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SapELee
07-26-2012, 10:27 PM
Olympics:

(12)Gilles Simon (FRA) vs Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ)
Lukasz Kubot (POL) vs Grigor Dimitrov (BUL)
Andreas Seppi (ITA) vs Donald Young (USA)
Ivan Dodig (CRO) vs (8)Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG)

bearitone315
07-27-2012, 11:43 PM
I am tempted to pick DY over Seppi, but I won't. Seppi is the type of consistent, hard-working, skilled player that will eventually wear down DY. However, because of the "Jay Berger, real coach, on his side" factor, DY stands a better chance of winning than he has lately. I give him a 35% chance of winning. This week, we see the 180 points from Washington DC coming off and the big slide in DY's ranking.

BAMJ6
07-28-2012, 03:09 AM
I am tempted to pick DY over Seppi, but I won't. Seppi is the type of consistent, hard-working, skilled player that will eventually wear down DY. However, because of the "Jay Berger, real coach, on his side" factor, DY stands a better chance of winning than he has lately. I give him a 35% chance of winning. This week, we see the 180 points from Washington DC coming off and the big slide in DY's ranking.

After the Olympics there prob will be a drop. Just win a match first then worry later. FYI he'd need a SF to fully replace the Washington points, or a QF so it's a minimal drop.

Rob_C
07-28-2012, 08:38 AM
Saw pics of DY at the Olympics. He's back to the Prince frame. The Dunlop experiment should have ended long ago. Hopefully this is the 1st of some positive changes.

As for DY-SJ, Johnson followed up his win over DY by losing to Sock & 1st rd in LA. I think SJ was lucky to draw DY 1st rd cause of the obvious streak related lack of confidence.

DY also lost in straights to Jamie Baker, a career Challenger level player. The loss to SJ doesnt mean he should have gone to college at all. Im pretty sure we wont see SJ making a deep run at the US Open this summer beating seeds like DY did last yr.

Rob_C
07-29-2012, 06:01 AM
Qualies for Toronto up next, unless he pulls out. Its a chance for him to get at least one win, hopfully he can make main draw and win a match there. Thing is, he can easily run into a Russell, Bogomolov type in the qualies and get bounced. At this point Im just hoping for one win, anywhere, to give him a jolt of confidence.

bearitone315
07-29-2012, 06:39 AM
DY will have to play qualies at Toronto and Cincy. Both are two-round draws, i.e., you win two matches to make the MD. I think Toronto will be easier for DY to qualify. He will still have his current ranking when the draw is made, and thus will be seeded. So Q1 will be winnable. Then maybe he will get lucky in Q2. Cincy will be much tougher to qualify.

guichard
07-29-2012, 07:46 AM
Saw pics of DY at the Olympics. He's back to the Prince frame. The Dunlop experiment should have ended long ago. Hopefully this is the 1st of some positive changes.

As for DY-SJ, Johnson followed up his win over DY by losing to Sock & 1st rd in LA. I think SJ was lucky to draw DY 1st rd cause of the obvious streak related lack of confidence.

DY also lost in straights to Jamie Baker, a career Challenger level player. The loss to SJ doesnt mean he should have gone to college at all. Im pretty sure we wont see SJ making a deep run at the US Open this summer beating seeds like DY did last yr.
Yes, he is back with Prince http://www.ajc.com/sports/olympics-bound-donald-young-1481247.html (near the end)

Lazyking
08-06-2012, 09:34 AM
Am I only one who thinks Young will beat Chardy today?

bearitone315
08-06-2012, 04:52 PM
Am I only one who thinks Young will beat Chardy today?

Sorry for commenting late. As I write this the match has already begun and it is 4-3 in the first set. I hope your thoughts are right. DY has a better chance today than he did against Seppi last week. He almost has a fair chance of winning, but I still have to pick Chardy.

bearitone315
08-06-2012, 06:46 PM
Sorry for commenting late. As I write this the match has already begun and it is 4-3 in the first set. I hope your thoughts are right. DY has a better chance today than he did against Seppi last week. He almost has a fair chance of winning, but I still have to pick Chardy.

DY did win the first set 6-3, raising hopes of an end to his epic losing streak. Once he lost the second set 7-6, I figured he would fold as usual when the going gets tough. Bingo. Bagel.

Streak is now 16. Next week, I don't know if he'll plays qualies. If so, he won't qualify. Then Winston-Salem. Then US Open. By then the streak will be 18 or 19. Then back to Challengers. By year end, he'll be ranked 200, more or less. I don't know when (or if) he'll play another ATP match to continue the quest to break Spadea's record. If he languishes in Challengers, I won't be surprised if he retires by the end of 2013.

Rob_C
08-07-2012, 02:15 AM
DY did win the first set 6-3, raising hopes of an end to his epic losing streak. Once he lost the second set 7-6, I figured he would fold as usual when the going gets tough. Bingo. Bagel.

Streak is now 16. Next week, I don't know if he'll plays qualies. If so, he won't qualify. Then Winston-Salem. Then US Open. By then the streak will be 18 or 19. Then back to Challengers. By year end, he'll be ranked 200, more or less. I don't know when (or if) he'll play another ATP match to continue the quest to break Spadea's record. If he languishes in Challengers, I won't be surprised if he retires by the end of 2013.

