Federer: "I am very far from being the best tennis player of all time" [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Federer: "I am very far from being the best tennis player of all time"

nobama
03-19-2007, 10:09 AM
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/41724.html
Miami - Roger Federer has his dreams - like being a rock star or scoring the winning goal in a World Cup final with a spectacular overhead kick. But when it comes to his own profession, there is no time for daydreaming for the top player in men's tennis. "I am very far from being the best tennis player of all time," he said in an interview with Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa.

At 25, Federer dominates tennis like few players have done in history. He already has 10 Grand Slam titles, and he looks like the man to end a 38-year wait since Australian Rod Laver achieved the Grand Slam, winning the four greatest tournaments in the same year.

"Of course I have clearly earned the praise and all that, but at times I wish people gave me a bit more time and said, 'OK, you do great stuff, etcetera, records, etcetera, but we will only evaluate you after the end of your career and only then look at whether you really were the best or even came close,'" Federer said.

"If I keep on like this for the next two years, then it looks like I will be (the best). But we are not going to see that for a long time. One must always look at the game this way - if I stopped (playing) now, would I be the best player of all time? No, not a chance."

German Boris Becker for one does not think Federer is the best in history and claims today's top 10 players are less strong technically and psychologically than those of the 1980s and 1990s.

Federer does not enter that debate, but does feel that so much praise poured on him may be annoying to the sport's former greats.

"Sometimes it is really too much for me. It is clear that I should not be compared to the best sportsmen of all time, like Muhammad Ali, or to the best tennis players. It is of course logical that some former players get almost angry about it, because there is already so much talk of it. One just comes across it and goes 'huh!', and gives a side-swipe," Federer explained with a laugh.

"I do not provoke that, it's the media. Respect is important," he stressed.

RonE
03-19-2007, 10:12 AM
What an arrogant sod! :p

Dougie
03-19-2007, 10:17 AM
Becker saying today´s players are less strong technically and psycologically? What a bunch of bs that is! In general top players today are stronger and more complete in every aspect. But Federer has a point, it must be tiring to listen to all that hype all the time.

bokehlicious
03-19-2007, 10:18 AM
Arrogance at its best :p

Daniel25
03-19-2007, 10:26 AM
I don't know if it is fake humbleness, or being really humble or arrogant, but he is actually having a point: just judge him after his carreer is over. It is no use saying it right now. But I would love him to become the best :)

oz_boz
03-19-2007, 10:44 AM
How unexpected, Becker praises the players of the 1980's and 90's. :lol:

Apemant
03-19-2007, 11:27 AM
How unexpected, Becker praises the players of the 1980's and 90's. :lol:

Old times are always better... according to some. :devil:

I guess we like to indulge ourselves in nostalgia over the past... as times flies by, we get melancholic, and everything in the past seems to be brighter and more colorful. Maybe that's in our nature... but, I watched Becker himself, and all those greats from the late 80's and most definitely, they weren't so much ahead of today's top players, no chance. We had more multiple GS winners back then, but that's just because there was noone so dominant as Federer is; and by the way, many of today's top players have not yet finished their careers, so what's the point of comparing them to people who are done with theirs?
One thing that I feel is indisputable, even if top 10 now is weaker than top 10 back then, top 100 now is definitely strongest than ever. So, in a way, now you have to worry even about 1st and 2nd rounds, not just SF's anf F's, if you are high seeded.

Daniel25
03-19-2007, 11:29 AM
How unexpected, Becker praises the players of the 1980's and 90's. :lol:

:lol: True!

oz_boz
03-19-2007, 11:35 AM
Old times are always better... according to some. :devil:

I guess we like to indulge ourselves in nostalgia over the past... as times flies by, we get melancholic, and everything in the past seems to be brighter and more colorful. Maybe that's in our nature... but, I watched Becker himself, and all those greats from the late 80's and most definitely, they weren't so much ahead of today's top players, no chance. We had more multiple GS winners back then, but that's just because there was noone so dominant as Federer is; and by the way, many of today's top players have not yet finished their careers, so what's the point of comparing them to people who are done with theirs?
One thing that I feel is indisputable, even if top 10 now is weaker than top 10 back then, top 100 now is definitely strongest than ever. So, in a way, now you have to worry even about 1st and 2nd rounds, not just SF's anf F's, if you are high seeded.

