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How to make tennis instantly popular

r2473
03-23-2007, 06:35 PM
The discussion about poor (US) television coverage of tennis and the decline of the popularity of tennis (in the US) got me thinking. How could the USTA make the sport more popular?

The answer quickly became obvious.

Federer simply needs to become a US citizen. For the good of the game, I think he really should be forced. I mean, look at other sports. Anybody who is any good quickly comes to the US and becomes a citizen (of course, soccer is an exception and in hockey, they can become Canadinan citizens as well (same thing)). In the US, we don't watch anything where we are not the best.

A sort of related example is golf. Pre-Tiger golf was not so popular here in the US and TV coverage was nowhere near what it is today. Post-Tiger golf is huge. People love to watch golf on TV and the courses are filled with beer swilling, foul-mouthed, idiots who simply want to hit a drive as far as possible. A vast improvement. If Federer becomes a US citizen, tennis could be transformed in a like manner.

The fact that Federer won't become a US citizen just shows once again what a selfish, egotistical person he really is. Surely he can understand that the US must be the best at everything and we are quick to adopt champions and claim them as our own.

I think Nadal should become a US citizen too. He has the kind of personality and playing style that Americans love.

After these guys become US citizens, then we can decide how to change the rules to favor Americans. With that done, I think we would pretty much solve all problems tennis is now facing.

What do you all think? I think my idea can't miss.

SBruguera
03-23-2007, 06:38 PM
Dress-code: no t-shirts

scoobs
03-23-2007, 06:39 PM
My schedule tells me there's a big event happening this week but the posts are like it's the deepest void in the middle of the off-season.

It's extremely confusing.

R.Federer
03-23-2007, 06:41 PM
Well it's no Djoke, the UK tried enlisting Djokovic as a citizen for related reasons.

scoobs
03-23-2007, 06:43 PM
Well it's no Djoke, the UK tried enlisting Djokovic as a citizen for related reasons.
Ahem. His family approached the Home Office, not the other way around. I was against the whole idea, personally.

Stensland
03-23-2007, 06:43 PM
brilliant thread, congratulation! :)

great that you didn't put any smilies in it, that would've destroyed much of the irony.

Sunset of Age
03-23-2007, 06:47 PM
You aren't being SERIOUS, are you?

IF you are - the US of A is NOT the Center of the Universe. Tennis can manage very well without being US-centered.
Please do your countrymen a favour and don't post such nonsense.

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 06:49 PM
You aren't being SERIOUS, are you?

IF you are - the US of A is NOT the Center of the Universe. Tennis can manage very well without being US-centered.
Please do your countrymen a favour and don't post such nonsense.

Oh calm down, it was funny

ezekiel
03-23-2007, 06:49 PM
Ahem. His family approached the Home Office, not the other way around. I was against the whole idea, personally.


Brits can only dream of someone as good as Nole :worship:

And if you believe that story about Home Office then I have some nuclear bombs in Baghdad to sell to you :angel:

ezekiel
03-23-2007, 06:50 PM
Well it's no Djoke, the UK tried enlisting Djokovic as a citizen for related reasons.

and they failed :p

scoobs
03-23-2007, 06:51 PM
Brits can only dream of someone as good as Nole :worship:

And if you believe that story about Home Office then I have some nuclear bombs in Baghdad to sell to you :angel:
Australians too :)

R.Federer
03-23-2007, 06:52 PM
Ahem. His family approached the Home Office, not the other way around. I was against the whole idea, personally.

Aha. Two separate ideas making the rounds in the media then. My source said explicitly they courted him (more for DC reasons not tennis popularity, although I guess the two tie in) and he turned it down.

I'll have to do some investigations.

R.Federer
03-23-2007, 06:54 PM
Ahem. His family approached the Home Office, not the other way around. I was against the whole idea, personally.

Btw, before I hunt down my sources, what would be his reason to move from SRB? Did he need to get out of military service or something? They have supported him all along.

r2473
03-23-2007, 06:54 PM
You aren't being SERIOUS, are you?

