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Murray beats dr. ivo 6-7 6-4 7-6

kobulingam
02-19-2007, 12:45 AM
A young guy like him defending a tournament is great. I see Murray in the top ten by year end.

Deathless Mortal
02-19-2007, 12:46 AM
Ivooooo :bigcry:

Adler
02-19-2007, 12:46 AM
damn, matches against Ivo are always close, so taking into account that Murray is a headcase the victory is a great thing

Fergie
02-19-2007, 12:47 AM
Ivo :bigcry:

sdtoot
02-19-2007, 12:47 AM
Nice one Murray!!

sodman12
02-19-2007, 12:48 AM
good win for Murray and a good week for Ivo

adee-gee
02-19-2007, 12:48 AM
Good job Andy, look all over at 6-7 0-1*

Karlovic's serve dropped, and Murray started returning a lot better. Some pretty good points actually, Karlovic has improved.

Good job Andy :hatoff:

2moretogo
02-19-2007, 12:48 AM
Great win for Murray!

Regenbogen
02-19-2007, 12:48 AM
Congrats Andy :D :banana:

Deathless Mortal
02-19-2007, 12:48 AM
This is a sad day for tennis...

danton
02-19-2007, 12:49 AM
That was nerve wracking - fantastic result for Andy. 5 hours sleep before work - but it was worth it - great game

yakuzaninja
02-19-2007, 12:50 AM
lol, what a bizarre match that was with Karlovic ripping winners :eek: Murray was steady enough to tame him in the end.

MarcM
02-19-2007, 12:51 AM
Didn't realise Karlovic could volley that well.

A great win though for Murray, he displayed some shots of real genius tonight.

Byrd
02-19-2007, 12:51 AM
wow what an entertaining match, had me biting my nails off and had more twists than an eastenders marathon.

bigbhoy
02-19-2007, 12:52 AM
Irony at it's finest! ;)

Beating the 'serving machine' to the championship with an Ace. :p

Should have won it far more confortable that he did but then again Muzza never does it the easy way, that's for sure.

guilleakd
02-19-2007, 12:52 AM
be careful with ivo in miami or indian wells

scoobs
02-19-2007, 12:53 AM
COME ON!!!!!!!!!!

Fantastic match - Ivo played a terrific match, surprised me I have to say with some of his tennis. Nerve-wracking, nail-biting, great tennis, great drama...too much drama at times for my Murray supporting liking...

Excellent.

Adler
02-19-2007, 12:54 AM
be careful with ivo in miami or indian wells
Miami? Rather not

Sjengster
02-19-2007, 12:55 AM
TENNIS WIN TODAY :yeah:

I'm really happy that a real player won today and not an ace machine, I don't have anything against Ivo, but it would be an embarassment for tennis if he won today. ;)

Wasn't it abundantly obvious from that match that he's far more than an ace machine? He was pulling off some incredible pick-ups at the net, using his forehand well in rallies, and when Murray started patting second serves to his backhand on the ad side he wasn't afraid to run round and smack big forehand returns (as seen when he got the break at the start of the second set).

But anyhow, tennis has risen from the ashes now that Andy "The Phoenix" Murray has forced King Karlo to abdicate his throne.

Voo de Mar
02-19-2007, 12:55 AM
Dr. Ivo served 40th (22-18) time more than 25 aces in a match.

Raquel
02-19-2007, 12:55 AM
5 hours sleep before work - but it was worth it - great game
Same here! ;)

Well done Andy on title #2! :woohoo: Good to see him keep concentration through the third set and pull it out in the TB.

Good luck to Jamie in the doubles :cool:

And kudos to big Ivo this week :yeah:

blank_frackis
02-19-2007, 12:56 AM
I agree that tennis won today, nothing against Karlovic (who actually played some quite good stuff at times) but I always root against players who rely too heavily on a big serve. Well done Murray.

Deathless Mortal
02-19-2007, 12:56 AM
Ivo next plays Memphis, then Las Vegas, more good results :devil:

yakuzaninja
02-19-2007, 12:56 AM
Hopefully Ivo will get his title sometime, maybe at Nottingham, Memphis, Newport or somewhere.

He deserves one :)

zicofirol
02-19-2007, 12:56 AM
TENNIS WIN TODAY :yeah:

I'm really happy that a real player won today and not an ace machine, I don't have anything against Ivo, but it would be an embarassment for tennis if he won today. ;)

he can play, even with a monster serve you have to play to be top 200, he is also hits good volleys...

its dumb to say a real player won, then the players that cant serve and only hang out in the baseline are not "real" players because they are one-dimensional...

