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MIAMI - Men's Singles Draw is out

Yashirobai
03-19-2007, 06:18 PM
Link:

MS DRAW (http://www.sonyericssonopen.com/draws/msdraw.pdf)

It's so strange that no top seeds appear yet - but Rafa.

Jimnik
03-19-2007, 06:21 PM
No seeds yet?

Meeek
03-19-2007, 06:28 PM
Uhm... :scratch:

jazar
03-19-2007, 06:30 PM
how puzzling

Breakdown
03-19-2007, 06:30 PM
Omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zicofirol
03-19-2007, 06:31 PM
gaudio vs ramirez hidalgo, what piece of shit match...

R.Federer
03-19-2007, 06:31 PM
Maybe they are updating it in real time, and they've only drawn one name out of the hat. :)

Jimnik
03-19-2007, 06:31 PM
At least we know where Federer and Nadal are. :)

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 06:32 PM
:retard:

keqtqiadv
03-19-2007, 06:32 PM
:scared:

minhngoc
03-19-2007, 06:37 PM
i think this is a computer-generated draw of non-seeded players. The seeds are being drawn manually.

i don't understand why nadal's name is in the box on the top right corner though.

WatchOut
03-19-2007, 06:37 PM
Well, probably they are currently in the making of the draw, and will draw the seeds later :haha:

But Federer-Andreev could be a good match :D Off course if Andreev wins

zicofirol
03-19-2007, 06:38 PM
we know Federer will take on Querrey vs andreev matchup...

danton
03-19-2007, 06:38 PM
Oh bugger - Tims in the same section as Rodger.

stebs
03-19-2007, 06:38 PM
Another potentially tough second round match for Federer. Andreev knows how to play tennis.

Jimnik
03-19-2007, 06:42 PM
Maybe it doesn't matter. The important players, like Verkerk and Kuerten, are already in the draw. :rocker2:

Hell with the seeds, they should just play the tournament like this. I wonder who would win. :scratch:

Jaap
03-19-2007, 06:44 PM
Maybe it doesn't matter. The important players, like Verkerk and Kuerten, are already in the draw. :rocker2:

Hell with the seeds, they should just play the tournament like this. I wonder who would win. :scratch:

Nadal probably.

Allez
03-19-2007, 06:44 PM
Tough one for Rogi as usual :scared:

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 06:45 PM
#30 is empty. That's for a non-seeded player.

Agassi Aces
03-19-2007, 06:46 PM
Tim is in the same section as Roger but thats if Roger reaches that far. Andreev is tough, beat Agassi at Queens a few years back.

Jimnik
03-19-2007, 06:47 PM
Nadal probably.
Guccione will beat him in the first round.

Deivid23
03-19-2007, 06:50 PM
Tough one for Rogi as usual :scared:

Yes tough as hell, he shouldn´t even try

danton
03-19-2007, 06:51 PM
I liked Roger losing so early at IW - it made it a lot more interesting

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 06:52 PM
Tim is in the same section as Roger but thats if Roger reaches that far. Andreev is tough, beat Agassi at Queens a few years back.

And Henman will? :lol:
C'mon he lost to Hernych, don't worry for Roger ;)

Allez
03-19-2007, 06:55 PM
Yes tough as hell, he shouldn´t even try

It could have been tougher still. It could have been Canas again :eek:

bokehlicious
03-19-2007, 06:56 PM
I liked Roger losing so early at IW - it made it a lot more interesting

Not gonna happen again anytime soon, glad you enjoyed :devil: :cool:

Deivid23
03-19-2007, 06:57 PM
It could have been tougher still. It could have been Canas again :eek:

Where is exactly the toughness of a draw consisting on the likes of Starace, Querrey, Kuznetsov, Henman or Verkerk for his first 3 rounds? :scratch:

vamosnadal
03-19-2007, 06:58 PM
Federer obviously will probably win, but Andreev is one hell of a tough draw for a second round match and a bad match-up for Roger (if that even exists!) He'll need to be a lot sharper than he was in his last second round appearance to get through it, as I'm sure he will be.

Allez
03-19-2007, 06:59 PM
I liked Roger losing so early at IW - it made it a lot more interesting

I think it made it a lot more predictable. Was there any doubt that Nadal would win ? Especially after Berdych, Youzhny and Blake were bumped out ? No. I sure hope Fed is in the mix in Miami otherwise it'll be another boring Nadal exhibition :rolleyes:

FluffyYellowBall
03-19-2007, 07:01 PM
Link:

MS DRAW (http://www.sonyericssonopen.com/draws/msdraw.pdf)

It's so strange that no top seeds appear yet - but Rafa.

hes already there?? Its good if theres a big time difference. Stupid if he goes back to mallorca though.

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 07:01 PM
When does MD starts in Miami? On Friday like in IW or earlier?

R.Federer
03-19-2007, 07:02 PM
When does MD starts in Miami? On Friday like in IW or earlier?

Wednesday I think

minhngoc
03-19-2007, 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yashirobai
Link:

MS DRAW

It's so strange that no top seeds appear yet - but Rafa.

hes already there?? Its good if theres a big time difference. Stupid if he goes back to mallorca though.

Serious misunderstanding here.. lol

Deivid23
03-19-2007, 07:04 PM
Federer obviously will probably win, but Andreev is one hell of a tough draw for a second round match and a bad match-up for Roger (if that even exists!) He'll need to be a lot sharper than he was in his last second round appearance to get through it, as I'm sure he will be.

Andreev a bad match-up for Roger maybe if Federer plays left-handed, if not, he will be safe

FluffyYellowBall
03-19-2007, 07:04 PM
y arent the seeds written?

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 07:04 PM
Wednesday I think

Thanks :)

chrison
03-19-2007, 07:05 PM
I guess one of the top seeds withdrew suddenly.

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 07:07 PM
I guess one of the top seeds withdrew suddenly.

Yeah, possibly. That's not Federer coz then Nadal would be #1. But prossible one of top10 seeded players withdrew.

sdtoot
03-19-2007, 07:09 PM
Somebody's thrown a spanner in the works and they're trying to figure it out!!

vamosnadal
03-19-2007, 07:10 PM
Andreev a bad match-up for Roger maybe if Federer plays left-handed, if not, he will be safe

As I said, I'm sure Roger will absolutely sail though, but Andreev is a tough player who is very fast and plays with a lot of topspin, which I don't think the Fedster especially enjoys playing against. Lokking through the names on the sheet I think he's one of the toughest guys to get for your second round match.

vamosnadal
03-19-2007, 07:11 PM
I guess one of the top seeds withdrew suddenly.

If so, maybe Andy Murray after his problems over the weekend?

darrinbaker00
03-19-2007, 07:12 PM
Yeah, possibly. That's not Federer coz then Nadal would be #1. But prossible one of top10 seeded players withdrew.
Not necessarily. Depending on exactly when Federer withdrew, IF it is indeed Federer who withdrew, maybe they'll leave Nadal where he is and slot the #33 seed in Federer's slot at the top.

Burrow
03-19-2007, 07:16 PM
I liked Roger losing so early at IW - it made it a lot more interesting

As much as I like Roger, I agree, it did make it alot more interesting. Canas should have done alot better.

RonE
03-19-2007, 07:20 PM
WTF?? This draw has more holes in it than R=FK's logic.

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 07:23 PM
Federer lost to Canas, lost one match after a long time, and now even Andreev is dangerous for him :rolleyes: Fed will most probably win Miami

Fergie
03-19-2007, 07:23 PM
WTF?? This draw has more holes in it than R=FK's logic.

:lol:

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 07:24 PM
Not necessarily. Depending on exactly when Federer withdrew, IF it is indeed Federer who withdrew, maybe they'll leave Nadal where he is and slot the #33 seed in Federer's slot at the top.

Yeah, that's possible too, but i agree with other member that there's a big possibility Murray withdrew. I don't see a reason why Federer would.

nobama
03-19-2007, 07:25 PM
Tough one for Rogi as usual :scared:Oh stop with the :scared:. If you're really a Fed fan I should think you'd have more faith in him than that. Or does one early loss send you under the covers?

