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Andy Murray beats Nikolay Davydenko 7-6 (3) 6-4

Hip-And-Happenin
03-14-2007, 10:00 PM
No big surprise really. Nikolay. :o :(

mark_s
03-14-2007, 10:01 PM
Nice one Murray!!! Second time this year!!!

nolop
03-14-2007, 10:02 PM
i like andy he plays like my martina:D

richie21
03-14-2007, 10:02 PM
Another good win for Andy against a top 10 player......although you can t really say Davydenko is playing like a top 10 player this year :o

danton
03-14-2007, 10:02 PM
Awesome - looked easy when you see the scoreline but that was one hell of a tense match

jitterbug
03-14-2007, 10:03 PM
Andy :yeah:

Norrage
03-14-2007, 10:03 PM
Murray wasn't as impressive as in his other matches, but he did the job.

Apemant
03-14-2007, 10:03 PM
Heh Andy is crazy... 42% 1st serves, and beats #3 in the world in straights.

Ironically, converted his 1st match point with an ACE. :devil:

Goonergal
03-14-2007, 10:04 PM
:banana:

Keep going Andy.

BlackSilver
03-14-2007, 10:04 PM
Davydenko needs a faster court to break Murray's defense.

Byrd
03-14-2007, 10:05 PM
I watched a couple of games, and from what I saw Murray was just defending and dumping the balls back to davydenko who wasnt consistent enough to put them away as winners, instead into the net.

uglyamerican
03-14-2007, 10:06 PM
i like andy he plays like my martina:D

Hingis? I've thought that, too. Male Hingis.

TeamID
03-14-2007, 10:06 PM
Another good win for Andy against a top 10 player......although you can t really say Davydenko is playing like a top 10 player this year :o

Davydenko is 8th in the Atp Race.

JustJames
03-14-2007, 10:06 PM
Good win to make it Two-Two in his head-to-head stat against kolya. A player that always looked stronger and more powerful than Andy..well is now, frankly, his bitch ;)

Bravo Andy :)

richie21
03-14-2007, 10:07 PM
]Heh Andy is crazy... 42% 1st serves, and beats #3 in the world in straights.[/B]
Ironically, converted his 1st match point with an ACE. :devil:

42 % 1st serves BUT 10 aces......i wish Richard had those stats instead of having a high % 1st serves which aren t exactly first serves in most cases lol :o

Regenbogen
03-14-2007, 10:08 PM
Nice win for Andy. He didn't play amazingly but it was good enough :D

Allez
03-14-2007, 10:09 PM
Heh Andy is crazy... 42% 1st serves, and beats #3 in the world in straights.

Ironically, converted his 1st match point with an ACE. :devil:

:haha::haha::haha:

Gotta luv Muzza! I thought Nikolay would win, but I'm very happy to be wrong ;)

Murray is such a breath of fresh air! He disrupts your rhythm and you end up playing crap and losing :yeah:

{Annie}
03-14-2007, 10:09 PM
I wouldn't call him his bitch... Kolya is always shaky at the start of the year except for AO :rolleyes: He is still far from his best shape and today he just didn't take his chances. Too many unconverted BPs and his serve was non-existent :p

Good game from Andy even though I have seen him play much better, just like I have seen Kolya do the same.

Good luck against Haas or Gonzo Andy and :hug: Kolya

Alonsofz
03-14-2007, 10:12 PM
Davydenko isn't playing very good :S

Andy :yeah:, but Fernando will defeat him :rocker2:

Rafa = Fed Killa
03-14-2007, 10:12 PM
Nice Murray.

Djoko vs Murray Semi is one step closer. :D

stebs
03-14-2007, 10:13 PM
Davydenko is 8th in the Atp Race.
The race is an interesting thing. Despite it being early in the year you can see how good a start Murray has had, ahead of Nadal, Blake and Ljubicic. (Nalbandian 44 :o )

BaselineSmash
03-14-2007, 10:14 PM
Underwhelming, error-strewn match. But on paper, a great result for Murray. Considerable improvement in consistency will be needed to take out Haas or Gonzalez.

As in Gonzo-Dancevic match, umpire made some ridiculous mistakes, the likes of which invoked the wrath of Agassi during the Paris TMS in 2002.

stebs
03-14-2007, 10:14 PM
Nice Murray.