Shabazza
02-19-2007, 12:57 AM
TENNIS WIN TODAY :yeah:

I'm really happy that a real player won today and not an ace machine, I don't have anything against Ivo, but it would be an embarassment for tennis if he won today. ;)

Did you watch the match? If you did and still think this way, your bias is evident. Because Karlovic hits more aces than most he has to be an ace machine with no groundstrokes. Yeah right.

Shrinking Violet
02-19-2007, 12:57 AM
Great match. Ivo had me cursing him at times, then I felt guilty because he was actually playing well. He played a great match and although Andy is clearly the better all round player, Ivo played a great match. That serve - I laughed a little when someone said it was the best shot in tennis but it could be way up there. I mean Andy isn't a chump when it comes to returning and he could hardly do anything with it, and when he did get a racket on it Ivo was putting the wingspan to use at the net with some nice volleys.

Just a great match and full credit to both guys. Andy for successfully defending his title and Ivo for having a great tournament.

ChinoRios4Ever
02-19-2007, 12:57 AM
woooow Muzza beat that ace machine
congrats scot :yeah:
good week for dr. ivo...

A_S
02-19-2007, 12:59 AM
I would have said that after the first set, but he really did hit the spot with some or most of his net play after that.Evo was hitting the lines and to be honnest he did get get the lions share of the luck, several deep volleys hitting the line which tbh could have gone either way, but murray managed to keep his head (if not his cool at times ;) ) He really didnt get the rub of the green at all today, but managed to pull it out and stay relativly calm, I was impressed :)

Lullaby
02-19-2007, 01:00 AM
The lob in the breaker :worship:

Congrats andy - It took some time but you worked it out!

blank_frackis
02-19-2007, 01:00 AM
he can play, even with a monster serve you have to play to be top 200, he is also hits good volleys...

its dumb to say a real player won, then the players that cant serve and only hang out in the baseline are not "real" players because they are one-dimensional...

Of course he can play, personally I was very impressed with Karlovic, but relatively speaking he relies far more on his big serve than other players. Serving aces are as much a skill as hitting drop volleys or terrific forehands, but from an entertainment perspective few of us enjoy watching it. It's not that he's not a real player (he's a very good player as far as I'm concerned) it's that tennis benefits more from these players losing in my opinion.

sdtoot
02-19-2007, 01:01 AM
Well played to both players - fantastic final.

A_S
02-19-2007, 01:01 AM
he can play, even with a monster serve you have to play to be top 200, he is also hits good volleys...

its dumb to say a real player won, then the players that cant serve and only hang out in the baseline are not "real" players because they are one-dimensional...

well perhaps at best 2 dimentional, he never really looked like passing or even threatening other than standing behind his serve or at the net. all credit to him though, he did what he could fantasticly, and yeah he did play some nice approach shots at times. I think its nieve to suggest he is much more than that, its clearly the way he plays his best tennis and fair enough, its about winning after all, however, a lot more playes have a lot better all round game...

*Viva Chile*
02-19-2007, 01:03 AM
*cough* I erased the post *cough* don't kill me please

CmonAussie
02-19-2007, 01:04 AM
Of course he can play, personally I was very impressed with Karlovic, but relatively speaking he relies far more on his big serve than other players. Serving aces are as much a skill as hitting drop volleys or terrific forehands:eek: :eek: , but from an entertainment perspective few of us enjoy watching it. It's not that he's not a real player (he's a very good player as far as I'm concerned) it's that tennis benefits more from these players losing in my opinion.


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Serving aces when you`re 2-metres tall with a reach of 4-metres [racket & arm extended]~~ is a skill:confused: :confused:
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Sorry but if I were serving from 4-metres in the sky I reckon I`d be able to get a couple of dozen aces per match myself:p

Voo de Mar
02-19-2007, 01:04 AM
Karlović is now 23-24 in a third set TB (all levels)

Sjengster
02-19-2007, 01:06 AM
##
Serving aces when you`re 2-metres tall with a reach of 4-metres [racket & arm extended]~~ is a skill:confused: :confused:
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Sorry but if I were serving from 4-metres in the sky I reckon I`d be able to get a couple of dozen aces per match myself:p

Aces are about placement first, not power.

