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Ljubičić def. Davydenko 4-6, 7-6 (4), 7-6(4)

Deathless Mortal
02-24-2007, 09:24 PM
This time for real :p
Ljubo blew 3 mps on his serve on 5-4 in the third :mad: But managed to win it in the TB. Tough matchNext up Youzhny-Ljubo H2H- 0-6, but all matches were close :scared: This was a really tough match, but Ljubo pulled out to win, so don't call him choker even though he almost choked today :p
Need to be added: 24 aces :smoke:

El Legenda
02-24-2007, 09:24 PM
at *5-4 in 3rd Ivan saved *0-40 and than wasted 3 mp
and won in TB :lol:

AMAZING MATCH from both, no loser today, other than Djokovic :lol:

Bremen
02-24-2007, 09:25 PM
Davydenko does not know how to play a tiebreak...pathetic. Anyway as long as Lubo loses to Misha tomorrow I'm alright with this.

Kolya
02-24-2007, 09:25 PM
Congrats to Ljubo on a great match.

Bad luck Kolya.

Jadranka
02-24-2007, 09:25 PM
24 aces :worship:
:worship:

tennismaster882001
02-24-2007, 09:26 PM
Congrats Ivan, even though he played a poor game when serving for match he always looked like a winner! :worship:

Kolya
02-24-2007, 09:26 PM
Davydenko does not know how to play a tiebreak...pathetic. Anyway as long as Lubo loses to Misha tomorrow I'm alright with this.

Ljubo has the advantage in tie-breaks because of his serve, makes it a lot easier.

scarecrows
02-24-2007, 09:26 PM
great work Ljubo

but tomorrow's gonna be tough against his pigeon

TheBoiledEgg
02-24-2007, 09:27 PM
Kolya, 2 stupid TB's :smash:

played bad in both of them.

2moretogo
02-24-2007, 09:27 PM
Koyla had some bad luck today. But the match was really good. Came down to who would play the big points better.

The point for 6-4 in the second tiebreak was freaking amazing!

Voo de Mar
02-24-2007, 09:27 PM
What a thrilling match :banana:
For the first time I saw Davydenko thrownig his racquet when he lost point which gave tie-break in the third :devil:

Bremen
02-24-2007, 09:27 PM
Ljubo has the advantage in tie-breaks because of his serve, makes it a lot easier.

Well yeah...but he couldn't even take care of his own serve.

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 09:29 PM
holy shit. What a match to watch.

nicole_s
02-24-2007, 09:29 PM
ljubo,you can make people on suicide :eek:

Fergie
02-24-2007, 09:29 PM
Ivan :rocker2:

Voo de Mar
02-24-2007, 09:29 PM
The point for 6-4 in the second tiebreak was freaking amazing!

Yes. It was great.
Today both Djokovic and Davydenko won amazing points but losing their matches :D

Nev
02-24-2007, 09:31 PM
Great match? Haha... that must be hilarious. Ljubicic was horrible with his forehand. And his serve really started to work in the middle of the second set.

Voo de Mar
02-24-2007, 09:31 PM
This time for real :p
Ljubo blew 3 mps on his serve on 5-4 in the third :mad: But managed to win it in the TB.

Ljubo stayed very cool after wasting those match points :cool:

Apemant
02-24-2007, 09:31 PM
Actuall, quality-wise it wasn't so great... too many UEs and general sloppiness from both of them... but the drama of it :eek:

Of course, since they are both bald, unattractive and uncharismatic, most (shallow :devil: ) people won't find it very dramatic either.

But yes, it was a nail-biting, nerve-shattering and heart-breaking experience. I mean, it would have been if it wasn't, after all, just a SF of a MM tourney. :nerner:

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 09:32 PM
Great match? Haha... that must be hilarious. Ljubicic was horrible with his forehand. And his serve really started to work in the middle of the second set.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. How are those dopers of yours doing?

ljubicic_
02-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. How are those dopers of yours doing?