IF you are - the US of A is NOT the Center of the Universe. Tennis can manage very well without being US-centered.
Please do your countrymen a favour and don't post such nonsense.

Not the center of the Universe? How can you say that.

Look Federer is from Switzerland, right (or one of those small, insignificant European countries)? I mean, how many Americans can even find it on a map. Probably not 1 in 10.

So how can we cheer for him.

Stensland
03-23-2007, 06:55 PM
Aha. Two separate ideas making the rounds in the media then. My source said explicitly they courted him (more for DC reasons not tennis popularity, although I guess the two tie in) and he turned it down.

I'll have to do some investigations.

i also heard it the other way around, the home office approaching djokovic because of his ties with murray.

i guess you're confusing it with ivanovic on the women's tour, who tried to play for switzerland but was turned down.

R.Federer
03-23-2007, 06:56 PM
Here you go. From the UK Guardian no less

The ball is in their court, that's the bottom line," said Roger Draper, the LTA's new chief executive, yesterday. "We cannot do anything until they make the decision." However, it is understood that the LTA has been actively pursuing the Djokovic family and trying to smooth the way for a move to Britain.
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tennis/story/0,,1802197,00.html

He was not the pursuer, just the spurner/pursuee.

scoobs
03-23-2007, 06:57 PM
Btw, before I hunt down my sources, what would be his reason to move from SRB? Did he need to get out of military service or something? They have supported him all along.
His family approached the Home Office mainly for Nole's younger brothers - his parents wanted better access to tennis facilities than they could get in Serbia for Nole's also extremely talented younger brothers. When the story broke everyone very hurriedly backed away from the idea.

I'm glad - I don't believe citizenship should be bought and sold for such reasons.

r2473
03-23-2007, 06:57 PM
This has to be a sketch comedy routine right? No smilies though...

If you are serious, then that's a GREAT plan. Better yet, why not move all of the ATP tournaments, including the 3 other GS over to the US? We'll just rename them- USO's I-IV. :p

Why didn't I think of that?

We should rename one "World Series" and one "Super Bowl" however. Maybe we can keep the name "Wimbledon" (for a while anyway).

R.Federer
03-23-2007, 06:57 PM
i also heard it the other way around, the home office approaching djokovic because of his ties with murray.

i guess you're confusing it with ivanovic on the women's tour, who tried to play for switzerland but was turned down.

I am not confused, and I never heard about Ivanovic playing/wanting to for Switzerland.
It is what I heard about the UK trying to get djokovic. And I gave one link above.

scoobs
03-23-2007, 07:00 PM
Here you go. From the UK Guardian no less

The ball is in their court, that's the bottom line," said Roger Draper, the LTA's new chief executive, yesterday. "We cannot do anything until they make the decision." However, it is understood that the LTA has been actively pursuing the Djokovic family and trying to smooth the way for a move to Britain.
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tennis/story/0,,1802197,00.html

He was not the pursuer, just the spurner/pursuee.
I think you're mistaking the LTA's enthusiasm to make it happen if the Djokovic family wanted it to, with who made the initial approach.

"His mother, Dijana, spoke to the LTA in April during the Davis Cup tie between Serbia & Montenegro and Britain and the talks have continued ever since." - from the article

Yes the LTA offered to do what it could to smooth the hurdles that would be in the way. I'm sure their eyes lit up at the prospect of one older Djokovic and two young ones becoming UK citizens and playing DC for us one day - it let them off the hook for their appalling record in nurturing home grown talent.

I understand the initial approach was made by the Djokovic parents.

All in all, it doesn't matter. It didn't happen and I'm very glad.

Stensland
03-23-2007, 07:00 PM
I am not confused, and I never heard about Ivanovic playing/wanting to for Switzerland.
It is what I heard about the UK trying to get djokovic. And I gave one link above.

hm, maybe i am the confused one... ;)

sorry, never mind. :)

R.Federer
03-23-2007, 07:02 PM
I think you're mistaking the LTA's enthusiasm to make it happen if the Djokovic family wanted it to, with who made the initial approach.