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 07:27 PM
I don't know what would be more fun, if fed lost in the first round or if he made it to the final and we had a Fed/nadal match up again and rafa won.

uglyamerican
03-19-2007, 07:27 PM
Malisse would have been seeded. I don't know what the timing of his exit was.

Also, Fish, Calleri, and Wawrkina are out.

mangoes
03-19-2007, 07:30 PM
I liked Roger losing so early at IW - it made it a lot more interesting

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: It did huh?? Let's see.........Roger goes out, next favorite to win is???.................. Nadal. And guess what.........NADAL WON!!

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 07:30 PM
That #30 is empty, so i'm 99% sure some seeded player withdrew.

Allez
03-19-2007, 07:30 PM
Oh stop with the :scared:. If you're really a Fed fan I should think you'd have more faith in him than that. Or does one early loss send you under the covers?

Oh please. If you're really a Fed fan, by now you should know that he almost always struggles in the opening rounds. He almost lost to Suzuki damn it!

nobama
03-19-2007, 07:31 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: It did huh?? Let's see.........Roger goes out, next favorite to win is???.................. Nadal. And guess what.........NADAL WON!!Yep it sure is a crap shoot when Roger goes out early, isn't it?

nobama
03-19-2007, 07:33 PM
Oh please. If you're really a Fed fan, by now you should know that he almost always struggles in the opening rounds. He almost lost to Suzuki damn it!Then it doesn't much matter who he draws does it? I think you panic to easily when it comes to Fed.

uglyamerican
03-19-2007, 07:36 PM
That #30 is empty, so i'm 99% sure some seeded player withdrew.

I don't know what's going on. Simon is the highest ranked player w/o a seed. So that means the seeding line dropped 5 spots. Ancic, Fish, Calleri, Wawrinka and Malisse are all supposed to be out. So what's the problem? If there was a 6th withdrawl, then Simon would not be in the draw already.

Maybe they didn't process those 5 withdrawls in enough time.

Skyward
03-19-2007, 07:36 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: It did huh?? Let's see.........Roger goes out, next favorite to win is???.................. Nadal. And guess what.........NADAL WON!!

On top of that, neither the sfs nor the final were exciting or dramatic, just regular straight set beatdowns.

danton
03-19-2007, 07:36 PM
My understanding is Murray is playing and is hoping for a Friday start.

vamosnadal
03-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Federer lost to Canas, lost one match after a long time, and now even Andreev is dangerous for him :rolleyes: Fed will most probably win Miami

If you're responding to my post, I said in both of my posts that Federer will more than likely sail through against him. I was just saying that out of everyone he could have been drawn against, Andreev is a tough opponent. I would have said that if Fed had have won IW as well. I'm sure Fed probably will win Miami. I may have Nadal in my name, but I'm not anti Federer and nor am I criticising him or even suggesting he's suddenly easily beatable - we all know last week was just a very rare blip! :)

greatkingrat
03-19-2007, 07:39 PM
That #30 is empty, so i'm 99% sure some seeded player withdrew.

The only non-seed missing from the draw is Benjamin Becker. I guess he must have pulled out and the empty #30 will go to a lucky loser. If a seed had withdrawn then the #33 seed would be Gilles Simon.

uglyamerican
03-19-2007, 07:40 PM
The only non-seed missing from the draw is Benjamin Becker. I guess he must have pulled out and the empty #30 will go to a lucky loser. If a seed had withdrawn then the #33 seed would be Gilles Simon.

I've got it now. You must be right.:cool:

Allez
03-19-2007, 07:41 PM
Then it doesn't much matter who he draws does it? I think you panic to easily when it comes to Fed.

It does matter! If he draws a Suzuki he might get away with not playing his best. Evidently not so against the Canas' of this world. Though I must say I was so sure he'd beat Canas. The one time I'm not "worried" about a Rogi match is the one time he goes an loses unexpectedly...So you never know. Every match is a new match.;)

Jim Courier
03-19-2007, 07:41 PM
It was far from certain Nadal would win, considering his AO and Dubai form on hard. Honestly after Dubai i didn't think he was going to get in a final before clay season.

Some people have short memories, after Dubai they were saying Nadal was going to drop from his 2nd ranking, but one title and Nadal winning was a certainty as soon as Federer lost..

mallorn
03-19-2007, 07:44 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: It did huh?? Let's see.........Roger goes out, next favorite to win is???.................. Nadal. And guess what.........NADAL WON!!
Umm Sheryl? You do know it was Rafa's first title since RG, right? ;)


WTH is going on with the draw?! :confused: The least they could do is to put Roger in it, it's not like they don't know where to put him. :shrug:

atheneglaukopis
03-19-2007, 07:46 PM
Looks like Toni and Mirka are deadlocked, with no resolution in sight. :boxing: :devil:

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 07:48 PM
The only non-seed missing from the draw is Benjamin Becker. I guess he must have pulled out and the empty #30 will go to a lucky loser. If a seed had withdrawn then the #33 seed would be Gilles Simon.
I wasn't looking at who's missing, but if you were then you're right :) So, that Becker's place should go to a LL, and that empty #30 doesn't have anything to do with seedings. But it still is possible that one seeded player withdrew.

If you're responding to my post, I said in both of my posts that Federer will more than likely sail through against him. I was just saying that out of everyone he could have been drawn against, Andreev is a tough opponent. I would have said that if Fed had have won IW as well. I'm sure Fed probably will win Miami. I may have Nadal in my name, but I'm not anti Federer and nor am I criticising him or even suggesting he's suddenly easily beatable - we all know last week was just a very rare blip! :)

I wasn't responding just to your post. More people said that Andreev could be a bad match-up for FedEx and that it is again a hard draw for Roger. I disagree with that, coz i think that loss to Canas doesn't mean that his game is weaker now, and i think there's a huge possibility that he'll win Miami.

Allez
03-19-2007, 07:50 PM
It was far from certain Nadal would win, considering his AO and Dubai form on hard. Honestly after Dubai i didn't think he was going to get in a final before clay season.

Some people have short memories, after Dubai they were saying Nadal was going to drop from his 2nd ranking, but one title and Nadal winning was a certainty as soon as Federer lost..

When Berdych, Youzhny and Blake went out who else might have been expected to challenge Nadal :shrug:

case
03-19-2007, 07:50 PM
to get back to the draw.

does anyone have a clue when the entire draw will b e completed?

mashamaniac
03-19-2007, 07:52 PM
i love this draw that no one of hard-fighters are in rafa's side!! unless those crap empty places give him a tough draw!
btw-hope andy's gonna be drawn into roger's side as he'd get his own avenge over him maybe in the semis!

explicit
03-19-2007, 07:52 PM
Looks like Toni and Mirka are deadlocked, with no resolution in sight. :boxing: :devil:

:haha:

Corey Feldman
03-19-2007, 07:52 PM
I think Querrey would beat Andreev.

Or Levy
03-19-2007, 07:53 PM
I'm kinda freaking, why is Roger still missing?!

Regenbogen
03-19-2007, 08:00 PM
Are they ever going to update it again? :help:

NicoFan
03-19-2007, 08:03 PM
I was there in Miami for the draw last year.

Took them forever to complete it. I thought they'd never get it up on the board.

Maybe it's the heat in Miami because they worked in slooooowwww motion.

The Daviator
03-19-2007, 08:07 PM
The women's draw has been out for almost an hour, I don't know what the hold up is :shrug:

Louche
03-19-2007, 08:08 PM
Florida presidential election in 2000. They have trouble with these kinds of things.

Ome
03-19-2007, 08:09 PM
http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2007/403/mds.pdf :)

nobama
03-19-2007, 08:14 PM
http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2007/403/mds.pdf :)There's no draw there. :scratch:

mallorn
03-19-2007, 08:15 PM
There's no draw there. :scratch:
Yes there is. :scratch:

atheneglaukopis
03-19-2007, 08:17 PM
Yes there is. :scratch:It's an invisible draw! :D

mallorn
03-19-2007, 08:18 PM
It's an invisible draw! :D
You really can't see it? I can. :shrug:

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 08:19 PM
I see it :)

Deathless Mortal
03-19-2007, 08:19 PM
Simon is seeded 32 :shrug:

Regenbogen
03-19-2007, 08:19 PM
You really can't see it? I can. :shrug:

I didn't see it the first time I clicked it. Then it appeared! :D

Fergie
03-19-2007, 08:20 PM
You really can't see it? I can. :shrug:

I can too ;)

Johnny Groove
03-19-2007, 08:20 PM
You really can't see it? I can. :shrug:

i can see it too :banana:

johnemms2003
03-19-2007, 08:20 PM
Miami masters (http://triplematchpoint.com./story.php?title=Miami-Master-Draw) draw is out and Fed avoids Roddick, Blake and Gonzo. Not that it mattered. :)

artlinkletter
03-19-2007, 08:21 PM
Yikes! Blake, Youzny, Safin, Djokovic, and Baghdatis all in Nadals QUARTER! Not to mention Gonzalez, Hewitt, Murray, and Roddick in his half.