:haha: good one

Deathless Mortal
02-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Ljubo stayed very cool after wasting those match points :cool:

I believed in him :)
After Kolya broke in the first set i predicted 4-6, 7-6, 7-6 :angel:

Blue Heart24
02-24-2007, 09:35 PM
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. How are those dopers of yours doing?

:haha:

muniu
02-24-2007, 09:36 PM
Ljubo :D nice interview:p
Kolya :help: this volley in tb was :help:
anyway nice fight from both :bigclap:
:devil:

el_croata
02-24-2007, 09:38 PM
Ljubo chocked, bud Davidenlo chocked even more



Good luck in final Ljubo , make it 7:0


DIIIIIINAMOOOOOOOOOOOO ZAGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBBBBB

Voo de Mar
02-24-2007, 09:38 PM
I believed in him :)
After Kolya broke in the first set i predicted 4-6, 7-6, 7-6 :angel:


Very nice score. I like when the things are going this way especially if player who I cheered is a winner :D Good revenge for defeat in Adelaide a couple years ago where Davydenko beat Ljubicic 4-6, 6-4, 7-6 saving two match points on a route.

Apemant
02-24-2007, 09:39 PM
Great match? Haha... that must be hilarious. Ljubicic was horrible with his forehand. And his serve really started to work in the middle of the second set.

No, his serve was good right after that first sloppy service game. Anyway, I agree with you that match wasn't great tennis-wise; Misha-Nole was of way better quality. However, both matches were 100% competitive, you couldn't predict the winner right to the end. Those who claim that Federer matches are boring should certainly have enjoyed this. :devil:

el_croata
02-24-2007, 09:42 PM
how many times Ljubo broke people this past week?

Blue Heart24
02-24-2007, 09:42 PM
Ivan :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :yeah: :banana: :banana: :banana: :bigclap: :bigclap:
This match was heart breaking.In the first set,Ljubo was the better man,but he lost concentration in the opening game and that cost him the set.But he was better,in rallies too.In second set,Ivan was dominating but he just couldn't find a way to break Koyla.He played a great TB.He broke in the second Koyla's service game in the third set,played a few good games on serve,and when it same to *5-4 his serve stopped,Davydenko was very agressive,but that's Ljubo's fault.He did a major choke in that game,he had 2 easy volleys to put in when he was on the net(big serve before)but Davydenko passed him.In the TB,Ljubo opened it good,Koyla cam back,then they played a long point at 3-4,Davydenko lost it,and one more after that,and at 3-6 they played the point of tha match,that was fantastic.But big serve did it for Ivan at the end :bigclap:
Good luck against Misha!

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 09:43 PM
how many times Ljubo broke people this past week?


6 maybe 7

Blue Heart24
02-24-2007, 09:44 PM
how many times Ljubo broke people this past week?

De Bakker 2 times,Rochus 1,Mayer 3,and Davydenko 1.

tangerine_dream
02-24-2007, 09:45 PM
How exactly was anybody able to watch this match between the two invisible top ten players?

martinatreue
02-24-2007, 09:46 PM
LJUBEY and MISHA win. :woohoo: My one-handers both won and so did JUSTINE!!! :woohoo:

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 09:46 PM
How exactly was anybody able to watch this match between the two invisible top ten players?

How exactly do you watch any Roddick match?

El Legenda
02-24-2007, 09:48 PM
How exactly was anybody able to watch this match between the two invisible top ten players?

not sure, but Roddick sucks :kiss:

Leo
02-24-2007, 09:50 PM
Nikolay :sad: :sad: I was looking forward to an all-Russian final.

Oh god, it's Ivan vs. Misha for the 3rd time in 2 months! Please win the big points against him for once, Mishgun.