He'll be able to get DA to the 1st three tourneys after the US Open, then his Bangkok pts fall off. If he doesnt earn any pts between now & then he's gonna plummet in the rankings.

SapELee
08-11-2012, 01:29 AM
Donald snuck into the draw with enough withdrawals, will play a qualifier.

Full draw: http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/422/mds.pdf

SapELee
08-13-2012, 01:43 AM
That qualifier is Jesse Levine.

Lazyking
08-13-2012, 01:47 AM
Another Winnable match. Still won't win though. I got burned once picking him, not again.

I feel bad for DY but if he keeps going like this, he won't be able to break the record at least lol.

bearitone315
08-13-2012, 05:11 AM
Lazyking, at least you have learned from experience. Never pick DY to win. Levine in 3 sets.

Feketepuss
08-13-2012, 08:00 PM
6-4 7-6 (2)...

The streak continues.

Rob_C
08-14-2012, 01:00 AM
Just saw a DY interview from Cinci where he said that Roger Smith is now part of his coaching team. Hopefully he sticks with Smith for awhile, at least until he re-establishes himself on tour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ-X7uMpVJY&feature=bf_prev&list=UUtRsUWSlnmATu1X

SapELee
08-18-2012, 12:41 AM
Leonardo Mayer, first round of Winston-Salem Open.

Full draw: http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6242/mds.pdf

bearitone315
08-20-2012, 04:44 AM
Never pick DY to win. Mayer in 3 sets.

SapELee
08-20-2012, 09:10 PM
Good to see him finally get a win.

Feketepuss
08-23-2012, 05:47 PM
Donald has drawn Federer in round 1 of the US Open!

bearitone315
08-23-2012, 07:02 PM
Donald has a 0% chance of winning, but at least he will be on TV. He will extend his current losing streak to 2. I don't know if he will ever play enough ATP matches to get to 21 again, probably not.

Lazyking
08-23-2012, 07:04 PM
hey maybe he can shock the world.. you never know.

Pistol Pete Fan
08-24-2012, 06:29 AM
"Donald has drawn Federer in round 1 of the US Open!"

Who does he play in the second round?

bearitone315
08-25-2012, 09:23 PM
Fed vs DY has been assigned the prime time Monday night match on Ashe Stadium. I predict Fed won't mess around with DY. 6-1,6-2,6-0. DY collects his 10 points and $23K for showing up.

bearitone315
08-27-2012, 08:11 PM
DY's US Open will not end tonight, and no, I don't think he has any chance of beating Fed. (There is a greater chance of DY being triple bageled than of DY winning.) His 2012 US Open won't end tonight because he got a men's doubles wildcard (Nick Monroe as partner) and a mixed doubles wildcard (Vavara Lepchenko as partner). I know he played with Monroe several times in Challengers. I don't know how the mixed partnership happened. I thought a Sloane Stephens partnership would be more likely.

Pistol Pete Fan
08-28-2012, 05:58 AM
Fed cruises 6-3, 6-2, 6-4.

"There is pressure. Donald played well," Federer said after the match. Federer might be the most gracious person ever to pick up a racket. (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/murray-sharapova-second-round-us-open-012752883--ten.html)

Check out this bad-ass slice overhead by Federer at :16. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8308968) I'm surprised that shot doesn't come with a left-turn signal.

bearitone315
09-21-2012, 02:52 AM
Looks like there were a ton of withdrawals from Bangkok, and DY has a direct entry into the main draw. I hope he steps up his game.

SapELee
09-21-2012, 03:24 AM
Doesn't he have like a lot of points to defend there?

SapELee
09-21-2012, 03:26 AM
^ Yikes, 150 points.

SapELee
09-22-2012, 06:26 PM
(1)Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) bye
(q) vs Robin Haase (NED)
Donald Young (USA) vs Yen-Hsun Lu (TPE)
Tatsuma Ito (JPN) vs (5)Fernando Verdasco (ESP)

Freefall in the ranking continues.

SapELee
09-25-2012, 10:35 PM
Donald Young (USA) d. Yen-Hsun Lu (TPE) 5-7 6-2 7-5, Verdasco next.

bearitone315
09-27-2012, 04:43 PM
DY will lose 130 points from Bangkok. He is now #158 per Live Tennis Rankings. Furthermore, he still has 105 points to defend during the remainder of 2012. If he doesn't defend any, he will drop to around #210 by year end. Let's hope he can win a few matches.

tae04
09-28-2012, 06:53 PM
I would be playing the remaining 5 US Challenger events of the year if I was him. Im sure he could win 2 of them.

I wonder is he done this year or going to realize its time to go back to the Challenger circuit and gain some points.

bearitone315
09-28-2012, 08:32 PM
DY plays Yuki Bhambri tomorrow in the Beijing Qualies. Bhambri has had a good year and has really risen in the rankings. DY will have to play well to win.