Klaas_nalbandian
03-19-2007, 08:21 PM
mardy verkerk won't stand a chance against sebastien

atheneglaukopis
03-19-2007, 08:22 PM
You really can't see it? I can. :shrug:I couldn't see it the first three times I clicked on it. Fourth time was the charm.

vamosnadal
03-19-2007, 08:22 PM
Youzhny and Blake in Nadal's quarter again, although Safin and Baghdatis could take them out before they get to Rafa. I'd quite like Rafa to face them though, as I think he is in the form to get the wins. However, I'd LOVE to see a Nadal-Safin quarter final.

zicofirol
03-19-2007, 08:23 PM
nevermind, didnt see thel ink posted...

I think its a balnced draw, Baghdatis-Youhzny could be a good matchup...

uglyamerican
03-19-2007, 08:23 PM
Simon is seeded 32 :shrug:

Looks like Soderling was the other withdrawl.

mallorn
03-19-2007, 08:23 PM
Looks like Toni and Mirka are deadlocked, with no resolution in sight. :boxing: :devil:
Looks like Mirka knocked Toni out. :boxing: :devil:

:lol:

johnemms2003
03-19-2007, 08:25 PM
Opps. It seems somebody already got it. Oh well. Murray, Gonzo, Roddick, Hewitt, Blake, .... all in Nadal's quarter + Youzhny. I'd say the tournament is already a success.

nobama
03-19-2007, 08:25 PM
Looks like Mirka knocked Toni out. :boxing: :devil:

:lol:Nah, he's just a gentleman and didn't feel it was right to fight with a pretty young lady. :)

Adler
03-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Look where's Youzhny and Blake. Next chance for Rafa to exorcise some demons

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 08:26 PM
That's fine with me, it's time for revenge. I think this tourney should be a tennis documentary.

Piggy roasters- revenge is mine

Loremaster
03-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Could someone post it? please my cell got formatted and can't read pdf

zicofirol
03-19-2007, 08:26 PM
who is/are the withdrawls?

Allez
03-19-2007, 08:29 PM
Ah I wish Berdych could have been in Nadal's quarter as well...

mallorn
03-19-2007, 08:30 PM
Nah, he's just a gentleman and didn't feel it was right to fight with a pretty young lady. :)
Of course. :)


:secret: In fact, there was never a contest, Toni is in Mallorca. :sad: ;)

case
03-19-2007, 08:31 PM
gasquet gets another terrible draw

mallorn
03-19-2007, 08:32 PM
Ah I wish Berdych could have been in Nadal's quarter as well...
Here's a thought - why don't they put ALL the seeds except for Roger in Rafa's quarter at the next tournament? The tourney will be so interesting and unpredictable then. :D

jenanun
03-19-2007, 08:32 PM
hope we can still see 2005 finalists in this year final......

mangoes
03-19-2007, 08:33 PM
Gasquet gets unlucky again!! :sad: :sad:

Umm Sheryl? You do know it was Rafa's first title since RG, right? ;)


:lol: :lol: To reference the most famous player of the "new balls" generation..........no. 1 = Favorite to win tournaments on clay. Therefore, no. 2 player in the world = 2nd favorite to win tournaments :lol: :lol:

Looks like Toni and Mirka are deadlocked, with no resolution in sight. :boxing: :devil:
:haha: :haha:

Looks like Mirka knocked Toni out. :boxing: :devil:



:haha: About Time :haha:

Now, let's hope Uncle Toni doesn't work the same magic on Youzhny and Blake as he did in IW:ras: :ras: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Black Adam
03-19-2007, 08:33 PM
Miami masters (http://triplematchpoint.com./story.php?title=Miami-Master-Draw) draw is out and Fed avoids Roddick, Blake and Gonzo. Not that it mattered. :)
More like they have avoided Federer;)

FluffyYellowBall
03-19-2007, 08:33 PM
Should be interesting to see what nadals gonna do in this form against his demons

Merton
03-19-2007, 08:33 PM
I think Querrey would beat Andreev.

I think so too. In any case, both Querrey and Andreev should be easy pray for Roger.

Youzhny and Blake in Nadal's quarter again, although Safin and Baghdatis could take them out before they get to Rafa. I'd quite like Rafa to face them though, as I think he is in the form to get the wins. However, I'd LOVE to see a Nadal-Safin quarter final.

Safin usually plays crap in these American spring hardcourt tournaments. I actually expect Djokovic to make the quarters from this part of the draw. On the other hand, I would not be too shocked if Nadal loses early here.

jenanun
03-19-2007, 08:34 PM
safin will beat blake!

bagdatis will beat youzhney....

hewitt will beat gonzo!

so no problem to rafa!

all the way into the final!

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2007/403/mds.pdf

sampaio
03-19-2007, 08:34 PM
gasquet gets another terrible draw

Grosjean/Ferrero/Federer greaaaat:rolleyes:
so usual

nobama
03-19-2007, 08:35 PM
Here's a thought - why don't they put ALL the seeds except for Roger in Rafa's quarter at the next tournament? The tourney will be so interesting and unpredictable then. :D:lol:

Allez
03-19-2007, 08:35 PM
Here's a thought - why don't they put ALL the seeds except for Roger in Rafa's quarter at the next tournament? The tourney will be so interesting and unpredictable then. :D

Didn't mean it like that. I just enjoy watching the rivalry between the two. There's drama whenever they play each other. I wouldn't mind swapping Blake for Berdych in that quarter!

mallorn
03-19-2007, 08:35 PM
:lol: :lol: To reference the most famous player of the "new balls" generation..........no. 1 = Favorite to win tournaments on clay. Therefore, no. 2 player in the world = 2nd favorite to win tournaments :lol: :lol: :lol:
Favourite does not equal winner, as we saw in Cinci, Stockholm, Chennai and Sydney. :sad: ;)

case
03-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Grosjean/Ferrero/Federer greaaaat:rolleyes:
so usual

next week theyll be writing gaquet off as a has been who never was...
:rolleyes:

mangoes
03-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Here's a thought - why don't they put ALL the seeds except for Roger in Rafa's quarter at the next tournament? The tourney will be so interesting and unpredictable then. :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: So sweet of you to offer Ania:hug: But, we only want Berdych, Gonzo, Blake and Youzhny in Rafa's half. We'll generously take the others you don't want....:lol: :lol: And you can throw in Canas:devil:


Favourite does not equal winner, as we saw in Cinci, Stockholm, Chennai and Sydney. :sad: ;)

:shrug: Sorry??...........:lol: :lol: :lol: I'm just being naughty this afternoon:lol: :lol:

Yappa
03-19-2007, 08:37 PM
Looks like Haas will already meet Federer in the QF? :(
Could somebody please post a text version?

scoobs
03-19-2007, 08:37 PM
Text version

[1] Federer vs BYE
Andreev vs [WC] Querrey
[WC] Kuznetsov vs Starace
BYE vs [29] Almagro

[19] Ferrero vs BYE
Henman vs [Q]
Verkerk vs Grosjean
BYE vs [15] Gasquet

[9] Haas vs BYE
Roitman vs Kohlschreiber
Ramirez Hidalgo vs Gaudio
BYE vs [24] Stepanek