Well, I am not mistaking it because this is the only thing I have read --one side's approach (the LTA's in this case) and not seen something about the Djokovic family approaching the UK Home office --but if there is, I would like to read about that.

Bobby
03-23-2007, 07:03 PM
Not the center of the Universe? How can you say that.

Look Federer is from Switzerland, right (or one of those small, insignificant European countries)? I mean, how many Americans can even find it on a map. Probably not 1 in 10.
So how can we cheer for him.


That says a lot about the Americans... I know this thread is a joke but not many people would bother to start one.

Stensland
03-23-2007, 07:03 PM
oh, thank god, i'm not confused about the ivanovic-thing:


----

http://www.zurichopen.net/index.php?SID=d99f8d07823b64e77726f105dc933350&pn=interviews_details_archive&sc_year=2004&id_selected=337&id_categories=194


You did not get nervous when you got down?

Just a little bit, I just did not think about the score, I just played point after point.

Do you live in Switzerland now?

No, in Bulgaria, but I want to move to Switzerland. I am very happy, that my first bigger tournament was here. It is just a great place. I always like to come here.

Is it true that you try to get the Swiss passport?

Yes, I try – it would be great to compete for Switzerland, but there are a lot of things to do.
Somehow I am connected with Switzerland, also my manager, he is from Basel.

Do you speak a little bit of Swiss German?

I just know some words, but I want to learn it.

Where will you practice with Zoltan Kuharszky?

We still don’t know, but we try to make it here in Zurich.

First you wanted to practice in Basel, right?

Yes, but I think in Zurich are more possibilities.

scoobs
03-23-2007, 07:03 PM
Read the quote from the article

His mother, Dijana, spoke to the LTA in April during the Davis Cup tie between Serbia & Montenegro and Britain and the talks have continued ever since.

The family made the initial approach and the LTA pursued the idea. Very simple.

R.Federer
03-23-2007, 07:04 PM
And yes, now that you mentioned it, I do remember something about the parents looking for better facilities for tennis education for his brothers.

R.Federer
03-23-2007, 07:05 PM
Read the quote from the article

His mother, Dijana, spoke to the LTA in April during the Davis Cup tie between Serbia & Montenegro and Britain and the talks have continued ever since.

The family made the initial approach and the LTA pursued the idea. Very simple.

I thought his mother spoke to the LTA because she had heard that they were interested? That would sound like the LTA was interested first....

There is something in it for both sides, and until either side speaks I don't know how I can take either side as the instigator.

scoobs
03-23-2007, 07:06 PM
I may be wrong in my recollection of it being the home office, it may just have been the LTA, but I am pretty confident from what I read that it was the Djokovic family who expressed an interest based on trying to find better facilities for Novak's younger brothers.

SBruguera
03-23-2007, 07:08 PM
Now seriously, the worldwide tennis attendance is higher or lower than in the past?

scoobs
03-23-2007, 07:09 PM
If the approach had been by the LTA it would have been written up as "The LTA spoke to his mother, Dijana...", not the other way around.

Also:

http://www.tennis.com/features/hotshots/hotshots.aspx?id=64332

Last year, Djokovic’s mother said he was interested in obtaining British citizenship not because of any connection to the country, but because she and Djokovic wanted to secure training for his younger brothers and further Djokovic’s sponsorship opportunities

Also:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_20060702/ai_n16514061

Mrs Djokovic might have been testing the water, but the bait was swallowed all the same. "I don't want to say yes and I don't want to say no," she said. "We are trying to find the best situation for our family. We want the best conditions for our boys to play tennis in because they are all so good. We have given 10 years of our life to helping Novak. Our federation does not have the money to help us so the family has to pay. Our federation is trying, but it's not enough. Great Britain is looking for heroes and it has the money to support the kids."

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 07:09 PM
s.

Federer simply needs to become a US citizen. For the good of the game, I think he really should be forced. I mean, look at other sports. Anybody who is any good quickly comes to the US and becomes a citizen (of course, soccer is an exception and in hockey, they can become Canadinan citizens as well (same thing)). In the US, we don't watch anything where we are not the best.