Apemant
02-24-2007, 09:54 PM
I believed in him :)


I must admit I didn't... somewhere in the middle of the 3rd set he started to look extremely sloppy. Did little more than dish service winner after ace after service winner, and nothing on 2nd or Kolya's serves; while in first 2 sets he was constantly putting him under pressure. Since he already was a break up I thought he should be able to close it anyway. But then when he was broken again after saving 3 bps (and wasting 3 MPs :eek: ), I thought Kolya would make it in the end. But then he made several really bad UEs in that TB... and some amazing points as well, but obviously not enough.

What to say. They are both human. Normal guys. Neither of them is actually a great champion; they are vulnerable and shaky and crumble under the pressure, like the next man. If you shoot them, they bleed and die; they aren't robots or superheroes. That's why it's easy for me to like them. I can actually sympathize with them or imagine myself in their shoes :D

tangerine_dream
02-24-2007, 09:54 PM
How exactly do you watch any Roddick match?
Easy. He's better looking and more fun to watch than these two tennis-killing clowns. :)

not sure, but Roddick sucks :kiss:
I admire your steadfastness. :hug:

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. How are those dopers of yours doing?
:lol:

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 09:56 PM
Easy. He's better looking and more fun to watch than these two tennis-killing clowns. :)


I admire your steadfastness. :hug:


:lol:

Oh thats right, i forgot this was MTF. Home of the biggest fanboys and girls around.

Voo de Mar
02-24-2007, 09:57 PM
Some statistic:
Ljubicic after this match is 4-0 in the deciding tie-break in 2007.
His career record: 24-21 (all levels).

Apemant
02-24-2007, 10:00 PM
Easy. He's better looking and more fun to watch than these two tennis-killing clowns. :)

Ahem, then I hope you don't think less of men who prefer watching Sharapova over Henin or Mauresmo ... :devil:

El Legenda
02-24-2007, 10:00 PM
Some statistic:
Ljubicic after this match is 4-0 in the deciding tie-break in 2007.
His career record: 24-21 (all levels).

how many of those 21L came to Roger :o

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 10:03 PM
how many of those 21L came to Roger :o


4:mad:

Voo de Mar
02-24-2007, 10:04 PM
how many of those 21L came to Roger :o

Three times (Marseille, Rotterdam, Shanghai).
Tie-breaks H2H: Federer - Ljubicic 11-2 (including 3-0 in the decider)

Apemant
02-24-2007, 10:04 PM
Some statistic:
Ljubicic after this match is 4-0 in the deciding tie-break in 2007.
His career record: 24-21 (all levels).

Remind me, it is Moya who is the absolute champion of deciding tiebreaks, right? :worship:

Voo de Mar
02-24-2007, 10:05 PM
Remind me, it is Moya who is the absolute champion of deciding tiebreaks, right? :worship:

Exactly :yeah:

el_croata
02-24-2007, 10:05 PM
How exactly was anybody able to watch this match between the two invisible top ten players?



got anyone better in ny to watch dude?
Roddick sucks and you know that very well, but won't admit

Let us enjoy another Ljubo's win, and you go watch american football instead of wasting time on pointless comments here

ChinoRios4Ever
02-24-2007, 10:38 PM
congrats ljubo :yeah: nice match

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-24-2007, 11:22 PM
Watching Ljubicic tonight, made me really appreciate Davydenko's tennis talents. Anyone can see who the better player is, shame about these one-trick serve players we still have.

El Legenda
02-24-2007, 11:41 PM
Watching Ljubicic tonight, made me really appreciate Davydenko's tennis talents. Anyone can see who the better player is, shame about these one-trick serve players we still have.

:lol: Ljubo matched davydenko FH for FH, and Ivan's BH is 10times better. and serve, well no need to say anything.

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-24-2007, 11:43 PM
:lol: Ljubo matched davydenko FH for FH, and Ivan's BH is 10times better. and serve, well no need to say anything.
How about return of serve, movement, volleys? Take the serve about from Ljubibitch, and he wouldn't even be top 50, thats how short of real tennis talent he is.