[28] Verdasco vs BYE
Kunitsyn vs Mayer
[Q] vs Becker
BYE vs [6] Robredo


[4] Davydenko vs BYE
Udomchoke vs Greul
[Q] vs Benneteau
BYE vs [31] Acasuso

[23] Chela vs BYE
Tipsarevic vs [Q]
Montanes vs Clement
BYE vs [14] Berdych

[11] Nalbandian vs BYE
Ginepri vs Spadea
[Q] vs Gicquel
BYE vs [20] Nieminen

[27] Moya vs BYE
C Rochus vs Santoro
Mahut vs Volandri
BYE vs [7] Ljubicic

----------------------------------------

[5] Gonzalez vs BYE
[WC] Johansson vs Martin
Vliegen vs Mathieu
BYE vs [26] Melzer

[18] Hewitt vs BYE
[WC] Kuerten vs [Q]
Goldstein vs [WC] Sweeting
BYE vs [12] Murray

[13] Ferrer vs BYE
Monaco vs [Q]
[Q] vs Monfils
BYE vs [21] Tursunov

[32] Simon vs BYE
Srichaphan vs Horna
Vassallo Arguello vs Lee
BYE vs [3] Roddick


[8] Blake vs BYE
[Q] vs Serra
Massu vs Simon
BYE vs [b][25] Safin

[22] Hrbaty vs BYE
Koubek vs Llodra
Mirnyi vs Bracciali
BYE vs [10] Djokovic

[16] Youzhny vs BYE
Hajek vs [Q]
Del Potro vs Bjorkman
BYE vs [17] Baghdatis

[30] Rochus vs BYE
[Q] vs Garcia-Lopez
Hernych vs [Q]
BYE vs [2] Nadal

gusman890
03-19-2007, 08:40 PM
LOL Blake vs Safin in 3rd round.

guga2120
03-19-2007, 08:40 PM
some good matchups early on, Kuerten vs Hewitt.
Safin i do think will beat Blake.
Federer i think will no doubt get to the final, i just hope Rafa plays well again b/c i want a Nadal/Fed final.

and i think Marcos will beat Youzhny

johnemms2003
03-19-2007, 08:41 PM
Dream on Buddy. Bagman will lose his 2nd rounder. It's Youzhny all the way to Mallorca man! I'd be surprised if Nadal shows up to get his butt kicked in a best of 5 match against the Feds.

Murraymaniac
03-19-2007, 08:41 PM
Looking at the draw from a Murray fan's perspective:

Providing Andy is 100% fit, then I can see him making the SFs again. Roddick and Gonzalez are very beatable prospects - would love to see him face Rafa in the SFs. :devil: Hewitt might be a tough proposition too depending on his consistency.

Nole has a pretty easy draw too. :) Blakey is nowhere near his best right now.

mallorn
03-19-2007, 08:42 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: So sweet of you to offer Ania:hug: But, we only want Berdych, Gonzo, Blake and Youzhny in Rafa's half. We'll generously take the others :lol: :lol: And you can throw in Canas:devil:
Well so far you got three quarters of your wish. :p And isn't Canas qualifying? Rafa could still get him in R2. :unsure:

Allez
03-19-2007, 08:43 PM
It would also have been nice for Haas to be in the bottom half :devil:

Jim Courier
03-19-2007, 08:45 PM
Look where's Youzhny and Blake. Next chance for Rafa to exorcise some demons
Blake has to beat Djokovic first, i would be surprised if he did.

GlennMirnyi
03-19-2007, 08:45 PM
I hope this time Youzhny isn't tired.

guga2120
03-19-2007, 08:45 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: So sweet of you to offer Ania:hug: But, we only want Berdych, Gonzo, Blake and Youzhny in Rafa's half. We'll generously take the others you don't want....:lol: :lol: And you can throw in Canas:devil:




if Nadal plays the way he just did, Gonzo and Berdshit are no problem, now Youzhny yeah, and especially Blake can beat him.

mangoes
03-19-2007, 08:46 PM
Well so far you got three quarters of your wish. :p And isn't Canas qualifying? Rafa could still get him in R2. :unsure:

Well, we're willing to take him. Roger has some business to take care of with Canas:devil: :lol: :lol:
Roger:hug: doesn't hide or try to avoid players:angel: :angel:


if Nadal plays the way he just did, Gonzo and Berdshit are no problem, now Youzhny yeah, and especially Blake can beat him.

SERIOUS ANSWER

I agree that Gonzo will most likely not pose any problems for Rafa. But, Berdych is a different story.

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 08:46 PM
if Nadal plays the way he just did, Gonzo and Berdshit are no problem, now Youzhny yeah, and especially Blake can beat him.

:worship:

DDrago2
03-19-2007, 08:47 PM
I like it this draw, many potential match-ups to look forward to!

Federer has a good draw apart from tough 2nd round against Andreev

Unlike that Nadal has a bad draw, no? 4th round Youznhy/Baghdatis probably (I don't know how well he matches up with O.Rochus who he plays in 3rd round), then Blake/Safin/Djokovic/Hrbaty probably, and from the other side comes Gonzales/Murray/Roddick QF. It's almost a nighmare draw for him actualy, but surface favours him so he could even use the chance to get a few monkeys off his back

GlennMirnyi
03-19-2007, 08:48 PM
if Nadal plays the way he just did, Gonzo and Berdshit are no problem, now Youzhny yeah, and especially Blake can beat him.

:haha: All offensive just because Berdych owns your moonballer. :lol:

Gonzalez and Berdych will crush Nadal if they face him.

Kitty de Sade
03-19-2007, 08:48 PM
Blake has to beat Djokovic first, i would be surprised if he did.

True enough- Blake is not exactly on a roll these days.

Allez
03-19-2007, 08:48 PM
if Nadal plays the way he just did, Gonzo and Berdshit are no problem, now Youzhny yeah, and especially Blake can beat him.

Not so sure about that. The Bird shat on Nadal in front of his home crowd last year :tape: His game is too big for Nadal. Too big :yeah:

Sunset of Age
03-19-2007, 08:50 PM
I like it this draw, many potential match-ups to look forward to!

Federer has a good draw apart from tough 2nd round against Andreev

Unlike that Nadal has a bad draw, no? 4th round Youznhy/Baghdatis probably (I don't know how well he matches up with O.Rochus who he plays in 3rd round), then Blake/Safin/Djokovic/Hrbaty probably, and from the other side comes Gonzales/Murray/Roddick QF. It's almost a nighmare draw for him actualy, but surface favours him so he could even use the chance to get a few monkeys off his back

Theoretically, yes. But don't count out the possibility that all of Raf's Angstgegner kill off each other beforehand again, just like it happened at IW!
In that case - please, please, PLEASE - A Fed - Raf final!!! :worship:

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 08:51 PM
Only thing we can say is we will see.

Doubters beware and it's not like birdman has been playing all that great lately

So if nadal shows up ready to roast the roasters then I don't see him leaving this tourney with any type of pain in his ass.

GlennMirnyi
03-19-2007, 08:51 PM
Not so sure about that. The Bird shat on Nadal in front of his home crowd last year :tape: His game is too big for Nadal. Too big :yeah:

He's just heartbroken about that ownage. :lol:

GlennMirnyi
03-19-2007, 08:52 PM
Only thing we can say is we will see.

Doubters beware and it's not like birdman has been playing all that great lately

So if nadal shows up ready to roast the roasters then I don't see him leaving this tourney with any type of pain in his ass.

If I were Greek I'd report all your posts for offending them. :dance:

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 08:52 PM
He's just heartbroken about that ownage. :lol:

Damn right, and nothing fuels passion for revenge like angst.

Vammosss rafa

I don't like birds anyway

danton
03-19-2007, 08:53 PM
I think murray has a tough draw with Hewitt and then Gonzales, the Roddick if it all goes to seeds. On the plus side he's beaten all of them.

Rafa = Fed Killa
03-19-2007, 08:53 PM
Gotta finish off Youzhny to exorcize his demons.

mangoes
03-19-2007, 08:54 PM
:haha: All offensive just because Berdych owns your moonballer. :lol:

Gonzalez and Berdych will crush Nadal if they face him.


I think one of the best things Berdych can do for his game is to start imagining that each of his opponents is Nadal. For some reason, he puts more "umpt" into his matches against Nadal.

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 08:54 PM
Gotta finish off Youzhny to exorcize his demons.