A sort of related example is golf. Pre-Tiger golf was not so popular here in the US and TV coverage was nowhere near what it is today. Post-Tiger golf is huge. People love to watch golf on TV

The fact that Federer won't become a US citizen just shows once again what a selfish, egotistical person he really is. Surely he can understand that the US must be the best at everything and we are quick to adopt champions and claim them as our own.

I think Nadal should become a US citizen too. He has the kind of personality and playing style that Americans love.




I agree we aren't fans of anything we are not the best at, I mean look at Cycling I think it was Conan O'Brian who said

"finally now that Lance has retired we as americans can go back to not giving a shit about cycling"

As well it should be

And of course fed won't come to america what else would you expect from him.

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 07:11 PM
Now seriously, the worldwide tennis attendance is higher or lower than in the past?

Attendance at American events is up. Some people just love to be gloomy.

scoobs
03-23-2007, 07:12 PM
Attendance at American events is up. Some people just love to be gloomy.
I don't think attendance has ever been healthier at most events - certainly the biggies. All the slams posted record attendances, I think, last year. Indian Wells just did again.

Far too many doom and gloom merchants.

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 07:14 PM
Why do you have to become a British citizen to train in Britain? France, Spain, Germany, America, do not require it. Does the LTA have all the British tennis money?

Just curious as to the structure of things.

MisterQ
03-23-2007, 07:16 PM
Awesome idea. :yeah:

Or they could just ban Swaziland from the tour, then we wouldn't have to deal with this Federer dude.

scoobs
03-23-2007, 07:17 PM
Why do you have to become a British citizen to train in Britain? France, Spain, Germany, America, do not require it. Does the LTA have all the British tennis money?

Just curious as to the structure of things.
I know. It's all bollocks anyway - surely the Djokovic's could get his brothers in a Bolletieri's or something - one of the academies anyway, if they're *that* good. Nick takes em for free if they're that good.

So I don't know what the whole thing was about anyway.

SBruguera
03-23-2007, 07:17 PM
Why do you have to become a British citizen to train in Britain? France, Spain, Germany, America, do not require it. Does the LTA have all the British tennis money?

Just curious as to the structure of things.

According to Pat Cash the LTA is giving most of the money to Brad Gilbert haha

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.1268146.0.0.php

scoobs
03-23-2007, 07:18 PM
According to Pat Cash the LTA is giving most of the money to Brad Gilbert haha

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.1268146.0.0.php
Money well spent.

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 07:21 PM
Something that actually was, "a storm in a tea-pot."

As for nationality and tennis: It seems to me that in the EU era, more players are retaining their official residencies in their home country. I don't know if this makes anyone spend more money on tennis, but it's nice that we all don't have Monte Carlo residencies.

At the very least, it saves 5 seconds at the beginning of every tennis tele-cast.

r2473
03-23-2007, 07:29 PM
Attendance at American events is up. Some people just love to be gloomy.

I think this is true. This has more to do with the fact that Americans have more disposable income (or access to credit) than before.

Hell, attendance is up at movie theatres as well. And the quality of most films....sometimes I swear Shakespeare himself is the author.

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 07:31 PM
I think this is true. This has more to do with the fact that Americans have more disposable income (or access to credit) than before.

Hell, attendance is up at movie theatres as well. And the quality of most films....sometimes I swear Shakespeare himself is the author.

Point 1 is debatable.

Point 2: "Oh great I've got 50 movie channels. Now I can watch Soul Plane 800 times a day."

sondraj06
03-23-2007, 07:32 PM
Yeah americans love to spend money, if it's here it'll get a big turnout.

scoobs
03-23-2007, 07:33 PM
Point 1 is debatable.

