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Dr. Ivo vs. Murray, who wins?

The Freak
02-18-2007, 02:01 PM
Murray has one of the best return of serves, but Karlovic has the best serve in tennis, it should be interesting.

Jimnik
02-18-2007, 02:04 PM
Murray.

The doctor is a perfect match-up for the brat.

ASP0315
02-18-2007, 02:05 PM
Ivo 7-6 6-4

Fergie
02-18-2007, 02:05 PM
Ivo :rocker2:

Alonsofz
02-18-2007, 02:07 PM
I think Murray... But VAMOS IVO!

blosson
02-18-2007, 02:13 PM
Murray.

Grenouille
02-18-2007, 02:14 PM
Andy is too smart to lose against Ivo.

euroka1
02-18-2007, 02:18 PM
Young Andy is pretty good at constructing points on court. He should do well.

Mateya
02-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Yeah, if he puts that (fisrt or second) serve back, he has got 80% chance of winning the point from the baseline :)
Come on, Ivo must not win...shame for tennis.

superhoops
02-18-2007, 02:25 PM
Murray in 3.

Apemant
02-18-2007, 02:28 PM
Young Andy is pretty good at constructing points on court. He should do well.

Constructing points vs. Ivo is irrelevant. Just hit the ball to his backhand and the point is yours.

What this amounts to is getting his 1st serves back, and holding nerves on your own serve. No more, no less. I think Andy can do it.

Langers
02-18-2007, 02:34 PM
Murray, 7-5, 7-5.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2007, 02:38 PM
Interesting match because I doubt Ivo would break Roddick, but I think he has more chance of breaking Murray. However, Murray has more chance of breaking Ivo than Roddick :lol:

I wouldn't be shocked if Ivo won in all honesty :shrug: But I expect Murray to somehow win the most important poiints.

Bilbo
02-18-2007, 02:38 PM
Murray in 2

Corey Feldman
02-18-2007, 02:40 PM
Andrew Muzza all the way
no doubt about it.
in 2

scarecrows
02-18-2007, 02:43 PM
Dr Ivo in 2 TBs

Apemant
02-18-2007, 02:45 PM
Murray in 2

:haha:

Don't jinx Muzza, please...

Voo de Mar
02-18-2007, 02:49 PM
I feel surprisingly easy win to Murray 6-4 6-4.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2007, 02:51 PM
:haha:

Don't jinx Muzza, please...

Cya Muzza.

There...curse reversed :yeah:

Hugh Jaas
02-18-2007, 02:53 PM
I fink if karlovic serves 40+ he will have a 50% chance, we all know that will never happen so ivo has no chance to beat a quality player like murray.

Also if Murray gets into ANY rally he'll make karlovic look like the worlds biggest futures level chump.

gusman890
02-18-2007, 03:03 PM
I suspect Ivo will win, just because he is serving lights out right now, and Murray had a tough time with Roddick, and Karlovic is dropping Aces like Santa on Christmas.

kindablue
02-18-2007, 03:04 PM
Cya Muzza.

There...curse reversed :yeah:

You should quote the great Bilbo :lol:

So its cya Muzza (copyright Bilbo)

I think the result will be 7-6 6-7 7-6 (don't know who wins)

LLeytonRules
02-18-2007, 03:08 PM
Ivo in 2 sets.

Shrinking Violet
02-18-2007, 03:18 PM
Murray in three. He's just a better player but Ivo's serve is something that you can't really account for so it's not as simple as it should be on courts like this. Andy's serve won't be under as much pressure as it would against a player with better groundies but his returning game won't be as effective as a guy who fires down bombs that often.

I'm kinda on the fence. I want Andy to win but it could go either way.

stuey87
02-18-2007, 03:44 PM
Karlovic in 3 or Murray in 2. I think if Ivo can get a set, perhaps through a tiebreak, then he'll eventually win.

*Viva Chile*
02-18-2007, 04:17 PM
Murray can return anything so, Murray will win without a doubt but I don't know what score will be or it will be in 2 or 3 sets.

yakuzaninja
02-18-2007, 04:17 PM
Murray in 2. Karlovic has never experienced an ATP title success either and he think he might freeze on the day, like he did at Queen's when Roddick took both TBs easily.

bigbhoy
02-18-2007, 04:21 PM
Murray in three. He's just a better player but Ivo's serve is something that you can't really account for so it's not as simple as it should be on courts like this. Andy's serve won't be under as much pressure as it would against a player with better groundies but his returning game won't be as effective as a guy who fires down bombs that often.

