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Murray vs. Roddick, who wins

The Freak
02-24-2007, 01:38 AM
2nd time for them to play in the past week, and frankly, Roddick's only chance if is Murray is tired.

Louche
02-24-2007, 01:40 AM
Murray wins. Roddick had a tough enough time with Lu today.

Federer&Hingis
02-24-2007, 01:41 AM
Come on Roddick.

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 01:42 AM
Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen. He isnt even being given a serious chance vs a teenager in his home country indoors.

Shrinking Violet
02-24-2007, 01:42 AM
I believe that if Murray plays well and Roddick plays well that Murray will win 90% of the time so I'm going with Murray.

Roddick obviously has a chance - but it'll be interesting to see if he reverts back to the ultra aggressive, in your face grudge-fest tactics he won with in Cincy or if he plays his normal game. If he serves well and can punish Murray's poor serving then he can win, I just don't think the match-up favours him at all.

bigbhoy
02-24-2007, 01:43 AM
Roddick will win if Murray has one of his mental walkabouts. However I'm sure that won't happen as Gilby seems to have him focused propely these past few weeks.

Tiredness I don't think will come into it because if anything he'd have been more tired last week when he was dropping sets. This week, he's been getting the matches over quicker so I doubt that will be a factor. Hence Murray to win!

guga2120
02-24-2007, 01:47 AM
Unless there is something wrong with him, Murray should win in 2 sets.

El Legenda
02-24-2007, 01:48 AM
Roddick sucks.

t0x
02-24-2007, 01:50 AM
Based on todays performance you have to say Murray...

However it wouldn't surprise me if Roddick did win this... Murray's first serve % is iffy and he doesn't want to fall behind against Roddick.

partygirl
02-24-2007, 01:54 AM
Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen.
Roddick sucks.

:rolleyes:expected.

Fergie
02-24-2007, 02:07 AM
Murray

El Legenda
02-24-2007, 02:15 AM
:rolleyes:expected.

:hug: :smooch: i still heart you :p

TMJordan
02-24-2007, 02:34 AM
Roddick will get revenge.

Jlee
02-24-2007, 02:36 AM
If Roddick plays the way he did in Cincy he'll come out with the win, but I don't see that happening. Murray's the pretty obvious favorite...

partygirl
02-24-2007, 02:38 AM
:hug: :smooch: i still heart you :pAs i do you....i just know you are smarter than that constant comment:kiss:

Clara Bow
02-24-2007, 02:47 AM
Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen. He isnt even being given a serious chance vs a teenager in his home country indoors.


At the risk of being dismissed as a stupid bandwagonner- Murray is actualluy...gasp... a real talent. He is a special smart player. I don't know who I want to win because I like them both, but I don't think that if one wins that means the other sucks. Both are good players. Murray is the real deal. As is Roddick- no matter what the haters want to say. He has improved his game, gosh darn.

Havok
02-24-2007, 03:06 AM
I find it hard to see Roddick losing to the same player twice in a row, in as many weeks. If it was Federer or another top player ok, but Andy woudln't want to lose to a teen twice in 2 weeks. Though to be honest, I wouldn't be shocked if Murray does indeed win this one.:o

Alonsofz
02-24-2007, 03:11 AM
VAMOS ANDY! Wait a moment... Which Andy? :lol:

I think Murray 6-3 7-6(4) :angel:

ChinoRios4Ever
02-24-2007, 03:41 AM
andy will win :devil:

cmurray
02-24-2007, 04:02 AM
At the risk of being dismissed as a stupid bandwagonner- Murray is actualluy...gasp... a real talent. He is a special smart player. I don't know who I want to win because I like them both, but I don't think that if one wins that means the other sucks. Both are good players. Murray is the real deal. As is Roddick- no matter what the haters want to say. He has improved his game, gosh darn.

Ah Clara Bow...once again I find myself agreeing with you. Murray is not some kid who got lucky with a couple of wins....we might just be looking at a future world number 1 player. He is mad talented.

And whatever people like to say about Roddick, he isn't some has-been. Federer whipping boy aside, he is always a threat in a tournament.

