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Murray def Roddick, 7-6(8) 6-4

zicofirol
02-18-2007, 03:43 AM
I expected murray to win....

bad 1st serve percentage got him in trouble in the first, especially when serving for the set at 5-4... second set, only lost 6 poinnts on serve, and he got the break he needed...

Raquel
02-18-2007, 03:43 AM
Well done Andy :bounce:

Bremen
02-18-2007, 03:43 AM
Excellent! But please lose tomorrow to Ivo.

gusman890
02-18-2007, 03:44 AM
Ivo For The Title !!!

Yappa
02-18-2007, 03:45 AM
Very solid serving from Murray.

What did he say to Roddick? "I don't want to have a problem." or what was it?

tangerine_dream
02-18-2007, 03:45 AM
The first set was great stuff. The TB was :cuckoo: and then Roddick's game kinda went downhill in the second. Credit to Murray for keeping his head and playing very well. His serve has improved a lot.

Pleeeeeeease beat Ivo tomorrow.

bad gambler
02-18-2007, 03:45 AM
Good job Murray, I'm sure he is looking forward to tomorrow as well. Just get the serves back and he bags back to back titles :yeah:

Bremen
02-18-2007, 03:45 AM
Very solid serving from Murray.

What did he say to Roddick? "I don't want to have a problem." or what was it?

What did he say?

NYCtennisfan
02-18-2007, 03:46 AM
Nothing Roddick could do. He served at a really high % on a super fast court, won most of the points on his first serve, but couldn't win any of the rallies on his second serve. He couldn't win any of the points on Murray's first serve and lost a number of rallies on Murray's 2nd serve.

Hugh Jaas
02-18-2007, 03:46 AM
Great work Murray, you show duck who is boss!!!

Now go on and destroy the Croatian ace machine on sunday!!!

danton
02-18-2007, 03:46 AM
I thought Murray did some wonderful shot making and that's what seemed to be the difference between the two players. Roddick just doesn't have that much skill. That said Roddick serve in the first set was far better - Murrays was only 43%, second set was 68% and the difference was clear.

On Eurosport we had it commentator free - it was wonderful

Hugh Jaas
02-18-2007, 03:47 AM
shame that most Brits will never know of this win..............

Regenbogen
02-18-2007, 03:47 AM
Win the final Murray! :D

Jimnik
02-18-2007, 03:48 AM
That was just awesome - from both players. A very high quality match with some outstanding shots and interchanges. American Andy had his chances but Scottish Andy played the important points to perfection. To me, this sums up the difference between the two:

Roddick's BP conversion: 1/6 (17%)
Murray's BP conversion: 2/4 (50%)

Other than that, there was nothing between these two. Great match. :clap2:

danton
02-18-2007, 03:49 AM
shame that most Brits will never know of this win..............


:confused:

Jimnik
02-18-2007, 03:50 AM
I thought Murray did some wonderful shot making and that's what seemed to be the difference between the two players. Roddick just doesn't have that much skill. That said Roddick serve in the first set was far better - Murrays was only 43%, second set was 68% and the difference was clear.

On Eurosport we had it commentator free - it was wonderful
I loved it. :yeah:
No commentators, no commercial breaks. It was perfect.

Eurosport should do this more often.

Corey Feldman
02-18-2007, 03:50 AM
Expected win from the champ.
shoulda been 6-3 6-4 really, but who cares :)
I'll have the kilt on tomorrow, but the sporran depends on you Muzza!!

jitterbug
02-18-2007, 03:51 AM
The first set was great stuff. The TB was :cuckoo:

I agree :lol: both of them were merrily trading minibreaks... It was rather bizarre.

A Murray in the singles final and J Murray in the doubles! Go Murrays!

EasternWind
02-18-2007, 03:51 AM
Good win for Murray!

Yappa
02-18-2007, 03:53 AM
I wanted Roddick to win, but this might be better for the accomplishment of the great mission. Defeat Karlovic! :lol:

Il Primo Uomo
02-18-2007, 03:54 AM
I guess Duck is still high after his magnificent victory at Kooyong and didn't realised that this victory was fucking useless :tape:

scoobs
02-18-2007, 03:55 AM
Murray played a solid match, a good match - not quite vintage but in the end plenty good enough after a first set that could have gone either way and nearly did several times.