Jimnik
02-19-2007, 01:06 AM
Congrats Murray. Yet another superb demonstration of how to return big serves. Karlovic actually had to pull off a lot of very difficult low volleys. Just like in the Roddick match, he performed well on the important points, converting 50% of BP opportunities to Karlovic's 20%. Again that was probably the biggest difference between him and his opponent.

This should be a much better year for Muzza. I fancy him to win 4 or 5 titles.

A_S
02-19-2007, 01:07 AM
Did you watch the match? If you did and still think this way, your bias is evident. Because Karlovic hits more aces than most he has to be an ace machine with no groundstrokes. Yeah right.

well, i remember them brining some stats up in the 3rd, as people are saying, 20 plus aces, and as that stat said (iirc) 45+ net approaches. some what suggests...

zicofirol
02-19-2007, 01:08 AM
Of course he can play, personally I was very impressed with Karlovic, but relatively speaking he relies far more on his big serve than other players. Serving aces are as much a skill as hitting drop volleys or terrific forehands, but from an entertainment perspective few of us enjoy watching it. It's not that he's not a real player (he's a very good player as far as I'm concerned) it's that tennis benefits more from these players losing in my opinion.

yes, but I would prefer to see guccione vs karlovic, than montanes vs hernandez, s & v tennis is entertaining, just because 90% of members here have never seen it, they speak out of their ass when they say its boring tennis, and like I said at least the karlovic games go by quickly, imagine a ferrer-robredo match what a 3 hour bore it must be...

Macbrother
02-19-2007, 01:08 AM
I haven't really followed Karlovic, has he always been capable of some momentary shotmaking or has he shown improvements here?

Action Jackson
02-19-2007, 01:09 AM
Well done to Murray for his defending his title and breaking Karlovic twice in the 2nd set and also to big Ivo for making the final not long coming back after injury.

As the ninja said, go to Newport and maybe he can win the title there.

A_S
02-19-2007, 01:09 AM
problem with evos s+v tennis is it doesnt leave much scope for passing or good points, its hard serve, lucky return big reach and hence pretty boring.

CmonAussie
02-19-2007, 01:10 AM
Aces are about placement first, not power.


:wavey:
With the angle Ivo is able to get on his serves from 4-metres in the air it`s much easier to place the ball where you want to;)
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I know power isn`t everything
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But when you`re able to get 2nd serve aces the way Ivo does~>> then doesn`t it tell you something:confused:
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It`s obviously easier for tall guys to both place the ball where they want & generate power with an increased likelyhood that the ball will get inside the lines;)

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Ivo is the tallest player on the ATP circuite isn`t he:confused:

Byrd
02-19-2007, 01:10 AM
Karlovic will probably pull out of memphis, he was nursing an injured knee by the end of the 3rd set, but props to the guy, he brought it to murray and I honestly thought the match was finished after the break in the first game of the 2nd set.

Sjengster
02-19-2007, 01:13 AM
:wavey:
With the angle Ivo is able to get on his serves from 4-metres in the air it`s much easier to place the ball where you want to;)
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I know power isn`t everything
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But when you`re able to get 2nd serve aces the way Ivo does~>> then doesn`t it tell you something:confused:
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It`s obviously easier for tall guys to both place the ball where they want & generate power with an increased likelyhood that the ball will get inside the lines;)

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Ivo is the tallest player on the ATP circuite isn`t he:confused:

I don't think he had that many second serve aces, as far as I recall. I still think putting the serve on the line, in the corners, is a skill that takes far more than just height to achieve.

jitterbug
02-19-2007, 01:14 AM
Impressive match from Andy and Ivo.. I'm glad Andy won but I think that Ivo played some terrific tennis too.

Horatio Caine
02-19-2007, 01:17 AM
Congrats Andy!! :bounce:

Ivo :sad: Hopefully third time lucky! :yeah:

Lullaby
02-19-2007, 01:19 AM
Good start to the year all in all for murray with final, 4th Round, win in 1st three tourneys

Yappa
02-19-2007, 01:19 AM
The end of the match offered high quality tennis. :yeah: Congrats Andy M. :)

Apart from the fact that Murray returned far better than Fish and Becker (which was of course what we all expected), it was IMO clear that Ivos serve wasn't "on" like in those past matches. It more than once lacked the necessary precision.

blank_frackis
02-19-2007, 01:20 AM
I don't think he had that many second serve aces, as far as I recall. I still think putting the serve on the line, in the corners, is a skill that takes far more than just height to achieve.