It will happen, rafa smells the fear and is going in for the kill

nobama
03-19-2007, 08:55 PM
Not so sure about that. The Bird shat on Nadal in front of his home crowd last year :tape: His game is too big for Nadal. Too big :yeah:But not to big for others as was proven in IW. :o

mallorn
03-19-2007, 08:55 PM
Well, we're willing to take him. Roger has some business to take care of with Canas:devil: :lol: :lol:
Well I hope you do get him then. :) :angel: :angel:
Roger:hug: doesn't hide or try to avoid players:angel: :angel:
As opposed to...?

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 08:55 PM
Berdie is a loser, but I'm glad so many people put so much faith in the fact that he will be the one to take Nadal out. I think out of everyone Berdie has the best chance of getting rip a new one from Nadal.

He actually respect Youzney and Blake.

Gonzo and Berdshit are the ones he will take exceptional pleasure in killing and grilling

Bring it on

vamooosss

GlennMirnyi
03-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Damn right, and nothing fuels passion for revenge like angst.

Vammosss rafa

I don't like birds anyway

He'll be schooled again and again by Berdych.

RonE
03-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Well the roasters again seem to be scattered in Nadal's section but there is no guarantee they will actually make it far enough to play him- look what happened at IW.

Kitty de Sade
03-19-2007, 08:56 PM
I think one of the best things Berdych can do for his game is to start imagining that each of his opponents is Nadal. For some reason, he puts more "umpt" into his matches against Nadal.

Agreed. I'd like to see a rematch between these two. ;)

GlennMirnyi
03-19-2007, 08:57 PM
Well I hope you do get him then. :) :angel: :angel:

As opposed to...?

Nadal, a sore loser that never gives credits to other players (always loses because of injuries) and retires when he's faced with certain defeat.

Sunset of Age
03-19-2007, 08:58 PM
Well the roasters again seem to be scattered in Nadal's section but there is no guarantee they will actually make it far enough to play him- look what happened at IW.

Yes, destructing each other first, like in IW - not unlike the Orcs in the Tower of Cirith Ungol! :mad:

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 08:59 PM
Yes, destructing each other first, like in IW - not unlike the Orcs in the Tower of Cirith Ungol! :mad:

Yes that's what we will call the roasters orcs hahaha. I think collectively they have the same amount of brain cells as one.

mangoes
03-19-2007, 09:00 PM
But not to big for others as was proven in IW. :o

:o Most of the time, the "others" don't even have to show up for the match. Berdych takes care of himself for them:mad:




As opposed to...?

:angel: :angel: General Observation..................:lol: :lol: :lol:

Allez
03-19-2007, 09:01 PM
Berdie is a loser, but I'm glad so many people put so much faith in the fact that he will be the one to take Nadal out. I think out of everyone Berdie has the best chance of getting rip a new one from Nadal.

He actually respect Youzney and Blake.

Gonzo and Berdshit are the ones he will take exceptional pleasure in killing and grilling

Bring it on

vamooosss
Too bad the bird will not have the pleasure of shitting on Nadal once more in Miami. He's on the other half :mad: The earliest that Berdych can bitch-slap Nadal again is after RG :sad:

Yappa
03-19-2007, 09:02 PM
Thx for the text version, scoobs. :)

mallorn
03-19-2007, 09:06 PM
Nadal, a sore loser that never gives credits to other players (always loses because of injuries) and retires when he's faced with certain defeat.
:yawn:

Loremaster
03-19-2007, 09:07 PM
I can see another SF for Andy up to QF it is piece of cake then only Murray is serious problem I know that gonzo can play but he lacks form recently and murray wont be 100% he has problems with back2back tournies especially with such heat

mallorn
03-19-2007, 09:08 PM
:angel: :angel: General Observation..................:lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh don't be so mysterious, you little angel you. :p

Jlee
03-19-2007, 09:09 PM
I like the draw! I see some interesting match ups from the beginning of the seeds do better at this tourney than they did at the last one.

brent-o
03-19-2007, 09:11 PM
I think it made it a lot more predictable. Was there any doubt that Nadal would win ? Especially after Berdych, Youzhny and Blake were bumped out ? No. I sure hope Fed is in the mix in Miami otherwise it'll be another boring Nadal exhibition :rolleyes:

how did it make it MORE predictable? Roger winning nearly every tournament he's in isn't predicatble? Btw, I'm wonder how many people "predicted" Djokovic to be in the final.

Jim Courier
03-19-2007, 09:11 PM
Gonzalez and Berdych will crush Nadal if they face him.
If Gonzalez and Nadal meet it probably will be after Nadal beats Youzhny, in which case I would like Nadal's chances. The AO match means nothing if Nadal plays at his IW form. He's been doing much less UEs and his serve is much better.
As for Berdych if i'm reading the draw right he has to beat Federer first..

Merton
03-19-2007, 09:14 PM
Well the roasters again seem to be scattered in Nadal's section but there is no guarantee they will actually make it far enough to play him- look what happened at IW.

Actually it is quite possible that Marcos will take out Youzhny and Djokovic will take out Blake. However, it is also possible that Nadal will lose to Hernych or Rochus, getting an additional week to start hitting on clay.

Merton
03-19-2007, 09:15 PM
Pame Marcos and Tomas :rocker:

RonE
03-19-2007, 09:16 PM
Actually it is quite possible that Marcos will take out Youzhny and Djokovic will take out Blake. However, it is also possible that Nadal will lose to Hernych or Rochus, getting an additional week to start hitting on clay.

There is no way Rafa is tanking this- not now after he has finally snapped the title drought and got his game back in the groove.

Allez
03-19-2007, 09:20 PM
how did it make it MORE predictable? Roger winning nearly every tournament he's in isn't predicatble? Btw, I'm wonder how many people "predicted" Djokovic to be in the final.
It made it more predictable because with Federer, Berdych, Blake and Youzhny out, none of the remaining players could have caused Nadal major headaches as evidence by him not dropping a set the whole tourney. If Federer had made it to the final no one would have been able to predict who'd win that contest. ;)

Merton
03-19-2007, 09:20 PM
There is no way Rafa is tanking this- not now after he has finally snapped the title drought and got his game back in the groove.

I am not saying he is tanking. I don't believe he tanked last year against Moya. However it is normal to start thinking about clay, and this is a situation where his #2 rank is safe and he does not threaten the #1 rank either, so points might not be a motivation either.

RonE
03-19-2007, 09:25 PM
I am not saying he is tanking. I don't believe he tanked last year against Moya. However it is normal to start thinking about clay, and this is a situation where his #2 rank is safe and he does not threaten the #1 rank either, so points might not be a motivation either.

Still, I can't see him losing to either Hernych or Rochus :shrug:

richie21
03-19-2007, 09:26 PM
gasquet gets another terrible draw

yeah after Roddick in 1/8 final last week,he'll probably get Federer in 1/8 final this week.......GREAT!:o

vamosnadal
03-19-2007, 09:28 PM
I am not saying he is tanking. I don't believe he tanked last year against Moya. However it is normal to start thinking about clay, and this is a situation where his #2 rank is safe and he does not threaten the #1 rank either, so points might not be a motivation either.


He's got Davis Cup before he can even think of the clay. I think, as always, he'll try his best to go very far in the tournament. Especially as he's got no points to defend so it's his chance to get a bit of a cushion before the clay season and also I think he'd want to continue his good form before the America match. Also I don't think he's capable of not putting everything into his matches, and too professional.

mangoes
03-19-2007, 09:28 PM
Still, I can't see him losing to either Hernych or Rochus :shrug:

I agree, I don't see that happening either.

vesanto
03-19-2007, 09:30 PM
Well, Rafa didn't have a great draw...Youzhny, Blake, Gonzalez are his nightmare but they might lose before he plays them and still valuable players such as Hewitt, Roddick, Safin, Djokovic, Murray and Baghdatis (altough I think none of these would give him problems).

Federer's draw includes Haas, Gasquet, Nalbandian, Ljubicic e Davydenko. I think it is well distributed because these players can cause him more problems (if he has another bad day).

Johnny Groove
03-19-2007, 09:34 PM
"Nadal" and "tank" shouldnt be used together.

Its like "GlennMirnyi" and "sensible arguments"

Neither have anything to do with the other

gebl
03-19-2007, 09:37 PM
"Nadal" and "tank" shouldnt be used together.