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 11:45 PM
How about return of serve, movement, volleys? Take the serve about from Ljubibitch, and he wouldn't even be top 50, thats how short of real tennis talent he is.


Cant believe you still dont think a serve is a talent. Why doesnt Rafa just serve a 135 ace in the corner when he is facing a break point?

El Legenda
02-24-2007, 11:48 PM
How about return of serve, movement, volleys? Take the serve about from Ljubibitch, and he wouldn't even be top 50, thats how short of real tennis talent he is.

well Ivan was aways getting to 30 and 40 on return...for a 6'5 guy, his movement is good. and his volley is amazing when he follows in a serve.
you have to be some kind of idiot, you say a player wouldn't even be top 50 without a serve, dont you think players would be working on something else if they didnt have a amazing serve or FH or BH.
if serving 140mph in corners is not a talent, Rochus would be doing it.

keep the hatin coming :kiss:

Deathless Mortal
02-24-2007, 11:50 PM
How about return of serve, movement, volleys? Take the serve about from Ljubibitch, and he wouldn't even be top 50, thats how short of real tennis talent he is.

today: Ljubo 34%, Davydenko 31% :nerner:

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-24-2007, 11:50 PM
Cant believe you still dont think a serve is a talent. Why doesnt Rafa just serve a 135 ace in the corner when he is facing a break point?
Yeh, i'll never believe serving is a talent at all. I mean it is a talent in its own right, but its not something that should be considered a talent on a tennis court. Bring back wooden rackets, and show some of these clowns how real tennis should be played.

Voo de Mar
02-24-2007, 11:52 PM
How about return of serve, movement, volleys? Take the serve about from Ljubibitch, and he wouldn't even be top 50, thats how short of real tennis talent he is.


They say: take speed legs from Davydenko and he wouldn't be here or there ;)
Every player has strong and weak points in his repertoire... maybe except Federer - he is "Mr. Perfect". Serve is a big weapon for Ljubo but not one & only weapon. Karlovic has better serve than Ljubo and they both began career in the same time. But today Karlovic has $1,417,498 on the account and Ljubicic $5,904,000. :wavey:

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-24-2007, 11:53 PM
today: Ljubo 34%, Davydenko 31% :nerner:
Use your common sense, Davydenko has no serve, anyone can return - including Roddick, Karlovic or whatever. Davydenko has a far superior return than Ljubicic can ever dream of.

El Legenda
02-24-2007, 11:53 PM
Yeh, i'll never believe serving is a talent at all. I mean it is a talent in its own right, but its not something that should be considered a talent on a tennis court. Bring back wooden rackets, and show some of these clowns how real tennis should be played.

all the players are using the same type of rackets, and they're still not hitting hard, and you cant say its size. Roddick and Nadal are pretty much the same size.
i wonder how some of Nadal's shots would work with wooden racket.

Apemant
02-24-2007, 11:54 PM
How about return of serve, movement, volleys? Take the serve about from Ljubibitch, and he wouldn't even be top 50, thats how short of real tennis talent he is.

Take the forehand, backhand, volleys, returns and serves from Federer, and he would be my grandma.

Take the serve and volley from Sampras and he would have struggled to reach a GS SF.

I mean really, your arguments sometimes sound so :retard:

El Legenda
02-24-2007, 11:55 PM
Use your common sense, Davydenko has no serve, anyone can return - including Roddick, Karlovic or whatever. Davydenko has a far superior return than Ljubicic can ever dream of.

:lol: Agassi had the best return of all time and still got crushed by Ivan at DC2005

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-24-2007, 11:58 PM
:lol: Agassi had the best return of all time and still got crushed by Ivan at DC2005
:haha: Yeh, a 34 year old, clearly past it. Big deal, get over that.

stebs
02-25-2007, 12:01 AM
Ljubo has the advantage in tie-breaks because of his serve, makes it a lot easier.

Common myth. Stats show this not to be true.