In all fairness, it wasn't a great Roddick performance at all - way off the sort of level he played in Cincy last year. To me he looked tired mentally and certainly his play suggested that - he retreated into his comfort zone of how he likes to play, the bad old Roddick was back tonight, rather than the new Connors version. Not aggressive enough, not picking the right times to approach, not hitting through either on forehand or backhand for a lot of the time. He played like he did 12 months ago and the result was therefore the same :)

Really pleased Murray defended at least his finals points.

I have NO idea what he'll be able to do against the Karlovic serve but it'll be fun finding out.

Not a bad start to the year for the kid, eh? Finals in Doha, R4 Aussie losing in 5 to Nadal, Finals in San Jose.

Corey Feldman
02-18-2007, 03:55 AM
A Murray in the singles final and J Murray in the doubles! Go Murrays!Yep!!
we own san jose!
GSM Scotland

redballoon
02-18-2007, 03:55 AM
Very solid serving from Murray.

What did he say to Roddick? "I don't want to have a problem." or what was it?

"I don't want it to be a problem" to something Roddick said?

scoobs
02-18-2007, 03:56 AM
I'm sure on set point Roddick he played an attempted Murray pass and framed it into the crowd, and I'm sure the Murray pass was going wide.

danton
02-18-2007, 03:56 AM
I loved it. :yeah:
No commentators, no commercial breaks. It was perfect.

Eurosport should do this more often.

I think tomorrow after I've had my beauty sleep i'll email them and let them know how good it was.

What I really want for Wimbledon is on interactive have a commentator off option. No Andrew Castle - wonderful.

scoobs
02-18-2007, 03:58 AM
I don't know what Murray was saying to Roddick but I'm sure Roddick wasn't keen on sticking around to hear it - he gave Murray his due at the net but he wanted to get out of there, not have a heart to heart :)

ChinoRios4Ever
02-18-2007, 03:59 AM
congrats Muzza :bounce:

Jimnik
02-18-2007, 04:00 AM
I'm sure on set point Roddick he played an attempted Murray pass and framed it into the crowd, and I'm sure the Murray pass was going wide.
I wasn't sure about that one. It looked like it was going just out but then it could have swerved back in.

On Murray's form, I couldn't blame Roddick for attempting the volley. Murray had been hitting the lines with all of his passing shots, even on the stretch. It was very, very close.

tangerine_dream
02-18-2007, 04:01 AM
In all fairness, it wasn't a great Roddick performance at all - way off the sort of level he played in Cincy last year. To me he looked tired mentally and certainly his play suggested that - he retreated into his comfort zone of how he likes to play, the bad old Roddick was back tonight, rather than the new Connors version. Not aggressive enough, not picking the right times to approach, not hitting through either on forehand or backhand for a lot of the time. He played like he did 12 months ago and the result was therefore the same
Yes, I agree. He still looks jetlagged from DC and seemed kind of lazy out there, falling back into a few bad habits and made several boneheaded net approaches but at least he fought, or tried to fight. It's not easy to beat a guy who's such a good returner but he did good. Most of the DC players didn't play well at all this week, at least AndyR made it to the semis.

guga2120
02-18-2007, 04:02 AM
With the way Murray returns serve not suprising. Anybody that can deal with that serve can beat him, thats why his record is what it is against, Murray,Hewitt,Agassi, and Federer.

scoobs
02-18-2007, 04:03 AM
I wasn't sure about that one. It looked like it was going just out but then it could have swerved back in.

On Murray's form, I couldn't blame Roddick for attempting the volley. Murray had been hitting the lines with all of his passing shots, even on the stretch. It was very, very close.
Oh I agree - hindsight's a wonderful thing - and we've seen Roddick misjudge balls on crucial points in the past so best to attempt the play. Can't help wondering how it would have looked if he'd left it though...

