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El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:06 PM
Ivan had nothing today, playing a 3hour late match and early match today was too much for Ivan and Youzhny didnt miss much :D

:wavey:

scarecrows
02-25-2007, 02:08 PM
pathetic :p

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-25-2007, 02:08 PM
What a shame.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:09 PM
Congrats on a great week and a stellar start to the year Misha!! :yeah: :bounce:

He is the best performer indoors so far this year...with Baghdatis a close second. Murray, Haas, Roddick and Ljubo close behind.

Ljubo's return stats = :help: :tape: :o

Discuss! :devil: :drool:


:wavey:

TheBoiledEgg
02-25-2007, 02:09 PM
Misha outclassed him totally :banana: :D

great returns, brill play :yeah: :D

Misha and another title :woohoo:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:09 PM
the crowd seemed disappointed :lol:

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:10 PM
Easy 6-2 6-4 win, congrats :yeah:

ivan is well on his way out of the top 20!!!

:woohoo:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 02:10 PM
Misha :worship:

Clearly the better player today... and overcame his choking as well. I want to see him in top 10


Ljubo wasn't there today... just occasional winners here and there. Not much of an effort...

Five
02-25-2007, 02:10 PM
Misha ;) ;);)

Blue Heart24
02-25-2007, 02:10 PM
Ivan will NEVER,NEVER be the same player who had all this good results and reached top 5.

Billabong
02-25-2007, 02:10 PM
Misha:woohoo:!!! First title since 2004 St. Petersburg:D, congrats man:banana:!!!

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 02:11 PM
:haha:
:haha:
:haha:

Who is Ljubicic ?? :rolleyes:

TheBoiledEgg
02-25-2007, 02:11 PM
once Miami and RG come off......... bye bye top 10 for ever, or even top 20

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 02:11 PM
Congrats to Youzhny. He has been playing too well this year to have nothing to show for.

marcelwks
02-25-2007, 02:11 PM
Finally Misha :bowdown: I hope he will win another titles this year :)

Voo de Mar
02-25-2007, 02:12 PM
Easier than I expected.
Anyway congrats to Misha - he has more potential than his three singles titles :)

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:12 PM
once Miami and RG come off......... bye bye top 10 for ever, or even top 20

once USO, Madrid and Paris come, top 10 again and you :tears: :wavey:

Rogiman
02-25-2007, 02:12 PM
What an overdue win over Ljubo, he should have won the last few encounters too.

B.B.
02-25-2007, 02:13 PM
Yay Youzhny! :worship: :worship: :worship:

Fergie
02-25-2007, 02:14 PM
Congrats Misha for another fantastic week :worship:

Ivan :hug:

And for the pathetic schedule of play :smash:

adee-gee
02-25-2007, 02:14 PM
Tank from Ivan, he realised he couldn't afford to buy everyone drinks :shrug:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:15 PM
Tank from Ivan, he realised he couldn't afford to buy everyone drinks :shrug:

:lol:

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 02:15 PM
once USO, Madrid and Paris come, top 10 again and you :tears: :wavey:

yeah live in dreams longer, if he will be out of Top20 he would get hard draws in every tournament and guys like Federer, Murray, Nadal, Baggy are more than capable of beating him. without high seeding he won't to much damage at UsOpen, maybe he will get some wins in indoor tournaments but if at indorr Masters whole top10 shows up he is out of Top10 for good

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 02:16 PM
Tank from Ivan, he realised he couldn't afford to buy everyone drinks :shrug:

Ivan could afford to buy the whole country of England a new dental plan and that is saying a lot :wavey:

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:16 PM
Congrats Misha :yeah:

Jimnik
02-25-2007, 02:17 PM
Nice win Youzhny. :yeah:

Wasn't the h2h 6-0 before today?

The downward spiral continues for Ljubicic.

Adler
02-25-2007, 02:17 PM
Great tournament from Misha. Came back from the dead in SF and then defeated his nemezis. Great chance of take a place in Top 10, but it won't last long I'm afraid

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:18 PM
Ivan could afford to buy the whole country of England a new dental plan and that is saying a lot :wavey:

:rolls:

TheBoiledEgg
02-25-2007, 02:18 PM
Ivan could afford to buy the whole country of England a new dental plan and that is saying a lot :wavey:

why you telling him that
he's Scottish :rolls:

yomike
02-25-2007, 02:18 PM
and Ivan does it again, 4-0 to Blake and loses. 6-0 to Youzhny and this is all he could come up. GO TO HELL IVAN and bring Federer and Roddick with you while your at it

gebl
02-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Nice win Youzhny. :yeah:

Wasn't the h2h 6-0 before today?

The downward spiral continues for Ljubicic.

correct

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Nice win Youzhny. :yeah:

Wasn't the h2h 6-0 before today?

The downward spiral continues for Ljubicic.

losing in a final...just terrible :wavey:

rrfnpump
02-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Misha :woohoo: :)
well done, great week!

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Ivan could afford to buy the whole country of England a new dental plan and that is saying a lot :wavey:

so why can't afford new hair and healthy theeth ?? :rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:20 PM
Ivan could afford to buy the whole country of England a new dental plan and that is saying a lot :wavey:

So why doesn't he get hair extensions? :shrug:

:wavey:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 02:20 PM
:haha:
:haha:
:haha:

Who is Ljubicic ?? :rolleyes:

Umm, Ljubicic is a man that millions of people heard about. On the other hand, Loremaster is a person who is probably better known as 'Loremaster' on MTF (mainly for posting nonsense, that is), than in his real life. So it really makes very much sense for YOU to ask who HE is. :smash:

Actually, Ljubicic is someone who even trolls like you bother to discuss. Way to go in making yourself look :silly:

scoobs
02-25-2007, 02:20 PM
Well done to Youzhny - if you're going to start to reverse a 6-0 H2H deficit, doing it in a tournament final is a great place to start :)

tochilka
02-25-2007, 02:21 PM
Misha!!:worship:
He played great today! so few UE!
With the game like that Ivan must be out if 20 definately!

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:22 PM
Youzhny was serving great today, and Ljubo's return was :help: Good match by Youzhny and he deserved this win.

croat123
02-25-2007, 02:22 PM
here come the haters

ivan sucks, he's done, blah blah blah

it's not like he's made 3 finals this year

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 02:22 PM
And the really funny thing is Ljubo is still having a much better year than Rafa and all his fans are here saying ljubo will be out of the top 20. Where the hell does that put nadal?

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:23 PM
once USO, Madrid and Paris come, top 10 again and you :tears: :wavey:

Once Lalo comes along again, :wavey: to Ljubo...

:dance:

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 02:23 PM
Umm, Ljubicic is a man that millions of people heard about. On the other hand, Loremaster is a person who is probably better known as 'Loremaster' on MTF (mainly for posting nonsense, that is), than in his real life. So it really makes very much sense for YOU to ask who HE is. :smash:

Actually, Ljubicic is someone who even trolls like you bother to discuss. Way to go in making yourself look :silly:

:haha: yeah millions of people :haha: maybe as a qualifier or umpire

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:24 PM
And the really funny thing is Ljubo is still having a much better year than Rafa and all his fans are here saying ljubo will be out of the top 20. Where the hell does that put nadal?

I'm no great fan of Rafa, but here are his last 4 GS results:

W F QF QF

Need I say more?

:wavey:

adee-gee
02-25-2007, 02:24 PM
here come the haters

ivan sucks, he's done, blah blah blah

it's not like he's made 3 finals this year
How many has he won? :scratch:

Klaas_nalbandian
02-25-2007, 02:24 PM
It never was a match, ljubo looked very tired although I'm happy Mikhail won a more exciting final would have been nice. But after two semi finals like yesterday it was hard to give us a better match

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 02:24 PM
And the really funny thing is Ljubo is still having a much better year than Rafa and all his fans are here saying ljubo will be out of the top 20. Where the hell does that put nadal?

sure Rafa made a QF of SLAM , and Ljubo is making finals of small tournaments
At all comparing Ljubo to Rafa is stupid :rolleyes:

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 02:25 PM
I'm no great fan of Rafa, but here are his last 4 GS results:

W F QF QF

Need I say more?

