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Is Lleyton Hewitt a "phenomenon?"

Gonzo Hates Me!
08-15-2002, 10:18 PM
I think he is :D

Scotso
08-15-2002, 10:52 PM
The best kind.

Static
08-15-2002, 10:57 PM
Yup :D

Angele
08-15-2002, 11:00 PM
Definetly :D

Chloe le Bopper
08-15-2002, 11:09 PM
Are you actually wanting a debate?

AdriRob
08-15-2002, 11:10 PM
No he's not....he is just playing good tennis in the right moment.
None of the top players is having a good moment right now, and Hewitt is in the very top of his game.

Murkofan
08-15-2002, 11:25 PM
Of course he's a phenomenon.

It's not his fault the other "top players" are head cases.

Pea
08-15-2002, 11:27 PM
I knew he would be a phenom back in 1997!:o

luvbadboys
08-15-2002, 11:43 PM
HELL YEAH!
First the obvious: youngest #1 ever,

2) compared to Andre who at 21 had 1 slam and Pete 21 who had 1 slam Lleyton has 2,

3)At 21 he has 16/17? title Pete had 18,

4)at 16 turns pro, beats Andre Agassi who in 98 was at the top of his game and gets first professional title.

5) last year he had an 80-17 win loss record

6) has been on top of the entry rankings list since dec 2001

These are just the stats I have in my head, more research is required unless someone else can put up more info. I know there's lots more.

This is for the romance fans:) also I don't know if that's a mark of a phenom or not but he accomplished all this while maintaining a high profile long term relationship

Are you asking for a comparison to the current group of 18-22 year old on the circuit or a comparison to past greats?

Chloe le Bopper
08-15-2002, 11:48 PM
I think the choice word might be prodigy, but phenomenon has the same effect I suppose.

tennischick
08-16-2002, 12:36 AM
yeah he is a phenomenonal shithead. and yeah he plays great tennis too! :eek:

Chloe le Bopper
08-16-2002, 01:13 AM
lol @ tennischick ;)

hail2guga
08-16-2002, 02:10 AM
Well, I don't think he will win as many grandslams as pete or even andre. He has beaten many top guys in the regular tournamens. However, I think in his grandslams victories, he has not faced the top contenders like federer, safin, or haas. If he beats these guys consistently on his way to win more grandslams then I will admit he is a phenomenon.

But I don't think he will last that long in the number one spot.

Jackie
08-16-2002, 04:43 AM
Ths US Open will reveal all

Gonzo Hates Me!
08-16-2002, 04:57 AM
Yes Rebecca, this wasn't actually to be a Llkeyi thread to drool over Lleyton, but dude, I am all for it!!! Lleyton rocks!! Anyway, I was just curious if people considered him a real phenomenom, who is just dominating like crazy--impossible to beat... and I think that makes for a great debate. It's a serious question.


...Marly, hahahaha!!!!

Dissident
08-16-2002, 05:00 AM
His mind control and focus is phenomenal.
He is a great player, but what makes him get to the top is the mind and his anticipation. If any of you have the opportunity to see him play live, just check him on defensive. The opponent is not even hitting the ball yet and he is already running to the place where it is gonna be hit. :eek:

As much as I dont like him I have to admit that.

safin_fan
08-16-2002, 05:17 AM
I admire his work ethic!

luvbadboys
08-16-2002, 06:49 AM
Well he just lost to Rusedski . But that does not worry me he had a sucky lead up to last year's USOPEN also but what I'd like to know is: does anyone know if he's happy with the way he played like after he lost to Moya or does he feel that his game is not there? Basically I'm asking where is his confidence level?

lurker
08-16-2002, 02:24 PM
I don't think he is happy with the Moya match because he even stated that he knows he's got to work on taking the big points better...something he didn't do in that match.

I agree with the anticipation thing...that's why Moya troubled him so much. No one can tell where he's gonna go with the forehand and he wasn't missing either, like Gonzalez. And net rushers like Rusedski have to be on top of their game to beat him. Volleys cut off return time. Hewitt gets all over Sampras because he anticipates the serve better and usually passes him at will. Both Moya and Rusedski involve a slow ball game then generate pace only to attack...Moya from the back court and Rusedski from the net. This also garners more errors from Hewitt when he tries to attack.

tennischick
08-16-2002, 02:40 PM
absoluetly lurker. it's the lack of pace that seems to throw hewitt off -- and greg is really good at slicing and dicing the ball and forcing you to generate your own pace. that and deep topspin (Moya) seem to be the key to beating hewitt. and the more guys that figure this out, the more he will have dificculty avoiding being peeled. however his lead at #1 is so huge that he won't be passed any time soon.

Gandalf
08-16-2002, 04:34 PM
His mind is a phenomenon, his tennis not that much...even though he's a very good player I wouldn't consider him 'great' as Pete or André are. His fighting and court savy are his strenghts, but overall I find him just 'solid'.

irma
08-16-2002, 04:47 PM
well he is irritating, he dates the sweetest girl in the wta :D, he keeps people talking about him and he has the results .

So yes in fact he is despite that he can be annoying :D

Lily
08-16-2002, 07:47 PM
Hewitt isn't impossible to beat, but to answer the question- yes.

Layla
08-16-2002, 08:34 PM
Of course he's a phenomenon, for all the reasons luvbadboys stated and more. What else do you call someone who is 2000 points ahead of everyone :eek:

I just wish the media would finally warm up to him. It's a shame that they have to constantly bash the number one player. :rolleyes:

While Lleyton doesn't have the greatest game in the world, the whole package is definitely phenomenal and it obviously produces results. But unbeatable? I don't know about that.

Originally posted by hail2guga
Well, I don't think he will win as many grandslams as pete or even andre. He has beaten many top guys in the regular tournamens. However, I think in his grandslams victories, he has not faced the top contenders like federer, safin, or haas.

Don't you consider Sampras at the US Open a top conteder? :confused:

Jackie
08-17-2002, 02:30 AM
At this stage I think Sampras would need a bloody good draw in order to do well in the US. I'm not denying that he is still a good player, but he was a great player. After about 10 years of dominating, he had to burn out sometime

safin_fan
08-17-2002, 05:58 AM
Hewitt a phenomenon? Not quite. Hewitt's head with Safin's game, now that's a phenomenon!

Jackie
08-17-2002, 06:10 AM
?

Layla
08-17-2002, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by untitled2284
At this stage I think Sampras would need a bloody good draw in order to do well in the US. I'm not denying that he is still a good player, but he was a great player. After about 10 years of dominating, he had to burn out sometime

No, I meant last year. He was a contender last year when Lleyton defeated him in the final. I was just saying that was a great win for Lleyton. I think Pete's chances this year are pretty slim, actually.

Experimentee
08-17-2002, 02:43 PM
Hes not a phenomenon he just happened to play his best tennis at a time when the top players were all dropping out early. I think to be truly great you have to beat the best and Hewitt didnt do that in either of his Grand Slam wins.
Beating Sampras in the final last year was a fairly good win, but at that stage Sampras was starting to decline and he'd played a lot of tennis for an old guy that week.
And its not like Hewitt is unbeatable this year either, he's had recent losses to Mantilla, Moya and Rusedski, so hes not dominating the tour. He's just had less bad losses than any other top 10 player.