Hugh Jaas
02-18-2007, 04:05 AM
:confused:

andy rodDICK should now retire he obviously is useless.
Set taken off him by a 230 ranked w/c now a 2-1 losing streak to Andy murray.

Andy murray for the top 10!!

Tennis Fool
02-18-2007, 04:06 AM
Were their respective coaches there?

scoobs
02-18-2007, 04:07 AM
The official H2H is now 3-1 in Murray's favour since Kooyong doesn't count.

El Legenda
02-18-2007, 04:07 AM
expected win by Murray :)

scoobs
02-18-2007, 04:08 AM
Were their respective coaches there?
Gilbert was there, John Roddick was there, Connors was not. I don't think Andy would have played like that in front of Connors.

Maybe he needs to get a Connors cardboard cut-out for the weeks Jimmy can't attend, because when Connors ain't there sometimes it's like the whole Connors thing never happened.

Corey Feldman
02-18-2007, 04:08 AM
I think tomorrow after I've had my beauty sleep i'll email them and let them know how good it was.

What I really want for Wimbledon is on interactive have a commentator off option. No Andrew Castle - wonderful.It was good, but i do like Andy Castle ;)

"I don't want it to be a problem" to something Roddick said?He better not have been a jerk again :fiery: take your loss like a man A-Rod.
really seems not to like the kid does he :p

Allure
02-18-2007, 04:09 AM
andy rodDICK should now retire he obviously is useless.
Set taken off him by a 230 ranked w/c now a 2-1 losing streak to Andy murray.

Andy murray for the top 10!!

I thought it's 3-1. Murray beat Roddick at Wimbledon 06 (?), Sap Open last year and Sap Open this year. Roddick beat him at Cincy last year.

danton
02-18-2007, 04:11 AM
He better not have been a jerk again :fiery: take your loss like a man A-Rod.
really seems not to like the kid does he :p

My thoughts exactly - Murray gets blamed for being a petulant brat but from what I see of Roddick he is worse and older - so what's his excuse.

nobama
02-18-2007, 04:12 AM
Gilbert was there, John Roddick was there, Connors was not. I don't think Andy would have played like that in front of Connors.

Maybe he needs to get a Connors cardboard cut-out for the weeks Jimmy can't attend, because when Connors ain't there sometimes it's like the whole Connors thing never happened.True, but Connors was there for the AO semis and that was a pretty crap match from Roddick.

Corey Feldman
02-18-2007, 04:17 AM
Maybe he needs to get a Connors cardboard cut-out for the weeks Jimmy can't attend, because when Connors ain't there sometimes it's like the whole Connors thing never happened.:haha:
I just saw that image of a cardboard Connors next to John Roddick in the stands, has its own seat.
put a connors voice thing on him that roddick's bro can press after every point he loses "Grind It Out!"

Tennis Fool
02-18-2007, 04:20 AM
Maybe he needs to get a Connors cardboard cut-out for the weeks Jimmy can't attend, because when Connors ain't there sometimes it's like the whole Connors thing never happened.

Haha, maybe we can do voiceover work in the scoring thread for Duck's next tournament.

Example:

0-30 Roddick double faults to get behind.
Cardboard Connors: Move closer to the baseline! Stick to the plan!

Merton
02-18-2007, 04:25 AM
Murray is a bad matchup for Roddick and it was obvious today, even though Andy R. had a high % of first serves he was in trouble on his 2nd serve and he was losing most of the baseline rallies. For Andy M., it is always a good performance to score a win against Andy R. in North America and he has now a good chance to defend his title.

R.Federer
02-18-2007, 05:27 AM
Gilbert was there, John Roddick was there, Connors was not. I don't think Andy would have played like that in front of Connors.

I think that's irrelevant. Andy played very well in the matches against Ancic and Fish in Melbourne, and Connors was not present for both of those. He played poorly in the semis, where Connors had arrived from the US where he had been attending to the death of his mother (and I am mentioning the event because under those circumstances you can be sure roddick was trying his best).

He played quite alright tonight, but this is the problem when he runs into the best returners in the game. Murray really plays a very very good, thinking game and he has tremendous variety.