:wavey:

Guess you missed the part where i said this year.

Clara Bow
02-25-2007, 02:25 PM
Congrats to Misha! He played well this week and it is nice to see it rewarded with a title. He is a very enjoyable player to watch. :)

Too bad that this thread has been derailed yet again as to who sucks more - Luby or Rafa. (For the record, I don't think either suck.)

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:25 PM
I'm no great fan of Rafa, but here are his last 4 GS results:

W F QF QF

Need I say more?

:wavey:

I didn't know there were 4 Grand Slams played this year.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:26 PM
Guess you missed the part where i said this year.

Okay then...this year's GS results...

Nadal: QF
Ljubicic: R1

Need I say more?

:wavey:

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Guess you missed the part where i said this year.

This year there has been 1 slam.

Nadal lost to Gonzalez in the QF

Ljubicic lost to Fish :retard: in the 1st round.

And you were saying? :lol:

:wavey:

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Okay then...this year's GS results...

Nadal: QF
Ljubicic: R1

Need I say more?

:wavey:

+ other tournaments

Ljubo 1 title and 2 more finals
Nadal 1 SF and being :scared: against Guccione

muniu
02-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Misha :woohoo: nice match hope for Top 10 soon :D
Ljubo gl in rest of the year!!

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:27 PM
sure Rafa made a QF of SLAM , and Ljubo is making finals of small tournaments
At all comparing Ljubo to Rafa is stupid :rolleyes:

takes 4 wins to a GS QF and 4 wins to small tourny final
and you pretty much play same ranked players.
take Nadals Wim. first 4 matches and Ivans 4 matches this week. much harder draw for Ivan. :wavey:

Owned.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:28 PM
+ other tournaments

Ljubo 1 title and 2 more finals
Nadal 1 SF and being :scared: against Guccione

So what does Ljubo do when he fills up his other 2 optionals with finals?

:wavey:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:29 PM
takes 4 wins to a GS QF and 4 wins to small tourny final

Owned.

How can you compare that?!! That's like comparing apples and pears!

:wavey:

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 02:30 PM
takes 4 wins to a GS QF and 4 wins to small tourny final
and you pretty much play same ranked players.
take Nadals Wim. first 4 matches and Ivans 4 matches this week. much harder draw for Ivan. :wavey:

Owned.

:haha: sorry comparing GS to small tourney is :eek: :eek:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:30 PM
So what does Ljubo do when he fills up his other 2 optionals with finals?

:wavey:

when that happens, the last part of season will be going on. where Ivan has his best surfaces left and nothing to defend :)

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:31 PM
takes 4 wins to a GS QF and 4 wins to small tourny final
and you pretty much play same ranked players.
take Nadals Wim. first 4 matches and Ivans 4 matches this week. much harder draw for Ivan. :wavey:

Owned.

Comparing an optional to a slam = :retard:

but I expect nothing less from you :kiss:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 02:32 PM
:haha: yeah millions of people :haha: maybe as a qualifier or umpire

Exactly. Let's assume noone outside of Croatia ever heard him, which is actually nonsensical, but for the sake of argument...

Now according to Wikipedia, Croatia has about 4.5 million inhabitants. So if only 25% Croats heard of Ljubo (which is totally impossible given his DC win which was probably in all the newspapers around the country), it's already more than a million.

Look, don't try to be smart with me. You are only sounding more stupid with each post. Outside of your family and your highschool class, who knows that you even exist? This is not to say that I'm much different than that, but I don't go out and ridicule the popularity of people who are 10000 times more known than me, like you do. And you do it in fact rather seriously and with no style whatsoever, unlike tangy who is at least funny at times.

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:32 PM
So what does Ljubo do when he fills up his other 2 optionals with finals?

:wavey:

What does he do? He lost 2 finals, so what? at least he played 3 finals this year. Rafatard :wavey:

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:32 PM
when that happens, the last part of season will be going on. where Ivan has his best surfaces left and nothing to defend :)

Best surfaces? :lol:

Like the surface he lost to Murray on? :retard:

:haha:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:33 PM
What does he do? He lost 2 finals, so what? at least he played 3 finals this year. Rafatard :wavey:

I don't support Rafa, Croatard :lol:

:wavey:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:33 PM
How can you compare that?!! That's like comparing apples and pears!

:wavey:
its not like im comparing QF to QF

Kendrick, Robert (USA)
Kohlschreiber, Philipp (GER)
Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI)
Murray, Andy (GBR)

de Bakker
O. Rochus
Mayer
Davydenko

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:34 PM
I don't support Rafa, Croatard :lol:

:wavey:

Then why do you act like one?

cmurray
02-25-2007, 02:34 PM
How did this get to be about Rafa again? Yeesh.

Nice work, Misha! He's on his way back, no doubt about it.

I'm happy to see him back in the mix.

tt boy
02-25-2007, 02:34 PM
NICE IVANhttp://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4968/ahhhhhhhwa2.gifhttp://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3637/monstersinc71ox0.gif

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:35 PM
Best surfaces? :lol:

Like the surface he lost to Murray on? :retard:

:haha:

or the surface he easily beat Murray in Doha :retard:

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:35 PM
What does he do? He lost 2 finals, so what? at least he played 3 finals this year. Rafatard :wavey:

In the only big tournament of the year, he lost to MARDY FISH in the FIRST ROUND :haha:.

No matter what he does, he can't make up for that.

:wavey:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:36 PM
ignore Jez, he is a huge Ljubo fan when Ivan wins :lol: he is the General of the Ljubo Bandwagon :yeah:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:36 PM
its not like im comparing QF to QF

Kendrick, Robert (USA)
Kohlschreiber, Philipp (GER)
Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI)
Murray, Andy (GBR)

de Bakker
O. Rochus
Mayer
Davydenko

de Bakker - who is he?
Ollie - not a threat indoors to a big server
Mayer - who?
Davydenko - good win, but kind of expected

Still, you can't compare an optional to a Slam...and you forget Ljubo's joke RG draw last year where he beat no-one in top 60 :lol:

:wavey:

Clara Bow
02-25-2007, 02:37 PM
How did this get to be about Rafa again? Yeesh.

Nice work, Misha! He's on his way back, no doubt about it.

I'm happy to see him back in the mix.

Don't you know....in MTF all threads must come down to saying that Rafa sux and his career is finished. :p Mix that in with folks saying the same about Ivan and it goes on for 5 pages without a mention of the victor of the match today.

I really would love for Misha to have a strong year. He has such a nice game when it is on. Plus- I find him rather adorable. :)

adee-gee
02-25-2007, 02:37 PM
What does he do? He lost 2 finals, so what? at least he played 3 finals this year. Rafatard :wavey:
Jez isn't a Rafatard, he just knows a good player when he sees one and a phoney when he sees one :)

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:37 PM
In the only big tournament of the year, he lost to MARDY FISH in the FIRST ROUND :haha:.

No matter what he does, he can't make up for that.

:wavey:

Fish played QF there later. And there are still 3 big tournaments this year, so i'm sure he can make up.

TMJordan
02-25-2007, 02:37 PM
This was a very easy call, Ivan had nothing in the tank and Misha finally took advantage of a chance for a win against him and did not choke.

Nice win Misha and nice week Ivan :hatoff:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:37 PM
Then why do you act like one?