Djoko vs Murray Semi is one step closer. :D

That is what I said I would like to see at the start of the tournament and I stick by it. Djoko vs Murray to play the winner of Rafa vs Roddick would be excellent.

BlackSilver
03-14-2007, 10:15 PM
well is now, frankly, his bitch ;)

Bravo Andy :)

Wow, TWO defeats in a row, yeah, that's truly a domination.

How about you wait until they play in faster courts or clay to see what will happen instead talking nonsense?

Rafa = Fed Killa
03-14-2007, 10:16 PM
That is what I said I would like to see at the start of the tournament and I stick by it. Djoko vs Murray to play the winner of Rafa vs Roddick would be excellent.

Murray has a tough quarterfinal match before we can have the 2 ideal semi final matches.

stebs
03-14-2007, 10:17 PM
Underwhelming, error-strewn match. But on paper, a great result for Murray. Considerable improvement in consistency will be needed to take out Haas or Gonzalez.

As in Gonzo-Dancevic match, umpire made some ridiculous mistakes, the likes of which invoked the wrath of Agassi during the Paris TMS in 2002.

If Gonzo beats Haas then Murray will beat Gonzo. He has a great match-up against him, I know the H-2-H is tied but the Murray of Basel '05 is a different kettle of fish to the one that defeated Gonzo in 5 at the USO and an even more different kettle of fish to the Murray of right now.

If Haas wins the match we will have to wait and see, I have no views on that one just yet.

nolop
03-14-2007, 10:17 PM
Hingis? I've thought that, too. Male Hingis.

yes, he is smart, he moves very well, he does the forehand with a lot of top spin with litle pace(compared to others forehands), nice crosscourt backhand, he is overpowered most of the times :o (in this match he was overpowered a few times), he needs to work in her serve, he is the male hingis like you said:D

Corey Feldman
03-14-2007, 10:18 PM
Yes Muzza!!
keep this up kid, a TMS title is getting closer.

Tom Paulman
03-14-2007, 10:19 PM
Good news for Roddick, doesn't need to be afraidd of losing his #3 spot so early.

cherry@cupcake
03-14-2007, 10:20 PM
Andy :D

Tense match, but a good win: Kolya certainly wasn't playing his best but then neither was Andy. However, the kid did play a clever match. It was good to see, especially as an indicator of his continued growth and maturity this season.

Oh, and Cedric Mourier is a twit. Seriously.

stebs
03-14-2007, 10:20 PM
Wow, TWO defeats in a row, yeah, that's truly a domination.

How about you wait until they play in faster courts or clay to see what will happen instead talking nonsense?

Of course on clay Davydenko is going to beat Murray, that goes without saying. The faster surface thing I think you're wrong about, I recon it's pretty close. On all surfaces maybe something like this?

Murray on grass for sure
Davydenko on clay for sure
Murray 60-40 on a slow outdoor hardcourt
Davydenko 60-40 on a quick outdoor hardcourt
50-50 Indoors

Byrd
03-14-2007, 10:20 PM
Murray will expose gonzos backhand for what it is. Only Haas can stop djokovic and murray in being in the final.

rofe
03-14-2007, 10:20 PM
Keep it up Muzza! :yeah:

Apemant
03-14-2007, 10:22 PM
Murray is such a breath of fresh air! He disrupts your rhythm and you end up playing crap and losing :yeah:

Yeah, I watched the entire match, and while it wasn't spectacular, it really makes you think.

Andy hits like 3 deep moonballs in a row, and then slices it 1 micrometer above the net. No wonder Kolya just nets such low flying, low bouncing balls. Andy can really mix his game like crazy... you need to be rock-solid to be able to consistently break his defenses, and Kolya just wasn't up to that standard today. He would overrun him with powerful shots in one rally, but then lose the next two with silly UEs. Too bad for him... Andy can be so frustrating to play against :devil:

Shrinking Violet
03-14-2007, 10:23 PM
Well done Andy :yeah: It is a bad match-up for him and he didn't play his best match but he kept it together at the right moments. How weird was that last game though? :lol: Great job - now hope Gonzo wins tonight because I don't think it would be a good match-up against Haas.