Clara Bow
02-18-2007, 05:38 AM
Can't wait to see this on the replays on TTC.

Murray is an awesome return of server. Best match you could hope for against Ivo.

Murray is a great smart player and will wim multiple GSs - at least in my mindset. :)

Action Jackson
02-18-2007, 05:41 AM
Never in doubt.

bighun
02-18-2007, 06:37 AM
Andy Murray is a great player. But, I don't think he will ever do better than number 5 in the world. His problem seems to be fitness, which is weird since he is so "lanky" instead of "built". This leads me to believe he has moments where he loses focus. Brad Gilbert is a great coach. Roddick was stupid for leaving him. Murray has the "ugly" shots that Brad used himself to win.(although no slam win) I would like to see him do well in the future, especially at the slams. He reminds me a lot of the kids I coached on a high school tennis team. Apparently, the cool thing in tennis these days with the younger players is to seem indifferent with whaterver happens while playing. I personally disagree. I always teach my students to have a dominant disposition on the court, but never rude. Never let your opponent see you disheveled. Always look like you are in control. Murray at times looks like he could care less if he is winning or not. I am convinced that you win the first few games just by the way you walk on court and warm up. I think Murryay will win because Ivo is not used to being in the final.

LLeytonRules
02-18-2007, 06:50 AM
If u return the duck's serve, he is a lame duck!I despise Roddick and was rooting for Murray.I really feel that Roddick's mentality is taking a toll on him.I can only imagine if Roddick plays Fed a couple of more times.The guy will drown like a duck,lol.

LLeytonRules
02-18-2007, 06:51 AM
Karlovic will beat Murray tomorrow i feel.Ivo has played very well and deserves the title.Go Ivo!!!

decrepitude
02-18-2007, 06:56 AM
If anybody can negate the Karlovic serve on this surface, it is Murray.

sdtoot
02-18-2007, 07:02 AM
Well done Andy M. Ivo will be up against it tomorrow when a good % of his serves come flying back at him!!

DrJules
02-18-2007, 07:03 AM
The first set was great stuff. The TB was :cuckoo: and then Roddick's game kinda went downhill in the second. Credit to Murray for keeping his head and playing very well. His serve has improved a lot.

Pleeeeeeease beat Ivo tomorrow.

Murray usually does well against big servers. He removes their main weapon as shown in this match.

Action Jackson
02-18-2007, 07:10 AM
Murray is a bad matchup for Roddick and it was obvious today, even though Andy R. had a high % of first serves he was in trouble on his 2nd serve and he was losing most of the baseline rallies. For Andy M., it is always a good performance to score a win against Andy R. in North America and he has now a good chance to defend his title.

Stop speaking sense.

DrJules
02-18-2007, 07:18 AM
With the way Murray returns serve not suprising. Anybody that can deal with that serve can beat him, thats why his record is what it is against, Murray,Hewitt,Agassi, and Federer.

Players who return the Roddick serve have achieved the major problem in beating Roddick. All the players you mention move better than Roddick and have better backhands and look more comfortable at the net.

Fedex
02-18-2007, 07:30 AM
Well done Murray, and good luck in the final.

adee-gee
02-18-2007, 07:43 AM
Great job Andy, now finish the job.

Probably one of the few players who can return Karlovic's serve.

Rogiman
02-18-2007, 07:48 AM
Murray's BP conversion: 2/4 (50%)
Just to show you how big Ivo's serve is, watch the best returner in the game (along with Federer maybe) play him tonight and doesn't get anywhere near this kind of satistics on the return.

adee-gee
02-18-2007, 07:49 AM
Props to the ATP website :hatoff:

Defending champion Andy Murray of Scotland beat 2004-05 titlist Andy Roddick for the second straight year in the semifinals of the SAP Open at San Jose Saturday 7-6(8), 6-4.

Murray improved his career mark against Roddick to 3-1. The Scotsman won on the strength of a mini-break on the final point of the first-set tie-break and a break in the fifth game of the second set.