How do I act like one? I'm completely neutral...I hardly ever post about him :lol:

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:38 PM
de Bakker - who is he?
Ollie - not a threat indoors to a big server
Mayer - who?
Davydenko - good win, but kind of expected

Still, you can't compare an optional to a Slam...and you forget Ljubo's joke RG draw last year where he beat no-one in top 60 :lol:

:wavey:

de Bakker- still unknown, but probably upcoming star
Mayer- current top50
:rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:38 PM
ignore Jez, he is a huge Ljubo fan when Ivan wins :lol: he is the General of the Ljubo Bandwagon :yeah:

That I am :lol: :yeah:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:39 PM
de Bakker - who is he?
Ollie - not a threat indoors to a big server
Mayer - who?
Davydenko - good win, but kind of expected

Still, you can't compare an optional to a Slam...and you forget Ljubo's joke RG draw last year where he beat no-one in top 60 :lol:

:wavey:

no one in the top 60 because most were clay players, Monaco, Hidalgo

Apemant
02-25-2007, 02:39 PM
sure Rafa made a QF of SLAM , and Ljubo is making finals of small tournaments
At all comparing Ljubo to Rafa is stupid :rolleyes:

For one I agree with you, comparing Nadal to Ljubo is kinda silly. The boy already had 2 GS before he turned 20, Ljubo never came close to winning one.

But, on the other hand, as much as comparing Ljubo and Nadal is silly, what is REALLY silly is when a general noone like you ridicule Ljubo's achievements. Try to develop some modesty or at least some humour or a slight touch of self-irony. That's a friendly advice here.

ezekiel
02-25-2007, 02:39 PM
A very dominating performance from Youzhny

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:39 PM
And there are still 3 big tournaments this year, so i'm sure he can make up.

No no no no no :lol:

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:39 PM
its not like im comparing QF to QF

Kendrick, Robert (USA)
Kohlschreiber, Philipp (GER)
Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI)
Murray, Andy (GBR)

de Bakker
O. Rochus
Mayer
Davydenko

:haha:

Slams are the epitome of competitive tennis - they are played over 5 sets and most players will push themselves to the limit to try and win. One cannot say the same for optionals.

And if you're looking for a weak draw, which noteworthy players did Ivan beat at RG last year?

:wavey:

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:40 PM
Jez isn't a Rafatard, he just knows a good player when he sees one and a phoney when he sees one :)

:rolleyes:
Watch out Rafa, coz GUCCIONE IS COMING!!! Bwahahahaha

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:41 PM
no one in the top 60 because most were clay players, Monaco, Hidalgo

...who lack experience at beating the best players in the world. Sure, credit to Ivan for winning from 2 sets down (to Monaco?) but it doesn't detract from the joke draw he got ;)

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:41 PM
or the surface he easily beat Murray in Doha :retard:

Doha is not at the end of the season.

:haha:

moron :retard:

adee-gee
02-25-2007, 02:42 PM
no one in the top 60 because most were clay players, Monaco, Hidalgo
Nadal is apparently a clay player and has made it to #2 in the world :scratch:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:42 PM
:rolleyes:
Watch out Rafa, coz GUCCIONE IS COMING!!! Bwahahahaha

I doubt Guccione will make it any higher than Karlovic...so Nadal won't have to worry often ;) Besides, did he actually LOSE that match? No...he conceded. ;)

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:42 PM
Fish played QF there later. And there are still 3 big tournaments this year, so i'm sure he can make up.

Fish is a shithouse player :wavey:, no excuse for losing to him.

And I highly doubt he will do that.

:)

scoobs
02-25-2007, 02:42 PM
Oh for pity's sake, it's like a goddamn kindergarten in here.

Grinder
02-25-2007, 02:43 PM
:haha:

Slams are the epitome of competitive tennis - they are played over 5 sets and most players will push themselves to the limit to try and win. One cannot say the same for optionals.

And if you're looking for a weak draw, which noteworthy players did Ivan beat at RG last year?

:wavey:

The GREAT JUAN MONACO apparently. :lol:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:43 PM
Oh for pity's sake, it's like a goddamn kindergarten in here.

Have you never stepped into a Croatard mud slinging match before? Grab a helmet and get stuck in! :yeah:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:44 PM
Doha is not at the end of the season.

:haha:

moron :retard:

are you kidding me, go back and read the whole thing again and think this time :wavey:

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:44 PM
:rolleyes:
Watch out Rafa, coz GUCCIONE IS COMING!!! Bwahahahaha

Watch out Ljubo, the top 20 is leaving you behind!!!

:wavey:

scoobs
02-25-2007, 02:44 PM
Have you never stepped into a Croatard mud slinging match before? Grab a helmet and get stuck in! :yeah:
I'm a Federer fan - we normally look down on all this sort of thing from a great height :D

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:45 PM
I doubt Guccione will make it any higher than Karlovic...so Nadal won't have to worry often ;) Besides, did he actually LOSE that match? No...he conceded. ;)

No, he didn't actually lose that match. He chickened out :rolleyes: That's even worse. And he wasn't injured. Everybody knows that :wavey:

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:46 PM
are you kidding me, go back and read the whole thing again and think this time :wavey:

sure thing Jerry

:o

Clara Bow
02-25-2007, 02:46 PM
Oh for pity's sake, it's like a goddamn kindergarten in here.


Yes. And it's lovely how Youzhny, who has a ton of talent but has not really been able to realize it- was able to finally captialize on a strong week with a win but is basically ignored in this thread because of all of the squabbling.

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:46 PM
Ivan wont defend the RG SF, but he can make it to QF, clay is not a bad surface for his, he can return on it and has good serve so other players will have less chances. he had 67 bps in 6 matches last year. :yeah:

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:47 PM
Watch out Ljubo, the top 20 is leaving you behind!!!

:wavey:

Probably after RG, but he can and will come back at the end of the year.

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:47 PM
No, he didn't actually lose that match. He chickened out :rolleyes: That's even worse. And he wasn't injured. Everybody knows that :wavey:

Well Ivan sure as hell wasn't injured against Fish :lol:.

Nor against Lalo :haha:

scoobs
02-25-2007, 02:47 PM
Yes. And it's lovely how Youzhny, who has a ton of talent but has not really been able to realize it- was able to finally captialize on a strong week with a win but is basically ignored in this thread because of all of the squabbling.
Absolutely - let's talk about Misha.

He's seemed like a different player since he went on that run to the semis at the US Open.

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:47 PM
Watch out Ljubo, the top 20 is leaving you behind!!!

:wavey:

its pretty much impossible for Ivan to follow out of the top 20. he would need to pull out of IW, Miami, and RG for that to happen :)

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:47 PM
No, he didn't actually lose that match. He chickened out :rolleyes: That's even worse. And he wasn't injured. Everybody knows that :wavey:

Sure :lol:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:48 PM
Well Ivan sure as hell wasn't injured against Fish :lol:.

Nor against Lalo :haha:

Lalo :haha: :haha:

Ivan was just injured in the thinking department ;)

sdtoot
02-25-2007, 02:49 PM
Congrats Youzhny, best player all week!!

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:49 PM
its pretty much impossible for Ivan to follow out of the top 20. he would need to pull out of IW, Miami, and RG for that to happen :)

He'll remain in the top 20...don't want him dropping lower than yet :yeah:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 02:49 PM
Have you never stepped into a Croatard mud slinging match before? Grab a helmet and get stuck in! :yeah:

They would get silent soon enough if those other trolls, in no way related to Crotards, wouldn't add more fuel to the fire.

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:49 PM
Ivan wont defend the RG SF, but he can make it to QF, clay is not a bad surface for his, he can return on it and has good serve so other players will have less chances. he had 67 bps in 6 matches last year. :yeah:

:lol:

ivan is a real claycourt fiend

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:50 PM
Well Ivan sure as hell wasn't injured against Fish :lol:.