I believe the same about top 10 of some years in the 90s being stronger than now, and that top 100 now is better. But the bolded part of your post is one point often overlooked by some who compare then with now: it's ten years too early to speak about Roger's competition being weak/strong/whatever. In ten years, the Nadal generation will be retiring, and not until then is it possible to judge their strength in a reasonable way, and hence the strength of Fed's competition.

mecir72
03-19-2007, 11:45 AM
I can't believe Becker really thinks that players in the 80's had better technique than the players today.

simo4cufc
03-19-2007, 12:03 PM
Synopsis:
Of course I'm not the best player ever...but in two years time I will be :rolleyes:

I get the impression from his interviews that if Roger wasn't an awesome tennis player he would be an accountant with no friends.

jenanun
03-19-2007, 12:08 PM
he IS arrogant but he IS the best

stratomaster
03-19-2007, 12:14 PM
Of course he's not the greatest, I am.

Kolya
03-19-2007, 12:16 PM
He can't be far off... c'mon mate...

Hola Mr. SK
03-19-2007, 12:27 PM
He will, but of course he has to deal with all the pressure from the media before he could be the best ever. lol

All_Slam_Andre
03-19-2007, 01:51 PM
Federer obviously isn't up there with the likes of Sampras, Laver and Borg just yet, but I definately think his achievements so far in his career are enough to rank him ahead of everyone else.

decrepitude
03-19-2007, 02:02 PM
Synopsis:
Of course I'm not the best player ever...but in two years time I will be :rolleyes:

I get the impression from his interviews that if Roger wasn't an awesome tennis player he would be an accountant with no friends.

No, he said IF he kept on "like this" - that is, winning practically everything in sight - for another two years, he could be considered the best. He made it quite plain that that wasn't a given.

adee-gee
03-19-2007, 02:51 PM
More attempts to fool the press :zzz:

bokehlicious
03-19-2007, 03:06 PM
More attempts to fool the press :zzz:

:lol: Roger can't do no good, whatever he does :cool: :D

oz_boz
03-19-2007, 03:26 PM
Synopsis:
Of course I'm not the best player ever...but in two years time I will be :rolleyes:

I get the impression from his interviews that if Roger wasn't an awesome tennis player he would be an accountant with no friends.

And instead, as things somehow have turned out, he's an awesome tennis player, and you are an accountant with no friends. How unfair. :hug:

Kitty de Sade
03-19-2007, 03:35 PM
All of it seems a bit premature right now, especially without the RG title. Federer is probably asked the same questions over and over in every interview he does. Maybe I don't see it, but it doesn't come across as arrogant. Confident, for sure, but that's understandable. :)

zicofirol
03-19-2007, 03:38 PM
I can't believe Becker really thinks that players in the 80's had better technique than the players today.

I dont remember tennis from the 80's but im sure their volleying and slicing must of been better than players of todya, especially the volleying...

FluffyYellowBall
03-19-2007, 03:52 PM
German Boris Becker for one does not think Federer is the best in history and claims today's top 10 players are less strong technically and psychologically than those of the 1980s and 1990s.

ummmm:smash: :scratch: Not that i could even exisited in the early 80's but thats just pollution...
As far as i can remember, its called no one dominated like federer and players just arent the same tachtically but that doesnt make them weaker tactically.. If i coach a 4 year old the tactics used in the 80's i dont know if he'll even pass mini tennis!

thrust
03-19-2007, 04:03 PM
Becker is correct. Roger^s statement is not arrogant. Roger is indeed one of the all time greats. Only Nadal today, at his best, comes close. Agassi or Pete, at their near best, woud totally dominate today^s 3-10 players. Off clay, Nadal would have a losing record against Pete or Andre.

Eden
03-19-2007, 04:05 PM
I really don't get it :shrug: Roger says that he is still very far from being the best tennis player of all time and people still find something to bash him.

my0118
03-19-2007, 04:13 PM
German Boris Becker for one does not think Federer is the best in history and claims today's top 10 players are less strong technically and psychologically than those of the 1980s and 1990s.

Well, first one, not yet. Federer is one of the best players.
Second one, I agree. Blake, Robredo and etc.. there are so many jokes in top ten right now.