Apemant
02-18-2007, 08:03 AM
Mirkaland, thats one awesome sig you got there. The facial expressions had me :haha:

jazar
02-18-2007, 08:11 AM
damn the stupid duck

stebs
02-18-2007, 09:18 AM
Not a surprising result. Murray has always looked comfortbale against Roddick, he has an excellent return game and he can construct points which is exactly why Roddick can't deal with federer either. Obviously Murray and Federer qare very different but the reasons that they both seem to have Roddick under wraps seems similar.

Murray taking on Ivo will be interesting. People are saying that Murray has a better chance and I suppose he does but as far as first serves go, there is no difference. You have to guess which way to go and if you get it wrong it is an ace.

Langers
02-18-2007, 09:22 AM
Murray played terrific. :yeah:

His serve was great and some of those passing shots were unbelievable. It’s matches like this that lead me to believe that he’ll be a future World No.1. Scintillating game of tennis by Andy.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2007, 09:23 AM
Well done Muzza!!! Please beat the Giant now! :scared:

DrJules
02-18-2007, 09:49 AM
In many ways fits the norm for Roddick; 70% serves of 1st serves in court winning 82% of them and winning 24% of 2nd serves in court. As usual highly dependent on serve. Beyond the serve Murray proves his superiority in all areas except serve and possibly forehand.

Jaap
02-18-2007, 09:49 AM
expected win from Murray. He is a terrible match up for Roddick.

Klaas_nalbandian
02-18-2007, 09:55 AM
good win of andrew but I rather saw a winning Andy

DrJules
02-18-2007, 10:00 AM
Murray played terrific. :yeah:

Her serve was great and some of those passing shots were unbelievable. It’s matches like this that lead me to believe that he’ll be a future World No.1. Scintillating game of tennis by Andy.

Murray's greatest strength is probably his return of serve.

Possibly Murray vs. Juan Martin Del Potro for number 1 in 5 years times after the Federer era?

DrJules
02-18-2007, 10:04 AM
Maybe GeorgeWHitler should send a video of this match to Tomas Berdych.:lol: :lol: :lol:

Langers
02-18-2007, 10:12 AM
Murray's greatest strength is probably his return of serve.

Possibly Murray vs. Juan Martin Del Potro for number 1 in 5 years times after the Federer era?
Is Del Potro that good? I've heard a bit about him recently and pretty much everyone is talking him up. However the last time I saw him was when he lost to the Gooch, perhaps the worst player on tour. :tape:

Action Jackson
02-18-2007, 10:14 AM
Maybe GeorgeWHitler should send a video of this match to Tomas Berdych.:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's not like Berdych would understand the concept, it's not like he is a tactical giant.

oz_boz
02-18-2007, 10:39 AM
The right Andy won. :yeah:

I can't help rooting for Ivo in the final though. :lol:

yakuzaninja
02-18-2007, 10:42 AM
It's a crazy final :lol:

Either Murray doubles his title haul or Ivo serve bombs his way to a title and pisses off tennis's PC brigade.

Lullaby
02-18-2007, 10:58 AM
Great win but he is still not playing as well as he was in australia imo

Cmon muzza brothers

2 titles will be very nice today !

MarcM
02-18-2007, 11:00 AM
Anyone know what was said at the net between them?

I could just hear something like ' I don't want this to be a problem' by Murray.

scoobs
02-18-2007, 11:10 AM
Anyone know what was said at the net between them?

I could just hear something like ' I don't want this to be a problem' by Murray.
Maybe Roddick is a bit of a locker-room bully? :shrug:

Maybe Murray is worried Roddick will give him a wedgie later :devil:

kundalini
02-18-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm sure on set point Roddick he played an attempted Murray pass and framed it into the crowd, and I'm sure the Murray pass was going wide.

Watched it a few times and from the way Murray struck the ball it looked like it was one of those shots that bends back in court at the last minute. It certainly wasn't a straight shot, he hit it with plenty of sidespin. Always the chance it might have missed by an inch but on balance I think Roddick was right to go for it.

On set point at 9-8 Murray's pass actually clips the net and you can see him hold up his hand in apology. Didn't seem to change the direction of the flight of the ball by much and Roddick wasn't really in position to volley anyway otherwise it should have hit some part of his racquet.