Its like "GlennMirnyi" and "sensible arguments"

Neither have anything to do with the other

:yeah: :haha: :haha:

RogiFan88
03-19-2007, 09:58 PM
Rafa winning IW going into Miami w no pts to defend and all to gain -- couldn't have asked for a better scenario. Perfect timing just before his special season. ;)

nobama
03-19-2007, 10:00 PM
Rafa winning IW going into Miami w no pts to defend and all to gain -- couldn't have asked for a better scenario. Perfect timing just before his special season. ;)He had nothing to defend at AO either. And a lot of people predicting he would be in the finals. :shrug:

jenanun
03-19-2007, 10:01 PM
"Nadal" and "tank" shouldnt be used together.

Its like "GlennMirnyi" and "sensible arguments"

Neither have anything to do with the other

:yeah: ;)

nadal is full of confidence now that he doesnt really have to worry about the draw too much, just focus on himself and play his best tennis, then no one can really stop him the way into the final...

MaryWalsh
03-19-2007, 10:02 PM
I like this draw. A lot of interesting match-ups. It will be interesting to see where Canas winds up.

Apemant
03-19-2007, 10:48 PM
Damn right, and nothing fuels passion for revenge like angst.

Vammosss rafa

I don't like birds anyway

I absolutely adore birds. Aren't they beautiful? I have a falcon on my desktop...

On the other hand, I do like pigs too. They are so intelligent actually! More so than dogs for example. I have this video of a cute little pig doing things you can't believe they can do, like maneuvring a ball around some sticks and scoring a goal. Really incredible. And yes, I do consider Rafa rather intelligent, even though he can't really speak proper english. (Pigs don't talk english either :devil: )

Metis
03-19-2007, 10:51 PM
Tsk, tsk, tsk! Another cupcake draw for Federer at least until the semis. :p

ranaldo
03-19-2007, 11:28 PM
As far as Roger is concerned he outta reassure himself with a 62 63 score otherwise he might be in doubt until Wimbledon.
I think if Djokovic doesn't shit on himself he might be able to trouble Nadal a little bit more. Blake beat Nadal last year but he's not in any form this year. Berdych is also struggling big time. Roddick is still figuring out how to hit volleys on abouttennis.com. So, pretty easy half for Nadal considering how well he's playing.
But watch out for Youzhny;).

Snowwy
03-19-2007, 11:46 PM
Hewitt vs Murrey in the 3rd round
Blake vs Safin in the 3rd round

:):):)

aramis
03-19-2007, 11:48 PM
I really want to see a Federer-Ferrero 4rth round. Not that JC has much of a chance, but they are my two favorite players and they haven't played each other for 2 years! Come on JC, just win two matches and it will happen!

Actually, now that I look at his draw, he would most likely have to beat Henman and Gasquet to make it to the 4rth round. Curses!

adee-gee
03-20-2007, 12:00 AM
Fairly happy with the draw :smoke:

kobulingam
03-20-2007, 12:32 AM
I hope Nadal skips DC if he goes deep into Miami. No need to overwork now. He needs to peak for RG/Wimbledon.

GlennMirnyi
03-20-2007, 12:47 AM
If Gonzalez and Nadal meet it probably will be after Nadal beats Youzhny, in which case I would like Nadal's chances. The AO match means nothing if Nadal plays at his IW form. He's been doing much less UEs and his serve is much better.
As for Berdych if i'm reading the draw right he has to beat Federer first..

What you think is a "better Nadal" is just a fluke. He faced a cakewalk draw and if you believe he's playing better because he thumped Chela and Clement, you're fooling yourself.
Berdych won't defeat him now, but later in the year.

yeah after Roddick in 1/8 final last week,he'll probably get Federer in 1/8 final this week.......GREAT!:o

Time for Gasquet to stop complaining and start beating those guys. Especially Roddick.

"Nadal" and "tank" shouldnt be used together.

Its like "GlennMirnyi" and "sensible arguments"

Neither have anything to do with the other

Nadal and sore loser go like bread and butter, like Blaze and fanboy.

sawan66278
03-20-2007, 01:12 AM
"Nadal" and "tank" shouldnt be used together.

Its like "GlennMirnyi" and "sensible arguments"

Neither have anything to do with the other

Truer words have rarely been spoken...

GlennMirnyi
03-20-2007, 01:25 AM
Truer words have rarely been spoken...

Weren't you the one saying Federer should thank God for what he has achieved HIMSELF? :lol:

sondraj06
03-20-2007, 01:26 AM
Weren't you the one saying Federer should thank God for what he has achieved HIMSELF? :lol:

Loser Glenn, firts Birdie was going to demolish Rafa now, it's not going to be this time but next.

GlennMirnyi
03-20-2007, 01:37 AM
Loser Glenn, firts Birdie was going to demolish Rafa now, it's not going to be this time but next.

If they play 100 matches, Berdych will win 90 and the other 10 will go to 3 sets on clay. It's all about match-ups, something you probably don't know much about, like your other Rafatard friends. I never said Berdych would thump Nadal now, I just said he's going to over and over again as long as they play. :cuckoo:

sondraj06
03-20-2007, 01:46 AM
If they play 100 matches, Berdych will win 90 and the other 10 will go to 3 sets on clay. It's all about match-ups, something you probably don't know much about, like your other Rafatard friends. I never said Berdych would thump Nadal now, I just said he's going to over and over again as long as they play. :cuckoo:


Yeah and I could say the same thing about a rafa and Fed match up as it stands, does that me that Rafa is better

GlennMirnyi
03-20-2007, 01:49 AM
Yeah and I could say the same thing about a rafa and Fed match up as it stands, does that me that Rafa is better

Does this mean anything?

sawan66278
03-20-2007, 01:56 AM
I would respond, Glenn, but this is the forum to discuss MY beliefs...besides, from what I gather, a theological debate or discourse with you would prove a futile effort.

sawan66278
03-20-2007, 01:59 AM
Also, Glenn, if you recall (which I am almost certain, given your comments, you don't), I was mentioning a comment my friend made about Roger. Whether I agree with his sentiment or not, I felt the question was valid given the number of people who have expressed similar feelings.

But then again, what can I expect...many individuals have fallen to the methodologies employed by certain media conglomerates: reporting what they want to see rather than what is seen.

Stensland
03-20-2007, 02:08 AM
the potential murray-hewitt match could be quite interesting, given the fact that hewitt doesn't mind murray's moonballs. murray gives other players a hard time trying to find their rhythm, whereas hewitt's just gonna let the ball bounce back. murray's gotta do way more than against guys like haas or djokovic.

i'm predicting hewitt in a tight 3-setter.

Stensland
03-20-2007, 02:16 AM
oh yeah, almost forgot: blake's gonna go down vs. safin. both players currently playing far from their best, but safin's gonna get his act together, i guess.

GonzoFed
03-20-2007, 02:35 AM
Also, Glenn, if you recall (which I am almost certain, given your comments, you don't), I was mentioning a comment my friend made about Roger. Whether I agree with his sentiment or not, I felt the question was valid given the number of people who have expressed similar feelings.

But then again, what can I expect...many individuals have fallen to the methodologies employed by certain media conglomerates: reporting what they want to see rather than what is seen.

OMFG!!! At first i thought you were just trying to get Fed Fans and Fedtards all riled up spewing :bs: but you actually take yourself seriously :speakles: MTF never ceases to surprise me.

GlennMirnyi
03-20-2007, 02:37 AM
I would respond, Glenn, but this is the forum to discuss MY beliefs...besides, from what I gather, a theological debate or discourse with you would prove a futile effort.

Also, Glenn, if you recall (which I am almost certain, given your comments, you don't), I was mentioning a comment my friend made about Roger. Whether I agree with his sentiment or not, I felt the question was valid given the number of people who have expressed similar feelings.

But then again, what can I expect...many individuals have fallen to the methodologies employed by certain media conglomerates: reporting what they want to see rather than what is seen.