FluffyYellowBall
03-19-2007, 04:17 PM
Becker is correct. Roger^s statement is not arrogant. Roger is indeed one of the all time greats. Only Nadal today, at his best, comes close. Agassi or Pete, at their near best, woud totally dominate today^s 3-10 players. Off clay, Nadal would have a losing record against Pete or Andre.

What?? Agassi and Pete would dominate?? THAT i remember! And not nadal on clay because if that was true then agassi would have won waaaaayyyy more french opens. Nadal would/will dominate any clay era and the closest to beating him is Federer.

GlennMirnyi
03-19-2007, 04:23 PM
Becker saying today´s players are less strong technically and psycologically? What a bunch of bs that is! In general top players today are stronger and more complete in every aspect. But Federer has a point, it must be tiring to listen to all that hype all the time.

Of course players from the 80s-90s were better. Most of them could slice and volley, and they weren't jokes that lose before the start of the matches.

I can't believe Becker really thinks that players in the 80's had better technique than the players today.

Of course they had. Today players can only bash and bash and bash the ball.

Synopsis:
Of course I'm not the best player ever...but in two years time I will be :rolleyes:

I get the impression from his interviews that if Roger wasn't an awesome tennis player he would be an accountant with no friends.

I bet you're speaking of your experience.

I dont remember tennis from the 80's but im sure their volleying and slicing must of been better than players of todya, especially the volleying...

Of course.

Apemant
03-19-2007, 04:23 PM
And instead, as things somehow have turned out, he's an awesome tennis player, and you are an accountant with no friends. How unfair. :hug:

Touche :devil:

Johnny Groove
03-19-2007, 05:19 PM
:zzz:

jazar
03-19-2007, 05:21 PM
what a modest chap

R.Federer
03-19-2007, 05:41 PM
False modesty

R.Federer
03-19-2007, 06:10 PM
It is of course logical that some former players get almost angry about it, because there is already so much talk of it. One just comes across it and goes 'huh!', and gives a side-swipe," Federer explained with a laugh.

I wonder if he has in mind Jimmy Connors's non-comment on Federer's breaking the Weeks at Number 1 record. ;)

In that way, you have to truly admire Pete for being so gracious as to send Federer congratulatory sms's.

Rafa = Fed Killa
03-19-2007, 06:43 PM
He finally hired a good writer.

Mr. Ego doesn't actually believe the shit he feeds his fans and the media.

:smash:Fedtards:smash:

nobama
03-19-2007, 06:56 PM
He finally hired a good writer.

Mr. Ego doesn't actually believe the shit he feeds his fans and the media.

:smash:Fedtards:smash:Unlike mr humble I have a pain in my ass Nadal he doesn't feed anyone shit.

FedFan
03-19-2007, 06:57 PM
He finally hired a good writer.

Mr. Ego doesn't actually believe the shit he feeds his fans and the media.

:smash:Fedtards:smash:

You also hired a good writer when you declared to retire from MTF if Rafa loses in Melbourne? ;)

Mr Coward 'Rafa = Fed Killa' actually doesn't believe the shit he feeds the users. :p Why complaining about Rogers behaviour then?

As always there is no logic behind your posts.

Sunset of Age
03-19-2007, 07:03 PM
I really don't get it :shrug: Roger says that he is still very far from being the best tennis player of all time and people still find something to bash him.

I've given up trying to understand what it is that makes some people read 'arrogance' in anything he says or does... it only makes me hope he'll achieve his goals more and more.

FluffyYellowBall
03-19-2007, 07:09 PM
Becker isnt that much of an idiot...
gilberts the idiot..This is old...But hes an idiot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMFOIarW-48&NR

DDrago2
03-19-2007, 07:12 PM
I get the impression from his interviews that if Roger wasn't an awesome tennis player he would be an accountant with no friends.


Well isn't he anyway in a way? He is not a true star like Tiger Woods or even Nadal. A true star does and talks what he/she wishes and decides, largely ignoring others. Fed is not like that, he does what he is told

FluffyYellowBall
03-19-2007, 07:17 PM
Well isn't he anyway in a way? He is not a true star like Tiger Woods or even Nadal. A true star does and talks what he/she wishes and decides, largely ignoring others. Fed is not like that, he does what he is told


What?? Nadal is no where near the "star" federer is. If nadal slips now hes nothing...