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 12:01 AM
:haha: Yeh, a 34 year old, clearly past it. Big deal, get over that.

Well according to you Ljubo is way past it too. Then why do you make such a big deal everytime he loses?

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-25-2007, 12:01 AM
Take the forehand, backhand, volleys, returns and serves from Federer, and he would be my grandma.

Take the serve and volley from Sampras and he would have struggled to reach a GS SF.

I mean really, your arguments sometimes sound so :retard:
I'm talking about serve, that imo is not a tennis talent. Same with power, which is why i think Coria is the most talented guy out there. Take the serve and power away from all the top 10, and what are u left with.

stebs
02-25-2007, 12:02 AM
:lol: Agassi had the best return of all time and still got crushed by Ivan at DC2005

Best return of second serve. Agassi had a terrible first serve return.

Voo de Mar
02-25-2007, 12:02 AM
:haha: Yeh, a 34 year old, clearly past it. Big deal, get over that.

:aplot:
Montreal 2001: 1st round
Ivan Ljubicic (rank. 73) def. Andre Agassi (rank. 2)
6-2 6-4
:wavey:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 12:02 AM
take away power?

i rest my case

Ass Clown 2007 as you're name written all over it

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-25-2007, 12:02 AM
Well according to you Ljubo is way past it too. Then why do you make such a big deal everytime he loses?
I didn't say he was past it, just that he was never very good in the first place. But yeh, he will be out of the top 10 soon enough.

All_Slam_Andre
02-25-2007, 12:03 AM
Unfortunately for Davydenko, Ljubicic will always be a bad match-up for him on this kind of surface. A big shame as Kolya is undoubtedly the better player of the two as highlighted by the following:
Grand Slam Record - Kolya 2 semi-finals and 4 quarter-finals, Ljubicic 1 semi-final and 1 quarter-final (how pathetic for a so called top ten player especially given how experienced he is :haha: )
Significant titles won - Kolya 1 (Paris Masters), Ljubicic 0

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 12:04 AM
:aplot:
Montreal 2001: 1st round
Ivan Ljubicic (rank. 73) def. Andre Agassi (rank. 2)
6-2 6-4
:wavey:


What happened here AndresNo1Fan? How could a player who is ALL SERVE possibly beat a "legend" so easily?

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-25-2007, 12:05 AM
:aplot:
Montreal 2001: 1st round
Ivan Ljubicic (rank. 73) def. Andre Agassi (rank. 2)
6-2 6-4
:wavey:
Yep, really meaningful match that one. Way to go at clutching at straws, in fact its probably the best result Ljubicic has had in his career :lol:

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-25-2007, 12:06 AM
Unfortunately for Davydenko, Ljubicic will always be a bad match-up for him on this kind of surface. A big shame as Kolya is undoubtedly the better player of the two as highlighted by the following:
Grand Slam Record - Kolya 2 semi-finals and 4 quarter-finals, Ljubicic 1 semi-final and 1 quarter-final (how pathetic for a so called top ten player especially given how experienced he is :haha: )
Significant titles won - Kolya 1 (Paris Masters), Ljubicic 0
:haha:

Is it true that Ljubibitch has not been past the second round of Wimbeldon, US Open?

Apemant
02-25-2007, 12:08 AM
Use your common sense, Davydenko has no serve, anyone can return - including Roddick, Karlovic or whatever. Davydenko has a far superior return than Ljubicic can ever dream of.

Davy can serve up to 212 kph, according to official tournament stats. That is anything but 'no serve'.

But of course Davy has far better returns than Ljubo. Congratulations, you just rediscovered America. Davy was one of top 5 last year in all matchfacts statistics related to returning, while Ljubo was probably out of top 50 in those departments. Hello? Everyone plays to their strengths; that's what makes tennis so great, the battle of totally different playing styles.