Absolutely, there have been some decidedly awful tall servers over the years. I think we tend to treat a great serve like some innate ability far too often when players like Karlovic have to work incredibly hard to serve like that. I never had a great serve when I used to play and it was the thing I worked on more than anything.

scoobs
02-19-2007, 01:23 AM
Ivo's serve ran out of steam a bit. In the second the serve % dropped off from him, in the third he recovered the %, at the expense of some of the pace.

I think his knee started to bother him and he struggled to push off the serve and so took the pace off.

In the end, he hasn't placed a full week's tennis in ages and I think he was physically feeling it a bit. He seemed to hit the wall a bit early in the third before getting a second wind.

bigbhoy
02-19-2007, 01:28 AM
The end of the match offered high quality tennis. :yeah: Congrats Andy M. :)

Apart from the fact that Murray returned far better than Fish and Becker (which was of course what we all expected), it was IMO clear that Ivos serve wasn't "on" like in those past matches. It more than once lacked the necessary precision.

That's what Murray is best at, returning serves, bit power hits & overall ball retrieval. The fact that his 1st serves were down in the match & weren't as effective should be credited to Murray for his ability to return & read them. Thus making him unsure of himself & allowing errors to creep in.

Look at Karlovic's record. It was something like 50+ games & he only lost his serve once. Yet Murray broke him twice in the one set! :worship:

Should in all honesty have won it far easier than he did in the end up.

Will be interesting to see if Karlovic plays in Memphis because Murray is also playing there, as well I think Roddick among others. Will be interesting to see if he draws any of them in the early rounds!

Merton
02-19-2007, 01:35 AM
Andy :hatoff: He did well to defend his title and it was not easy after losing the first set. I hope Ivo gets a title this year.

krystlel
02-19-2007, 04:03 AM
Good final, definitely better than expected. I was quite impressed by Karlovic today. :yeah:

Guybrush
02-19-2007, 04:23 AM
Nice to see that the TRAITOR lost a final in a tie break! There is god! :devil:

Thank you Muzza! :worship:

TroilusCriseyde
02-19-2007, 04:25 AM
Wonderful match.

jazar
02-19-2007, 06:51 AM
dammit ivo, you had him in the palm of your hand and let it slip

Avid Merrion
02-19-2007, 07:52 AM
:banana: well done Andy!!
San Jose, so good you have to win it twice :cool: congrats to Jamie and Butorac on the doubles too :yeah:

Apemant
02-19-2007, 07:59 AM
Will there be a rerun of this match anywhere? Couldn't watch it live...

Anyway, judging from the (non-troll :devil: ) comments, this sounds like some great stuff. Murray saved the tennis world, proved his returning excellence, while dr. Ivo proved to be more than just serve (well, not MUCH more, but still...)

Well done Andy. :yeah: 2nd title under the belt. Keep on rolling those...

oz_boz
02-19-2007, 08:02 AM
Ivo :awww: Deserves a title IMO. But well played of Andy, esp breaking twice in the 2nd set.

Serving takes talent btw. Obviously easier for Ivo than most other guys, but he's still very impressive.

Corey Feldman
02-19-2007, 09:03 AM
:woohoo: brilliant!
Next on to Elvis state for another title champ

I couldnt follow the match last night, so had to relive it in the live scoring thread :)..

BREAK!
LOL. What a fool murray is.
I want to make a thread in GM. Karlovic beats Murray 76 64 but it would get deleted.
Why would it get deleted?
Well i want to do it now cuz we all know that will be the score. The mods delete that if its not over.
rebreak:sad:
thank me later murray fans

Thanks Ivan :wavey:

Jogy
02-19-2007, 09:19 AM
Yeah, Murray the winer is okay, but could have seen Ivo winnig it also!

Good week for both, compared to another tournament very deserved winner at least :worship:

Bibberz
02-19-2007, 09:22 AM
I thought Ivo's nerves showed in that last set. Still, give credit to Murray for being clutch. Someone mentioned it earlier, but it bears repeating: that lob was otherworldly. Did you see Ivo's face after that point? He looked sad, dejected, and furious....Great match.

Corey Feldman
02-19-2007, 09:24 AM
and congrats Muzza brother :yeah:

Guybrush
02-19-2007, 10:05 AM
Serving takes talent btw.

Not when you are 208 cm (6'10'') tall. :o

musefanatic
02-19-2007, 10:08 AM
Bloody wonderful Andy, well when he finally got going :) Well done, well worth staying up till 2 and then college the next day :woohoo: Roll on a different title!!!