Allez
03-19-2007, 07:40 PM
Rogi is so right! Pure class :worship: :worship: :worship:

CyBorg
03-19-2007, 07:40 PM
Becker saying today´s players are less strong technically and psycologically? What a bunch of bs that is! In general top players today are stronger and more complete in every aspect. But Federer has a point, it must be tiring to listen to all that hype all the time.

He has the right to his opinion.

But Roger is just being humble as always. The fact of the matter is that no one in the open era went through as dominant a stretch as Roger did in 2006. Yes, we all know of Laver's slam, but when one looks at the variety of surfaces today, the parity of the game and the sheer dominance with which Roger disposes of his opponents (Roddick) it become quite clear.

Roger still needs to win more on clay. One great clay season and it's official.

CyBorg
03-19-2007, 07:42 PM
Federer obviously isn't up there with the likes of Sampras, Laver and Borg just yet, but I definately think his achievements so far in his career are enough to rank him ahead of everyone else.

Of course he isn't. With 8 slams in 3 years Roger is about on par with... Ilie Nastase.:rolleyes:

Thanks for the laugh.

danton
03-19-2007, 07:44 PM
Blah blah blah - yaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnnn........

That's almost as cringe worthy as when Sharapova at the AO this year said hopefully with the fans support she can win the tournament. Fake fake fake.

That said I don't know what Roger is supposed to do - imagine the fuss if he said 'yeah I am the best ever'

SwiSha
03-19-2007, 07:45 PM
Who the hell is comparing him to Muhammad Ali ???
no matter how many titles u will win in the future..u will never come close to a sport legend like Muhammad Ali

keep that name out of your mouth

WatchOut
03-19-2007, 07:47 PM
Yeah he is...he just wants to show respect to other great players from past, what's right in one way... :bowdown:

Allez
03-19-2007, 07:47 PM
Why should Roger think he is the best ever ? He has not broken Sampras' GS record, nor has he won a record number of ATP tournaments. What he says is not false modesty. It's the objective truth. Why do people think he's faking it ? He hasn't got the stats to back up the goat claim yet so he's being totally honest and that's why we like him so much :yeah:

Agassi Aces
03-19-2007, 07:48 PM
He is cocky and thats one of the reasons why Canas beat him in Indian Wells!

SwiSha
03-19-2007, 07:49 PM
what a retard :cuckoo: comparison with Ali

CyBorg
03-19-2007, 07:53 PM
Becker is correct. Roger^s statement is not arrogant. Roger is indeed one of the all time greats. Only Nadal today, at his best, comes close. Agassi or Pete, at their near best, woud totally dominate today^s 3-10 players. Off clay, Nadal would have a losing record against Pete or Andre.

Some top 10 seeds of note in the 1980s:

- Eliot Teltscher
- Johan Kriek
- Gene Mayer
- Henri Leconte
- Jay Berger
- Peter McNamara
- Brian Teacher
- Aaron Krikstein
- Jonas Svensson
- Jakob Hlasek

And don't get me started on the quality of the top 10 between 97-98 when Sampras was playing. It was utter garbage.

CyBorg
03-19-2007, 07:55 PM
what a retard :cuckoo: comparison with Ali

Stop trolling.

SwiSha
03-19-2007, 07:56 PM
Stop trolling.

stfu newbie

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 07:59 PM
I don't get were Roger's false modesty comes from. If he is feeling the pressure, one reason is because I think he has been believeing the hype around him for far too long. It's one thing to be considered amongst the best, which he is. It's also one thing to be on your way to being the best, which he is

But it's a completely nother thing to be the best which he is not yet, and I think a lot of times the media and his fans have constantly forgotten that time and time again

So if the best can't help but to realize that and point it out then there is nothing wrong with that.

And why is it sooo wrong for the old greats who still hold that title mind you to say so but when fed says anything along the same line about his own game and accomplishments it's him being honest but them being arrogant and wrong.

Nope I think yall are wrong, if I am still the greatest because my record says so, then I have ever right to comment on who is suppose to break that record, because everyone says he is, not because he has.

Fed is the one that has to prove it this time not Pete or Sampres, they've had their time and they've proven it already

So if Federer wants to keep putting this extra pressure on himself to be the greatest, then let him. That pressure is going to be the thing that cause him to fall, not his game.

