Murray vs. Roddick, who wins

2nd time for them to play in the past week, and frankly, Roddick's only chance if is Murray is tired.

Murray wins. Roddick had a tough enough time with Lu today.

Come on Roddick.

Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen. He isnt even being given a serious chance vs a teenager in his home country indoors.

I believe that if Murray plays well and Roddick plays well that Murray will win 90% of the time so I'm going with Murray.

Roddick obviously has a chance - but it'll be interesting to see if he reverts back to the ultra aggressive, in your face grudge-fest tactics he won with in Cincy or if he plays his normal game. If he serves well and can punish Murray's poor serving then he can win, I just don't think the match-up favours him at all.

Roddick will win if Murray has one of his mental walkabouts. However I'm sure that won't happen as Gilby seems to have him focused propely these past few weeks.

Tiredness I don't think will come into it because if anything he'd have been more tired last week when he was dropping sets. This week, he's been getting the matches over quicker so I doubt that will be a factor. Hence Murray to win!

Unless there is something wrong with him, Murray should win in 2 sets.

Roddick sucks.

Based on todays performance you have to say Murray...

However it wouldn't surprise me if Roddick did win this... Murray's first serve % is iffy and he doesn't want to fall behind against Roddick.

Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen.
Roddick sucks.

:rolleyes:expected.

Murray

:rolleyes:expected.

:hug: :smooch: i still heart you :p

Roddick will get revenge.

If Roddick plays the way he did in Cincy he'll come out with the win, but I don't see that happening. Murray's the pretty obvious favorite...

:hug: :smooch: i still heart you :pAs i do you....i just know you are smarter than that constant comment:kiss:

Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen. He isnt even being given a serious chance vs a teenager in his home country indoors.


At the risk of being dismissed as a stupid bandwagonner- Murray is actualluy...gasp... a real talent. He is a special smart player. I don't know who I want to win because I like them both, but I don't think that if one wins that means the other sucks. Both are good players. Murray is the real deal. As is Roddick- no matter what the haters want to say. He has improved his game, gosh darn.

I find it hard to see Roddick losing to the same player twice in a row, in as many weeks. If it was Federer or another top player ok, but Andy woudln't want to lose to a teen twice in 2 weeks. Though to be honest, I wouldn't be shocked if Murray does indeed win this one.:o

VAMOS ANDY! Wait a moment... Which Andy? :lol:

I think Murray 6-3 7-6(4) :angel:

andy will win :devil:

At the risk of being dismissed as a stupid bandwagonner- Murray is actualluy...gasp... a real talent. He is a special smart player. I don't know who I want to win because I like them both, but I don't think that if one wins that means the other sucks. Both are good players. Murray is the real deal. As is Roddick- no matter what the haters want to say. He has improved his game, gosh darn.

Ah Clara Bow...once again I find myself agreeing with you. Murray is not some kid who got lucky with a couple of wins....we might just be looking at a future world number 1 player. He is mad talented.

And whatever people like to say about Roddick, he isn't some has-been. Federer whipping boy aside, he is always a threat in a tournament.

That being said, I voted for Murray. I think he's a smarter player, and ultimately the better talent. And I think he's just starting to hit his stride. CAN Roddick beat him? Yes. We know he's capable - the edge, though belongs to the young Scot.

I think Roddick's confidence was high and pointed upwards going into AO. It got cut down a lot by the loss to Federer, which is why Roddick isn't playing as well as he was at the end of 2006.

Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen. He isnt even being given a serious chance vs a teenager in his home country indoors.

Ljubo lovers hsouldn't talk about other players falling :rolleyes:

well, after last week's andy-andy match and last night's andy-tsu match, it is hard to call this in favour of roddick.

I would hate to see that grin on Gilbert's face. Nothing against murray though.

Besides, roddick will be just a match away from pigeon-status if he doesn't win tomorrow! :eek:

Besides, roddick will be just a match away from pigeon-status if he doesn't win tomorrow! :eek:

Roddick needs a new coach. Maybe, his uncle;)! That'll give him the necessary emotional resurrection after he lost to Roger at AO.:D

Murray will prevail again.

