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Who is better?

Fed=ATPTourkilla
03-14-2007, 11:02 PM
Just curious about what people think. They may play in the semis.

N.B. (1) I'm deliberately excluding the overrated moonballer Gasquet from this thread.

N.B. (2) If neither of these two is able to stop Federer once they hit their peaks, he will end up with over 20 Slams. There will be nothing in his path. They are the Fed-haters' last hope. Donald Young is not going to do the job, I'm afraid. :)

tripb19
03-14-2007, 11:04 PM
I don't think anyone could really spilt them at this stage, I personally need more time to decide, and more results and meetings between the two.

Shrinking Violet
03-14-2007, 11:10 PM
I think Murray has more to his game, but Nole has the more consistant game. Kinda hard to seperate them at this point (they just seem to be joined together results wise as well) but just in terms of shots, technique and results against higher-ranked players I give the edge to Murray. That's not intended to diss Nole though.

Sean.J.S.
03-14-2007, 11:14 PM
Djokovic for sure. Murray is so overated by the British so people think that he is better.

stebs
03-14-2007, 11:20 PM
Djokovic for sure. Murray is so overated by the British so people think that he is better.

Show some reasons for this otherwise I will be forced to assume that it is hater BS.

blosson
03-14-2007, 11:22 PM
Murray by a tiny bit. ;)

Rafa = Fed Killa
03-14-2007, 11:24 PM
If neither of these two is able to stop Federer once they hit their peaks, he will end up with over 20 Slams. There will be nothing in his path. They are the Fed-haters' last hope.

I am pretty sure Nadal can stop Federer as well. Unless you believe Djoko & Murray are better than Nadal at beating Fed.

About the question I think Murray is slightly better but Djoko is more consistent.

In 2 or 3 yrs:

#1 Nadal
#2 Murray
#3 Djokovc

Shrinking Violet
03-14-2007, 11:25 PM
Djokovic for sure. Murray is so overated by the British so people think that he is better.

8-8 against top ten players - not exactly over-rated now, is he if you're being honest? :rolleyes:

Murraymaniac
03-14-2007, 11:36 PM
I would say Murray - more natural talent, flair, variety to his game. Also has proved himself against players in the top 10. Gilbert has brought consistency to his game too. Last time he had one of those nightmarish performances was against Baghdatis at Wimbledon '06 (pre-Gilbert)

That said - Nole will probably break the Top 10 first. I like them both and I think the two of them along with Nadal will be at the forefront of the game for a long time to come. :D

NikolaBGD
03-14-2007, 11:46 PM
Nole, kid is really fearless... both are future of tennis after Fed...

adee-gee
03-14-2007, 11:47 PM
Both are great, it's needless to compare them at this stage.

Rafa = Fed Killa
03-14-2007, 11:52 PM
I like them both and I think the two of them along with Nadal will be at the forefront of the game for a long time to come.

Completely agree

rofe
03-14-2007, 11:53 PM
Murray's game is better than Novak's game but if he is unable to put it together on big occasions, it means nothing. I would like Murray to progress more so I have a wait and watch attitude on this.

neme6
03-14-2007, 11:54 PM
right now my vote goes to Nole just because Murray sucks at serving under pressure, he allways has a set full of crappy service games in each tournaments, at least 2 matches per tournament. But Murray has the best potential for sure.

Jimnik
03-14-2007, 11:55 PM
Djokovic won't stop Federer. Nadal can only win on clay, and maybe exceptionally slow hard courts.

Murray is the only threat to Federer on fast courts.

rofe
03-14-2007, 11:59 PM
Djokovic won't stop Federer. Nadal can only win on clay, and maybe exceptionally slow hard courts.

Murray is the only threat to Federer on fast courts.

Exactly. Novak's game does not vary much whereas Murray's game has a lot of variety. If Murray can keep it together and improve certain aspects of his game, I anticipate him posing a lot of problems for Fed in the future.

guga2120
03-15-2007, 12:10 AM
Exactly. Novak's game does not vary much whereas Murray's game has a lot of variety. If Murray can keep it together and improve certain aspects of his game, I anticipate him posing a lot of problems for Fed in the future.


i agree i think he will be one of the very few that will be able to challenge Roger at Wimbledon. I think with his game Murray will eventually win it.

blank_frackis
03-15-2007, 12:13 AM
8-8 against top ten players - not exactly over-rated now, is he if you're being honest? :rolleyes:

I think Murray is over-rated, however not in the pejorative sense of that word. He's over-rated because in comparison to someone like Djokovic he receives a great deal of media exposure that inflates his level above what it actually is. That doesn't mean he's a bad player, or that he's not a great player, just that the general perception of how good he is doesn't match reality.