CyBorg
03-19-2007, 08:18 PM
stfu newbie

We're the rudest Canadians I've ever come across.

nobama
03-19-2007, 08:35 PM
stfu newbieWow. Brilliant stuff. :worship:

Corey Feldman
03-19-2007, 08:39 PM
At this stage he should just be fucking concentrating on his 1st round in Miami, clearly something he wasnt doing last week.

nobama
03-19-2007, 08:41 PM
At this stage he should just be fucking concentrating on his 1st round in Miami, clearly something he wasnt doing last week.Yeah because giving an interview is clearly bad preparation for Miami....

Corey Feldman
03-19-2007, 09:02 PM
He's talking nonsense... Nalbandian coulda been no1
:lol:
too much damn glory going to his head or something, he better sort it out.

and im not saying this coz he lost to Canas, but he never seemed himself in AO or Dubai either, even im getting a bit fed up with some little things about him... the Fed-Woods thing is part of it/sampras stuff - just little things.
i think he's getting a bit smug dare i say :tape:

dont beat me up mirkaland.

Deivid23
03-19-2007, 09:04 PM
"...in normal circumstances, it just happens I´ve done extremely well in recent times"

Is Roger bored or what? :scratch:


http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/tenis/es/desarrollo/751285.html

Flibbertigibbet
03-19-2007, 09:05 PM
Tomorrow's headline:

Federer: "Xristos really might as well be number 1 in the world, I'm just a transition..."

nobama
03-19-2007, 09:06 PM
You do know that these are all from the same interview...

Sunset of Age
03-19-2007, 09:07 PM
You do know that these are all from the same interview...

Indeed. It's about time the mods merge all these obnoxious "Federer:..."-threads.

Fergie
03-19-2007, 09:08 PM
Poor Rogi, he is really boring lately :awww:

Skyward
03-19-2007, 09:08 PM
MTF tabloid reporters are bored.

nobama
03-19-2007, 09:13 PM
Indeed. It's about time the mods merge all these obnoxious "Federer:..."-threads.What I posted I don't think was the entire interview, but leave it to the foreign press to pick out a quote here and there and write a story around it. And it's not like what he says is so earth shattering.....Nadal has as many if not more points than other #1's have in the past. And I'm sure Roger's not the first one to think Nalbandian could've been #1 at some point in his career, had he been serious about it.

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 09:14 PM
He's talking nonsense... Nalbandian coulda been no1
:lol:
too much damn glory going to his head or something, he better sort it out.

and im not saying this coz he lost to Canas, but he never seemed himself in AO or Dubai either, even im getting a bit fed up with some little things about him... the Fed-Woods thing is part of it/sampras stuff - just little things.
i think he's getting a bit smug dare i say :tape:

dont beat me up mirkaland.

Yeah all that stuff bothers me but people call me crazy. I recently saw pics of him and his new bffs Gwen and Gavin I was like look o.k we get it your connected, he's getting a little too h-wood for me. And this is coming from a completly non I hate rogi way, because in actuality I don't, I just get a kick out of teasing him.

SwiSha
03-19-2007, 09:17 PM
Wow. Brilliant stuff. :worship:

i know right just like ur username and signature

brilliant

Skyward
03-19-2007, 09:18 PM
Even a public sewer system doesn't contain as much shit as Sondraj's posts

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 09:22 PM
Even a public sewer system doesn't contain as much shit as Sondraj's posts

No, you are right but your mouth does. Open wide pumpkin

nobama
03-19-2007, 10:04 PM
He's talking nonsense... Nalbandian coulda been no1
:lol:
too much damn glory going to his head or something, he better sort it out.

and im not saying this coz he lost to Canas, but he never seemed himself in AO or Dubai either, even im getting a bit fed up with some little things about him... the Fed-Woods thing is part of it/sampras stuff - just little things.
i think he's getting a bit smug dare i say :tape:

dont beat me up mirkaland.Sorry, not my intention. :hug: But I guess you didn't see the entire article posted in the Fed forum where Roger uses the "wife" word for the first time....that aught to freak you out. :lol:

jacobhiggins
03-19-2007, 10:35 PM
Once again Federer shows how great of a number 1 he is very humble, and gracious, and right on the money.

sondraj06
03-19-2007, 10:45 PM
Sorry, not my intention. :hug: But I guess you didn't see the entire article posted in the Fed forum where Roger uses the "wife" word for the first time....that aught to freak you out. :lol:

wait he was refering to mirka as his wife. was he talking about marrying her?

nobama
03-19-2007, 10:57 PM
wait he was refering to mirka as his wife. was he talking about marrying her?He said: "She is the most important person in my life, of course, with my parents. And I am very glad about everything she does for me. She will remain my girlfriend or my wife, and she does everything that she does only because she has fun helping me, and if ever she no longer feels like doing it she must stop."