The tiebreak was a real shocker from both players and whoever lost the match was bound to think they wasted the chance to win that tiebreak. Double faults, missed first serves, unforced errors; point after point given away.

Why does Roddick approach the net behind nothing shots against a player like Murray? He might miss the odd passing shot but it doesn't take a genius to work out who's going to win the majority of those points. Since Murray wasn't hurting him during the rallies Roddick could have just pounded his forehand instead. No need to take the risk of coming into the net.

A_Skywalker
02-18-2007, 11:12 AM
I didnt believe he has left tank to beat andy , Im glad I didnt bet on that

richie21
02-18-2007, 11:15 AM
very impressive win by Murray.:)

Horatio Caine
02-18-2007, 11:16 AM
Anyone know what was said at the net between them?

I could just hear something like ' I don't want this to be a problem' by Murray.

I don't think you'd want Roddick to be sitting on top of you :tape:

Sandra
02-18-2007, 11:20 AM
Murray :woohoo: Now win the title :bounce:

danton
02-18-2007, 11:48 AM
I don't think you'd want Roddick to be sitting on top of you :tape:

I was looking at his brother in the match and thinking oh dear - if thats what the future holds for Roddick when he stops all the exercise.

That said i'm exactly the same.

User id 7816
02-18-2007, 12:21 PM
Muzza. :)

cobalt60
02-18-2007, 12:45 PM
That was just awesome - from both players. A very high quality match with some outstanding shots and interchanges. American Andy had his chances but Scottish Andy played the important points to perfection. To me, this sums up the difference between the two:

Roddick's BP conversion: 1/6 (17%)
Murray's BP conversion: 2/4 (50%)

Other than that, there was nothing between these two. Great match. :clap2:

Looking forward to watching it at some point:yeah:

Horatio Caine
02-18-2007, 01:05 PM
Murray :woohoo: Now win the title :bounce:

If he doesn't, his record will be fast resembling that of Ancic, Malisse, Volandri... :scared: :bolt:

Raquel
02-18-2007, 01:17 PM
Expected win from the champ.
shoulda been 6-3 6-4 really, but who cares :)
I'll have the kilt on tomorrow, but the sporran depends on you Muzza!!
:lol:

Escude you said yesterday before the match that he would do it. I should never have doubted it really ;)

Sjengster
02-18-2007, 02:30 PM
Muzza. :)

Ah Alma, was it not I who encouraged you to embrace the Haggis back at the end of 2005? A wise decision, methinks. :cool:

superhoops
02-18-2007, 02:33 PM
Decent performance from Andy. his serve was very good when it went in. Out aced Roddick.

tennisrocks123
02-18-2007, 03:03 PM
I hate how Roddick comes to the net on shitty shots. He's not very briliant, nor a reader..lol

The better Andy won last night

hablovah19
02-18-2007, 03:19 PM
:woohoo:

HamburgGirl
02-18-2007, 03:57 PM
Nice but expected win for Murray. He's a bad match-up for Roddick and that's why I'm not surprised about this result. I just hope that he's able to beat Ivo in the final. :unsure:

Horatio Caine
02-18-2007, 04:03 PM
I'll have the kilt on tomorrow, but the sporran depends on you Muzza!!

Hopefully it won't be windy wherever you are :bolt: ;)

Shrinking Violet
02-18-2007, 04:07 PM
Good win for Murray. Pretty much showed that if he's on form then Roddick doesn't have the game to beat him no matter the surface because Andy just neuteralises all of Roddick's main weapons. i thought the court speed would have favoured Roddick but it just didn't.

Well done, Andy. Good luck in the final against Ivo. :yeah:

GlennMirnyi
02-18-2007, 05:01 PM
Roddick is just focusing on the French Open. No big deal.

