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Ivo Karlovic def. Frank Dancevic 6-7, 7-6, 6-3

Deathless Mortal
03-20-2007, 10:59 PM
Fired 29 aces :banana: Watch out MD players :armed:

Yappa
03-20-2007, 11:04 PM
Nice.
Any matchpoints for Dancevic in the 2nd set?

scoobs
03-20-2007, 11:05 PM
Nice.
Any matchpoints for Dancevic in the 2nd set?
No, Karlovic got to 6-5 first and then broke to take the second set.

Another close but no cigar for Frank.

FLL
03-20-2007, 11:06 PM
Nice.
Any matchpoints for Dancevic in the 2nd set?

No..

I'm so pissed... A player without anything but a serve beating an up and comming player with a very, very nice game!!! I'd like to see Ivo play with an average serve to see how he would fare... He would not be close to the top 500... :rolleyes:

Scotso
03-20-2007, 11:09 PM
Frank :sad:

Loftra
03-20-2007, 11:09 PM
Time for Ivo to do some damage in the main draw now

ASP0315
03-20-2007, 11:12 PM
Congrats Ivo. :woohoo:

No..

I'm so pissed... A player without anything but a serve beating an up and comming player with a very, very nice game!!! I'd like to see Ivo play with an average serve to see how he would fare... He would not be close to the top 500... :rolleyes:

Listen Asshole. Frank is an underrated player. Ge can't win any matches in main draw with his excellent groundstrokes. :lol: Karlo did a better job than frank. So STFU. Why is Frank rated above 50.?? :lol:

Here is Karlo's break record in San Jose
vs Garcia Lopez 1 break
vs Blake 2 breaks
vs Fish 1 break
vs Becker 1 break
vs Murray 1 break

He much better returner than some of those challenger players who can't even get into top 50 despite having good groundstrokes. :lol: Karlo is injury prone.(Always injury after another otherwise he is a top 20.) Do you know Mike Russell?? Same story is with him always getting injured. Atleast is good to see Karlo Mike on the tour. :yeah:

thunder2006
03-20-2007, 11:14 PM
:( i feel so bad for FRANK...he has been really close with so many matches of late....he just needs that one break through match against a top 50 player(perferably top 25) he has a good game but I guess its that mental breakthrough that he needs....poor canada...we suck when it comes to top tennis players!!!(except Nestor of course in doubles)

Bremen
03-20-2007, 11:15 PM
No, Karlovic got to 6-5 first and then broke to take the second set.

Another close but no cigar for Frank.

I know...he keeps coming so close to a breakthrough...he almost beat gonzalez and was close to roddick in much of that match. Is he ever going to get better?

Horatio Caine
03-20-2007, 11:19 PM
Unlucky there Frank :sad:

Nice win Ivo! :yeah: :worship: :bounce:

FLL
03-20-2007, 11:23 PM
Congrats Ivo. :woohoo:



Listen Asshole. Frank is an underrated player. Ge can't win any matches in main draw with his excellent groundstrokes. :lol: Karlo did a bettewr job than frank. So STFU. Why is Frank rated above 50.?? :lol:

Your head is probably in Ivo's ass if you can't agree that a part from his serve, he has nothing! Yeah, Frank's groundstrokes are head and shoulders above Ivo but if the guy hits 30 aces, it's pretty tough to hit one :rolleyes: So you STFU, get your head out of his ass and start realizing that Karlovic sucks.. Wait until the clay season and you'll know what I mean :lol: And what the hell does "Why is Frank rated above 50'' mean? Why is he not ranked in the top 50? He'll get there soon...

Labamba
03-20-2007, 11:24 PM
Ivo got Garcia-Lopez in the first round

Cañas vs Henman :cool:

FLL
03-20-2007, 11:24 PM
And you are damn right about Frank being underrated... it's probably not what you meant but it's not my fault that you can't express yourself while having your head deep in Ivo's ass!!

zicofirol
03-20-2007, 11:25 PM
No..