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 12:09 AM
Unfortunately for Davydenko, Ljubicic will always be a bad match-up for him on this kind of surface. A big shame as Kolya is undoubtedly the better player of the two as highlighted by the following:
Grand Slam Record - Kolya 2 semi-finals and 4 quarter-finals, Ljubicic 1 semi-final and 1 quarter-final (how pathetic for a so called top ten player especially given how experienced he is :haha: )
Significant titles won - Kolya 1 (Paris Masters), Ljubicic 0

last years Paris was a MM, how many Top 10 players played? 1?

Voo de Mar
02-25-2007, 12:13 AM
Significant titles won - Kolya 1 (Paris Masters), Ljubicic 0

Ok, but on the other hand many top players withdrew from Paris 2006.
Ljubicic was playing three MS finals and lost all after tight matches (including two finals against Federer and Nadal). Is tough to imagine that Davydenko is able to win over Federer or Nadal wherever, especially in Masters Series final or higher.

All_Slam_Andre
02-25-2007, 12:14 AM
:haha:

Is it true that Ljubibitch has not been past the second round of Wimbeldon, US Open?

I think he's been to the third round of both grand slams once. His grand slam record is 1 semi-final, 1 quarter-final, 2 third round defeats, 6 second round defeats and 7 first round defeats. With a record like this in the big events, it is impossible to take his top ten ranking seriously.

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 12:16 AM
:haha:

Is it true that Ljubibitch has not been past the second round of Wimbeldon, US Open?

No true, Ivan made it to USO QF.........

















in doubles :)

scoobs
02-25-2007, 12:17 AM
Wow - a pissing contest between Davydenko and Ljubicic fans.

What fun :)

Jlee
02-25-2007, 12:17 AM
Thanks Ivan! Roddick will be up to #3 because of this result and his win. :cool:

El Legenda
02-25-2007, 12:17 AM
Ljubo will finish ahead of Davyo when the season is set and done.
2 seasons. this year Ivan wont have a virus going in to Madrid and Paris and nothing to defend at USO
also Davyo wont defend the Paris win.

All_Slam_Andre
02-25-2007, 12:17 AM
Ok, but on the other hand many top players withdrew from Paris 2006.
Ljubicic was playing three MS finals and lost all after tight matches (including two finals against Federer and Nadal). Is tough to imagine that Davydenko is able to win over Federer or Nadal wherever, especially in Masters Series final or higher.

Fair enough I suppose. Although Paris 2005 also had a pretty weak draw and Ljubicic wasn't able to take advantage there. Davydenko had a golden opportunity to win his first TMS in Paris, and he took it.

Apemant
02-25-2007, 12:22 AM
I'm talking about serve, that imo is not a tennis talent. Same with power, which is why i think Coria is the most talented guy out there. Take the serve and power away from all the top 10, and what are u left with.

Hang on a second. Serve is not a tennis talent. Ok. How about running? Is being fast a tennis talent? How about energy? Is having limitless energy a tennis talent? And what about mental strength? What does mentality have to do with tennis in particular? And power? OMG it was preciselly Agassi who was one of the first great power players in history, the way he could just slam winners from the baseline was a joy to watch - at least for me. And you say power isn't a tennis thing? Then how come you are his #1 fan; because of his haircut and clothing styles, before he went bald? :devil:

OMG, will you stop with those silly arguments, I'm getting disturbed. You don't strike me as someone with no brains at all, and yet you insist on this nonsense even though many reasonable people told you that you have no case here. How stubborn can you be? Do you also maintain that the Earth is flat, just so you can say that you have 'your own opinion' about everything?

Apemant
02-25-2007, 12:37 AM
Wow - a pissing contest between Davydenko and Ljubicic fans.