Great interview at the end as well. :yeah:

UDACHi
03-14-2007, 10:23 PM
Good win to make it Two-Two in his head-to-head stat against kolya. A player that always looked stronger and more powerful than Andy..well is now, frankly, his bitch ;)

Bravo Andy :)

how do you figure that? with that logic, isn't andy also nikolay's bitch? :o

kolya needs a good result. that was very bad tennis. where is the guy with the consistently deep and accurate groundstrokes that i watched in all of 2006?

return game was :help:.

JustJames
03-14-2007, 10:24 PM
Wow, TWO defeats in a row, yeah, that's truly a domination.

How about you wait until they play in faster courts or clay to see what will happen instead talking nonsense?

Maybe I will..!!!

And maybe...you should try to understand satire ;) (I wasn't being serious matey, I was just very happy with Andys win) :)

stebs
03-14-2007, 10:25 PM
Yeah, I watched the entire match, and while it wasn't spectacular, it really makes you think.

Andy hits like 3 deep moonballs in a row, and then slices it 1 micrometer above the net. No wonder Kolya just nets such low flying, low bouncing balls. Andy can really mix his game like crazy... you need to be rock-solid to be able to consistently break his defenses, and Kolya just wasn't up to that standard today. He would overrun him with powerful shots in one rally, but then lose the next two with silly UEs. Too bad for him... Andy can be so frustrating to play against :devil:

Best way to beat Murray is to demolish his second serve. Once in a rally Murray can outmanoever most players.

JustJames
03-14-2007, 10:25 PM
how do you figure that? with that logic, isn't andy also nikolay's bitch? :o

kolya needs a good result. that was very bad tennis. where is the guy with the consistently deep and accurate groundstrokes that i watched in all of 2006?

return game was :help:.

Yes I suppose it depends on how one looks at it..

And through my rose tinted glasses...Andy leads Kolya by 2 -2 ;)

stebs
03-14-2007, 10:28 PM
how do you figure that? with that logic, isn't andy also nikolay's bitch? :o

kolya needs a good result. that was very bad tennis. where is the guy with the consistently deep and accurate groundstrokes that i watched in all of 2006?

return game was :help:.

I don't know where that guy is but it was never Kolya. His strength was never consistent depth. In fact, as far as most players who enjoy long rallies go his shots are some of the shortest. Prefers to angle shots. Of course, he has the pinpoint accuracy for those DTL winners on the run and they land deep in court but his general rally style was never to hit deep over and over until the opponent gives way.

Kolya of late 2006 will be back soon though, he has a lot of points to pick up during the clay season.

Lullaby
03-14-2007, 10:28 PM
Best way to beat Murray is to demolish his second serve. Once in a rally Murray can outmanoever most players.

Some of his second serve placements were great today - In one game he won the game surprising everybody with a 2nd serve kicked out wide :)

I do wish andy would play more agressive at times as I believe he is good enough but he easily outsmarts many of his opponents - People are refering to davys UE's but the change of pace and height and angle continuously meant most would struggle

BlackSilver
03-14-2007, 10:32 PM
The faster surface thing I think you're wrong about, I recon it's pretty close. On all surfaces maybe something like this?

Murray on grass for sure
Davydenko on clay for sure
Murray 60-40 on a slow outdoor hardcourt
Davydenko 60-40 on a quick outdoor hardcourt
50-50 Indoors

How I can be wrong about it, if I didn't say that Davydenko is going to own him on faster surfaces or clay.


Anyway, my guess is:

Murray on grass easily
Davydenko on clay easily
Murray 75-25 on slow hardcourt (AOopen, miami, IW)
Davydenko 55-45 on fast outdoor hardcourt
Davydenko 65-35 on indoors

Kitty de Sade
03-14-2007, 10:32 PM
Nice one Andy. Every match of his is really fun to watch. Best of luck the rest of the way through. :yeah:

stebs
03-14-2007, 10:33 PM
Some of his second serve placements were great today - In one game he won the game surprising everybody with a 2nd serve kicked out wide :)

I do wish andy would play more agressive at times as I believe he is good enough but he easily outsmarts many of his opponents - People are refering to davys UE's but the change of pace and height and angle continuously meant most would struggle

Good to hear about the serves. I did not watch the match so I was speaking generally. If Murray can get his second serves good then he will be tough to beat because his first serve is already a weapon when he can get it working.