Karlovic did himself proud too although it's obvious from his groundstrokes he's never going to be a wonderful player but :eek: That serve of his is scary man! 142 miles an hour! phew!!

I just hate the fact i didn't get to see the awards cos the stupid american channel cut the link to eurosport :( But well done, great job Andy and Brad, who looked very nervous during some of that i must say :)

CmonAussie
02-19-2007, 10:10 AM
Not when you are 208 cm (6'10'') tall. :o

:wavey:
Exactly my point;)

scoobs
02-19-2007, 10:24 AM
Okay, Ivo is 6'10 but that doesn't mean serving suddenly becomes piss easy - certainly not to the accuracy and power Karlovic can get on it. He has to have great skill. I'm not particular fan of his but he has clearly worked very hard to make that serve as good as it is.

What makes it more difficult for the returner is that, because he is so tall, the ball rears up at a different trajectory than that which they are used to seeing and it's the same effect as when a lefty serves - they don't see it that often, the ball is coming to them in an unusual way and it's hard to get used to returning it, quite apart from the speed and accuracy he can get.

Second, is that, because he is so tall, he can also realistically hit spots on the side service line that other players simply cannot because their contact point is too low to make the trajectory possible - he can get it SO short up the service box - some of the serves he hit last night like that, after bouncing, were almost going away from Murray sideways into the crowd. Nothing a player can do about that.

Karlovic's serve is a weapon because he is so tall, but also because he's good and has worked very hard on it.

I'm also pleased to see he's worked very hard on the forehand, sliced backhand and volleys since I last saw him up close and his game is a ton better for it. I'm never going to really enjoy watching him unless

a) he's up against someone like Murray who can find ways into his return games and give us some rallies
b) he still loses to these players :)

But I thought Karlovic played a very good match, deserved to be in the final, and in the end it seemed like nerves and a bit of fatigue made the difference. Murray just physically a little stronger.

adee-gee
02-19-2007, 10:28 AM
But I thought Karlovic played a very good match, deserved to be in the final, and in the end it seemed like nerves and a bit of fatigue made the difference. Murray just physically a little stronger.
First time we've said that :o

I think the work he put in during the offseason is beginning to show, he didn't look at all tired during the 3rd set, and found his best serves when he needed them most despite a tough week.

It'll be interesting to see how he does on clay now, he says it's his favourite surface but I'm sceptical whether he could compete over 5 sets with the likes of Nadal, Canas, Boredo and basically anyone who will make you play a ton of balls.

scoobs
02-19-2007, 10:41 AM
I think clay was his favourite surface, having spent so much time on it in Barcelona.

I think he'd say now he prefers Hardcourts - preferably American ones :)

Having said that, he has said he's looking forward to getting on the clay this year and I think it would be a mistake to underestimate him on it. Especially if his stamina continues to improve.

Blue Heart24
02-19-2007, 11:18 AM
Ivo :sad:
But you had him! :fiery:
After that break,I started to celebrate :(
But he was too scary to hold

vincayou
02-19-2007, 11:35 AM
Hardcourt will be hist best surface and where he will rake titles. Grass a bit behind.

Clay a lot behind, his results last year were unimpressive. He hasn't done anything on this surface since he's professional. Not even 2 victories in a row.

Let's see what he does this year.

Yappa
02-19-2007, 11:48 AM
I just hate the fact i didn't get to see the awards cos the stupid american channel cut the link to eurosport :(

Normally, ES doesn't show the ceremonies of Non-GS tourneys, but maybe this time, since Murray won, they would have done it, who knows. Do they have to pay for every minute, or why do they usually stop the coverage right after the end of the match?


Second, is that, because he is so tall, he can also realistically hit spots on the side service line that other players simply cannot because their contact point is too low to make the trajectory possible - he can get it SO short up the service box - some of the serves he hit last night like that, after bouncing, were almost going away from Murray sideways into the crowd. Nothing a player can do about that.


At some points I really had to shake my head in disbelief, since those angles were something I barely see.

superhoops
02-19-2007, 11:55 AM
Well done Muzza Bros!

sdtoot
02-19-2007, 01:04 PM
Has anybody seen a picture of Andy holding the winning trophy? Can't help thinking that it slightly resembled a female sex toy from a distance!!

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-19-2007, 02:39 PM
Thank goodness for this result, it means some credibility still exists in tennis.