What fun :)

There is no such thing here. Davy's fans are nice and decent, it's Ljubo haters that do all the pissing here, probably because Ljubo's fans don't hold themselves back when it's time for pissing at A-Rod or Nadal. It's a goddamn war out there :armed:

croat123
02-25-2007, 12:48 AM
:haha:
this thread is too funny. so many haters were hoping ivan would suck this year :haha:

All_Slam_Andre
02-25-2007, 12:52 AM
:haha:
this thread is too funny. so many haters were hoping ivan would suck this year :haha:

Sure I've been hoping that Ivan would suck this year, and he has done. First round defeat at the Australian Open :haha:

ezekiel
02-25-2007, 01:08 AM
Sure I've been hoping that Ivan would suck this year, and he has done. First round defeat at the Australian Open :haha:

it's not suck , it's standard fare for Ivan Ljubicic. He has a losing record in grand slams and may as well go for a grand slam this year, 1st round grand slam :wavey:

musefanatic
02-25-2007, 01:11 AM
Wow i can't believe Ivan won, what happened to Davy? :confused: Well still, good show, although this thread is damn funny :lol:

All_Slam_Andre
02-25-2007, 01:18 AM
it's not suck , it's standard fare for Ivan Ljubicic. He has a losing record in grand slams and may as well go for a grand slam this year, 1st round grand slam :wavey:

:lol:

Apemant
02-25-2007, 01:22 AM
it's not suck , it's standard fare for Ivan Ljubicic. He has a losing record in grand slams and may as well go for a grand slam this year, 1st round grand slam :wavey:

Yes, he is just human; not a superhero.

Do you only respect people who are on the top of things?

ezekiel
02-25-2007, 01:31 AM
Yes, he is just human; not a superhero.

Do you only respect people who are on the top of things?


relax , we are just making fun of someone who is ahead of himself and his fans and no I am not a Federer fan if that's your assertion, never mind the current avatar

ezekiel
02-25-2007, 01:37 AM
Wow i can't believe Ivan won, what happened to Davy? :confused: Well still, good show, although this thread is damn funny :lol:

I watched last few games and it was basicly all about Davydenko's play and Ivan's serve. Davy made a few small errors in the TB but was clearly more talented player in rallies

Apemant
02-25-2007, 02:37 AM
I watched last few games and it was basicly all about Davydenko's play and Ivan's serve. Davy made a few small errors in the TB but was clearly more talented player in rallies

Yes, in the middle of 3rd set Ljubo suddenly dropped his level (except serve) - not to say he played all that great before, but he was constantly pressuring Kolya's serve while holding his own very comfortably. Kolya didn't have so much as a break point from the 1st game to the one where Ljubo served for the match in the 3rd set. Of course, that is due to his superior serve, but then again, Ljubo had BPs in all 3 sets, and you can't do that by just serving, right?

yomike
02-25-2007, 08:59 AM
Yes!:clap2: Ivan pissed a lot of people today.

Deathless Mortal
02-25-2007, 09:43 AM
2 finals and one title, possible 2 titles, 1 final after today's match is really something. Ivan is the first player in 2007 to reach 3 finals, Malisse is still better, 2 double titles in 4 finals, so he's 4/4. But Ljubo will be very close to Masters at the end of the year if he keeps current form. I can't explain why he lost to Mahut, and now he played awesome and came to the final, but it seems like his form is back. And this is only the beginning of the year. He's unbeatable in Vienna, and better, unbreakable, so he'll probably win that again :) Maybe another title somewhere + if he wins today, and he could reach number of 10 titles.

jazar
02-25-2007, 10:23 AM
what happened to davy? when i saw it he was dictating play and easily winning

Apemant
02-25-2007, 11:56 AM
what happened to davy? when i saw it he was dictating play and easily winning

When did you see that? Need I repeat, from the 1st game of the match to like 3-2 in the 3rd it was Ljubo who was pretty much in control of the match, not Davy.

In all truth, they were both pretty sloppy at times. Davy can play better than this, no doubt, but he did play some amazing rallies still, esp on Ljubo's BPs and MPs. Several times he managed to trick him and catch Ljubo's suboptimal volleys by running to one side and then changing direction suddenly, guessing that Ljubo will go there instead. That's how he saved no less than 2 MPs; I already thought it was over when he somehow managed to get it back and pass Ljubo on the net. I wonder how Ljubo didn't crack for losing all those MPs on his own friggin' serve.