As for the agressive thing, I have to disagree. He should only play agressive when he HAS to like against Nadal or someone. Against most people the tactics he employs are clever and are working, trying to overpower and out hit is not Andy's natural game. He has a big backhand yes but it tends to be used every so often as a change of pace not as a consistent hitting device and his forehand is, more often than not, all about point construction.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
03-14-2007, 10:33 PM
Nobody ever gives Murray credit when he wins. It's always because the other guy played badly or was injured or tanked. I think it's because people think Murray has quite an irritating personality. Which may be true, but he certainly does have the skills.

Apemant
03-14-2007, 10:37 PM
Nobody ever gives Murray credit when he wins. It's always because the other guy played badly or was injured or tanked. I think it's because people think Murray has quite an irritating personality. Which may be true, but he certainly does have the skills.

On the contrary.. I like both his game AND his personality. Call me weird :devil:

JustJames
03-14-2007, 10:38 PM
On the contrary.. I like both his game AND his personality. Call me weird :devil:

Or Scottish. Lol.

Corey Feldman
03-14-2007, 10:39 PM
Nobody ever gives Murray credit when he wins. It's always because the other guy played badly or was injured or tanked. I think it's because people think Murray has quite an irritating personality. Which may be true, but he certainly does have the skills.Its a well known and proved fact at MTF, the greater the player... the greater the hating :yeah:

and No, Roddick is not the greatest player of all time as someone's siggy would then say

:lol:

Lullaby
03-14-2007, 10:41 PM
On the contrary.. I like both his game AND his personality. Call me weird :devil:

:worship: Me too and I am very much English :wavey:

Sunset of Age
03-14-2007, 10:42 PM
Well done Andy!

I didn't get the chance to witness the match tonight but I gather he did really well. Kudos to Teh Haggis!!!

Murraymaniac
03-14-2007, 10:44 PM
So many ups and downs from Davydenko. He was going from firing winners to incredible angles in one rally, to netting an easy overhead in the next.

As for Murray - serving wasn't impressive but he stepped it up when it mattered (first set TB) so can't complain too much. He had the variety to frustrate Davydenko and keep him honest.

Haas will be very, very tough whereas I think Murray could beat Gonzo in straight sets if they were to play. I'll be cheering for Gonzo tonight.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
03-14-2007, 10:44 PM
I quite like him as well, especially now he isn't going through that routine of clutching his shoulder or his stomach whenever the going gets tough. :)

Agassi Aces
03-14-2007, 10:47 PM
Great win from Murray........ Come on and win the title now!!!

musefanatic
03-14-2007, 10:49 PM
Wow great win Andy!!!!! :woohoo: Well done!!!!!!! :) Top 10 sooo beckons :)

Corey Feldman
03-14-2007, 10:50 PM
Kudos to Teh Haggis!!!Teh Haggis on a roll :bounce:

Sunset of Age
03-14-2007, 10:55 PM
Teh Haggis on a roll :bounce:

You might well say that! :yeah:

Teh Haggis, Teh A-Rod and Teh Paella are my main candidates for the title now... :D :p

stebs
03-14-2007, 10:55 PM
Teh Haggis on a roll :bounce:

Mad to think that as of the 6th of Feb '06 he was #62 and exactly a year later he was #13. This week he could potentially reach a new high but I think he would need another two wins which is pretty tough although possible.

Apemant
03-14-2007, 10:59 PM
Or Scottish. Lol.

Are you suggesting that only Scottish people can possibly like Andy? ;)

tripb19
03-14-2007, 11:02 PM
Impressive Murray, consistenly dangerous, not many brain farts.

I hope Haas wins tonight though.

bigbhoy
03-14-2007, 11:02 PM
Nobody ever gives Murray credit when he wins. It's always because the other guy played badly or was injured or tanked. I think it's because people think Murray has quite an irritating personality. Which may be true, but he certainly does have the skills.

I don't think it's his personality, I think it's more along the lines of when he first came through, he would act like a spoiled brat with his outburts at times. Therefore he gets all the hate, some just got into a routine with it, that it's now more a bad habit than anything.

However even at his worst, it was still better than people like Roddick or Safin at their best. Now he's just getting on with it a lot more, which is thanks in part to Gilbert in helping him mature. Federer was the same when he was young, even Henman when he was younger also. So I don't have a problem with what he does, it's nearly always directed at himself when he plays a bad point.