I'm so pissed... A player without anything but a serve beating an up and comming player with a very, very nice game!!! I'd like to see Ivo play with an average serve to see how he would fare... He would not be close to the top 500... :rolleyes:

that is because Dancevic is a choker, he faced like 10 Bp's how the hell can karlovic get 10 bp's?

If anything Dancevic should of forced a tb in the 3rd not get broken...

FLL
03-20-2007, 11:27 PM
I know...he keeps coming so close to a breakthrough...he almost beat gonzalez and was close to roddick in much of that match. Is he ever going to get better?

He is getting there.. A step at a time. He is much better then last year and next year, he'll be even better. He's taking sets from Roddick, Gasquet, Gonzalez, Murray, Hewitt and company! The next step is winning and often, people would want that to happen now and when it's not, they are questionning everything. RELAX! It will happen... No one wants to see Dancevic close to him in their draw, except if his name is Federer...

ASP0315
03-20-2007, 11:28 PM
Ivo got Garcia-Lopez in the first round

Cañas vs Henman :cool:

Oh yeah that would be cool match. Canas beat him what 4 times in a row. ? :lol: Karlo will beat GGL again. :yeah: This time with two breaks. :yeah:

Horatio Caine
03-20-2007, 11:28 PM
Karlo is injury prone.(Always injury after another otherwise he is a top 20.)

Dude. I like Ivo as well, but he is top 50 at best. Top 20 is madness

FLL
03-20-2007, 11:29 PM
that is because Dancevic is a choker, he faced like 10 Bp's how the hell can karlovic get 10 bp's?

If anything Dancevic should of forced a tb in the 3rd not get broken...

Karlovic is a type of player that plays terrible return game all the time.. You get confortable and then in a game, you play a couple of bad points and he hits one of his few good returns of the match... That's how he wins against everyone!

FLL
03-20-2007, 11:32 PM
And to the person that is saying that Ivo would be top 20, you are really on crack, dude! Are you kidding me.. You are probably joking right? Top 20! Have you seen who is in the top20? You really think you could bump someone out of there and put Ivo's name there and not laugh or think something is wrong?

ASP0315
03-20-2007, 11:33 PM
Yes it is time for Karlo haters. :lol: :lol:Who care about you FLL. You are a stupid jerk as always. Anyway i feel bad for Frank. I repect him as a player unlike you. I give respect to all players regardless whatever thier playing style and behavior is.

hablovah19
03-20-2007, 11:36 PM
Dancevic. :hug::sad:

FLL
03-20-2007, 11:38 PM
Yes it is time for Karlo haters. :lol: :lol:Who care about you FLL. You are a stupid jerk as always. Anyway i feel bad for Frank. I repect him as a player unlike you. I give respect to all players regardless whatever thier playing style and behavior is.

Yeah, I'm a jerk and damn proud of it but I'm not blind! Have I said anything not true in my analysis of Ivo's game? No! The only thing that might be untrue in what I said is Frank getting to the top 50. There is a chance he'll get there but it's still not certain. He'll be a solid top 80-70 player in his career and he'll play well on all surface.

And no, I don't respect Karlovic as a player! He is probably a very nice guy... who knows but come on, he is just lucky to have that bomb. I have a lot more respect for a player like Olivier Rochus who is top 30 without size and a serve. Give him a Karlovic serve and the guy is top5!

jazar
03-20-2007, 11:38 PM
3 sets and only 2 tiebreaks. ivo is slipping

Vinceten
03-20-2007, 11:39 PM
Frank :bigcry:...another too close lost :sad:

Horatio Caine
03-20-2007, 11:47 PM
Cañas vs Henman :cool:

Tim...you don't take your chances in IW and, surprise surprise, you get a nasty draw in Miami :mad:

:help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:

ASP0315
03-20-2007, 11:50 PM
3 sets and only 2 tiebreaks. ivo is slipping

Karlo "the return" King is back. :lol: :devil: he broke twice against second biggest server on the tour last week that is Guccione. Karlo had 8 bp's in this match but only converted once. But getting 8 bp's is good achievement as his returning percantage is improving every year. It is interesting to see how e does in the MD. I hope he doen't twist his ankle again.