That being said, I voted for Murray. I think he's a smarter player, and ultimately the better talent. And I think he's just starting to hit his stride. CAN Roddick beat him? Yes. We know he's capable - the edge, though belongs to the young Scot.

kobulingam
02-24-2007, 04:50 AM
I think Roddick's confidence was high and pointed upwards going into AO. It got cut down a lot by the loss to Federer, which is why Roddick isn't playing as well as he was at the end of 2006.

Loremaster
02-24-2007, 05:49 AM
Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen. He isnt even being given a serious chance vs a teenager in his home country indoors.

Ljubo lovers hsouldn't talk about other players falling :rolleyes:

R.Federer
02-24-2007, 05:59 AM
well, after last week's andy-andy match and last night's andy-tsu match, it is hard to call this in favour of roddick.

I would hate to see that grin on Gilbert's face. Nothing against murray though.

Besides, roddick will be just a match away from pigeon-status if he doesn't win tomorrow! :eek:

The_Nadal_effect
02-24-2007, 07:08 AM
Besides, roddick will be just a match away from pigeon-status if he doesn't win tomorrow! :eek:

Roddick needs a new coach. Maybe, his uncle;)! That'll give him the necessary emotional resurrection after he lost to Roger at AO.:D

vincayou
02-24-2007, 07:18 AM
Murray will prevail again.

Lullaby
02-24-2007, 07:20 AM
I think murray but at some point it may all catch up with him - 1st time he has won 8 on the bounce and who knows if that will be today

I think it will mean more to roddick today also and sometimes that can make the difference

I♥PsY@Mus!c
02-24-2007, 07:33 AM
Murray will beat him again.Maybe in 3 this time.

Dancing Hero
02-24-2007, 09:24 AM
Going for Murray to win in 3 sets.

Loremaster
02-24-2007, 10:30 AM
I hope Andy Roddick will win, all theirs matches were close

in San Jose it was close, Roddick just played big points worse the same last year in San Jose, at Wimby Roddick outplayed Murray in first set then he had letdown and Murray outplayed him in next two(byt Andy had something like 10+ chances for break), in Cincy Roddick brought his best game but Murray wasn't 100%.

And last week it was Roddick, who was winning easily up to SF and Murray was struggling but founbd his best form in SF and F, this week Murray is winning easily and Roddick struggling and playing below his best level but maybe this time Roddick will find his best for SF?? Who knows

I hope in will go into 3rd set because all theirs matches were straight sets but were very close. I want Roddick to win, because winning such match nad hopefully tournament will bring him even more confidence.

And I don't think so that Andy problems were casued by Confidence , his TBs record is pretty godd this year (8-3) he has won some close matches also, I think he could not find his game it happens sometimes , but still compared to last year he his doing the job quick up to both SFs he was never in danger of losing even playing badly, but for me it was always sign of very good players winning even when their game is off.

Still it would be hard for Roddick but I hope he will win and get some revenge

adee-gee
02-24-2007, 11:37 AM
Although Murray's been pretty consistent this year results wise, his performances are still quite unpredictable.

The match is down to him, if he serves and plays well he should win. But it wouldn't surprise me to see Roddick step it up and beat him, he'll be fired up big time.

I just hope it's a good match and that there's not so much needle, I like them both and don't like the rivalry :awww:

jazar
02-24-2007, 11:41 AM
its time for roddick's revenge

Jaap
02-24-2007, 11:44 AM
Murray should win this.

Klaas_nalbandian
02-24-2007, 11:47 AM
I want a winning A-rod

guille&tati4life
02-24-2007, 11:50 AM
I think Roddick

Apemant
02-24-2007, 11:53 AM
As i do you....i just know you are smarter than that constant comment:kiss:

It's a constant grudge... many Rodtards keep saying 'Ljubo sucks', and Ljubotards then use every opportunity to say that Roddick sucks, so it just goes on in circles. Not even sure who started it first. :devil: Ah well. Which came first, an egg or a duck? :haha:

cobalt60
02-24-2007, 11:54 AM
Murray has all the confidence and is playing better. If Andy can get it to three sets his chances are better. Come on ;)

scoobs
02-24-2007, 12:56 PM
I think Murray will win but I do believe Roddick CAN win it. It's just that he has to really be firing on the serve. It has to be as fast as it can be and it has to be very well placed. He's going to get less help off the court this week than he did in San Jose. The serve needs to really get to Murray and not let him get into return games (though if Murray can break Karlovic twice on an ice-rink it's a tall order for Roddick, to be honest).