I'd love the philosophic debate about the existance of god or not, but you can't judge people by your religion in a world with so many religions (and people that don't believe in this at all).

sawan66278
03-20-2007, 02:40 AM
GonzoFed...I'm truly sorry that you cannot appreciate coherent answers, and must resort to expletives to voice your frustrations. Being a fan and trying to have an intelligent discourse does not mean that one is "taking themselves too seriously". Tennis is just that: tennis...a sport...for fun...a diversion...Am I passionate about it? Yes...do I have my favorites? Yes. But part of the fun of of boards like this is one can have meaningful entertainment via discussion about our faves, matches, and the intricacies of the game.

tripb19
03-20-2007, 02:42 AM
Damn it, Ljubo is there to school Nalby again :sad:

Misterman
03-20-2007, 02:43 AM
Damn it. Another simple draw for Roddick. Jesus, he has no trouble until the semi's. Is the draw really weak this year ?

sawan66278
03-20-2007, 02:45 AM
Glenn, my friend, you are missing my point. In the post you have quoted from, I mentioned the opinions of a few friends of mine (and others I know). The meat of the discussion was whether or not the posters here shared their views, found them valid, or failed to see their applicability to character of Mr. Federer. My views were not ever the subject of the discussion.

True, there are many religions and cosmologies in the world. My point was that many individuals I know (who are in the States) share the viewpoint I mentioned. Refuting their beliefs is your right; however, simply ignoring the fact that these opinions exist will not cause them to disappear.

Now, let's get back to the draw...

Bibberz
03-20-2007, 02:54 AM
[QUOTE=Merton;5058015]I think so too. In any case, both Querrey and Andreev should be easy pray for Roger.

You might say Querrey should be easy quarry for Roger....Let's hope that nickname doesn't catch on, for his sake.

GonzoFed
03-20-2007, 02:58 AM
GonzoFed...I'm truly sorry that you cannot appreciate coherent answers, and must resort to expletives to voice your frustrations. Being a fan and trying to have an intelligent discourse does not mean that one is "taking themselves too seriously". Tennis is just that: tennis...a sport...for fun...a diversion...Am I passionate about it? Yes...do I have my favorites? Yes. But part of the fun of of boards like this is one can have meaningful entertainment via discussion about our faves, matches, and the intricacies of the game.

This is coming from someone who criticizes a player that he/she doesn't like for not thanking God in his speeches (i don't believe for a second the :bs: that it was a friend). But of course that is part of a discussion about tennis.:retard: Anyway keep posting, you are funny, since your posts are very useful here. Anyone who reads them can feel good about their IQ level.

Jimnik
03-20-2007, 03:04 AM
Hewitt is in a very interesting section. Potentially...

R64 Kuerten
R32 Murray
R16 Gonzalez
QF Roddick

...and I have a feeling he's going to play a lot better this week.

I could see both Roddick and Nadal losing in the last 16. Ferrer is Mr. Miami and will once again test Roddick, while Youzhny will come back to haunt Nadal.

trumpets
03-20-2007, 03:12 AM
Is Federer still playing the tournament? Thank you for answering

Marek.
03-20-2007, 03:25 AM
Is Federer still playing the tournament? Thank you for answering

Yeah, he is. Why wouldn't he?:confused:

trumpets
03-20-2007, 03:29 AM
Yeah, he is. Why wouldn't he?:confused:

I thought someone said that he might have withdrawn from the tournament.

Kitty de Sade
03-20-2007, 03:31 AM
I thought someone said that he might have withdrawn from the tournament.

More than likely that was wishful thinking on the part of the rest of the field. :p

trumpets
03-20-2007, 03:35 AM
More than likely that was wishful thinking on the part of the rest of the field. :p

Ok thats good, i hope Federer is ready to win again. :)

Bremen
03-20-2007, 03:51 AM
Ok thats good, i hope Federer is ready to win again. :)

As do I! I think he has a pretty good draw and as long as he doesn't play sloppily in the early rounds he should be in good form by the finals.

sawan66278
03-20-2007, 05:14 AM
Ah the audacity of posters like GonzoFed:rolleyes: Accusing one of lying without even knowing a single fact about an individual is the height of arrogance and total lack of civility.

Anyway, the draw, in my mind, seems pretty fairly balanced. I would like to see Rafa play Misha again...particularly with Rafa's confidence level and the relative slowness of the courts (in comparison to those in IW). Wouldn't it be ironic if Rafa actually played better on the faster courts of IW than here?

I really feel that neither Roger or Rafa are going to win the tourney...who will win? I say its pretty wide open. But having two masters series tourneys so close apart...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: can lead to some INTERESTING results...

DarkMarc
03-20-2007, 11:54 AM
fuck, have you ever seen haas not playing in the federer half, when both play!?!?!?

Kolya
03-20-2007, 12:28 PM
Kolya's draw looks alright, Berdych in the 4th and Nalbandian/Ljubo in QF.

oz_boz
03-20-2007, 12:33 PM
Without even looking at the draw it is safe to say that it is a cupcake draw for Fed and a hard one for Rafa. The former since only Rafa is acknowledged as a tough opponent for Roger, the latter since the probability is very high that one of Blake/Berdych/Gonzalez/Youzhny is on Nadal's half.

cmurray
03-20-2007, 12:38 PM
Am I the only person who thinks its possible that Andreev might...bother Roger? I watched him play in Dubai against Rafa - his game is just the type to give Federer fits. The way the courts play in Miami...this could be more interesting than I originally thought.

For the record....I'm not saying Roger's going to lose (I figure only a fool bets against him) but with all that topspin Igor plays with....anyway, just noticed that.

oz_boz
03-20-2007, 12:58 PM
Am I the only person who thinks its possible that Andreev might...bother Roger? I watched him play in Dubai against Rafa - his game is just the type to give Federer fits. The way the courts play in Miami...this could be more interesting than I originally thought.

For the record....I'm not saying Roger's going to lose (I figure only a fool bets against him) but with all that topspin Igor plays with....anyway, just noticed that.

Andreev is right-handed, that is reason enough that he shouldn't bother Roger the same way Rafa does (high-bouncing fh to Fed's bh).

cmurray
03-20-2007, 01:53 PM
Andreev is right-handed, that is reason enough that he shouldn't bother Roger the same way Rafa does (high-bouncing fh to Fed's bh).

This is true...and I don't think he will "get" Roger the way Raf has, but I still think it could be interesting. Who knows, though. I thought Roger would beat Chela comfortably, so obviously I am no good at predicting this stuff. :p

RonE
03-20-2007, 01:59 PM
This is true...and I don't think he will "get" Roger the way Raf has, but I still think it could be interesting. Who knows, though. I thought Roger would beat Chela comfortably, so obviously I am no good at predicting this stuff. :p

Roger has always beaten Chela comfortably. In fact, he has only dropped one set to him in 4 meetings:

2006 ATP Masters Series Rome
Italy Clay R64 Federer 6-2 6-1

2004 Indian Wells AMS
California, USA Hard Q Federer 6-2 6-1

2003 Miami TMS
FL, U.S.A. Hard R32 Federer 6-1 3-6 6-1

2002 Sydney
Australia Hard F Federer 6-3 6-3


:p

Jelena_78
03-20-2007, 01:59 PM
Kolya's draw looks alright, Berdych in the 4th and Nalbandian/Ljubo in QF.

First he has to beat :cool: Tipsarevic:cool: in the 3rd!!!
Kidding!!!:haha: ,but who knows...;)

Apemant
03-20-2007, 02:19 PM
For the record....I'm not saying Roger's going to lose (I figure only a fool bets against him) but with all that topspin Igor plays with....anyway, just noticed that.

Yep, Andreev puts ridiculous amount of topspin on his FH. But like someone said, going to Fed's FH will trouble him a tad less... if we forget the fact that Andreev is just crazy about running around his FH. If he hits an inside-out FH, that very much goes right into Fed's BH. That should be his gameplan - trading his inside-out FH with Fed's BH slices.

Bremen
03-20-2007, 02:26 PM
This is true...and I don't think he will "get" Roger the way Raf has, but I still think it could be interesting. Who knows, though. I thought Roger would beat Chela comfortably, so obviously I am no good at predicting this stuff. :p

Maybe you mean Canas? What a shocker that was. I had to leave the board for about a week I was in such a state...crazy that a tennis player can affect me like that.