ASP0315
03-20-2007, 11:56 PM
Dude. I like Ivo as well, but he is top 50 at best. Top 20 is madness

He is ranked 48 in the world last year before Stella and missed the grass court season.(I.e he got injured at Stella Qualies and missed Nottingham.He easiy could have won atleast 300 points from that tourny.) Plus he only played Wimbledon without any practice and lost it and lost in USO.(with only 1 warmp up tourny which he lost to Greg rusedski in New Haven. He would easily earned atleast 200 points from those warm ups i.e L.A, Washington etc.) He ,issed the entire last half of the season.(especially indoor tournaments which could have been numerous no of ranking points.) Considering all that he should a top 20 players. Do the math.

Horatio Caine
03-21-2007, 12:32 AM
He is ranked 48 in the world last year before Stella and missed the grass court season.(I.e he got injured at Stella Qualies and missed Nottingham.He easiy could have won atleast 300 points from that tourny.) Plus he only played Wimbledon without any practice and lost it and lost in USO.(with only 1 warmp up tourny which he lost to Greg rusedski in New Haven. He would easily earned atleast 200 points from those warm ups i.e L.A, Washington etc.) He ,issed the entire last half of the season.(especially indoor tournaments which could have been numerous no of ranking points.) Considering all that he should a top 20 players. Do the math.

You're deluded.

He was defending Stella points and therefore couldn't gain anymore unless he won the event. Stella offers 225pts, whilst Nottingham offers 175 pts. He therefore couldn't earn 300 pts out of those. Do the math

Ivo doesn't get the results at GS level and TMS level, which is what will be required to make top 30, let alone top 20.

He isn't really a consistent performer...he doesn't notch up consistent QF, SF etc, and loses to practically anyone. This pattern of results won't even see him crack top 30.

croat123
03-21-2007, 12:36 AM
i was at the match today...big report from all of today's matches when i get home tonight

frank was the better player for the first set, but ivo started getting more and more returns back in to play and he started pounding his forehand. his serve was crucial as always and he served his way out of some tough situations (0-30, bp, etc). he broke on a fh return winner and actually played a really good game there to get the break, with a couple of nice passing shots and netplay. he ended it on an ace.

Metis
03-21-2007, 12:53 AM
A Karlovic-Nadal 3rd round is possible :lol:

GlennMirnyi
03-21-2007, 01:03 AM
No..

I'm so pissed... A player without anything but a serve beating an up and comming player with a very, very nice game!!! I'd like to see Ivo play with an average serve to see how he would fare... He would not be close to the top 500... :rolleyes:

Serving is technique. Get your facts straight.

ASP0315
03-21-2007, 01:09 AM
Serving is technique. Get your facts straight.

Absolutely. :) Don't take FLL seriously. He is one those thug/ gansta attitude. :lol:

Loftra
03-21-2007, 01:10 AM
A Karlovic-Nadal 3rd round is possible :lol:

I'm desperate to see that. Too bad it's Ivo vs Ollie in the second round.

Fergie
03-21-2007, 01:15 AM
Well done Ivo! :bounce:

+alonso
03-21-2007, 01:25 AM
I feel sorry for Frank!

ASP0315
03-21-2007, 01:58 AM
I'm desperate to see that. Too bad it's Ivo vs Ollie in the second round.

oh man that tiny guy again. :scared: He is tough but Karlo needs to beat GGL.

Havok
03-21-2007, 02:11 AM
Frank stop fucking up!!!

Rafa = Fed Killa
03-21-2007, 02:27 AM
Frank :mad:

You gotta sort out your head.
Serving machines shouldn't beat you.

FLL
03-21-2007, 02:36 AM
Serving is technique. Get your facts straight.

When you are 6'10, you don't need a perfect technique to hit aces.. Olivier Rochus has a great technique on the serve and he serves about 30 aces during year.. Ivo does that in a match.. And have I talked about technique :confused:

FLL
03-21-2007, 02:38 AM
Absolutely. :) Don't take FLL seriously. He is one those thug/ gansta attitude. :lol:

You are the one we shouldn't take seriously.. Ivo in the top 20 :lol: You still haven't answered me about who in the top 20 could have worst results then him, ''giving'' him a spot in that top20...