He is entered in Shanghai (qualies, wk of 10/8) and Vienna (main draw, wk of 10/15). I guess he will play them. After that, I agree he should play the last three US Challenger - Charlottesville, Knoxville, and Champaign.

bearitone315
09-29-2012, 01:46 PM
DY beat Bhambri rather easily. Now plays Brian Baker for the qualifier spot in Beijing. Interesting matchup!

SapELee
09-29-2012, 02:17 PM
Well at least someone will get through :lol:

SapELee
10-06-2012, 03:29 AM
Donald is in a very tough section of Shanghai Qualifying. He has Sergiy Stakhovsky and then alternate/Matosevic. Honestly, I have a hard time seeing him get through.

Rob_C
10-06-2012, 09:23 AM
DYs battling right now. Just broke back, and then held to go up 2-1 in the 3rd. Would love to see him get another crack at Matosevic to see how things turn out now

bearitone315
10-06-2012, 08:11 PM
When the 70 points fall off in the 10/15/12 rankings, DY will be around 185. Then he has 35 more points to defend in 2012. If he can't defend, his year-end ranking will be around 210.

I think he has to play the 3 US Challengers at the end of this year. However, there's no guarantee he will do well at that level. Those Challenger players will not lack in confidence against DY. Not that there's any bragging rights in beating DY anymore.

bearitone315
10-10-2012, 06:24 AM
DY is entered in the Charlottesville Challenger, where he will encounter old rivals Sweeting, Levine, Russell, Reynolds, etc. He may also face off against young guns Johnson, Klahn, Sock, Williams, Sandgren, Kudla, and Kosakowski. It won't be easy either way.

Pistol Pete Fan
10-14-2012, 01:36 AM
He's already fallen to players both in the older rivals and young guns camp during his 2012 swoon. It is conceivable that any of these guys could knock Donald off.

I think Donald's days as an ATP tour regular are over. He was handed a golden opportunity with his ranking giving him entry into a series of ATP events this year and basically pissed the opportunity away. Even though he's not that old, he's old in tennis years. He hasn't shown the goods to turn around his career in a major way. I would be happy to be proven wrong, but I don't see the ingredients for a career resurgence.

bearitone315
10-15-2012, 03:34 AM
I think Donald's days as an ATP tour regular are over. He was handed a golden opportunity with his ranking giving him entry into a series of ATP events this year and basically pissed the opportunity away. Even though he's not that old, he's old in tennis years. He hasn't shown the goods to turn around his career in a major way. I would be happy to be proven wrong, but I don't see the ingredients for a career resurgence.

Sadly, I agree with you. I'll still follow him, but I would not be surprised if he never gets back into the Top 100, much less be someone who is a title contender. I think it more likely that he quits the game within the next two years.

tae04
10-17-2012, 03:38 PM
Was surprised to see his name in Vienna. I don't think he's quite over yet as in getting back into the top 100. I think if he's relagated to challengers for half of next yr, he'll find his way back into the top 100. Alot easier for him to win 80-100 pts winning challengers.

Pistol Pete Fan
10-17-2012, 06:37 PM
Sadly, I agree with you. I'll still follow him, but I would not be surprised if he never gets back into the Top 100, much less be someone who is a title contender. I think it more likely that he quits the game within the next two years.


Well, Donald beats Fabio (I can't believe it's not butter!) Fognini 7-6(8), 6-3 in Vienna. I take back everything I said. Look out, Federer!

Seriously, a nice result for DY after a difficult year.

Rumor has it he is working with a new coach? That's the kind of change he is going to make if he is going to turn this thing around. If you look at his career, he has wins over players in the top 5 (Murray), 10 (Monfils), 20 (Warwinka, Melzer (ret.)), and 30 (Chela, Lopez). He can play at that level. The frustrating thing is that once he got there, he never figured out how to stay.

SapELee
10-28-2012, 12:42 AM
Charlottesville Challenger

http://tenniseastcoast.com/

http://tenniseastcoast.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/ch12mds.jpg?w=930&h=1245

J99
10-29-2012, 04:49 AM
He has a good chance to at least make the final here.

bearitone315
10-29-2012, 11:29 PM
He has a good chance to at least make the final here.

I think you are being very optimistic. I would be surprised if he made the SF. We shall see.

Pistol Pete Fan
10-30-2012, 05:56 AM
This is Donald. He is just as likely to get upset in the first round as he is to make the finals.

bearitone315
11-01-2012, 06:05 PM
Next week (Knoxville) is apparently DY's season-ending event. If he loses in the first round (quite likely), he will end 2012 ranked in the 190-195 range. Will he stage a comeback in 2013?

In 2012, DY tried to break Spadea's record 21-match ATP losing streak but fell just short. Now he can try for a long Challenger losing streak. It stands at 3 now:

1. Winnetka SF (6/11) - lost to Reynolds
2. Aptos R1 (7/11) - lost to Bogdanovich
3. Charlottesville R1 (10/12) - lost to Lammer

At any rate, I think Challengers will be tough sledding for him, and he will never make it back to the ATP level. He may be out of the game within 2 years.

bearitone315
11-01-2012, 10:22 PM
Next week (Knoxville) is apparently DY's season-ending event.

Correction: He seems to have withdrawn from Knoxville. Season over.