I'm kinda on the fence. I want Andy to win but it could go either way.

Put it this way: If anybody is gonna be able to return the Karlovic bombs, then I'm sure there is no one better equipped to do so than Murray.

He is very dangerous because he's so consistent on serve. Other than that he's mediocre for the remaining parts of his game.

As long as Murray keeps his nerve when serving then he should be able to get a break or if needs be take it in the tie break.

I'm going for straight sets. 6-4 & 7-5 or 7-6 in the other set.

Not reallt caring how crappy he wins, just as long as he does. If for nothing else, other than the sake of tennis!

Fed=ATPTourkilla
02-18-2007, 04:38 PM
Can't call this. I think Roddick would have beaten Ivo because there's just no way Ivo would get any points on Andy's serve. But Ivo will get more chances on Murray's serve and may be able to shut him out on his own service games.

Jaap
02-18-2007, 04:43 PM
Murray should win this.

danton
02-18-2007, 04:43 PM
Andy is the current 'points won returning first serve' leader on the ATP site.

Whereas Ivo leads 'first serve points won'.

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/matchfacts/

I'm really looking forward to this match. Although I want Andy to win I hope they both bring their A games - it could be one hell of a match.

Deathless Mortal
02-18-2007, 04:52 PM
:shrug:

Agassi Aces
02-18-2007, 05:11 PM
Even though Karlovic's serve has only been broken once this week by Blake in Round Two, I'm still edging Murray in two tight sets. 7-6 7-5. I think Murray has the weapons to break down the Karlovic serve. Should be a great match and LIVE on Eurosport 2 in Britain from 11pm!!!!!

danton
02-18-2007, 05:15 PM
Even though Karlovic's serve has only been broken once this week by Blake in Round Two, I'm still edging Murray in two tight sets. 7-6 7-5. I think Murray has the weapons to break down the Karlovic serve. Should be a great match and LIVE on Eurosport 2 in Britain from 11pm!!!!!

It's been a long weekend and I know i'll be yawning like mad at work tomorrow but I am not going to miss this match. Bring on the coffee!

DrJules
02-18-2007, 05:21 PM
Murray.

The doctor is a perfect match-up for the brat.

Having watched highlights of the Murray-Roddick semi-final Roddick appeared to be a bigger brat.

DrJules
02-18-2007, 05:24 PM
Murray.

Following the decline of Hewitt and Nalbandian, I believe Murray is the second best returner in the world after Federer, hence, his record against Roddick.

gusman890
02-18-2007, 05:35 PM
Karlovic defeated Hewitt (in a peroid where he was a great returner) both on grass none the less.

So Karlovic has a decent chance.

Allure
02-18-2007, 05:40 PM
Murray

jazar
02-18-2007, 06:28 PM
if ivo doesnt win i'll slit someone's wrists

yakuzaninja
02-18-2007, 06:30 PM
if ivo doesnt win i'll slit someone's wrists

Be prepared for many court appearances in the next ten years in that case.

jazar
02-18-2007, 06:36 PM
Be prepared for many court appearances in the next ten years in that case.

i'll obviously do it slyly, no one will know i did it :angel: apart from everyone on here who reads my devilish plans :devil:

LLeytonRules
02-18-2007, 06:39 PM
I picked Ivo for the simple fact that he has played better throughout the tournament.He will win.

stebs
02-18-2007, 06:50 PM
Murray.

Following the decline of Hewitt and Nalbandian, I believe Murray is the second best returner in the world after Federer, hence, his record against Roddick.

IMO there are two completely different types of retuner. The 1st serve returner and the 2nd serve returner.

1st serve returner: Gets the bombs back and occasionally can do something with them. Federer is, arguably, the best player at doing this ever. It looks routine when he does it but a large percentage of serves he clips back with ease against big servers would be winners againt lesser returners. Other player good at this include Murray, Ferrer and Davydenko. Despite his 'great returner' tag, Agassi was actually pretty hopeless at this.