As for the agressive thing, I have to disagree. He should only play agressive when he HAS to like against Nadal or someone. Against most people the tactics he employs are clever and are working, trying to overpower and out hit is not Andy's natural game. He has a big backhand yes but it tends to be used every so often as a change of pace not as a consistent hitting device and his forehand is, more often than not, all about point construction.

While it isn't his normal game, he's shown before that he can do it. He's always had a powerful backhand, most were saying he didn't have a forehand. Which he proved he can use that as a weapon when needed. However he never uses attacking play as much as he should. I don't mean attack for every point, more simply when he plays a good shot, do a proper follow up.

He done it today a few times, where he got in a good shot, then had a piss poor follow up, where it came in short & bounced up high, Davydenko then got back to it & turned the tide with a hard shot into the corner. Murray then on the back foot lost the point.

Against people that can hit it well, you don't drop in a forehand that bounces up & invites a big hit. Davydenko didn't capitalize on as many of those that he would have liked. While I still remember a few that Gonzo climbed over in the US open last year.

That's why I feel that against someone like Haas, he'll be fairly easily beaten unless he plays at the top of his game. Gonzo he'll have more of a chance against, although if he drops in those weak forehands & backhand slices, I expect him to be punished for it.

So at times he really needs to be the aggressor more often, even if only to mix things up a little. Far too often throughout matches Murray is only too happy to get the back back into play & try to let the opponent make the mistake. The problem with that is if it's against a better player that is playing well, then they'll be making less mistakes & therefore he'll find himself in trouble.

JustJames
03-14-2007, 11:03 PM
Are you suggesting that only Scottish people can possibly like Andy? ;)

No of course not Lol. But it most definitely helps... ;)

scoobs
03-14-2007, 11:04 PM
The reason Murray doesn't get as much credit as he should is because a large proportion of his game is about making his opponent play badly by confusing them and outwitting them. It's less about big serving and more about giving his opponent a different kind of ball on every shot, totally disrupting any rhythm.

Apart from the 1st serve % and some occasions where he didn't take the chances he earned, he played a very intelligent tactical match that was designed to goad his opponent into error. He knows Davydenko is almost metronomic and he remembers well running for miles in their 2 '06 matches. He knows the best way to beat Davydenko if you can't overpower him or do what he does better than him, is to completely disrupt Davydenko's rhythm.

That's exactly what he did - forehands loaded with topspin right to the baseline followed by short backhand slices just skimming the net, very slow-paced shots alongside powerful flat backhands. Angles, up the middle....he was mixing it up as much as you can mix it up, almost.

The match wasn't pretty - it's not likely to be when the winning strategy is to get your opponent to either play too tentatively or go for too much. I don't know what Davydenko's UE count ended up but I'd imagine a good number of them could be put down to forced errors thanks to Murray bamboozling him.

I've seen Murray play better matches than that but he played the way he needed to play and he did it well enough to get it done in 2 sets, which against the world #4 is a terrific result.

I think he will need to play better to beat Gonzalez or Haas but I think it will be a different type of match that will require quite different strategies.

I'm really impressed he's managed to make it this far but there's still a lot to do.

Scotso
03-14-2007, 11:07 PM
Nikolay :sad:

awful match.

Apemant
03-14-2007, 11:18 PM
No of course not Lol. But it most definitely helps... ;)

Can't really argue against that :devil:

cherry@cupcake
03-14-2007, 11:28 PM
The reason Murray doesn't get as much credit as he should is because a large proportion of his game is about making his opponent play badly by confusing them and outwitting them. It's less about big serving and more about giving his opponent a different kind of ball on every shot, totally disrupting any rhythm.

Apart from the 1st serve % and some occasions where he didn't take the chances he earned, he played a very intelligent tactical match that was designed to goad his opponent into error. He knows Davydenko is almost metronomic and he remembers well running for miles in their 2 '06 matches. He knows the best way to beat Davydenko if you can't overpower him or do what he does better than him, is to completely disrupt Davydenko's rhythm.

That's exactly what he did - forehands loaded with topspin right to the baseline followed by short backhand slices just skimming the net, very slow-paced shots alongside powerful flat backhands. Angles, up the middle....he was mixing it up as much as you can mix it up, almost.

The match wasn't pretty - it's not likely to be when the winning strategy is to get your opponent to either play too tentatively or go for too much. I don't know what Davydenko's UE count ended up but I'd imagine a good number of them could be put down to forced errors thanks to Murray bamboozling him.