Nor against Lalo :haha:

No, he wasn't injured. He played, and lost those matches. And least he didn't run out of the court.

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:50 PM
Probably after RG, but he can and will come back at the end of the year.

Unlikely.

:wavey:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 02:50 PM
No, he wasn't injured. He played, and lost those matches. And least he didn't run out of the court.

He really should have done :lol: :o

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 02:50 PM
Exactly. Let's assume noone outside of Croatia ever heard him, which is actually nonsensical, but for the sake of argument...

Now according to Wikipedia, Croatia has about 4.5 million inhabitants. So if only 25% Croats heard of Ljubo (which is totally impossible given his DC win which was probably in all the newspapers around the country), it's already more than a million.

Look, don't try to be smart with me. You are only sounding more stupid with each post. Outside of your family and your highschool class, who knows that you even exist? This is not to say that I'm much different than that, but I don't go out and ridicule the popularity of people who are 10000 times more known than me, like you do. And you do it in fact rather seriously and with no style whatsoever, unlike tangy who is at least funny at times.

Yeah but many people treats him as qualifier or court staff during tournaments. And I can assure you that more poeple than my family and highschool class know me and it is pointless, if you haven't seen that my question "who is Ljubicic" was an irony that's not my problem.

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:52 PM
its pretty much impossible for Ivan to follow out of the top 20. he would need to pull out of IW, Miami, and RG for that to happen :)

don't worry, he will sooner or later

:)

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:53 PM
:lol:

ivan is a real claycourt fiend

13-5 last year :retard: but dont let the facts stop you from looking like an idiot :yeah:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 02:53 PM
Absolutely - let's talk about Misha.

He's seemed like a different player since he went on that run to the semis at the US Open.

Yeah, he looks rather formidable recently. Even those matches in Doha, Zagreb and Marseille which he lost, he looked a better player. Now it finally pays back. Glad for him despite being a little sad for Ljubo.

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 02:53 PM
Yeah but many people treats him as qualifier or court staff during tournaments. And I can assure you that more poeple than my family and highschool class know me and it is pointless, if you haven't seen that my question "who is Ljubicic" was an irony that's not my problem.

yes im sure many people treat him like a " court staff ".

Sofonda Cox
02-25-2007, 02:53 PM
13-5 last year :retard: but dont let the facts stop you from looking like an idiot :yeah:

looking like an idiot is what that thing does best:wavey:

Byrd
02-25-2007, 02:54 PM
Youzhny is a good player, at the AO he didn't have much belief against Fed, but when the 3rd set came he probably just thought to himself I have nothing to lose so I might as well just go for it, and played some great rallies, yet lost in a tie-break, only just.I Look forward to how he plays next week in dubai.

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 02:54 PM
don't worry, he will sooner or later

:)

im not worried about it, he will finish the year in the top 10, but you seem to be worked up about it

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 02:55 PM
I agree. Ivan will play Masters at the end of the year. :wavey:

gebl
02-25-2007, 02:56 PM
I wonder whether Kolya will tell Misha that Misha owes him a favour, after Kolya softened Ljubo up yesterday

gusman890
02-25-2007, 02:57 PM
good win youzhny :)

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 02:58 PM
13-5 last year :retard: but dont let the facts stop you from looking like an idiot :yeah:

:lol:

It's a pity he was 1-4 against top 30 players on clay, in competitive matches.

(No, the world team cup is not competitive)

:wavey:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 03:00 PM
:lol:

It's a pity he was 1-4 against top 30 players on clay, in competitive matches.

(No, the world team cup is not competitive)

:wavey:

he's been to a QF or better at all clay AMS and RG, beating Coria in his prime, Gaudio and other clay courters, but once again dont let the facts stop you from looking like an idiot :wavey:

Clara Bow
02-25-2007, 03:00 PM
Yeah, he looks rather formidable recently. Even those matches in Doha, Zagreb and Marseille which he lost, he looked a better player. Now it finally pays back. Glad for him despite being a little sad for Ljubo.

The key for him this year is to stay injury free. And I think it was very important for him to keep his mind today and not choke against someone that he had such a bad losing record - even if Ivan was not playing his best.

Misha is coming into middle age in tennis years- do you think that he could be a bigger force on the tour or will he always be someone who can give some folks trouble, but can't carry it all the way through.

Apemant
02-25-2007, 03:01 PM
Yeah but many people treats him as qualifier or court staff during tournaments. And I can assure you that more poeple than my family and highschool class know me and it is pointless, if you haven't seen that my question "who is Ljubicic" was an irony that's not my problem.

All right, all right. Of course I undrestood it was just a joke. But look, you just don't have any style in those jokes, so you better drop it. Or browse tangy's or jerry's posts to get a clue.

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 03:01 PM
For one I agree with you, comparing Nadal to Ljubo is kinda silly. The boy already had 2 GS before he turned 20, Ljubo never came close to winning one.

But, on the other hand, as much as comparing Ljubo and Nadal is silly, what is REALLY silly is when a general noone like you ridicule Ljubo's achievements. Try to develop some modesty or at least some humour or a slight touch of self-irony. That's a friendly advice here.

I have gave credit to Ljubicic many times when he played good times( for example after Doha ) so I am not like nonsense basher bashing him everytime - only when he loses. And I can ridicule Ljubo's achievements because he has no achievements there were countless players like him winning few MM tournaments, being clowns in GS never winning anything big, on the other hand some Ljubo lovers ridicule Nadal (for example IvanLjubicic) or Roddick, but both of them are in the different class in terms of achievements and they are still GS contenders. Some posters are writing about Ljubo as he is a real great player, with titles with ability to win big matches, tournaments etc and it is not true he is not even close to Davydenko. And I don't have to be famous to critize someone if so maybe we should close MTF?? Beacuse I don't know how many so famous people post here but I am sure not much, and still Roddick, Nadal are bashed all the time by other General noones which is even more "silly" than bashing Ljubo achievements because Andy and Rafa achievements are far greater than Ljubo.

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 03:01 PM
im not worried about it, he will finish the year in the top 10, but you seem to be worked up about it

:lol:

nice dream you have there jerry

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 03:03 PM
he's been to a QF or better at all clay AMS and RG, beating Coria in his prime, Gaudio and other clay courters, but once again dont let the facts stop you from looking like an idiot :wavey:

:lol:

Yer you're right, Gaudio and Coria never lose to ridiculously poor opponents.

:haha:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 03:06 PM
:lol:

Yer you're right, Gaudio and Coria never lose to ridiculously poor opponents.

:haha:

they almost never did on clay in 2004 and 2005 when they were winning.
of course they lose on hardcourts.

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 03:06 PM
Loremaster: I am just curious, are you actually a fan of any particular player or do you just come here to bash ljubo? Im going to have to say the former because you are usually nowhere to be found then the second ljubo loses you pop up with your garbage posts.

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 03:09 PM
Loremaster: I am just curious, are you actually a fan of any particular player or do you just come here to bash ljubo? Im going to have to say the former because you are usually nowhere to be found then the second ljubo loses you pop up with your garbage posts.

yeah I am a fan and supporter of : Andy Roddick, James Blake, Fernando Gonzalez, Rafael Nadal, Richard Gasquet, Marcos Baghdatis, Mardy Fish, J.C Ferrero, Del Potro

I just don't like Ljubo that's all what is wrong with that ??

its.like.that
02-25-2007, 03:11 PM
they almost never did on clay in 2004 and 2005 when they were winning.
of course they lose on hardcourts.

:lol:

In 2004, Gaudio lost to both Labadze and Mayer on clay.

So there goes that theory.