El Legenda
02-18-2007, 05:47 PM
its time for roddick to hit up the challenger level

BigAlbinoDonky
02-18-2007, 05:59 PM
Roddick needs to start juicing, maybe pump that serve up to 155 or 160.

gusman890
02-18-2007, 06:34 PM
Roddick needs to go for aces again, forget about placement, its power that wins now-a-days ;)

tangerine_dream
02-18-2007, 06:44 PM
Roddick made the semis and performed much better than all the other DC players this week, flying 20 hours to play on mud clay then to play on a slick hardcourt, and people are once again overreacting claiming it'll be the end of Roddick's career? The clowns in this place never change. :lol:

its time for roddick to hit up the challenger level
Sorry but Andy won't be joining Ivan on the Croatian clown tour anytime soon. :kiss:

User id 7816
02-18-2007, 07:38 PM
Ah Alma, was it not I who encouraged you to embrace the Haggis back at the end of 2005? A wise decision, methinks. :cool:

Ah Sjengster, and I know I can always count on you for a wise advice. :p

Gulliver
02-18-2007, 07:42 PM
Roddick made the semis and performed much better than all the other DC players this week, flying 20 hours to play on mud clay then to play on a slick hardcourt, and people are once again overreacting claiming it'll be the end of Roddick's career? The clowns in this place never change. :lol:


Well, to be fair, Canas has just won a title in Brazil after flying to Austria for DC, and Becker went over to Germany and came back to reach the SF, so all 3 have done well.

Action Jackson
02-18-2007, 07:45 PM
Roddick made the semis and performed much better than all the other DC players this week, flying 20 hours to play on mud clay then to play on a slick hardcourt, and people are once again overreacting claiming it'll be the end of Roddick's career? The clowns in this place never change. :lol:

Well done tangerinus you are the best.

Cañas won a title and played Davis Cup. Yes, he had to fly from Linz to Brazil and it's not like that there are many direct connections to Costa do Sauipe. There was even a court change from a fast carpet to clay, indoors to outdoors, but lets forget that :)

Sjengster
02-18-2007, 07:48 PM
That just confirms how well Canas performs on all surfaces; I remember in his first comeback year of 2001 (he's had about three now), he made finals on clay, grass and indoor hard.

nicole_s
02-18-2007, 08:01 PM
[QUOTE=tangerine_dream;4894142]Roddick made the semis and performed much better than all the other DC players this week, flying 20 hours to play on mud clay then to play on a slick hardcourt, and people are once again overreacting claiming it'll be the end of Roddick's career? The clowns in this place never change. :lol: QUOTE]

good point! 1/2 final is not a bad result, you can`t always win.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2007, 08:03 PM
good point! 1/2 final is not a bad result, you can`t always win.

You should know that, being a Croatard :haha:

nicole_s
02-18-2007, 08:10 PM
You should know that, being a Croatard :haha:

sorry,but you are such a jerk! I am a croat and I`m proud of my nationality but I never said that ljubicic is the best or something like that so you have no right to call me a croatard!!

ljubicic_
02-18-2007, 08:12 PM
sorry,but you are such a jerk! I am a croat and I`m proud of my nationality but I never said that ljubicic is the best or something like that so you have no right to call me a croatard!!


:worship:

R.Federer
02-18-2007, 08:13 PM
That just confirms how well Canas performs on all surfaces; I remember in his first comeback year of 2001 (he's had about three now), he made finals on clay, grass and indoor hard.

In that case, it should be required of Canas that he has frequent layoffs.

Horatio Caine
02-18-2007, 08:23 PM
Ljubo sucks

Best words you said all night :worship:

ljubicic_
02-18-2007, 08:27 PM
:lol:

Richard_from_Cal
02-18-2007, 08:52 PM
This is the one (San Jose) that's shown online, right?=8^)...

Good job for Murray. No results on the final yet.
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Amazing that Mr. Murray, in the least-prize-money purse tourney of the week, makes the most waves.

musefanatic
02-18-2007, 09:05 PM
Well done Andy :woohoo: So happy for him :) Good luck against Karlovic, i'll be surprised if there isn't a tiebreak in this :lol: Hopefully he won't have too much trouble with him :)

almouchie
02-18-2007, 09:08 PM
he will soon be beating him 6/3 6/3
I really believe Murray is the one to make the leap to grand slam potential winner sooner than the rest of the younger flock

gasquet may be the more talented, but his attitude is suspect

Bremen
02-18-2007, 09:24 PM
In that case, it should be required of Canas that he has frequent layoffs.