FACE IT! He does suck at everything else, but the serve.. He's got a fantastic serve.

Rafa = Fed Killa
03-21-2007, 02:40 AM
Ivo is a joke.

Serving machines make tennis boring and unwatchable.

FLL
03-21-2007, 02:40 AM
:haha: I though I would get bad repped a lot, but I just checked and got 6 good rep for comments I made in this thread :lol:

GlennMirnyi
03-21-2007, 03:16 AM
When you are 6'10, you don't need a perfect technique to hit aces.. Olivier Rochus has a great technique on the serve and he serves about 30 aces during year.. Ivo does that in a match.. And have I talked about technique :confused:

Hanescu is 6'6'' and serves badly. Got a clue now? :silly:

FLL
03-21-2007, 03:39 AM
Hanescu is 6'6'' and serves badly. Got a clue now? :silly:

He is not that bad... you prove absolutly nothing with that either :lol::rolleyes:

And update of my reputation :lol: I got one more good :haha:

GlennMirnyi
03-21-2007, 04:02 AM
He is not that bad... you prove absolutly nothing with that either :lol::rolleyes:

And update of my reputation :lol: I got one more good :haha:

I'm proving that if just height made a player a good server, then he should serve well too. Logic ain't that hard.

RogiFan88
03-21-2007, 04:17 AM
Poor Frank... one day he'll get a better chance altho he did well to push Hewitt in AO... Karlovic will run out of aces soon...

FLL
03-21-2007, 04:27 AM
I'm proving that if just height made a player a good server, then he should serve well too. Logic ain't that hard.

Like everything logic, there are exceptions and maybe Hanescu is one of them but he does have a good serve..

Deboogle!.
03-21-2007, 04:47 AM
Karlo "the return" King is back. :lol: :devil: he broke twice against second biggest server on the tour last week that is Guccione. Karlo had 8 bp's in this match but only converted once. But getting 8 bp's is good achievement as his returning percantage is improving every year. It is interesting to see how e does in the MD. I hope he doen't twist his ankle again.You're forgetting the simple fact that Guccione might be the single player on tour that has less of a game outside the serve than Karlovic. At least Karlovic is a good volleyer. I saw Justin Gimelstob hand Guccione a bagel about 18 months ago. Breaking Guccione is really nothing to get that excited about :)

ASP0315
03-21-2007, 12:43 PM
You're forgetting the simple fact that Guccione might be the single player on tour that has less of a game outside the serve than Karlovic. At least Karlovic is a good volleyer. I saw Justin Gimelstob hand Guccione a bagel about 18 months ago. Breaking Guccione is really nothing to get that excited about :)

Also Chris is the second fatest server(in Speed.) His maximum speed is 153 mph.( He got that in Queens i think.) Roddick got 154 mph serve in Davis Cup.
But i have to agree Gooch is worser returner than karlo. But still Gooch had three match points against Rochus at AO this year but couldn't take them. It was painfull match for him. I watched it too.

I like both Chris and Karlo though. Atleast enjoying playing tennis.(regardless whatever thier eesults are.) When he beat hewitt at Wimby the reporter asked Karlovic that why he did'nt choose basketball and Karlovic replied that he choose tennis beacause he enjoys it. They could wasily taken Basketball and earned millions like Shaq by now. But they aren't greedy type players and avoiding fame.:devil:

Norrage
03-21-2007, 01:18 PM
Big servers most of the time have great personalities though. So that makes up for it doesnt it? ;)

sodman12
03-21-2007, 02:02 PM
Im sure by the end of the year frank will make some type of break through. I like his game and would like to watch more of him.

Minotaur
03-21-2007, 02:07 PM
Frank doesn't like to play s&v with good serve, hence he lost...

It's not about good groundtrokes, when Karlo ace you out of the court