I've seen Murray play better matches than that but he played the way he needed to play and he did it well enough to get it done in 2 sets, which against the world #4 is a terrific result.

I think he will need to play better to beat Gonzalez or Haas but I think it will be a different type of match that will require quite different strategies.

I'm really impressed he's managed to make it this far but there's still a lot to do.

Yep.

adee-gee
03-14-2007, 11:46 PM
Not the greatest match you'll ever watch, but very smart tactically from Andy.

Davydenko loves to get into a groove, and Muzza just didn't let him. Varied the pace of his shots brilliantly, and Davydenko made a ton of errors. Smart, smart display.

cmurray
03-14-2007, 11:50 PM
I REALLY like watching Murray play tennis. In terms of outright tennis and match construction, he is probably my favorite. You can see his mind calculating each shot as though he were playing a chess match instead of a tennis match. Don't get me wrong - I understand why some people don't like that style, but I enjoy watching Murray outthink his opponent.

And frankly, I kinda like Murray's personality. He's a funny guy.

tripb19
03-15-2007, 12:23 AM
I REALLY like watching Murray play tennis. In terms of outright tennis and match construction, he is probably my favorite. You can see his mind calculating each shot as though he were playing a chess match instead of a tennis match. Don't get me wrong - I understand why some people don't like that style, but I enjoy watching Murray outthink his opponent.

+1


The way he completely understands the physics of the game shows in his effortless BH which I compare to Fed's effortless FH. He has a very good mind and even if I'm sort of neutral about his personality, I love watching him play. His variation today was very impressive, he looked like he belonged on the tennis court much more than PMK.

Kolya
03-15-2007, 12:25 AM
What's up with Kolya?

Did he play a bad match? or was Murray too good?

tripb19
03-15-2007, 12:28 AM
What's up with Kolya?

Did he play a bad match? or was Murray too good?

Murray played the critical points perfectly, and his first serve (when it went in) was devastating. Murray changed pace alot and Kolya could not get rhythm, and when Kolya approached the net he was hitting alot of swinging volleys for errors.

Kolya
03-15-2007, 12:31 AM
Murray played the critical points perfectly, and his first serve (when it went in) was devastating. Murray changed pace alot and Kolya could not get rhythm, and when Kolya approached the net he was hitting alot of swinging volleys for errors.

Swinging volleys lol, thats typical Kolya. He needs to learn to volley to finish off good groundstrokes.

New coach? maybe...

kundalini
03-15-2007, 01:02 AM
Kolya was actually winning a high percentage of the points at the net, it was Murray's moon balls and high bouncing second serve that troubled him. In the two matches between the players last year Davydenko had spells when he got confused and starting making a lot of errors but he managed to get his head together eventually and ran out a comfortable winner. This time around he just made so many errors and didn't get the free points that Murray's first serve generated when it went in, most noticeably in the tiebreak.

Kolya was awful, Murray beat him with variety of pace and spins, but Andy made far too many unforced errors for someone who barely tried to hit a winner all match.

Henry Chinaski
03-15-2007, 02:12 AM
The reason Murray doesn't get as much credit as he should is because a large proportion of his game is about making his opponent play badly by confusing them and outwitting them. It's less about big serving and more about giving his opponent a different kind of ball on every shot, totally disrupting any rhythm.



Doesn't get enough credit from whom exactly?
Every commentator and pundit I ever have to suffer glorifies his every move and talks of him reaching the top 5 and winning grand slams like it's totally inevitable.
Tonight for example on the few occasions he went for a winner the commentators were waxing lyrical about his incredible "bravery". Every time Davydenko came to the net it was because Murray had "lured" him there.
Personally I believe he warrants a certain amount of hype but it goes completely overboard a bit much for my liking and to suggest he doesn't get enough credit in general is absurd.

bigbhoy
03-15-2007, 02:33 AM
Doesn't get enough credit from whom exactly?
Every commentator and pundit I ever have to suffer glorifies his every move and talks of him reaching the top 5 and winning grand slams like it's totally inevitable.
Tonight for example on the few occasions he went for a winner the commentators were waxing lyrical about his incredible "bravery". Every time Davydenko came to the net it was because Murray had "lured" him there.
Personally I believe he warrants a certain amount of hype but it goes completely overboard a bit much for my liking and to suggest he doesn't get enough credit in general is absurd.