2nd serve returner: Attacks the serve. This type of player also excels against second serves and players with weak first serves. Maybe the best in the business right now is Nalbandian, Murray is up there with him and so is Djokovic.

What makes Murray such a great returner is that he is great at both of these meaning he can counteract any type of player and break them, obviously with someone like Karlovic it's a bit different. If you don't get the chances than that's that, nothing you can do about it. What Murray has to do is make sure he attacks any second serve and takes his chances if they come.

rob88hock
02-18-2007, 06:53 PM
murray 6-0 6-1

james_olympicman
02-18-2007, 07:05 PM
I think Murray will win quite easily. Definitely straight sets- I think Murray will be able to read his serve and that is Karlovic beat pretty much. Annoyingly I have British eurosport but not eurosport 2.. so won't be watching.

Deathless Mortal
02-18-2007, 07:07 PM
murray 6-0 6-1

:yeah: Realistic :) :haha: :haha:

ljubicic_
02-18-2007, 07:39 PM
Karlo will bagel him in 2 tiebreaks

nicole_s
02-18-2007, 08:21 PM
7-6 7-6 for murray or karlovic. good luck to karlovic,but it`s not like I will cry if he loses this match because now I know that he could beat becker in davis cup!bastard!:)

Bremen
02-18-2007, 09:41 PM
How did this annoying Muzza nickname get started? Anyway I can't stand the brat so I hope he loses but I'm betting he defeats the doctor.

SwiSha
02-18-2007, 09:41 PM
Ivo 7-6 6-0

LK_22
02-18-2007, 10:20 PM
Murray will handle the doctor.
He needs to avoid sloppy services games though and not get annoyed with having potentially few chances to break

danton
02-18-2007, 10:27 PM
The commentators on Eurosport have verbal Diarrhea - this is going to drive me bonkers if it goes to 3 sets and they carry on saying the same things again and again and again and .......

DrJules
02-18-2007, 10:29 PM
How did this annoying Muzza nickname get started? Anyway I can't stand the brat so I hope he loses but I'm betting he defeats the doctor.

Is Murray any more obnoxious that Roddick or Hewitt. To me they seem similar personalities; aggressive, competative and in your face. Also they are winners and with the exception of Murray been number 1.

scarecrows
02-18-2007, 10:33 PM
The commentators on Eurosport have verbal Diarrhea - this is going to drive me bonkers if it goes to 3 sets and they carry on saying the same things again and again and again and .......

well, it's not like they have much to say, no?

maria87
02-18-2007, 10:37 PM
hope Murray cause he has a better tennis

Mobes
02-18-2007, 10:49 PM
Karlovic is just a joke...a serve and nowt else...pathetic he's even in the top 100 but i guess when a monster serve begins to work you get some wins...he may well beat Andy....if he does its a shame for tennis because he and his ilk is whats wrong with power tennis....

LLeytonRules
02-18-2007, 11:02 PM
I am almost there with my prediction.I said Ivo in straight sets.I thought he was playing too good in this tournament to lose to Murray.

Bremen
02-18-2007, 11:05 PM
Is Murray any more obnoxious that Roddick or Hewitt. To me they seem similar personalities; aggressive, competative and in your face. Also they are winners and with the exception of Murray been number 1.

No I don't think he's any more obnoxious...but I don't like them either!;)

johnnylad
02-19-2007, 12:05 AM
Murray takes set 2 6-4

Tennis Fool
02-19-2007, 12:21 AM
Wait... I thought this match was over :confused:

jayjay
02-19-2007, 12:23 AM
The commentators on Eurosport have verbal Diarrhea - this is going to drive me bonkers if it goes to 3 sets and they carry on saying the same things again and again and again and .......

What he said.

almouchie
02-19-2007, 06:55 AM
everytime i have seen murray play
i have been impressed with his return
its key against karlovic who is having an phenomonal week

Agassi Aces
02-19-2007, 07:11 AM
Well done Andy! A Brilliant performance against a difficult opponent. It is so unlucky as some weeks Karlovic's serve doesn't work- unfortunately at San Jose it didn't stop firing! Roll on Memphis!!!!

The_Nadal_effect
02-19-2007, 07:26 AM
Andy had to win. He wasn't going to lose after pushing A-rod out of the tourno.