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New organisation of clay court season

KrisJB
03-14-2007, 10:06 AM
In order to avoid any problems related to fatigue of players the tournaments shall be in the following order:

from 16th April - Monte Carlo
from 23th April - Barcelona, Casablanca
from 30th April - Rome
from 7th May - Estoril, Munich
from 14th May - Hamburg

Thus players could have some rest after Rome, all 3 TMS could be maintained and Hamburg draw could be stronger than usually.

Action Jackson
03-14-2007, 10:08 AM
Too logical.

Horatio Caine
03-14-2007, 02:38 PM
Is this official, or is this another one of those boring ideas supplied by a tennis fan?

All_Slam_Andre
03-14-2007, 03:01 PM
I good idea, although the Spanish players wouldn't be happy with having to play Monte-Carlo-Barcelona-Rome in 3 successive weeks, Nadal in particular as he is guaranteed to go deep in every event.

Action Jackson
03-14-2007, 03:03 PM
Is this official, or is this another one of those boring ideas supplied by a tennis fan?

As if that would be official Disney bitch? Your hero wouldn't have that much of a thought process to think of that:)

jazar
03-14-2007, 03:36 PM
makes sense

KrisJB
03-14-2007, 05:09 PM
There is also another option for players like Nadal to avoid three top tournaments in a row:

from 9th April - Barcelona
from 16th April - Monte Carlo
from 23th April - Valencia, Casablanca
from 30th April - Rome
from 7th May - Estoril, Munich
from 14th May - Hamburg

Jimnik
03-14-2007, 05:54 PM
How about something like this:

19 March - Vina del Mar, Houston
26 March - Costa do Sauipe, Acapulco
02 April - AMS Buenos Aires
09 April - Davis Cup
16 April - Casablanca, Valencia
23 April - AMS Monte-Carlo
30 April - Barcelona, Munich
07 May - Estoril, Palermo
14 May - AMS Rome
21 May - Poertschach, WTC
28 May - Roland Garros

CyBorg
03-14-2007, 06:02 PM
WTF is this?

Please post clearly if you are posting something official or just being an a-hole.
:mad:

Adler
03-14-2007, 06:18 PM
How about something like this:

19 March - Vina del Mar, Houston
26 March - Costa do Sauipe, Acapulco
02 April - AMS Buenos Aires
09 April - Davis Cup
16 April - Casablanca, Valencia
23 April - AMS Monte-Carlo
30 April - Barcelona, Munich
07 May - Estoril, Palermo
14 May - AMS Rome
21 May - Poertschach, WTC
28 May - Roland Garros
sounds good. But they should make AMS in Barcelona instead of Monte Carlo/Rome, i think the reason is obvious (hint: it's not just Nadal)

JMG
03-14-2007, 06:22 PM
WTF is this?

Please post clearly if you are posting something official or just being an a-hole.
:mad:

:lol:

Adler
03-14-2007, 06:25 PM
come on, it's better than another thread about an ass or dick of a particular tennis player

Jimnik
03-14-2007, 06:58 PM
sounds good. But they should make AMS in Barcelona instead of Monte Carlo/Rome, i think the reason is obvious (hint: it's not just Nadal)
I don't think anyone will want to change Monte-Carlo or Rome. They're two of the most popular tournaments of the year and there's too much tradition.

Adler
03-14-2007, 07:03 PM
I agree, but don't you think Spain deserves a clay AMS event? I mean they always had great players on the surface

CyBorg
03-14-2007, 07:04 PM
come on, it's better than another thread about an ass or dick of a particular tennis player

The basic idea behind it is good, but the presentation gets on my nerves. All I ask is that people think before they post.

P.S. I like Jimnik's post. Barcelona should not be the only event sandwiched between Monte Carlo and Rome. There should be at least two weeks in between. Otherwise a fine tourney like Barcelona would become virtually deserted.

kapranos
03-14-2007, 07:18 PM
It's really fun n' all to make our own little schedule, but there are many constrains when they're making a schedule, some of them we don't even know what they are.