Roddick needs to be super-aggressive and good with it. He needs to take Murray's time away and volley superbly. He needs to keep Murray guessing and wrong-foot him as much as possible. He will get a lot of second serves to look at - he needs to BRUTALISE them and not just put them back into court. He needs to make Murray worry about his own serve and focus the pressure on Murray holding rather than Roddick holding. And to be honest I think he needs to get in Murray's face and be a bit antagonistic with him - in Cincy Roddick treated Murray like a punk kid who needed a good kicking - and it worked.

This is what I feel Roddick needs to do to win - and I think it's a tall order. I'm not sure he will be able to bring it as much as he needs to. I expect him to be fired up for it though. I just feel this is a bad match-up for Roddick - playing an excellent returner has always given him trouble.

Horatio Caine
02-24-2007, 01:00 PM
Murray is a horrible match-up for Roddick, and it says a lot when he can't beat the dour Scot on a super-fast indoor court. Murray will probably beat him 8-9 times out of 10, but "instant revenge" is a funny thing (re Henman beating Murray last year), so I wouldn't be shocked if Muzza loses. But the slower court should put Roddick even more on the backfoot than he was last week.

euroka1
02-24-2007, 01:01 PM
Looks like TENNIS UGLY is the order of the day. :devil:


I think Murray will win but I do believe Roddick CAN win it. It's just that he has to really be firing on the serve. It has to be as fast as it can be and it has to be very well placed. He's going to get less help off the court this week than he did in San Jose. The serve needs to really get to Murray and not let him get into return games (though if Murray can break Karlovic twice on an ice-rink it's a tall order for Roddick, to be honest).

Roddick needs to be super-aggressive and good with it. He needs to take Murray's time away and volley superbly. He needs to keep Murray guessing and wrong-foot him as much as possible. He will get a lot of second serves to look at - he needs to BRUTALISE them and not just put them back into court. He needs to make Murray worry about his own serve and focus the pressure on Murray holding rather than Roddick holding. And to be honest I think he needs to get in Murray's face and be a bit antagonistic with him - in Cincy Roddick treated Murray like a punk kid who needed a good kicking - and it worked.

This is what I feel Roddick needs to do to win - and I think it's a tall order. I'm not sure he will be able to bring it as much as he needs to. I expect him to be fired up for it though.

Horatio Caine
02-24-2007, 01:09 PM
Current top 5 stats rankings for 2007:

1. Federer - 100%*
2. Murray - 88% :eek:
3. Djokovic - 85%
3. Roddick - 85%
5. Haas - 83%

* Arthurs is also on 100% as I don't count 1st set retirements as a loss :haha: :haha:

The Donald Young award so far goes to Tipsy - 0/6 :help: :o
Wooden Spoon goes to Kevin Kim - 1/7 :bolt:


Nole is a bit surprising as I've not been impressed with his form post-AO...but he gets the job done. :yeah:

Goonergal
02-24-2007, 01:10 PM
Murray again I hope.

Corey Feldman
02-24-2007, 01:18 PM
Im going with Murray in 2 sets.

Ghosting
02-24-2007, 01:24 PM
Im going with Murray in 2 sets.

Murray or Roddick? I don't know. I reckon Murray.
How pathetic though. Federer will whitewash both.

nicole_s
02-24-2007, 01:24 PM
roddick,I hope

Corey Feldman
02-24-2007, 01:24 PM
I find it hard to see Roddick losing to the same player twice in a row, in as many weeks. If it was Federer or another top player ok, but Andy woudln't want to lose to a teen twice in 2 weeks.:lol:
So Muzza is still just some journeyman chump?

plus, he has a better record v Rod than pretty much any other so called 'top player, besides Federer' in your eyes.