I think murray but at some point it may all catch up with him - 1st time he has won 8 on the bounce and who knows if that will be today

I think it will mean more to roddick today also and sometimes that can make the difference

Murray will beat him again.Maybe in 3 this time.

Going for Murray to win in 3 sets.

I hope Andy Roddick will win, all theirs matches were close

in San Jose it was close, Roddick just played big points worse the same last year in San Jose, at Wimby Roddick outplayed Murray in first set then he had letdown and Murray outplayed him in next two(byt Andy had something like 10+ chances for break), in Cincy Roddick brought his best game but Murray wasn't 100%.

And last week it was Roddick, who was winning easily up to SF and Murray was struggling but founbd his best form in SF and F, this week Murray is winning easily and Roddick struggling and playing below his best level but maybe this time Roddick will find his best for SF?? Who knows

I hope in will go into 3rd set because all theirs matches were straight sets but were very close. I want Roddick to win, because winning such match nad hopefully tournament will bring him even more confidence.

And I don't think so that Andy problems were casued by Confidence , his TBs record is pretty godd this year (8-3) he has won some close matches also, I think he could not find his game it happens sometimes , but still compared to last year he his doing the job quick up to both SFs he was never in danger of losing even playing badly, but for me it was always sign of very good players winning even when their game is off.

Still it would be hard for Roddick but I hope he will win and get some revenge

Although Murray's been pretty consistent this year results wise, his performances are still quite unpredictable.

The match is down to him, if he serves and plays well he should win. But it wouldn't surprise me to see Roddick step it up and beat him, he'll be fired up big time.

I just hope it's a good match and that there's not so much needle, I like them both and don't like the rivalry :awww:

its time for roddick's revenge

Murray should win this.

I want a winning A-rod

I think Roddick

As i do you....i just know you are smarter than that constant comment:kiss:

It's a constant grudge... many Rodtards keep saying 'Ljubo sucks', and Ljubotards then use every opportunity to say that Roddick sucks, so it just goes on in circles. Not even sure who started it first. :devil: Ah well. Which came first, an egg or a duck? :haha:

Murray has all the confidence and is playing better. If Andy can get it to three sets his chances are better. Come on ;)

I think Murray will win but I do believe Roddick CAN win it. It's just that he has to really be firing on the serve. It has to be as fast as it can be and it has to be very well placed. He's going to get less help off the court this week than he did in San Jose. The serve needs to really get to Murray and not let him get into return games (though if Murray can break Karlovic twice on an ice-rink it's a tall order for Roddick, to be honest).

Roddick needs to be super-aggressive and good with it. He needs to take Murray's time away and volley superbly. He needs to keep Murray guessing and wrong-foot him as much as possible. He will get a lot of second serves to look at - he needs to BRUTALISE them and not just put them back into court. He needs to make Murray worry about his own serve and focus the pressure on Murray holding rather than Roddick holding. And to be honest I think he needs to get in Murray's face and be a bit antagonistic with him - in Cincy Roddick treated Murray like a punk kid who needed a good kicking - and it worked.

This is what I feel Roddick needs to do to win - and I think it's a tall order. I'm not sure he will be able to bring it as much as he needs to. I expect him to be fired up for it though. I just feel this is a bad match-up for Roddick - playing an excellent returner has always given him trouble.

Murray is a horrible match-up for Roddick, and it says a lot when he can't beat the dour Scot on a super-fast indoor court. Murray will probably beat him 8-9 times out of 10, but "instant revenge" is a funny thing (re Henman beating Murray last year), so I wouldn't be shocked if Muzza loses. But the slower court should put Roddick even more on the backfoot than he was last week.

Looks like TENNIS UGLY is the order of the day. :devil:


I think Murray will win but I do believe Roddick CAN win it. It's just that he has to really be firing on the serve. It has to be as fast as it can be and it has to be very well placed. He's going to get less help off the court this week than he did in San Jose. The serve needs to really get to Murray and not let him get into return games (though if Murray can break Karlovic twice on an ice-rink it's a tall order for Roddick, to be honest).