:wavey:

Corey Feldman
02-25-2007, 03:14 PM
Congrats Mikey Youzhny, keep the beard :yeah:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 03:15 PM
:lol:

In 2004, Gaudio lost to both Labadze and Mayer on clay.

So there goes that theory.

:wavey:

almost never is a great one... :retard:
dont mention the GS final they played.

pretty safe to say i made you look like a fool today

Me: 3049 You: 0

:kiss:

yeahright
02-25-2007, 03:16 PM
:bigclap: Misha!!!

Apemant
02-25-2007, 03:19 PM
I have gave credit to Ljubicic many times when he played good times( for example after Doha ) so I am not like nonsense basher bashing him everytime - only when he loses. And I can ridicule Ljubo's achievements because he has no achievements there were countless players like him winning few MM tournaments, being clowns in GS never winning anything big, on the other hand some Ljubo lovers ridicule Nadal (for example IvanLjubicic) or Roddick, but both of them are in the different class in terms of achievements and they are still GS contenders. Some posters are writing about Ljubo as he is a real great player, with titles with ability to win big matches, tournaments etc and it is not true he is not even close to Davydenko. And I don't have to be famous to critize someone if so maybe we should close MTF?? Beacuse I don't know how many so famous people post here but I am sure not much, and still Roddick, Nadal are bashed all the time by other General noones which is even more "silly" than bashing Ljubo achievements because Andy and Rafa achievements are far greater than Ljubo.

Look, I agree that Ljubo is no exception to the ridicule, many people do the same to Roddick and Nadal, and some even to Federer (:eek: so silly). But hey, I can't pretend that I'm a Roddick fan or a Nadal fan, so I have no place defending them from such comments. It would be nothing but hypocrisy from my side. Unlucky for you, I happen to be a Ljubo fan, and I don't mind if people say stuff like 'omg, what a pathetic EFFORT', or 'boy, did his FH suck in THIS MATCH', or 'wow, what a thrashing Misha gave to Ljubo TODAY', etc. See where I'm heading? You are one of few people who rarely focus on a particular PERFORMANCE, but rather constantly give your totally biased and very negative opinion of Ljubo's game IN GENERAL. I say, drop it. Focus on here and now, and don't ridicule his entire career. Or, keep doing what you are doing and deal with my answers. It's your choice, I'm fine both ways.

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 03:22 PM
yeah I am a fan and supporter of : Andy Roddick, James Blake, Fernando Gonzalez, Rafael Nadal, Richard Gasquet, Marcos Baghdatis, Mardy Fish, J.C Ferrero, Del Potro

I just don't like Ljubo that's all what is wrong with that ??

There is nothing wrong with not liking ljubo but you usually are never supporting those players and most of your posts come in Ljubicic threads. Safe to say you dislike ljubo more than you like the players you mentioned.

Clara Bow
02-25-2007, 03:23 PM
Congrats Mikey Youzhny, keep the beard :yeah:

I do like the beard as well. I have always thought that he looks like a Soviet soldier from the 1940s or so and the beard just adds to that.

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 03:25 PM
Look, I agree that Ljubo is no exception to the ridicule, many people do the same to Roddick and Nadal, and some even to Federer (:eek: so silly). But hey, I can't pretend that I'm a Roddick fan or a Nadal fan, so I have no place defending them from such comments. It would be nothing but hypocrisy from my side. Unlucky for you, I happen to be a Ljubo fan, and I don't mind if people say stuff like 'omg, what a pathetic EFFORT', or 'boy, did his FH suck in THIS MATCH', or 'wow, what a thrashing Misha gave to Ljubo TODAY', etc. See where I'm heading? You are one of few people who rarely focus on a particular PERFORMANCE, but rather constantly give your totally biased and very negative opinion of Ljubo's game IN GENERAL. I say, drop it. Focus on here and now, and don't ridicule his entire career. Or, keep doing what you are doing and deal with my answers. It's your choice, I'm fine both ways.

OK I get you point, not that I am totally agree with it but it is your opinion. I am just happy that he is proving that he is worth being in Top10.

RonE
02-25-2007, 03:25 PM
Youzhny! :D

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 03:26 PM
There is nothing wrong with not liking ljubo but you usually are never supporting those players and most of your posts come in Ljubicic threads. Safe to say you dislike ljubo more than you like the players you mentioned.

no true but that's your opionion and I don't want to argue with it.
And I am supporting these players ;)

Apemant
02-25-2007, 03:28 PM
The key for him this year is to stay injury free. And I think it was very important for him to keep his mind today and not choke against someone that he had such a bad losing record - even if Ivan was not playing his best.

Misha is coming into middle age in tennis years- do you think that he could be a bigger force on the tour or will he always be someone who can give some folks trouble, but can't carry it all the way through.

I've watched like 7-8 of his matches in the past 3 weeks and he looks simply great. Effortless play, Federesque I'd say. Can't point to any real weakness in his game (other than choking, but he seems to be better lately, beating Nole twice in a row in tight matches and now whipping Ljubo). Today for example he showed he had no problems returning those bombs of Ljubo. Tried to read his serve and often succeeding. It's no small thing to break Ljubo 3 times in 2 sets, even if he doesn't play very good; his serve is usually still there even when he can't hit a forehand to save his life. So kudos to Misha for pulling this off. :worship:

scoobs
02-25-2007, 03:30 PM
I've watched like 7-8 of his matches in the past 3 weeks and he looks simply great. Effortless play, Federesque I'd say. Can't point to any real weakness in his game (other than choking, but he seems to be better lately, beating Nole twice in a row in tight matches and now whipping Ljubo). Today for example he showed he had no problems returning those bombs of Ljubo. Tried to read his serve and often succeeding. It's no small thing to break Ljubo 3 times in 2 sets, even if he doesn't play very good; his serve is usually still there even when he can't hit a forehand to save his life. So kudos to Misha for pulling this off. :worship:
I thought Misha's match against Federer was one of the highlights of the tournament in Australia - especially that third set. I noticed Federer was quick to direct a lot of credit to Youzhny when the press wanted to discuss the threat he thought Djokovic posed.

Corey Feldman
02-25-2007, 03:33 PM
I do like the beard as well. I have always thought that he looks like a Soviet soldier from the 1940s or so and the beard just adds to that.Just like his dad..

did he do his famous salute celebration today after the big win ?

Apemant
02-25-2007, 03:34 PM
yeah I am a fan and supporter of : Andy Roddick, James Blake, Fernando Gonzalez, Rafael Nadal, Richard Gasquet, Marcos Baghdatis, Mardy Fish, J.C Ferrero, Del Potro

I just don't like Ljubo that's all what is wrong with that ??

I also like Gonzo, Blake, Baggy and JMDP (not that I have anything against the rest of them, but I prefer these).

You know, if you don't like someone it's always best to just ignore them. Not appear in each and every thread after they lose and gloat your ass off. It's just not nice. Do it once or twice and that's it. Throw in a sarcastic comment from time to time and then give it a rest. The world doesn't revolve around whether Ljubo is in top 10 or not.

Scotso
02-25-2007, 03:35 PM
Congrats Misha :D

Leo
02-25-2007, 03:37 PM
Misha!!! :bounce: A long overdue 3rd title. And what a sweet way to do it, saving mps in the semis and overcoming Ljubicic in the final after all their close matches and all his losses!

I hope you have a good run in Dubai as well and then translate that kind of play to IW and Miami, for once. ;)

Hoorah. :D :bounce:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 03:37 PM
I thought Misha's match against Federer was one of the highlights of the tournament in Australia - especially that third set. I noticed Federer was quick to direct a lot of credit to Youzhny when the press wanted to discuss the threat he thought Djokovic posed.

Federer of course recognizes talent, him being greatly talented as well. Nole isn't too shabby either but consistency and persistance are his greatest assets.