All_Slam_Andre
03-19-2007, 10:59 PM
Of course he isn't. With 8 slams in 3 years Roger is about on par with... Ilie Nastase.:rolleyes:

Thanks for the laugh.

:lol: How silly of me to say that Federer is currently behind a player who has won more grand slam titles than anyone else in the history of the game, one who has won 2 calendar grand slams and another who has 3 French Open-Wimbledon doubles to his name What was I thinking?
Thanks for the laugh :)

CyBorg
03-19-2007, 11:23 PM
:lol: How silly of me to say that Federer is currently behind a player who has won more grand slam titles than anyone else in the history of the game, one who has won 2 calendar grand slams and another who has 3 French Open-Wimbledon doubles to his name What was I thinking?
Thanks for the laugh :)

It's beyond silly. You want to wait until Federer is 30 and has 15 or more slams to his name to declare him on par with Borg and the likes? It's not just lazy reasoning - it's faulty logic.

Why not just watch him play instead?

All_Slam_Andre
03-19-2007, 11:30 PM
It's beyond silly. You want to wait until Federer is 30 and has 15 or more slams to his name to declare him on par with Borg and the likes? It's not just lazy reasoning - it's faulty logic.



No it's not. Greatness is based on achievements alone. My opinion is that Federer's achievements so far in his career are enough rank him ahead of every player in the history of the game apart from Sampras, Borg and Laver. If Federer wins the French Open title on June 10th, then i'll declare him as the GOAT, but not just yet :).

CyBorg
03-19-2007, 11:54 PM
No it's not. Greatness is based on achievements alone. My opinion is that Federer's achievements so far in his career are enough rank him ahead of every player in the history of the game apart from Sampras, Borg and Laver. If Federer wins the French Open title on June 10th, then i'll declare him as the GOAT, but not just yet :).

Let me quote what you said.

Federer obviously isn't up there with the likes of Sampras, Laver and Borg just yet, but I definately think his achievements so far in his career are enough to rank him ahead of everyone else.

You think that Federer is not up therer with Sampras, Laver and Borg and yet you feel that a win at the French Open would qualify him as the greatest of all time?

That's very strange reasoning - just as strange as basing greatness on accomplishments like grand slam totals (statistically flawed right up until 1990 and virtually irrelevant up until the beginning of the open era, see Roy Emerson).

All_Slam_Andre
03-20-2007, 12:01 AM
You think that Federer is not up therer with Sampras, Laver and Borg and yet you feel that a win at the French Open would qualify him as the greatest of all time?



Yes. In my opinion, Sampras's record number of grand slam titles, Laver's Calendar grand slams and Borg's 3 consecutive French Open-Wimbledon doubles are more impressive than anything that Federer has achieved so far in his career, which is why all 3 of them are ahead of him.
However if Federer wins the French Open this year, he'll have completed the non-calendar grand slam on 4 different surfaces, which for me would be the most impressive achievement in the history of the game and would be enough to make him the GOAT.

Snowwy
03-20-2007, 12:23 AM
How unexpected, Becker praises the players of the 1980's and 90's. :lol:

Why is the competion always better according to these older guys when they played?

CyBorg
03-20-2007, 12:37 AM
Yes. In my opinion, Sampras's record number of grand slam titles, Laver's Calendar grand slams and Borg's 3 consecutive French Open-Wimbledon doubles are more impressive than anything that Federer has achieved so far in his career, which is why all 3 of them are ahead of him.
However if Federer wins the French Open this year, he'll have completed the non-calendar grand slam on 4 different surfaces, which for me would be the most impressive achievement in the history of the game and would be enough to make him the GOAT.

Okay then.

Startling.