Roddick needs to be super-aggressive and good with it. He needs to take Murray's time away and volley superbly. He needs to keep Murray guessing and wrong-foot him as much as possible. He will get a lot of second serves to look at - he needs to BRUTALISE them and not just put them back into court. He needs to make Murray worry about his own serve and focus the pressure on Murray holding rather than Roddick holding. And to be honest I think he needs to get in Murray's face and be a bit antagonistic with him - in Cincy Roddick treated Murray like a punk kid who needed a good kicking - and it worked.

This is what I feel Roddick needs to do to win - and I think it's a tall order. I'm not sure he will be able to bring it as much as he needs to. I expect him to be fired up for it though.

Current top 5 stats rankings for 2007:

1. Federer - 100%*
2. Murray - 88% :eek:
3. Djokovic - 85%
3. Roddick - 85%
5. Haas - 83%

* Arthurs is also on 100% as I don't count 1st set retirements as a loss :haha: :haha:

The Donald Young award so far goes to Tipsy - 0/6 :help: :o
Wooden Spoon goes to Kevin Kim - 1/7 :bolt:


Nole is a bit surprising as I've not been impressed with his form post-AO...but he gets the job done. :yeah:

Murray again I hope.

Im going with Murray in 2 sets.

Im going with Murray in 2 sets.

Murray or Roddick? I don't know. I reckon Murray.
How pathetic though. Federer will whitewash both.

roddick,I hope

I find it hard to see Roddick losing to the same player twice in a row, in as many weeks. If it was Federer or another top player ok, but Andy woudln't want to lose to a teen twice in 2 weeks.:lol:
So Muzza is still just some journeyman chump?

plus, he has a better record v Rod than pretty much any other so called 'top player, besides Federer' in your eyes.

Murray or Roddick? I don't know. I reckon Murray.
How pathetic though. Federer will whitewash both.Whats Federer got to do with it?
he didnt exactly whitewash him in Cincinnati anyhow.
nice avatar

Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen. He isnt even being given a serious chance vs a teenager in his home country indoors.

It could have been worse, he could have been knocked out in the first round of the last two grand slams. Imagine how humiliating that would be :)

Murray has all the confidence and is playing better. If Andy can get it to three sets his chances are better. Come on ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol: Andy will win in either 2 or 3 sets.

Murray or Roddick? I don't know. I reckon Murray.
How pathetic though. Federer will whitewash both.
:retard:

I can see you'll be a valuable addition to the forum. Welcome :hatoff:

Andy will win

I think Roddick but I hope Murray :)

:retard:

I can see you'll be a valuable addition to the forum. Welcome :hatoff:

Rafa=Fedkilla? :lol:

Andy will win

:haha:

One hundred percent sure that Andy will definitely win, yeah :devil:

"Battle of the puking Andys: Round 5" should be the American beating the Irishman.

4-1 would look better, I like 3-2 in h-t-h way better

"Battle of the puking Andys: Round 5" should be the American beating the Irishman.

Scottishman:o

4-1 would look better, I like 3-2 in h-t-h way better

Umm, care to translate this to plain English? :devil:

4-1 would look better? Did you perhaps want to say '4-1 would look bad'? Otherwise those two sentences sorta contradict one another...

Umm, care to translate this to plain English? :devil:

4-1 would look better? Did you perhaps want to say '4-1 would look bad'? Otherwise those two sentences sorta contradict one another...

Keep in mind this is Loremaster we are talking about. Anyways did you get the nos stream working or have you just been using the stream from the tourney website?

Scottishman:o

Nobody ever remembers that reference (Roddick said something about Gilbert moving to Ireland to coach Murray). I guess I'll stop using it.

I wish 9 pm would hurry up - I am looking forward to another of their match ups. I hope the atmosphere gets hot like in cincy!

Keep in mind this is Loremaster we are talking about. Anyways did you get the nos stream working or have you just been using the stream from the tourney website?