Point 2: "Oh great I've got 50 movie channels. Now I can watch Soul Plane 800 times a day."
"Snakes on a Plane" - the lost Shakespeare Opus :D

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 07:36 PM
"Snakes on a Plane" - the lost Shakespeare Opus :D

There is that, "I've got an onion in my hat," scene in Henry V.

ezekiel
03-23-2007, 07:43 PM
Here you go. From the UK Guardian no less

The ball is in their court, that's the bottom line," said Roger Draper, the LTA's new chief executive, yesterday. "We cannot do anything until they make the decision." However, it is understood that the LTA has been actively pursuing the Djokovic family and trying to smooth the way for a move to Britain.
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tennis/story/0,,1802197,00.html

He was not the pursuer, just the spurner/pursuee.

Guardian is the leading anti Serbian source along with bbc and new york times so whatever they say is very loaded and has no credibility whatsoever. Of course time proved them to be liars once again but I don't expect appologies from such lowlives ;)

ezekiel
03-23-2007, 07:44 PM
Australians too :)

I am serbian canadian FYI

r2473
03-23-2007, 07:45 PM
"Snakes on a Plane" - the lost Shakespeare Opus :D

One of his later, mature works for sure.

But I think Francis Bacon wrote "Snakes" (how could Shakespeare have know anything about airplanes?).

scoobs
03-23-2007, 07:47 PM
One of his later, mature works for sure.

But I think Francis Bacon wrote "Snakes" (how could Shakespeare have know anything about airplanes?).
He was a regular visionary, was Shakespeare.

ezekiel
03-23-2007, 07:52 PM
I am not confused, and I never heard about Ivanovic playing/wanting to for Switzerland.
It is what I heard about the UK trying to get djokovic. And I gave one link above.

Yes they tried to snatch him but he is smarter than that. Their story switched from a story of them approaching british tennis association to them pursuing them. It was a mess and I am glad it's over for them :D

Richard_from_Cal
03-25-2007, 12:40 AM
The discussion about poor (US) television coverage of tennis and the decline of the popularity of tennis (in the US) got me thinking. How could the USTA make the sport more popular?

The answer quickly became obvious.

Federer simply needs to become a US citizen. For the good of the game, I think he really should be forced. I mean, look at other sports. Anybody who is any good quickly comes to the US and becomes a citizen (of course, soccer is an exception and in hockey, they can become Canadinan citizens as well (same thing)). In the US, we don't watch anything where we are not the best.

A sort of related example is golf. Pre-Tiger golf was not so popular here in the US and TV coverage was nowhere near what it is today. Post-Tiger golf is huge. People love to watch golf on TV and the courses are filled with beer swilling, foul-mouthed, idiots who simply want to hit a drive as far as possible. A vast improvement. If Federer becomes a US citizen, tennis could be transformed in a like manner.

The fact that Federer won't become a US citizen just shows once again what a selfish, egotistical person he really is. Surely he can understand that the US must be the best at everything and we are quick to adopt champions and claim them as our own.

I think Nadal should become a US citizen too. He has the kind of personality and playing style that Americans love.

After these guys become US citizens, then we can decide how to change the rules to favor Americans. With that done, I think we would pretty much solve all problems tennis is now facing.

What do you all think? I think my idea can't miss.
Ahhh.---I finally see the link in this satire with current events. Iraq.

One can't force somebody to be a success. Is that it?
For your response, r2473, I offer this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUOIWdwYy98
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Corey Feldman
03-25-2007, 12:51 AM
r2473 i like you :lol:

VolklVenom
03-25-2007, 02:53 AM
to make tennis popular (remember the OP), you need a scandal involving, Federer/Mirka, Nadal/SuperModel, or combinations of the 2.
Once these are slattered of the covers of "trash" magazines, then just sit back and watch tennis go primetime.

*Viva Chile*
03-25-2007, 04:09 AM
Mr. Disney is that you??? :o

DMNRS22
03-25-2007, 04:21 AM
The discussion about poor (US) television coverage of tennis and the decline of the popularity of tennis (in the US) got me thinking. How could the USTA make the sport more popular?

The answer quickly became obvious.

Federer simply needs to become a US citizen. For the good of the game, I think he really should be forced. I mean, look at other sports. Anybody who is any good quickly comes to the US and becomes a citizen (of course, soccer is an exception and in hockey, they can become Canadinan citizens as well (same thing)). In the US, we don't watch anything where we are not the best.