As for reality, personally I think Murray will be the better player in future. The thing that really impresses me is that he's beating top players despite his game having rough edges for all to see. Sooner or later he's going to iron out his problems (mental ones and his first serve percentage are two of the most obvious) and he'll be an even better player than he is now. For that reason I'll give him the edge, but not by much as I like Djokovic a lot.

cmurray
03-15-2007, 12:14 AM
gotta go with Murray. I just think he's more naturally talented.

TMJordan
03-15-2007, 12:16 AM
Djokovic forsure.

Pea
03-15-2007, 12:23 AM
I enjoy watching Nole's game much more, but I can't ignore Murray's game being more effective one.

Kolya
03-15-2007, 12:29 AM
Both are quiet even IMO - but Murray has a better tactical game sorta like my idol, Miloslav Mecir.

kindablue
03-15-2007, 12:56 AM
There should have been a third choice : equally good :p

MaryWalsh
03-15-2007, 01:03 AM
I didn't vote because I just think it is great to have new young players coming up, who are different and great in their own ways.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
03-15-2007, 10:04 PM
I voted Djokovic because I think he is the stronger player right now. In the long term, I would go for Murray...

Burrow
03-15-2007, 10:09 PM
Djokovic for sure. Murray is so overated by the British so people think that he is better.

i agree.

Daniel25
03-15-2007, 10:13 PM
I think Murray has more weapons/ elements in his game. I only think Nole is better mentally right know

uglyamerican
03-15-2007, 10:16 PM
Both are great, it's needless to compare them at this stage.

tennis needs it's rivalries. let's stoke the fires.

uglyamerican
03-15-2007, 10:18 PM
On grass: Murray by a bit
On hard: too close to call
On clay: Djokovic by miles

uglyamerican
03-15-2007, 10:20 PM
Sooner or later he's going to iron out his problems (mental ones and his first serve percentage are two of the most obvious) and he'll be an even better player than he is now.

I'm not so sure. It's not just that he's missing a lot of serves. The whole service motion needs to be over-hauled.

BlackSilver
03-15-2007, 10:30 PM
Djokovic for me in the long term

ezekiel
03-15-2007, 10:48 PM
On grass: Murray by a bit
On hard: too close to call
On clay: Djokovic by miles


Nole lost 2 close ones at Wimbledon to Grosjean and Ancic while Andy lost Nalbandian and Baghdatis. At worst it's about even but since Nole is more attacking player especially on the forehand side, he should be better on it

ezekiel
03-15-2007, 10:52 PM
They are even as even can be right now. Nole is more aggressive and proven on clay while Andy is more defensive. We'll see , there is no fun when everything is obvious.

BTW , if they both get to semis in IW, the winner gets into top 10 but both should get there regardless in Miami

rosamunda
03-15-2007, 11:02 PM
I've voted Nole, but I admit that's partly because I much prefer watching him play. I have a difficulty with Andy's plodding around the place looking like he's chewing a wasp, whereas Nole always looks pleased to be alive and bashing a tennis ball about. I think they both have enormous potential and it's probably pretty even - possibly down to who is the mentally tougher, rather than who has the greater talent, in the long run.

AnnaK_4ever
03-15-2007, 11:34 PM
Djokovic for me.
But who's really better only time will tell.

jazar
03-16-2007, 07:54 AM
without a doubt nole

my0118
03-16-2007, 08:14 AM
length of face? yes, definitely nole.

FluffyYellowBall
03-16-2007, 08:15 AM
A bit too early to tell but I like Djocovic's game more than murrays but murray will get away with more wins. He doesnt have a very specific game unlike djocovic but as i said, that will change

Strangelove
03-16-2007, 08:25 AM
Both tremendously talented. To state the obvious.

But I think if Andy can improve on his mental toughness to get it up to the level where Djokovic is at right now, I see a brighter future for Andy. Seeing he has more variation to his game...

Bobby
03-16-2007, 08:58 AM
I don't think a poll like this makes much sense. Two good players at the beginning of their careers. Impossible to say who is better. Only time will tell.