To me, the highlights of AO were easily Gonzo's matches till the final. Fed's beatdown of Roddick was a little bit too cruel for my taste I must admit... and I didn't see Fed-Misha match, I was at work :mad:

Jaap
02-25-2007, 03:38 PM
Ljubo is a mug of a player so this result comes as no suprise.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 03:39 PM
I agree. Ivan will play Masters at the end of the year. :wavey:

:haha:

Denise
02-25-2007, 03:39 PM
Youz :banana:

almouchie
02-25-2007, 03:39 PM
how many titles does Youzhny have
now

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 03:40 PM
Loremaster: I am just curious, are you actually a fan of any particular player or do you just come here to bash ljubo? Im going to have to say the former because you are usually nowhere to be found then the second ljubo loses you pop up with your garbage posts.

I think you mean the latter ;)

Sunset of Age
02-25-2007, 03:41 PM
Great, great playing by Misha! He should indeed keep the beard. :worship:

Ivan??? :confused: :eek: :confused: :eek:

Leo
02-25-2007, 03:42 PM
Does anyone have pictures of Misha with the trophy? Gfetty images barely has anything from Rotterdam, shamefully.

alelysafina
02-25-2007, 03:42 PM
Misha!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

Leo
02-25-2007, 03:42 PM
how many titles does Youzhny have
now

3 titles for 5 finals. First title since St. Petersburg 2004!

Apemant
02-25-2007, 03:43 PM
OK I get you point, not that I am totally agree with it but it is your opinion. I am just happy that he is proving that he is worth being in Top10.

You actually wanted to say that he ISN'T worth being in top 10?

Well, thats an opinion. I happen to disagree. Some people might as well say they don't think Sampras really deserved to win 14 slams mainly with his unbelievably solid service game and not much above that. What is the relevance of those opinions? Ljubo was #3 at some point, he got there by winning matches, so he did deserve it. Whether you like that fact or not doesn't matter one bit. I don't like the fact that Sampras was able to win 14 slams, but I wouldn't dare say that he didn't 'deserve' it.

And I'm not comparing Ljubo to Sampras here, that'd be really silly. I'm comparing my attitude to yours.

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 03:43 PM
Does anyone have pictures of Misha with the trophy? Gfetty images barely has anything from Rotterdam, shamefully.


http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20070225/capt.sge.alj75.250207153245.photo00.photo.default-512x369.jpg

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 03:45 PM
I think you mean the latter ;)

whatever :devil:

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 03:47 PM
Loremaster, you are getting pwned by Apemant. I suggest staying away from threads where apemant is posting in.

alelysafina
02-25-2007, 03:50 PM
Does anyone have pictures of Misha with the trophy? Gfetty images barely has anything from Rotterdam, shamefully.

Tons here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/235/photos

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3160/captsgealj7525020715324xm9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

*Viva Chile*
02-25-2007, 03:53 PM
Misha!!!!! :woohoo:

NObody can beat Youzhny 7 times in a row!!! :lol:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 03:56 PM
Just like his dad..

did he do his famous salute celebration today after the big win ?

BTW what does that salute thing refer to? Who is it directed at? I'm really curious.

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 03:56 PM
You actually wanted to say that he ISN'T worth being in top 10?

Well, thats an opinion. I happen to disagree. Some people might as well say they don't think Sampras really deserved to win 14 slams mainly with his unbelievably solid service game and not much above that. What is the relevance of those opinions? Ljubo was #3 at some point, he got there by winning matches, so he did deserve it. Whether you like that fact or not doesn't matter one bit. I don't like the fact that Sampras was able to win 14 slams, but I wouldn't dare say that he didn't 'deserve' it.

And I'm not comparing Ljubo to Sampras here, that'd be really silly. I'm comparing my attitude to yours.

OK maybe deserved is bad world, because he deserved to be in Top10 he played good in some tourneys but he is not Top10 player, his game his GS results are worse than players other players in Top20.

Corey Feldman
02-25-2007, 04:00 PM
BTW what does that salute thing refer to? Who is it directed at? I'm really curious.I believe its for his late father.... who was a soldier.

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 04:00 PM
OK maybe deserved is bad world, because he deserved to be in Top10 he played good in some tourneys but he is not Top10 player, his game his GS results are worse than players other players in Top20.

what about Blake?

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 04:08 PM
what about Blake?

Did I say that Blake deserved to be in Top10 ?? Where ??

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 04:09 PM
Did I say that Blake deserved to be in Top10 ?? Where ??

I dont know about that but i do know you have said Blake is a big stage player. That still might be the funniest thing i have read on MTF to date.

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 04:10 PM
Did I say that Blake deserved to be in Top10 ?? Where ??

did i say that you did? since you seem to be bashing Ivan for poor GS results, just wanted to see what to thought about a player with even worse GS results

Apemant
02-25-2007, 04:11 PM
OK maybe deserved is bad world, because he deserved to be in Top10 he played good in some tourneys but he is not Top10 player, his game his GS results are worse than players other players in Top20.

I'm not delusional about Ljubo. His GS record is indeed poor. What to say, some people deliver at big stage, some don't. I like him anyway. After all, I've never even been to big stage myself let alone produced anything there; and I guess noone here did either. I don't fool myself into thinking that I can even imagine what it feels like.

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 04:12 PM
I dont know about that but i do know you have said Blake is a big stage player. That still might be the funniest thing i have read on MTF to date.

I didn't wrote that he is big stage player that he is better big stage player than Ljubo so do not manipulate with facts because he has made TMC final which was pretty big achievement

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 04:13 PM
what about Blake?

Blake's best GS result came in a run when he took out a top 10 player, no? Ljubo's...no-one in top 60. Add to that...Blake has more career titles than Ljubo, and he has appeared in a Masters Cup final. He is no worse than Ljubo

:wavey:

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 04:14 PM
I didn't wrote that he is big stage player that he is better big stage player than Ljubo so do not manipulate with facts because he has made TMC final which was pretty big achievement


Dont kid yourself. You remember very well what you wrote then you realized how big of a moron you were looking like so you changed it to blake being a better big stage player than ljubo.

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 04:15 PM
Blake's best GS result came in a run when he took out a top 10 player, no? Ljubo's...no-one in top 60. Add to that...Blake has more career titles than Ljubo, and he has appeared in a Masters Cup final. He is no worse than Ljubo

:wavey:


Davis Cup champ > TMC finalist

:wavey:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 04:17 PM
Come on, why all this? Both Blake and Ljubo are great players, although completely different styles. So what if Blake is a choker and Ljubo fails to deliver at big stage? I like them both nonetheless.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 04:18 PM
Davis Cup champ > TMC finalist

:wavey:

That's a team event, even if Ljubo did most of the work. :ras: But a great achievement none-the-less :worship:

I'm talking about individual achievement :yeah:

:wavey:

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 04:20 PM
Come on, why all this? Both Blake and Ljubo are great players, although completely different styles. So what if Blake is a choker and Ljubo fails to deliver at big stage? I like them both nonetheless.

What do you mean completely different styles? Are you referring to their games? In my opinion their games are nearly identical with blake having the better forehand and ljubo the better serve. Both try to end points as quickly as possible.

ChinoRios4Ever
02-25-2007, 04:20 PM
congrats misha :yeah:

ljubo sucks???? are you kidding me??? 3 finals in 2 months and he sucks???? :spit:

Clara Bow
02-25-2007, 04:22 PM
how many titles does Youzhny have
now

This is only his third, I believe. Quite shocking for someone with his talent.

I am trying not to enter the Ljubicic fray- but I think that he is a good player who underachieves during the Grand Slams.

Apemant
02-25-2007, 04:25 PM
What do you mean completely different styles? Are you referring to their games? In my opinion their games are nearly identical with blake having the better forehand and ljubo the better serve. Both try to end points as quickly as possible.