Goonergal
02-19-2007, 06:08 PM
Andy :woohoo: and for Jamie too!

Sofonda Cox
02-19-2007, 06:29 PM
murray makes me sick - like Escude

Corey Feldman
02-19-2007, 07:01 PM
murray makes me sick - like Escude:awww: :sad:

cobalt60
02-19-2007, 07:19 PM
:awww: :sad:

:hug:

scoobs
02-19-2007, 08:21 PM
murray makes me sick - like Escude
Vomit away - for the next 12 years or so. That's fine by me.

Alexandy
02-19-2007, 08:56 PM
So happy for Murray. I thought it was over after he got broken in the first game of the second set, but way to fight back. Murray is so good.

Ivo played well also. The other players better watch out for him. I think he's more than just serve. His volleys looked pretty good too.

Way to go Jamie and Booty as well. I'm so glad they were able to win the doubles. Did anyone else here someone in the crowd yell out, "booty, booty, booty, booty rockin' everywhere." Or something like that? :lol:

Mechlan
02-19-2007, 10:45 PM
Wish I could have seen this. My congrats to Andy for the win. Fantastic way to start the year off - finals of Doha, quality showing at the AO, and now a win in San Jose. Hope he keeps this up.

R.Federer
02-19-2007, 11:29 PM
#4 in the Champions' race. Not a bad start to the year at all. Only 5 points behind roddick (but also only 2 points ahead of haas).

Loremaster
02-20-2007, 07:12 AM
I am not a Murray fan but I very happty that he won, because in this match TENNIS won, Karlovic is making finals only because he is so tall, without serve girls would be kicking his ass

Apemant
02-20-2007, 08:35 AM
I am not a Murray fan but I very happty that he won, because in this match TENNIS won, Karlovic is making finals only because he is so tall, without serve girls would be kicking his ass

This is a :retard: thing to say. It is mostly height, indeed, which makes his serve so tough. But it is also height that hinders his movement and his groundstrokes; his height makes him bend his knees to receive every shot by his opponent; his height makes him react slower (as nerves have fixed speed of transmitting information it's well known that short people react faster).

So, if he was shorter, surely his serve would be gone, but also he wouldn't move so badly and would certainly find easier to hit groundies. He would also be more inclined to train them harder. Any way you look at it, your buts and ifs just don't make any sense.

t0x
02-20-2007, 09:55 AM
I am not a Murray fan but I very happty that he won, because in this match TENNIS won, Karlovic is making finals only because he is so tall, without serve girls would be kicking his ass

That might be a little harsh. Ivo surprised me in this final, it's the first time I've seen him play for years. His volleying was very, very good and his forehand actually looked like a weapon in stages. The problem is, even I might have a better backhand than him lol.

nobama
02-20-2007, 11:24 AM
I am not a Murray fan but I very happty that he won, because in this match TENNIS won, Karlovic is making finals only because he is so tall, without serve girls would be kicking his assIf you're implying that Karlovic's groundies suck, you could say the same thing about Roddick. And he's not 6'10.

ASP0315
02-20-2007, 11:45 AM
Congrats Murray.

Nice fight from Ivo. His strokes improved a lot. He had a lot of breakpoints in the third.

Rogiman is right. The combination Roddick's mediocore groundstrokes and Ivo Karlovic serve will dominate the game.

Corey Feldman
02-20-2007, 01:34 PM
I am not a Murray fan but I very happty that he won, because in this match TENNIS won, Karlovic is making finals only because he is so tall, without serve girls would be kicking his assAlot of talk about Karlovic's baseline game...
but he still managed to break Blake and Fish towards winning matches, broke muzza in the final once..
he broke Hewitt plenty of times when he was wimbledon champ in 2003.
just coz he serves out of a tree doesnt mean he cant play the odd good game on his opp's serve.

The_Nadal_effect
02-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Is Murray playing in the Dubai open?

Morgan Z
02-20-2007, 02:32 PM
No, he will train and then play in Indian Wells.

bigbhoy
02-20-2007, 02:40 PM
No, he will train and then play in Indian Wells.

Actually he's playing Memphis this week (which Roddick & Karlovic are also supposed to be playing as well). IW doesn't start to 5th Marc. So if he goes well in Memphis, he should have a couple of days off before starting in IW.

tennisrocks123
02-22-2007, 08:54 PM
WEIRD trophy.. It's pretty suggestive.