Corey Feldman
03-20-2007, 12:45 AM
Sorry, not my intention. :hug: But I guess you didn't see the entire article posted in the Fed forum where Roger uses the "wife" word for the first time....that aught to freak you out. :lol:Just some little things about his attitude this year.. example would be the Aussie Open early rounds... he was yelling out and calling himself an idiot anytime he missed a shot :cuckoo: and that dismissive way he would say "challenge!" when he was challenging calls.. not even looking at the umpire.
this is just not the 'old roger' on court, 2004 Fed who kept his head down and just destroyed all - every round.
he's been one tie break away from losing his last two first rounders against Pless and Canas since AO.

Peoples
03-20-2007, 12:48 AM
I know you aren't Roger. But which one is: Rafa or Roddick? :confused:

CyBorg
03-20-2007, 01:50 AM
Just some little things about his attitude this year.. example would be the Aussie Open early rounds... he was yelling out and calling himself an idiot anytime he missed a shot :cuckoo: and that dismissive way he would say "challenge!" when he was challenging calls.. not even looking at the umpire.
this is just not the 'old roger' on court, 2004 Fed who kept his head down and just destroyed all - every round.
he's been one tie break away from losing his last two first rounders against Pless and Canas since AO.

I would probably kill my share of umpires if I was playing. Roger should be commanded for holding back! :angel:

Metis
03-20-2007, 02:16 AM
I can imagine Roger and Rafa fighting when they are at home together:

-You are the best ever Roger. You know you are, no? :angel:
-No, I am telling you I am not. :rolleyes: We have to wait at least 2 years before we say that.
-Yes you aare! :nerner:
-No, I'm not! :fiery:
-YES YOU ARE! :shout:
-NO!!!! :explode:

:big fight ensues, trophies flying here and there:

After one hour Roger says:

-You know you are the big favorite for RG again. :devil:
-:speakles: Now, wait a minute...

Sunset of Age
03-20-2007, 05:04 AM
I can imagine Roger and Rafa fighting when they are at home together:

-You are the best ever Roger. You know you are, no? :angel:
-No, I am telling you I am not. :rolleyes: We have to wait at least 2 years before we say that.
-Yes you aare! :nerner:
-No, I'm not! :fiery:
-YES YOU ARE! :shout:
-NO!!!! :explode:

:big fight ensues, trophies flying here and there:

After one hour Roger says:

-You know you are the big favorite for RG again. :devil:
-:speakles: Now, wait a minute...

:lol: see avatar!

kronus12
03-20-2007, 08:03 AM
bah boris should worry about his taxes and his love life before opening his mouth about greatness in tennis. Yeah your right why do all these old farts complain about the younger generation not as strong as there one. Yeah and Sondraj06 still full of shit as usual same as All_slamAndre another delusional dickhead man if you guys hate fed that much don't comment on his threads geez quite simple right.
Fed was right on that article you need to be a bit arrongant if you want to be the best.

Allure
03-20-2007, 08:14 AM
I noticed posters who don't like Roger have ''Andre'' in their names.

almouchie
03-20-2007, 09:28 AM
its interesting to see some of federer fans voice that yes he is arrogant
i guess a few years of hearing ur the best,
OMG federer, makes him a bit more likely to be tipsy

he maybe many things, but humble is not a word i would associate with him

maqk
03-20-2007, 10:08 AM
he is the best no doubt, & about the humbleness, well the place Roger stands now, is on top & not every one can show such humbleness, i know players who show their pride so much & so cheeply achiving far more LESSER than Federrer,

Fed u r the best & the great

oz_boz
03-20-2007, 10:42 AM
Yes. In my opinion, Sampras's record number of grand slam titles, Laver's Calendar grand slams and Borg's 3 consecutive French Open-Wimbledon doubles are more impressive than anything that Federer has achieved so far in his career, which is why all 3 of them are ahead of him.

Disagree. IMO there are some noteworthy feats that puts Fed of now on par with the other three: USO-Wimbly triple, 3 Slams/year twice, consecutive #1 streak, rate of domination over an extended period (noone being as dominant since Laver who played in a far less competitive era), better clay record than Sampras (RG F-SF, F of all clay MS plus three titles).

But I agree with you about the significance of one RG title for Roger.

*Viva Chile*
03-22-2007, 10:06 PM
OMG :spit:

I found this in spanish, but I will put my best effort to translate it well.

http://www.emol.com/noticias/deportes/detalle/detallenoticias.asp?idnoticia=249988

MIAMI.- Swiss Roger Federer doesn't left to surprise us: after confessing that he wants to be Lenny Kravitz, the world's tennis number one player went one step more after reveal that his other musical dream is to sustitute the legendary Angus Young, as guitarist of AC/DC, the legendary australian rock band.