Loremaster
03-20-2007, 03:17 PM
I hope Hewitt gained some form is Cahill his coach again I've seen him in Lleyton's box in IW?Anyone knows he can trouble murray and gonzo is good match up for lleyton unless he plays in AO style - 20+ winners and 2ue per set

rafagirlno1
03-20-2007, 03:21 PM
Yep, Andreev puts ridiculous amount of topspin on his FH. But like someone said, going to Fed's FH will trouble him a tad less... if we forget the fact that Andreev is just crazy about running around his FH. If he hits an inside-out FH, that very much goes right into Fed's BH. That should be his gameplan - trading his inside-out FH with Fed's BH slices.

yes but tht wont lead to success against fed . because he has the best backhand slice there is today and his backhand can be trobled only when rafa hits then high and deep at the baseline . with andrew his forehands r not tht deep and fed would really deal him well and would not hve much problem with tht . i really would love rafa to learn tht lovely slice from fed because rafa in my books has every shot in the book but only an effective slice is missing :wavey:
all my good wishes to rafa to win the tournament ..:)

vamose rafa !!!

Merton
03-20-2007, 03:23 PM
Am I the only person who thinks its possible that Andreev might...bother Roger? I watched him play in Dubai against Rafa - his game is just the type to give Federer fits. The way the courts play in Miami...this could be more interesting than I originally thought.

For the record....I'm not saying Roger's going to lose (I figure only a fool bets against him) but with all that topspin Igor plays with....anyway, just noticed that.

Yep, Andreev puts ridiculous amount of topspin on his FH. But like someone said, going to Fed's FH will trouble him a tad less... if we forget the fact that Andreev is just crazy about running around his FH. If he hits an inside-out FH, that very much goes right into Fed's BH. That should be his gameplan - trading his inside-out FH with Fed's BH slices.

Igor does not have a reliable backhand and on hardcourts will not have the time of running around to hit forehands. Roger should prevail easily. Clay might be a different matter though, back to Gstaad in 2004 Andreev gave Roger a match and that is arguably the fastest clay court on tour.

gam_jonte
03-20-2007, 03:25 PM
Anyone know if Soderling are playing in Miami?

scoobs
03-20-2007, 03:31 PM
Soderling seems to have withdrawn - "personal reasons"

MaryWalsh
03-20-2007, 03:41 PM
I'm waiting to see where Canas gets placed before I make any predictions.

scoobs
03-20-2007, 05:04 PM
Is he divorcing his husband too? :o
If so, he ain't saying :)

Byrd
03-20-2007, 05:08 PM
Is he divorcing his husband too? :o

Aren't toads hibernating at this time of the year :confused:

Dusk Soldier
03-20-2007, 05:33 PM
Damn it. Another simple draw for Roddick. Jesus, he has no trouble until the semi's. Every draw looks simple when you are a good tennis player.

cmurray
03-20-2007, 05:45 PM
Roger has always beaten Chela comfortably. In fact, he has only dropped one set to him in 4 meetings:

2006 ATP Masters Series Rome
Italy Clay R64 Federer 6-2 6-1

2004 Indian Wells AMS
California, USA Hard Q Federer 6-2 6-1

2003 Miami TMS
FL, U.S.A. Hard R32 Federer 6-1 3-6 6-1

2002 Sydney
Australia Hard F Federer 6-3 6-3


:p


bwahaha. I meant Canas. Duh. :lol:

cmurray
03-20-2007, 05:50 PM
Maybe you mean Canas? What a shocker that was. I had to leave the board for about a week I was in such a state...crazy that a tennis player can affect me like that.

Yep. Came right out of the blue. Still not as bad as Sampras' Bastl loss at Wimby though.

Bremen
03-20-2007, 05:53 PM
Yep. Came right out of the blue. Still not as bad as Sampras' Bastl loss at Wimby though.

No, you're right about that. This wasn't a grand slam. Anyway I hope more of the top seeds make it to the later rounds this time. On both the men's and women's sides...Indian Wells was a pretty strange tournament.

cmurray
03-20-2007, 05:59 PM
No, you're right about that. This wasn't a grand slam. Anyway I hope more of the top seeds make it to the later rounds this time. On both the men's and women's sides...Indian Wells was a pretty strange tournament.

The semis and finals were okay - mostly top seeds. It was the middle of the tourney that was :smash:

I think you need not worry. I think Roger will come back to Miami on fire. I still think Andreev (should he beat Sam) will make him work....but I've always thought that is good for Roger. Look at how he blasted through his tough draw at Wimby.

BlakeorHenman
03-20-2007, 06:21 PM
lots of close first round matches, I predict.

RonE
03-20-2007, 06:33 PM
Yep. Came right out of the blue. Still not as bad as Sampras' Bastl loss at Wimby though.

You had to remind me of that :o

Bremen
03-20-2007, 09:08 PM
The semis and finals were okay - mostly top seeds. It was the middle of the tourney that was :smash:

I think you need not worry. I think Roger will come back to Miami on fire. I still think Andreev (should he beat Sam) will make him work....but I've always thought that is good for Roger. Look at how he blasted through his tough draw at Wimby.

You're probably right...and I do tend to worry so much. Lately though I had gotten more comfortable with his winning and to lose so early in the first round, second technically, was a wake up call for me. I kind of expected him to only lose on clay this year...silly me.

scoobs
03-20-2007, 09:10 PM
The semis and finals were okay - mostly top seeds. It was the middle of the tourney that was :smash:

I think you need not worry. I think Roger will come back to Miami on fire. I still think Andreev (should he beat Sam) will make him work....but I've always thought that is good for Roger. Look at how he blasted through his tough draw at Wimby.
Were okay but not greatly competitive. I'm hoping for some more tight contests in Miami - Murray vs Haas was the only real barnburner of Indian Wells.

cmurray
03-21-2007, 12:19 AM
You had to remind me of that :o

sorry Ron... but you have to admit, in terms of upsets, it pretty much takes the cake. In the some 20 years I've been watching tennis, I don't ever remember being quite so.....shocked.

scoobs
03-21-2007, 12:31 AM
You had to remind me of that :o
I think I was more shocked the year he lost at the US Open to Jaime Yzaga - 1994.

Corey Feldman
03-21-2007, 12:34 AM
Yep. Came right out of the blue. Still not as bad as Sampras' Bastl loss at Wimby thoughI still remember one time, 1994, Sampras lost in the 1st round of Qatar to Alami.... was shocking as hell at the time :p
by '02 most clowns were beating him.

cmurray
03-21-2007, 12:39 AM
I think I was more shocked the year he lost at the US Open to Jaime Yzaga - 1994.

My gosh. Forgot about that one. :o

I guess the Wimby one shocked me because...well....it was Wimbledon. Pete's "home".

No doubt - Sampras lost often enough to weird players in the smaller tournies - he was no Roger Federer in that respect - but to lose at WIMBLEDON. To Georg Bastl.

Corey Feldman
03-21-2007, 12:40 AM
I think I was more shocked the year he lost at the US Open to Jaime Yzaga - 1994.Yzaga was a decent player in his time - and Samp had been out for months before that US Open.. exhausted or something... he actually beat Sampy twice at the US Open.

cmurray
03-21-2007, 12:40 AM
I still remember one time, 1994, Sampras lost in the 1st round of Qatar to Alami.... was shocking as hell at the time :p
by '02 most clowns were beating him.

Actually, I don't remember that...but that is.....just....yikes. I don't even recognize Alami.

RonE
03-21-2007, 09:26 AM
sorry Ron... but you have to admit, in terms of upsets, it pretty much takes the cake. In the some 20 years I've been watching tennis, I don't ever remember being quite so.....shocked.

I think I was more shocked the year he lost at the US Open to Jaime Yzaga - 1994.

Neither upsets were really all that shocking once you put them into context.

In 2002 Pete was clearly on the decline losing early in most tournaments he played in. If a loss like that would have happened in his peak years at Wimbledon then yes that would have been a shocker.

In 1994 Pete injured himself in a DC tie vs the Netherlands right after Wimbledon and did not play one single event between Wimbledon and the Open. With his fitness and form detereorated and lacking match play again it was no big surprise that Yzaga was able to grind him to the ground :shrug: The proof of that was the following year they met again in the U.S. Open in the 2nd round when a fit and healthy Sampras tore him a new one 6-1,6-4,6-3