Corey Feldman
02-24-2007, 01:26 PM
Murray or Roddick? I don't know. I reckon Murray.
How pathetic though. Federer will whitewash both.Whats Federer got to do with it?
he didnt exactly whitewash him in Cincinnati anyhow.
nice avatar

All_Slam_Andre
02-24-2007, 02:28 PM
Its a shame to see how much Roddick has fallen. He isnt even being given a serious chance vs a teenager in his home country indoors.

It could have been worse, he could have been knocked out in the first round of the last two grand slams. Imagine how humiliating that would be :)

DrJules
02-24-2007, 02:35 PM
Murray has all the confidence and is playing better. If Andy can get it to three sets his chances are better. Come on ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol: Andy will win in either 2 or 3 sets.

adee-gee
02-24-2007, 02:40 PM
Murray or Roddick? I don't know. I reckon Murray.
How pathetic though. Federer will whitewash both.
:retard:

I can see you'll be a valuable addition to the forum. Welcome :hatoff:

Allure
02-24-2007, 03:08 PM
Andy will win

MissPovaFan
02-24-2007, 03:15 PM
I think Roddick but I hope Murray :)

Horatio Caine
02-24-2007, 03:18 PM
:retard:

I can see you'll be a valuable addition to the forum. Welcome :hatoff:

Rafa=Fedkilla? :lol:

Apemant
02-24-2007, 03:24 PM
Andy will win

:haha:

One hundred percent sure that Andy will definitely win, yeah :devil:

uglyamerican
02-24-2007, 03:30 PM
"Battle of the puking Andys: Round 5" should be the American beating the Irishman.

Loremaster
02-24-2007, 03:36 PM
4-1 would look better, I like 3-2 in h-t-h way better

blosson
02-24-2007, 03:38 PM
"Battle of the puking Andys: Round 5" should be the American beating the Irishman.

Scottishman:o

Apemant
02-24-2007, 03:39 PM
4-1 would look better, I like 3-2 in h-t-h way better

Umm, care to translate this to plain English? :devil:

4-1 would look better? Did you perhaps want to say '4-1 would look bad'? Otherwise those two sentences sorta contradict one another...

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 03:43 PM
Umm, care to translate this to plain English? :devil:

4-1 would look better? Did you perhaps want to say '4-1 would look bad'? Otherwise those two sentences sorta contradict one another...

Keep in mind this is Loremaster we are talking about. Anyways did you get the nos stream working or have you just been using the stream from the tourney website?

uglyamerican
02-24-2007, 03:44 PM
Scottishman:o

Nobody ever remembers that reference (Roddick said something about Gilbert moving to Ireland to coach Murray). I guess I'll stop using it.

Lullaby
02-24-2007, 03:52 PM
I wish 9 pm would hurry up - I am looking forward to another of their match ups. I hope the atmosphere gets hot like in cincy!

Apemant
02-24-2007, 03:56 PM
Keep in mind this is Loremaster we are talking about. Anyways did you get the nos stream working or have you just been using the stream from the tourney website?

Tried the pr.oxy thing but it was sooo slow and then after all the waiting still denied the licence... just wanted to PM you about it when I noticed tourney website stream started working :cool:

cobalt60
02-24-2007, 03:58 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: Andy will win in either 2 or 3 sets.

Woops :haha: Faux pas extraordinaire. I am on the fence you see. :p
I meant Andy R of course. Don't you know all good men can read a good woman's mind?;)

RickDaStick
02-24-2007, 04:05 PM
Tried the pr.oxy thing but it was sooo slow and then after all the waiting still denied the licence... just wanted to PM you about it when I noticed tourney website stream started working :cool:

I found one yesterday that was really fast. If it works today i will PM it to you. The stream will be slow but once you put the link in WMP it will be perfect.

partygirl
02-24-2007, 04:16 PM
Rodtards Dicktards. thank you.:p

bigbhoy
02-24-2007, 04:22 PM
Nobody ever remembers that reference (Roddick said something about Gilbert moving to Ireland to coach Murray). I guess I'll stop using it.

Guess you should, Roddick is not the sharpest knife in the drawer you know!