Blake is a great mover and runner, Ljubo is not. Blake hits hard and flat off both wings, Ljubo prefers well placed slices and loopy topspins. Blake has great FH, Ljubo a mediocre one, but a great BH (lately it's been off though). Ljubo is a serve machine, Blake is at most a solid server; yet Blake is a better returner. All in all, I don't see much similarity between them; even though particular similarities do exist. After all, the both hold their racquets with the right hand, you might consider that a similarity as well. :devil:

Johnny Groove
02-25-2007, 04:27 PM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

BORING.

Come on Jerry and IL and other Croatards. You didnt have your best today :awww: And you are beating up on 2nd rate tard competition (no offense, Loremaster)

jazar
02-25-2007, 04:27 PM
go misha. hope he's not too tired for dubai. he could do very well there

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 04:30 PM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

BORING.

Come on Jerry and IL and other Croatards. You didnt have your best today :awww: And you are beating up on 2nd rate tard competition (no offense, Loremaster)

:) You will get your chance most likely tuesday. Dont dissapoint :devil:

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 04:30 PM
Loremaster, you are getting pwned by Apemant. I suggest staying away from threads where apemant is posting in.

IvanLjubicic you arte getting pwned by Apemant (especially about Blake similiar style to Ljubo :haha: :haha:)

*Ljubica*
02-25-2007, 04:32 PM
Congratulations to Misha for winning this title, and to Ivan for reaching the final.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 04:32 PM
:) You will get your chance most likely tuesday. Dont dissapoint :devil:

:haha:

Johnny Groove
02-25-2007, 04:32 PM
:) You will get your chance most likely tuesday. Dont dissapoint :devil:

im thinking sunday :devil:

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 04:34 PM
im thinking sunday :devil:

Highly unlikely. Rafa has another month left until he starts playing on sundays.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 04:36 PM
Highly unlikely. Rafa has another month left until he starts playing on sundays.

...and Ivan will be waiting a looooooooooong time now before he plays a Sunday :haha:

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 04:37 PM
...and Ivan will be waiting a looooooooooong time now before he plays a Sunday :haha:

Atleast he will get another chance to play on a sunday unlike Timbo :p

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 04:38 PM
...and Ivan will be waiting a looooooooooong time now before he plays a Sunday :haha:

not so long he will play his first and only match at RG on Sunday :angel:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 04:39 PM
Atleast he will get another chance to play on a sunday unlike Timbo :p

We'll see :devil:

Ivan shouldn't make another final until post-Wimbledon...Tim might get a shot on grass before then ;)

Johnny Groove
02-25-2007, 04:39 PM
Highly unlikely. Rafa has another month left until he starts playing on sundays.

no, he has 6 days before he plays on a sunday.

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 04:41 PM
We'll see :devil:

Ivan shouldn't make another final until post-Wimbledon...Tim might get a shot on grass before then ;)

So Tim is playing Surbiton this year? Good for him, hopefully he can get some confidence beating up on journeymen.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 04:42 PM
no, he has 6 days before he plays on a sunday.

Even I'm not convinced it will be this week, and I'm neutral ;)

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 04:42 PM
So Tim is playing Surbiton this year? Good for him, hopefully he can get some confidence beating up on journeymen.

Ljubo couldn't even win the Surbiton title, so don't talk about beating up journymen :lol:

Johnny Groove
02-25-2007, 04:44 PM
Even I'm not convinced it will be this week, and I'm neutral ;)

Baggy, Andreev, Berdych/Misha, someone, Federer.


a bit of a tough draw, but i think if he can take out Brdych, it will do loads for his confidence against Rogi and into IW/Miami

Johnny Groove
02-25-2007, 04:44 PM
o guys, i forgot. Dubai is a saturday final :haha:

gambit84
02-25-2007, 04:47 PM
Wonderful Mikhail....what a great player!
What's his next week ranking after this great winner? thanks

Apemant
02-25-2007, 04:53 PM
We'll see :devil:

Ivan shouldn't make another final until post-Wimbledon...Tim might get a shot on grass before then ;)

Hmm I fear you may be right.

So we agree on this but the difference is that you seem to like it, while I can't say that. I would very much prefer to see the old Ljubo playing good again. I just love it when he plays his best; not getting distracted by fist pumping, hair floating around :devil: , facial expressions, grunts and whatnot :rolleyes: ... just pure technical aggression and pinpoint precise shots.

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 04:55 PM
I am very curious how Ljubo will be playing in IW/Miami :devil: QF and F points to defend :devil:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 05:09 PM
I am very curious how Ljubo will be playing in IW/Miami :devil: QF and F points to defend :devil:

Hmm, nothing to take out of Misha, but if Ljubo plays like today, he's bound to lose some big points at the next 2 tournaments. 475 points on the stake.

On the other hand, not everyone can handle his serve with ease. He can sometimes come through even playing rather crappy.

Shrinking Violet
02-25-2007, 05:16 PM
Well done, Misha. :yeah: I didn't expect him to win so easilly. I didn't see the match, but the scoreline makes it look like it was really easy - did Ivan just show up and didn't play well or did Youhzny just play really well?

2moretogo
02-25-2007, 05:34 PM
Misha! :worship:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 05:52 PM
Well done, Misha. :yeah: I didn't expect him to win so easilly. I didn't see the match, but the scoreline makes it look like it was really easy - did Ivan just show up and didn't play well or did Youhzny just play really well?

Both. Misha played really good and it would be hard for Ljubo even if he himself played good. Since he didn't, hence the scoreline.

Bremen
02-25-2007, 06:03 PM
Congrats! Excellent win!!! This week has been great for me as a tennis fan. Hopefully Haas wins as well and it couldn't be more perfect.

Black Adam
02-25-2007, 06:30 PM
This certainly is Ivan's last year in top 20. Bye Bye:wavey: It was about high time you left the top stage :devil: Come next year Ivan will totally last century's NEWS :lol:
Pretty pathetic returning especially against a guy like Youzhny who does have a great serve (just ana average serve)

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 06:33 PM
This certainly is Ivan's last year in top 20. Bye Bye:wavey: It was about high time you left the top stage :devil: Come next year Ivan will totally last century's NEWS :lol:
Pretty pathetic returning especially against a guy like Youzhny who does have a great serve (just ana average serve)

he does.
Youzhny was fav. to win this match based on Ivan playing a late night match last night for 3 hours and playing early today.

and i will bet you anything that Ivan will finish this year in top 10 and play in the TMC.

Mistaflava
02-25-2007, 06:45 PM
:haha:


what a chump...

tennismaster882001
02-25-2007, 06:45 PM
:lol:
So many trolls in this thread posting bullshit!
It's enough to read two pages and you get sick of it!:spit:

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 06:48 PM
:haha:

Remember what you were laughing at ;)

Apemant
02-25-2007, 06:55 PM
Pretty pathetic returning especially against a guy like Youzhny who does have a great serve (just ana average serve)

What is pathetic is when someone comments on a match which they pretty obviously haven't seen.

Youzhny served great in this match, he was hitting lines all the time. Any time Ljubo came close to a BP he would just bang 3 aces/unreturnables in a row. It's true Ljubo doesn't return well, but the stuff Misha pulled off today would trouble even far greater returners.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 06:56 PM
Remember what you were laughing at ;)

No. Remind me! :devil:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 06:56 PM
dont worry bout TGS...pretty easy to make a fool of :lol:

Jlee
02-25-2007, 06:56 PM
Great win Youzhny :yeah:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 06:57 PM
What is pathetic is when someone comments on a match which they pretty obviously haven't seen.

