM
you basically jinxed all the unseeded players

I hate to spoil it for you... but you know, jinxes don't really work. :devil:

RickDaStick
03-24-2007, 05:12 PM
Loremaster: You are not very good at this, so please do yourself a favor and stop making predictions. You have been saying Ljubo will be out of the top 10 from the day he made it in and if you havent noticed he is still in the top 10. Korolev to beat Jarkko?? Good call there.

Loremaster
03-24-2007, 05:16 PM
Loremaster: You are not very good at this, so please do yourself a favor and stop making predictions. You have been saying Ljubo will be out of the top 10 from the day he made it in and if you havent noticed he is still in the top 10. Korolev to beat Jarkko?? Good call there.

Yeah I know that you love manipulation I said that Ljubo will be out oif Top10 after RG are you stupid and can't read because I am saying it to you every time and you still can't figure it out ,
I am 5-4 on predicting Ljubo loses this year so it isn't too bad ??

RickDaStick
03-24-2007, 05:18 PM
Yeah I know that you love manipulation I said that Ljubo will be out oif Top10 after RG are you stupid and can't read because I am saying it to you every time and you still can't figure it out ,
I am 5-4 on predicting Ljubo loses this year so it isn't too bad ??


Good for you!! Do you want a cookie? :retard:

Loremaster
03-24-2007, 05:21 PM
Good for you!! Do you want a cookie? :retard:

and do you wanna bet that Ljubo is not going to defend his points from last year Miami ??

Ah as always maybe you will sau 1000x that I said that Ljubo will be out of top10 ?? I wanna see you face when he will be out of Top10 after RG ??

atheneglaukopis
03-24-2007, 05:58 PM
And another one bites the dust. Falla df. Haas, 6-4 6-4.

Loremaster
03-24-2007, 06:09 PM
Yeah I updated so now in 2nd round 2 Top10 exited

RickDaStick
03-24-2007, 09:09 PM
and do you wanna bet that Ljubo is not going to defend his points from last year Miami ??

Ah as always maybe you will sau 1000x that I said that Ljubo will be out of top10 ?? I wanna see you face when he will be out of Top10 after RG ??

well its almost a given that Ljubo will be out of the top 10 then so i dont know why you think you made some remarkable prediction. I guarantee you he will be back in the top 10 by the end of the year.

trixtah
03-24-2007, 09:17 PM
Karl Marks used to say that history repeats itself only as a farse, so I wouldn't recommend that :)

marx

Tzar
03-24-2007, 09:45 PM
yeah but in wars against Thebes weren just fine example how Spartan army could be destroyed Thebes had superior soldiers especially The Sacred Band which was destroyed by Philip but even he cried over theirs body because every soldier was killed and gave their live to defend his lover

PLEASE THIS IS A TENNIS THREAD. MAKE A HISTORY THREAD IN THE NON TENNIS PART-.. :)!

Tzar
03-24-2007, 09:47 PM
Nalbandian Def Spadea 6-3 6-4

Bagelicious
03-24-2007, 10:02 PM
Look my sig stays, so people can attack it all they want. I support it 100%:cool:

:haha: I'm so sad I missed another epic MTF battle.

Tzar
03-25-2007, 03:06 PM
:confused:

Tom Paulman
03-25-2007, 03:20 PM
(31) Acasuso lost to (q) Delic, ate 1 bagel