I think Scoobs was referring to some on MTF, where he usually gets written off & dissed a large majority of the time!

keqtqiadv
03-15-2007, 02:58 AM
Koyla, you had your chances :o

*Viva Chile*
03-15-2007, 03:00 AM
Andy :yeah:

Corswandt
03-15-2007, 03:10 AM
I watched a couple of games, and from what I saw Murray was just defending and dumping the balls back to davydenko who wasnt consistent enough to put them away as winners, instead into the net.

That's Murray's game. Good defense, junkballing and high % play. A bit awkward looking but effective.

Corswandt
03-15-2007, 03:12 AM
Kolya was actually winning a high percentage of the points at the net, it was Murray's moon balls and high bouncing second serve that troubled him.

[...]

Kolya was awful, Murray beat him with variety of pace and spins, but Andy made far too many unforced errors for someone who barely tried to hit a winner all match.

Yup, that too.

TennisLurker
03-15-2007, 03:56 AM
Murray is the kind of player I like, chessy junkballing baseliners.

jazar
03-15-2007, 07:52 AM
bad luck kolya

t0x
03-15-2007, 08:40 AM
So many different spins, paces and heights above the net from Murray. He didn't give Davydenko any rhymn and that was enough to do it....

Davydenko was surprisingly good at the net.. apart from when Murray floated the ball back with no pace, then he netted it half the time.

Well played Murray!

Puschkin
03-15-2007, 09:06 AM
I REALLY like watching Murray play tennis. In terms of outright tennis and match construction, he is probably my favorite. You can see his mind calculating each shot as though he were playing a chess match instead of a tennis match.

I'd prefer to watch a real chess match then. :p I found it very poor from both, tons of errors on both sides, I am rather sure both have a negative winner/error stat. Do you really think this attractive tennis?

Apemant
03-15-2007, 10:47 AM
I'd prefer to watch a real chess match then. :p I found it very poor from both, tons of errors on both sides, I am rather sure both have a negative winner/error stat. Do you really think this attractive tennis?

Let me put it this way: if EVERY tennis match looked like this, I'd be bored to death sooner than later.

BUT, this thing is precisely why I like tennis in general: there are SO MANY totally different styles of playing. I wouldn't want any of those styles scraped. The diversity is what makes tennis a great game. Murray's style is entertaining because it's unusual: you watch him play and almost 'can't explain' how he wins matches. But he sure does. :devil:

Jogy
03-15-2007, 11:02 AM
Now that is what I liking best. Murray making Davydenko look like a disorientated jerk on court :lol: well done!

cmurray
03-15-2007, 11:57 AM
Let me put it this way: if EVERY tennis match looked like this, I'd be bored to death sooner than later.

BUT, this thing is precisely why I like tennis in general: there are SO MANY totally different styles of playing. I wouldn't want any of those styles scraped. The diversity is what makes tennis a great game. Murray's style is entertaining because it's unusual: you watch him play and almost 'can't explain' how he wins matches. But he sure does. :devil:

Oh, absolutely. It is the very fact that Murray knows how to win that makes me enjoy him so much. Davydenko was in poor form...Murray knew all he had to do was take him out of his rhythm (which he did) and get balls back (which he did) and Kolya would donate UEs (which he did). VERY smart kid.

my0118
03-15-2007, 12:59 PM
Yay!! Murray plays better than his looks!! :yeah:

cmurray
03-15-2007, 01:00 PM
Yay!! Murray plays better than his looks!! :yeah:

He'd almost have to, wouldn't he? :p

Sunset of Age
03-15-2007, 02:25 PM
Yay!! Murray plays better than his looks!! :yeah:

There's not much needed for that... :p
I like the bloke, though. Good win for Teh Haggis, now get some more!

Merton
03-15-2007, 02:29 PM
Murray scored an important victory against a tough opponent. He appears more solid this year than last year, something necessary for him to improve further. Well done.

MaryWalsh
03-15-2007, 03:37 PM
. . . BUT, this thing is precisely why I like tennis in general: there are SO MANY totally different styles of playing. I wouldn't want any of those styles scraped. The diversity is what makes tennis a great game. . . .

Enlightened!!!! :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

RogiFan88
03-15-2007, 04:15 PM
such a borefest of a match...