A sort of related example is golf. Pre-Tiger golf was not so popular here in the US and TV coverage was nowhere near what it is today. Post-Tiger golf is huge. People love to watch golf on TV and the courses are filled with beer swilling, foul-mouthed, idiots who simply want to hit a drive as far as possible. A vast improvement. If Federer becomes a US citizen, tennis could be transformed in a like manner.

The fact that Federer won't become a US citizen just shows once again what a selfish, egotistical person he really is. Surely he can understand that the US must be the best at everything and we are quick to adopt champions and claim them as our own.

I think Nadal should become a US citizen too. He has the kind of personality and playing style that Americans love.

After these guys become US citizens, then we can decide how to change the rules to favor Americans. With that done, I think we would pretty much solve all problems tennis is now facing.

What do you all think? I think my idea can't miss.


HAHA...Good one!:devil:

Maybe the reason why the U.S is not into tennis is because our players are not good. We have to invest more in player development.

england_rules
03-25-2007, 04:46 AM
Why didn't I think of that?

We should rename one "World Series" and one "Super Bowl" however. Maybe we can keep the name "Wimbledon" (for a while anyway).
No, it has to be called "Wimpleton" to be successful! :p

CyBorg
03-25-2007, 05:16 AM
Not the center of the Universe? How can you say that.

Look Federer is from Switzerland, right (or one of those small, insignificant European countries)? I mean, how many Americans can even find it on a map. Probably not 1 in 10.

So how can we cheer for him.

*sigh*

Tennis Fool
03-25-2007, 05:51 AM
Wait...there are two entirely different conversations going on here :timebomb:

R.Federer
03-25-2007, 06:48 AM
Look Federer is from Switzerland, right (or one of those small, insignificant European countries)? I mean, how many Americans can even find it on a map. Probably not 1 in 10.
They cannot find it on a map means that Americans are poorly trained. It doesn't mean Switzerland is insignificant.

Americans can't find Canada on a map either. Now, that takes a lot of effort.

Here, an American-written (ie, more positive than the truth) piece that will illustrate the problem best:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After more than three years of combat and nearly 2,400 U.S. military deaths in Iraq, nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a map, a study released Tuesday showed. :yeah:

More.

The study found that less than six months after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, 33 percent could not point out Louisiana on a U.S. map. (Edit: These could possible include people from Louisiana).

The study, which surveyed 510 young Americans from December 17 to January 20, showed that 88 percent of those questioned could not find Afghanistan on a map of Asia despite widespread coverage of the U.S.-led overthrow of the Taliban in 2001 and the political rebirth of the country.

All I can say: :help:


If you have the stomach for the rest of it, http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/02/geog.test/index.html

kaetchen
03-25-2007, 08:38 AM
if we try to look seriously at this issue I think US media is to blame. I remember CNN complaining during 04 US Open how sad it is that there are no Americans left in the final weekend and what a disaster it is for the domestic broadcasters. I read somewhere here that it is common in the US to interrupt a TV match of non-US players in order to show an interview with a US player...If this is really the case it's suicidal for the US tennis in the long run - currently there are not that notable US players and it means less kids would become interested in tennis and start playing it, so it does no good to your chances of having a star in the future :shrug:
IMO you should just enjoy the quality of tennis regardless of who's playing it. We're all patriotic and usually want our players to do well but it doesn't mean that we forget there are players apart from them.

neeob
03-25-2007, 10:49 AM
They cannot find it on a map means that Americans are poorly trained. It doesn't mean Switzerland is insignificant.

Americans can't find Canada on a map either. Now, that takes a lot of effort.

Here, an American-written (ie, more positive than the truth) piece that will illustrate the problem best:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After more than three years of combat and nearly 2,400 U.S. military deaths in Iraq, nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a map, a study released Tuesday showed. :yeah:

More.

The study found that less than six months after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, 33 percent could not point out Louisiana on a U.S. map. (Edit: These could possible include people from Louisiana).