"No, no! I don't want to be next to Angus Young, I want to be in his place" :haha: he said in an interview published by the swiss magazine "Weltwoche" in their last edition.

Federer revealed that he had watch in two times live to the australian band formed in 1973 for brothers Michael and Angus Young.

The Swiss laughs and jokes with his leadership in tennis when when it is asked to him why he wants to be the leader of the band and not to be in the background: “Somehow, in my case, it is quite logical”.

The world's number one recently had talking of his taste for rock music: “I would like to be Lenny Kravitz so much…”, said in a recent interview with DPA in that he admitted that the “drug” that partly gives forces him to be the best of all is the crowd, acting before thousands of people.

About Federer and american Kravitz was a kind of "a crush", according to the tennis player: "I watch him in Paris, and it much affected to me his form to be related with the public, how they worship him, how I myself was shouting! I must admit it: Is something that I would like to live". “I would like to touch the guitar”, added. “But… I do not have time”. :lol:


Very funny Roger :yeah:


P.D: if J'torian is around here, I would love to see a photoshop of Roger with Lenny's hair. or Roger dressed as Angus Young :haha:

R.Federer
03-22-2007, 10:13 PM
This is just a Freudian Slip for saying he wants Lisa Bonet.

jitterbug
03-22-2007, 10:15 PM
Fanboy Roger :lol:

zicofirol
03-22-2007, 10:17 PM
http://www.msghelp.net/images/old_news.jpg

already posted,lol

*Viva Chile*
03-22-2007, 10:23 PM
already posted,lol
I don't know if it was posted... I'm around GM everyday and didn't see a discussion about it, but thanks zicofirol for shooting down my thread :ras:

The Pro
03-22-2007, 10:39 PM
Well I'm glad viva chile posted it, otherwise I wouldn't know Rog had said this. I mean, anyone who says something like that has got to be more than beatable :p

This is what happens when people are allowed to believe that others hang on their every word...

sondraj06
03-22-2007, 10:56 PM
Roger is just getting bored with tennis, he wants to be a celebrity. Ask his new bff's Gwen and Gavin, he ditched Tiger for them.

Tiger wasn't h-wood enough for him

scarecrows
03-22-2007, 10:59 PM
P.D: if J'torian is around here, I would love to see a photoshop of Roger with Lenny's hair. or Roger dressed as Angus Young :haha:

yes please :D

especially Lenny's hair, but when it was long

R.Federer
03-22-2007, 11:17 PM
Roger is just getting bored with tennis, he wants to be a celebrity. Ask his new bff's Gwen and Gavin, he ditched Tiger for them.

Tiger wasn't h-wood enough for him

It was the other way. Tiger and Elin took the seats that Rossdale had the previous year.

nobama
03-22-2007, 11:49 PM
Roger is just getting bored with tennis, he wants to be a celebrity. Ask his new bff's Gwen and Gavin, he ditched Tiger for them.

Tiger wasn't h-wood enough for himReally, so that's why he had dinner on Tiger's yacht this week and watched him practice yesterday? :scratch:

mashamaniac
03-23-2007, 12:04 AM
hey everuone here it is the exact translation of that interview. really dunno if there's been any other thread posting the same link as this,so decided to put it here:just click on the symbol below!
:) (http://jurnalo.com/jurnalo/storyPage.do?story_id=24181)

the cat
03-23-2007, 01:14 AM
Well said to Roger Federer and Boris Becker.

Rafa = Fed Killa
03-23-2007, 08:27 AM
Really, so that's why he had dinner on Tiger's yacht this week and watched him practice yesterday?


The 2007 arse clown champion everyone.

r2473
03-23-2007, 06:10 PM
[QUOTE"If I keep on like this for the next two years, then it looks like I will be (the best). But we are not going to see that for a long time. One must always look at the game this way - if I stopped (playing) now, would I be the best player of all time? No, not a chance."
[/QUOTE]

This pretty much sums up the debate for me.

The_Nadal_effect
03-24-2007, 08:57 AM
Roger is not arrogant as most of you claim. He's just being honest about his accomplishments. If he is complete, and the media insists to hear it from his own mouth, what chance does he have to put it modestly, right?;)