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-25-2007, 01:04 PM
Hang on a second. Serve is not a tennis talent. Ok. How about running? Is being fast a tennis talent? How about energy? Is having limitless energy a tennis talent? And what about mental strength? What does mentality have to do with tennis in particular? And power? OMG it was preciselly Agassi who was one of the first great power players in history, the way he could just slam winners from the baseline was a joy to watch - at least for me. And you say power isn't a tennis thing? Then how come you are his #1 fan; because of his haircut and clothing styles, before he went bald? :devil:

OMG, will you stop with those silly arguments, I'm getting disturbed. You don't strike me as someone with no brains at all, and yet you insist on this nonsense even though many reasonable people told you that you have no case here. How stubborn can you be? Do you also maintain that the Earth is flat, just so you can say that you have 'your own opinion' about everything?
I don't maintain that the Earth is flat, I mean how would I know. I leave that to the more intelligent, knowledgable people, who I am to say.

What do you mean by many reasonable people :lol: on this forum, bit of joke huh? So maintaining my opinion is stubborn, because I think what I think. If I suddenly changed my opinion because what a couple of clowns on a tennis forum think, I would have no mind of my own. I can't win then.

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-25-2007, 01:07 PM
2 finals and one title, possible 2 titles, 1 final after today's match is really something. Ivan is the first player in 2007 to reach 3 finals, Malisse is still better, 2 double titles in 4 finals, so he's 4/4. But Ljubo will be very close to Masters at the end of the year if he keeps current form. I can't explain why he lost to Mahut, and now he played awesome and came to the final, but it seems like his form is back. And this is only the beginning of the year. He's unbeatable in Vienna, and better, unbreakable, so he'll probably win that again :) Maybe another title somewhere + if he wins today, and he could reach number of 10 titles.
Unbeatable in Vienna :haha: He may all these crap MM tournaments, but who is gonna give a damn, when time after time he is dumped out in the first round of GS. I'd rather win 1 GS in a year, and get knocked out the first round of ever single other tournament, than have years that Ljubicic has.

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 01:24 PM
I don't maintain that the Earth is flat, I mean how would I know. I leave that to the more intelligent, knowledgable people, who I am to say.

What do you mean by many reasonable people :lol: on this forum, bit of joke huh? So maintaining my opinion is stubborn, because I think what I think. If I suddenly changed my opinion because what a couple of clowns on a tennis forum think, I would have no mind of my own. I can't win then.


what do you mean you cant wint then? Its not like you are winning now with the garbage that you are saying.

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-25-2007, 01:31 PM
what do you mean you cant wint then? Its not like you are winning now with the garbage that you are saying.
If someone has an opinion, its not a question of winning.

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 01:35 PM
If someone has an opinion, its not a question of winning.

Why is it then that you attack everyone who has an opinion that you disagree with?

Sofonda Cox
02-25-2007, 01:37 PM
GO LJUBO! now take the title:D

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-25-2007, 01:40 PM
Why is it then that you attack everyone who has an opinion that you disagree with?
Er, I don't attack anyone who has a different opinion than myself. I attack clowns like yourself, who hit on Rafa at the first opportunity. I mean tennis, like any other sport, is a game of opinions.

Loremaster
02-25-2007, 01:45 PM
I hope Youzhny will win this final, Ivan run away two times , but now it is time for revenge, so far she is schooling Ivan :worship:

RickDaStick
02-25-2007, 01:51 PM
I hope Youzhny will win this final, Ivan run away two times , but now it is time for revenge, so far she is schooling Ivan :worship:


yes she is.

Nev
02-25-2007, 04:13 PM
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. How are those dopers of yours doing?2º Round Davis Cup ;)