Apemant
02-24-2007, 04:23 PM
Dicktards. thank you.:p

Meant 'ducktards'? :devil:

partygirl
02-24-2007, 04:26 PM
Meant 'ducktards'? :devil:No.:angel:

Apemant
02-24-2007, 04:34 PM
No.:angel:

Ahh, Rod-dick: rodtards => dicktards. Roger that. :smoke:

Naranoc
02-24-2007, 04:41 PM
Why not simply dickheads? :p

mark_s
02-24-2007, 04:58 PM
Murray will probably take this in 2 and then be huge favourite to win the tournament!

Jaap
02-24-2007, 05:01 PM
Murray will probably take this in 2 and then be huge favourite to win the tournament!

Haas will beat him in the final.

adee-gee
02-24-2007, 05:01 PM
Why not simply dickheads? :p

:eek: :sad:

guga2120
02-24-2007, 05:01 PM
im very intrested to see how Roddick plays him after last week, i think he will play better, but still with the way Murray returns got to think Murray will take it.

mark_s
02-24-2007, 05:16 PM
I wish 9 pm would hurry up - I am looking forward to another of their match ups. I hope the atmosphere gets hot like in cincy!
Did you hear? Apparently in Cincy they genuinely tried to hit each other with the ball because they were so desperate to win the match. This was said by Murray recently.

Haas will beat him in the final.
It will be a close match, don't get too confident.

jeahhh!
02-24-2007, 05:19 PM
Nobody ever remembers that reference (Roddick said something about Gilbert moving to Ireland to coach Murray). I guess I'll stop using it.

I actually got the reference.:o

guga2120
02-24-2007, 05:21 PM
Did you hear? Apparently in Cincy they genuinely tried to hit each other with the ball because they were so desperate to win the match. This was said by Murray recently.



yeah they were hitting at each other in Cincy, and think with Gilbert being Andy's coach, there not excatly tight.

jeahhh!
02-24-2007, 05:25 PM
Did you hear? Apparently in Cincy they genuinely tried to hit each other with the ball because they were so desperate to win the match. This was said by Murray recently.
.

:devil: That was amusing.

LLeytonRules
02-24-2007, 08:01 PM
What time is this match suppose to start?

jeahhh!
02-24-2007, 08:08 PM
What time is this match suppose to start?

Now.:p

Havok
02-24-2007, 09:55 PM
:lol:
So Muzza is still just some journeyman chump?

plus, he has a better record v Rod than pretty much any other so called 'top player, besides Federer' in your eyes.
Murray is NOT a top player yet. He's in the same league with his young buddies in Djokovic and Gasquet. Though I'd definitely consider Murray more of a top player than Ljubicic :tape:. Andy (GBR) will be a top player probably come Wimbledon.

He hasn't done nothing yet to warrant him the title "top player", so I don't know what you're talking about. No big title, hasn't been past the QF of a slam, it's not like he's tearing up the top 10 players either.:o

scoobs
02-24-2007, 09:58 PM
Well good for Roddick for reminding us that sometimes the formbook gets torn in half :)

I am sufficiently chastised.

tangerine_dream
02-24-2007, 10:02 PM
As usual, MTFers are woefully wrong again. :lol:

Shrinking Violet
02-24-2007, 10:03 PM
it's not like he's tearing up the top 10 players either.:o

8-11 against top ten players. That's not a bad record, is it? :confused: It would be interesting to see how the recent records of the guys in the top ten (outwith Fed and Nadal) matches up with that.

scoobs
02-24-2007, 10:05 PM
I adore the people who vote AFTER the match (picking the actual result of course)

Corey Feldman
02-24-2007, 11:07 PM
Yah its funny how they can turn up after the event... of course they were no where to be seen when Muzza fucked him up last week and proved the poll correct that time.
:lol:
He hasn't done nothing yet to warrant him the title "top player", so I don't know what you're talking about. No big title, hasn't been past the QF of a slam, it's not like he's tearing up the top 10 players eitherHe's on the verge of the top10 at 19 and not some journeyman hack like you made him sound.

Alonsofz
02-25-2007, 12:33 AM
VAMOS ANDY! Wait a moment... Which Andy? :lol:

I think Murray 6-3 7-6(4) :angel:

Roddick won 6-3 7-6(4) :lol::p