The study, which surveyed 510 young Americans from December 17 to January 20, showed that 88 percent of those questioned could not find Afghanistan on a map of Asia despite widespread coverage of the U.S.-led overthrow of the Taliban in 2001 and the political rebirth of the country.

All I can say: :help:


If you have the stomach for the rest of it, http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/02/geog.test/index.html


http://youtube.com/watch?v=BhTZ_tgMUdo ;)

r2473
03-26-2007, 05:08 PM
HAHA...Good one!:devil:

Maybe the reason why the U.S is not into tennis is because our players are not good. We have to invest more in player development.

Nope. Takes too long. Americans only have limited patience (and the attention span of 1 month old puppies).

Better to purchase a proven PRODUCT (i.e. Federer) on the open market.

(Invest in player development (scoff)......... You must be a bleeding heart liberal or something).

r2473
03-26-2007, 05:17 PM
Here, an American-written (ie, more positive than the truth) piece that will illustrate the problem best:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After more than three years of combat and nearly 2,400 U.S. military deaths in Iraq, nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a map, a study released Tuesday showed. :yeah:



That means 1/3 of Americans 18-24 can find Iraq on a map? Wow!! I guess that "no child left behind" program is starting to pay off already.

tangerine_dream
03-26-2007, 05:59 PM
You can always count on these kinds of threads to denigrate into another bash-America thread. :lol:

"According to the New York Post," one of Saddam's newshounds asked Powell, "Isn't it true that only 13% of young Americans can locate Iraq on a map?"

"That may be true," Powell countered. "You're probably right. But unfortunately for you, all 13% are Marines."
Bwahahaha.

And once again, tennis is not popular in the US because we have dozens of other popular sports that we'd rather watch (unlike Europe which seemingly has one dominant sport, soccer), not because we're anti-Swiss.

bokehlicious
03-26-2007, 06:03 PM
You can always count on these kinds of threads to denigrate into another bash-America thread. :lol:


You can always count on Tangy to rescue America :lol:

R.Federer
03-26-2007, 06:26 PM
That means 1/3 of Americans 18-24 can find Iraq on a map? Wow!! I guess that "no child left behind" program is starting to pay off already.

That 1/3rd are the young successful immigrants to the USA who were trained abroad. :angel:

(Jerry Seinfeld may be one of them).

tangerine_dream
03-26-2007, 06:28 PM
You can always count on Tangy to rescue America :lol:
I'll always defend my country from ignorance. :cool:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
03-26-2007, 06:28 PM
I don't know the answer actually.But I think making the tennis "less annoying" :p is to shorten the game.I guess some Americans even tennis fans find so boring to watch the match over 2 hours.

bokehlicious
03-26-2007, 06:32 PM
I'll always defend my country from ignorance. :cool:

:cat: :smooch: Good girl, so devoted :)

r2473
08-16-2010, 04:22 PM
This Federer is so arrogant :rolleyes:

Maybe we can convince Nadal to become American. That would give tennis a big boost (but he is probably too arrogant as well :rolleyes:).

ORGASMATRON
08-16-2010, 04:32 PM
nonsense, a large part of fed and rafas appeal is that they are not american. seriously, who cares about america?

ORGASMATRON
08-16-2010, 04:34 PM
This Federer is so arrogant :rolleyes:

Maybe we can convince Nadal to become American. That would give tennis a big boost (but he is probably too arrogant as well :rolleyes:).

you are the arrogant one for even suggesting that the GOAT should become american. if anyone is arrogant its americans.

Blackbriar
08-16-2010, 04:39 PM
its a rather good idea, it worked with Haas. somehow. I think Fed may become american when he plays on Black rock Tour.
the other one would be to train young talents to become champions :) but its too risky

r2473
08-16-2010, 04:46 PM
the other one would be to train young talents to become champions :) but its too risky

Takes too long. As I said above, this is a new era. We can't be arsed with the slow process of developing talent. We need to purchase a proven product.

But my view has changed since I posted this 3 years ago. Now I think Nadal should become American (forget Federer). We don't like fading past champions (Tiger Woods) much.