Youzhny served great in this match, he was hitting lines all the time. Any time Ljubo came close to a BP he would just bang 3 aces/unreturnables in a row. It's true Ljubo doesn't return well, but the stuff Misha pulled off today would trouble even far greater returners.

It's a thread involving Ljubicic and Croatards. All logic goes out of the window :o

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 06:58 PM
No. Remind me! :devil:

I will at the end of the year :nerner: While Henman will be watching Masters from his chair at home, Ljubo will be playing on it :nerner:

Black Adam
02-25-2007, 06:59 PM
he does.
Youzhny was fav. to win this match based on Ivan playing a late night match last night for 3 hours and playing early today.

and i will bet you anything that Ivan will finish this year in top 10 and play in the TMC.

Let's raise the stakes: If Ivan makes TMC and is in top 10 at the end of the year I leave MTF. However in the opposite case, feel free to leave us.( I ahte betting when I am 100% sure of winning :) :p )

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 07:00 PM
Let's raise the stakes: If Ivan makes TMC and is in top 10 at the end of the year I leave MTF. However in the opposite case, feel free to leave us.( I ahte betting when I am 100% sure of winning :) :p )

I don't think he will be at the Masters Cup as a directly qualified player, but it doesn't stop him finishing #9 or #10 ;)

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 07:02 PM
Let's raise the stakes: If Ivan makes TMC and is in top 10 at the end of the year I leave MTF. However in the opposite case, feel free to leave us.( I ahte betting when I am 100% sure of winning :) :p )

DEAL.
i already started a thread, stating that Ivan will be in top 5 after AO 2008, if not i will leave :) so this is taking down the stakes a little :wavey:

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 07:08 PM
DEAL.
i already started a thread, stating that Ivan will be in top 5 after AO 2008, if not i will leave :) so this is taking down the stakes a little :wavey:

You're not allowed to leave :lol:

Black Adam
02-25-2007, 07:11 PM
DEAL.
i already started a thread, stating that Ivan will be in top 5 after AO 2008, if not i will leave :) so this is taking down the stakes a little :wavey:
:lol: Too bad you will be already gone by then :p
2005 &02006 were his years but now he is back to normal Ivan ;)

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 07:12 PM
You're not allowed to leave :lol:

I wont have to, all these jackass' probably have not seen Ivan play this year, he is playing better than ever, he has had 2 matches where he looked like he didnt want to even play, but rest of the season he has been great, he trashed Murray without trouble in Doha, he was never in danger vs.a "top 3" Davydenko, he is serving harder than ever and his FH is better than ever.

lau
02-25-2007, 07:20 PM
yay! Nice scoreline Misha :yeah:

Jaap
02-25-2007, 07:32 PM
Has RaVer given his astute analysis yet?:tape:

delsa
02-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Misha :worship:

guilleakd
02-25-2007, 07:42 PM
in clay ljubicic will lose all the matches he is serving very well...but in the baseline...horrible

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 07:44 PM
in clay ljubicic will lose all the matches he is serving very well...but in the baseline...horrible


just like last year, right?

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 07:45 PM
in clay ljubicic will lose all the matches he is serving very well...but in the baseline...horrible

:retard: 13-5 on clay last year.

Horatio Caine
02-25-2007, 07:46 PM
Has RaVer given his astute analysis yet?:tape:

Yes. It is already in the Hall of Shame, which is resembling a Raver graveyard :haha: :haha: :haha:

Black Adam
02-25-2007, 07:59 PM
:retard: 13-5 on clay last year.
Cakewalk draw la Roland Garros won't happen twice in a row :p

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 08:03 PM
Cakewalk draw la Roland Garros won't happen twice in a row :p

Hidalgo was 11-2 on clay coming in the match vs Ivan.
i would love to see Ivan play same big names on clay, most suck on it, last year he played 2 clay courters and beat them both , just because they only play on clay and their ranking is low, that doesnt mean they suck.

tangerine_dream
02-25-2007, 08:05 PM
Misha, we salute you :worship: Finally, a brilliant win over your nemesis, that bald ugly dude whats-his-name. Congrats! :bigclap: :hatoff:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3760/mishasalutepe5.jpg

goldenlox
02-25-2007, 08:35 PM
That's a good picture

Joyce_23
02-25-2007, 09:45 PM
Yay!! I was so happy to see him win, he played the most awesome tennis all week and deserved to win the tournament. I felt kinda sorry for Ljubo since he was obviously still tired from the match the night before but I highly doubt he would have beaten Misha, in the form that he was in this week, even if Ivan had been on top of his game. The guy played some solid tennis while Ljubo lost more rallies then I could count this week. Anyway, whoohoo! Great win for Misha!

Mistaflava
02-25-2007, 10:38 PM
:haha:


Luuuuujjuuuuubu blows ass

its.like.that
02-26-2007, 12:08 AM
:haha:


Luuuuujjuuuuubu blows ass

For once, I have to agree with Flava.

:dance:

Mistaflava
02-26-2007, 12:32 AM
I think Ljubicic along with all his fans should all just board a rocket and be shipped straight to hell.

Snowwy
02-26-2007, 01:05 AM
Too bad Ivan couldnt win but its his 3rd final of the year?

Leo
02-26-2007, 05:11 AM
From atptennis.com:

Youzhny: “It’s special because it’s been a long time since I won a title. Hopefully more titles will come.”

“I’m playing well, and I like the court. I was a little more fresh than Ivan, because he had a tough match last night. I started well today. It was easy on my serve. If you don’t serve well against Ivan, it’s tough to beat him. If I want to improve, I need to forget about this win tomorrow or Tuesday.”

“The names that have won here are unbelievable – Kafelnikov, Krajicek, Borg, Connors. Every player wants to join these names, and I’m the same. I’m happy to join them. Maybe in 10 years someone will want to join me.”

Awwww!

Alonsofz
02-26-2007, 05:16 AM
Misha :worship:

Ljubo :sad:

Clara Bow
02-26-2007, 05:23 AM
From atptennis.com:

Youzhny: Its special because its been a long time since I won a title. Hopefully more titles will come.

Im playing well, and I like the court. I was a little more fresh than Ivan, because he had a tough match last night. I started well today. It was easy on my serve. If you dont serve well against Ivan, its tough to beat him. If I want to improve, I need to forget about this win tomorrow or Tuesday.

The names that have won here are unbelievable Kafelnikov, Krajicek, Borg, Connors. Every player wants to join these names, and Im the same. Im happy to join them. Maybe in 10 years someone will want to join me.

Awwww!

Misha is freakin' adorable and is a great talent. :hearts:

oz_boz
02-26-2007, 09:57 AM
Misha should have won their last encounter, good he got this one.

Apemant
02-26-2007, 10:13 AM
Im playing well, and I like the court. I was a little more fresh than Ivan, because he had a tough match last night. I started well today. It was easy on my serve. If you dont serve well against Ivan, its tough to beat him. If I want to improve, I need to forget about this win tomorrow or Tuesday.

He's pure class and rather modest actually. It was apparent in the match that he had huge respect for Ljubo even though he played way better all the time. There were only a few situations in which there was a hint of a BP (0-30 two times) and he came up with amazing serves right on lines (actually, one of them was even a little outside of the line but Ljubo didn't go and challenge it, because he challenged just the one before and it was in by a few milimeters :devil: ), exactly like he said above. You could see by his reaction after such serves that he was greatly relieved.

Anyway, he really took some chances and went for lines all the time which is why I find it so funny when someone who didn't see the match says that he has 'no serve'. :cool: By now, anyone should know that placement beats power any day of the year.

CooCooCachoo
02-26-2007, 10:15 AM
I predicted Youzhny would take the title on Monday already :lol:

Ljubicic played crap :smash:

Kolya
02-26-2007, 10:46 AM
Mischa you deserve this win.

3rd career title, congrats.