I prefer the way the schedule is now anyway; they should bring back 56 players draw and scrap the 5 sets final. That way there is absolutely no problem to hold 2 MS in a row, like the Canadian Open and Cincinatti.

KrisJB
03-14-2007, 08:15 PM
imho TMS Masters Series like Canadian Open and Cincinnati or Rome and Hamburg shall not follow each other. It shall be like Madrid and Bercy with one week break. Indian Wells and Miami are a very different story due to the fact these events are 10 or 12 days ones and there are a few days to have some rest.

I don't understand so many doubts about such change in a calendar. If de Villiers and company want to have as strong fields as possible they shall deload the schedule. I suppose that if Paris followed Madrid the field would be a challenger like.

Johnny Groove
03-14-2007, 11:16 PM
How about something like this:

19 March - Vina del Mar, Houston
26 March - Costa do Sauipe, Acapulco
02 April - AMS Buenos Aires
09 April - Davis Cup
16 April - Casablanca, Valencia
23 April - AMS Monte-Carlo
30 April - Barcelona, Munich
07 May - Estoril, Palermo
14 May - AMS Rome
21 May - Poertschach, WTC
28 May - Roland Garros

so Indian Wells and Miami just disappear?

Jimnik
03-15-2007, 12:05 AM
so Indian Wells and Miami just disappear?
Nope. If you want the whole story, here it is:

15 Jan - Australian Open
29 Jan - Delray Beach, Zagreb
05 Feb - Davis Cup
12 Feb - San Jose, Marseille
19 Feb - Memphis, Rotterdam
26 Feb - Indian Wells, Dubai
05 Mar - AMS Miami
19 Mar - Vina del Mar, Houston
etc..

Johnny Groove
03-15-2007, 12:22 AM
Nope. If you want the whole story, here it is:

15 Jan - Australian Open
29 Jan - Delray Beach, Zagreb
05 Feb - Davis Cup
12 Feb - San Jose, Marseille
19 Feb - Memphis, Rotterdam
26 Feb - Indian Wells, Dubai
05 Mar - AMS Miami
19 Mar - Vina del Mar, Houston
etc..

You want Indian Wells and Dubai in the same week? and then IW is now only a one week tourney?

Jimnik
03-15-2007, 12:31 AM
You want Indian Wells and Dubai in the same week? and then IW is now only a one week tourney?
We're getting a bit off topic here but yes sacrifices need to be made. IMO there should be Masters Series events in South America and Asia. This means relegating one of the American and one of the European events. IW could go back to being a one week event with maybe a 48 player draw.

Johnny Groove
03-15-2007, 12:32 AM
We're getting a bit off topic here but yes sacrifices need to be made. IMO there should be Masters Series events in South America and Asia. This means relegating one of the American and one of the European events. IW could go back to being a one week event with maybe a 48 player draw.

um, having Dubai and IW in the same week compromises the effectiveness of a TMS event, as Dubai usually gets a great field.

But, yes, we are getting off-topic, i understand your points of view, i just dont agree with them :p

Jimnik
03-15-2007, 12:36 AM
um, having Dubai and IW in the same week compromises the effectiveness of a TMS event, as Dubai usually gets a great field.

But, yes, we are getting off-topic, i understand your points of view, i just dont agree with them :p
If IW takes place the same week as Dubai, it isn't a TMS, is it. :p

Increasing the total number of Masters Series events is not an option, so you have to sacrifice one to promote another.

Johnny Groove
03-15-2007, 12:38 AM
If IW takes place the same week as Dubai, it isn't a TMS, is it. :p

Increasing the total number of Masters Series events is not an option, so you have to sacrifice one to promote another.

ahhh, i see your point :yeah:

eh, i dunno, alot of people might bitch about IW loses TMS status