I can't believe they let a doper back on the tour...

richie21
02-18-2007, 09:38 PM
he will soon be beating him 6/3 6/3
I really believe Murray is the one to make the leap to grand slam potential winner sooner than the rest of the younger flock

gasquet may be the more talented, but his attitude is suspect

i would say it's more his fitness(and his power...cf his WTA serves) which is suspect.
Even Murray has probably a much better fitness than Gasquet!!

Action Jackson
02-18-2007, 09:41 PM
I can't believe they let a doper back on the tour...

Obviously you never read his case then?

Horatio Caine
02-18-2007, 09:47 PM
Obviously you never read his case then?

Imagine what that sort of poster will be like if Puerta comes back... :scared:

Bremen
02-18-2007, 09:48 PM
Obviously you never read his case then?

No I didn't....enlighten me.

Action Jackson
02-18-2007, 09:52 PM
No I didn't....enlighten me.

I posted it in the Cañas over Ferrero thread. It's around post 28, the link is there.

Havok
02-18-2007, 10:29 PM
Andy :retard:. I know Murray is an excellent returner of serve, but that 2nd serve % won was disgusting.

Well done to Murray though :yeah:. Solid year this year (should have beaten Nadal at the AO) and a very first chance to defend a title. I just don't ever see him winning a GS (possible finals trips but not a win) nor the #1 rank even when Fed retires. He matches up very well vs Roddick, but it's not the same story when you pit him up against all the young players around him who he'll be battling it out in the near future.

As for the finals, absolutely no preference. I like Murray a WHOLE lot more than Karlovic, but come on Ivo winning a title would be just pure retardation and hilarious.

DrJules
02-18-2007, 10:37 PM
Andy :retard:. I know Murray is an excellent returner of serve, but that 2nd serve % won was disgusting.

Well done to Murray though :yeah:. Solid year this year (should have beaten Nadal at the AO) and a very first chance to defend a title. I just don't ever see him winning a GS (possible finals trips but not a win) nor the #1 rank even when Fed retires. He matches up very well vs Roddick, but it's not the same story when you pit him up against all the young players around him who he'll be battling it out in the near future.

As for the finals, absolutely no preference. I like Murray a WHOLE lot more than Karlovic, but come on Ivo winning a title would be just pure retardation and hilarious.


The match against Nadal was very encouraging. Yes, Roddick plays a style suited to Murray and Murray would expect to win more than 50% of the matches. However, Nadal is a difficult style for Murray, but Murray nearly won. :eek: I expected Nadal to win in straight sets.

Bremen
02-18-2007, 11:01 PM
I posted it in the Cañas over Ferrero thread. It's around post 28, the link is there.

Ok thanks.

sphairistike
02-18-2007, 11:24 PM
WooHoo!

jayjay
02-19-2007, 12:13 AM
Is Del Potro that good?

Yes, he is. Future top 5 for sure, and possibly more.

jayjay
02-19-2007, 12:18 AM
In that case, it should be required of Canas that he has frequent layoffs.

He's already had a significant part of his career taken away by injury, it's just another reflection of his strong mentality to come back yet again. Pure heart.

Jogy
02-19-2007, 09:38 AM
Well done tangerinus you are the best.

Cañas won a title and played Davis Cup. Yes, he had to fly from Linz to Brazil and it's not like that there are many direct connections to Costa do Sauipe. There was even a court change from a fast carpet to clay, indoors to outdoors, but lets forget that :)
Roddick had too court change and had to play live rubber against Czech, Canas a easy dead rubber that Peya gifted when he did not want to try anymore

And I see you GHitler were at your best last week end when you predicted that Berdych smash Roddick on claycourt and then have not got the wanted result when Roddick destroyed him in four sets. Best was when you say "Berdych is not a tactic player" or something like that as excuse to take away credit from Roddick :lol: Did you only know that after match or do we know that before as well? :)