Tried the pr.oxy thing but it was sooo slow and then after all the waiting still denied the licence... just wanted to PM you about it when I noticed tourney website stream started working :cool:

:lol: :lol: :lol: Andy will win in either 2 or 3 sets.

Woops :haha: Faux pas extraordinaire. I am on the fence you see. :p
I meant Andy R of course. Don't you know all good men can read a good woman's mind?;)

Tried the pr.oxy thing but it was sooo slow and then after all the waiting still denied the licence... just wanted to PM you about it when I noticed tourney website stream started working :cool:

I found one yesterday that was really fast. If it works today i will PM it to you. The stream will be slow but once you put the link in WMP it will be perfect.

Rodtards Dicktards. thank you.:p

Nobody ever remembers that reference (Roddick said something about Gilbert moving to Ireland to coach Murray). I guess I'll stop using it.

Guess you should, Roddick is not the sharpest knife in the drawer you know!

Dicktards. thank you.:p

Meant 'ducktards'? :devil:

Meant 'ducktards'? :devil:No.:angel:

No.:angel:

Ahh, Rod-dick: rodtards => dicktards. Roger that. :smoke:

Why not simply dickheads? :p

Murray will probably take this in 2 and then be huge favourite to win the tournament!

Murray will probably take this in 2 and then be huge favourite to win the tournament!

Haas will beat him in the final.

Why not simply dickheads? :p

:eek: :sad:

im very intrested to see how Roddick plays him after last week, i think he will play better, but still with the way Murray returns got to think Murray will take it.

I wish 9 pm would hurry up - I am looking forward to another of their match ups. I hope the atmosphere gets hot like in cincy!
Did you hear? Apparently in Cincy they genuinely tried to hit each other with the ball because they were so desperate to win the match. This was said by Murray recently.

Haas will beat him in the final.
It will be a close match, don't get too confident.

Nobody ever remembers that reference (Roddick said something about Gilbert moving to Ireland to coach Murray). I guess I'll stop using it.

I actually got the reference.:o

Did you hear? Apparently in Cincy they genuinely tried to hit each other with the ball because they were so desperate to win the match. This was said by Murray recently.



yeah they were hitting at each other in Cincy, and think with Gilbert being Andy's coach, there not excatly tight.

Did you hear? Apparently in Cincy they genuinely tried to hit each other with the ball because they were so desperate to win the match. This was said by Murray recently.
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:devil: That was amusing.

What time is this match suppose to start?

What time is this match suppose to start?

Now.:p

:lol:
So Muzza is still just some journeyman chump?

plus, he has a better record v Rod than pretty much any other so called 'top player, besides Federer' in your eyes.
Murray is NOT a top player yet. He's in the same league with his young buddies in Djokovic and Gasquet. Though I'd definitely consider Murray more of a top player than Ljubicic :tape:. Andy (GBR) will be a top player probably come Wimbledon.

He hasn't done nothing yet to warrant him the title "top player", so I don't know what you're talking about. No big title, hasn't been past the QF of a slam, it's not like he's tearing up the top 10 players either.:o

Well good for Roddick for reminding us that sometimes the formbook gets torn in half :)

I am sufficiently chastised.

As usual, MTFers are woefully wrong again. :lol:

it's not like he's tearing up the top 10 players either.:o

8-11 against top ten players. That's not a bad record, is it? :confused: It would be interesting to see how the recent records of the guys in the top ten (outwith Fed and Nadal) matches up with that.

I adore the people who vote AFTER the match (picking the actual result of course)

Yah its funny how they can turn up after the event... of course they were no where to be seen when Muzza fucked him up last week and proved the poll correct that time.
:lol:
He hasn't done nothing yet to warrant him the title "top player", so I don't know what you're talking about. No big title, hasn't been past the QF of a slam, it's not like he's tearing up the top 10 players eitherHe's on the verge of the top10 at 19 and not some journeyman hack like you made him sound.

VAMOS ANDY! Wait a moment... Which Andy? :lol:

I think Murray 6-3 7-6(4) :angel:

Roddick won 6-3 7-6(4) :lol::p