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Karlovic def. Becker 7-6(5), 7-5

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 10:50 PM
Fired 27 aces, for his second ATP final! :yeah: Win this one Ivo! :rocker: :banana: Next is Andy- Murray or Roddick.
C'mon Ivo! :rocker2:

gusman890
02-17-2007, 10:50 PM
OMGGG!! TAKE the TITLE!!! :)

Loftra
02-17-2007, 10:51 PM
:worship:

PoderShileno
02-17-2007, 10:52 PM
Ivo :cool:

Sjengster
02-17-2007, 10:52 PM
Andy had better be on his A-game tomorrow to stand a chance.

Bilbo
02-17-2007, 10:52 PM
just too good for me

credits to him

scarecrows
02-17-2007, 10:53 PM
big Ivo is the man

1 win more for the title :yeah:

Voo de Mar
02-17-2007, 10:53 PM
Ivo :banana:

Jadranka
02-17-2007, 10:53 PM
Well done :devil:

gusman890
02-17-2007, 10:54 PM
and they made it 50% faster (and didnt notice its a blue court, not the all green one like in the past) to help Roddick and the Americans.

WATCH OUT..Ivo is serving Bombs.

*Viva Chile*
02-17-2007, 10:54 PM
27 aces in only 2 sets :eek:

I will laugh to hell if this guy kick ass to any of the Andys with only serve :lol:

scarecrows
02-17-2007, 10:54 PM
although Big Ivo gets less aces than Mistaflava gets bad reps

GWH copyrights

ASP0315
02-17-2007, 10:54 PM
Well Done Ivo. Now take your first career title. :rocker2:

Rogiman
02-17-2007, 10:54 PM
I hope he wins the title now!

Go Ivo!

Black Adam
02-17-2007, 10:55 PM
87 aces in 4 matches :eek: What's the record of aces during a 5 match tournament. I remember Pim Pim firing about 90 aces during his Memphhis win.

Horatio Caine
02-17-2007, 10:55 PM
Well done Ivo!! :yeah: :bigclap: :woohoo: :drink: :banana:

Sjengster
02-17-2007, 10:57 PM
It's probably Goran in one of his smaller tournament wins - most likely in 1996, the year in which he hit a record 1477 aces. But I do remember the frightening serving of the Younger Johansson when he won Memphis in 2004, there was a set he played against either Blake or Fish when he made 100% of his first serves and was hitting bombs every single time. And perhaps not coincidentally, look who Karlo has beaten this week....

Rogiman
02-17-2007, 10:57 PM
I can't believe some people still say his serve is not the best in the game.

It's the best single shot in tennis right now IMO.

dijus
02-17-2007, 10:57 PM
Ivo :hatoff:

scoobs
02-17-2007, 10:57 PM
Looks like they found the perfect court for Ivo. I'm sure they're roundly kicking themselves for it now.

Good for him and all, but unlike last year, the final will be a snorefest.

nanoman
02-17-2007, 10:58 PM
Ivo :rocker2:
Best serve ever ! :bowdown:

Blue Heart24
02-17-2007, 10:59 PM
Ivo :woohoo: :worship: :yeah:

scoobs
02-17-2007, 10:59 PM
*shrug*

How many people actually enjoy watching Karlovic play?

I'm curious.

Rogiman
02-17-2007, 11:00 PM
Looks like they found the perfect court for Ivo. I'm sure they're roundly kicking themselves for it now.

Good for him and all, but unlike last year, the final will be a snorefest.I don't know, I grew up watching all those Wimbly finals where every break of serve was a huge deal, I find it way more exciting the breakathons, I guess different strokes...

yakuzaninja
02-17-2007, 11:00 PM
Looks like they found the perfect court for Ivo. I'm sure they're roundly kicking themselves for it now.

Good for him and all, but unlike last year, the final will be a snorefest.

Not if Murray produces a big match performance tonight.

Karlovic is more likely to win against Roddick imo.

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:00 PM
*shrug*

How many people actually enjoy watching Karlovic play?

I'm curious.

I do :) I like to watch his opponents suffer, and i like to count those aces...

yakuzaninja
02-17-2007, 11:01 PM
*shrug*

How many people actually enjoy watching Karlovic play?

I'm curious.

Me because he's a unique player, just totally unlike any other on tour.

scoobs
02-17-2007, 11:02 PM
I must go back and check how many of the Croatians who were slating him for withdrawing from Davis Cup are now cheering him on to the title.

Apemant
02-17-2007, 11:02 PM
*shrug*

How many people actually enjoy watching Karlovic play?

I'm curious.

Damn, I never actually watched him ... yet.

Anyway, perhaps I won't enjoy it once I see it... but I sure as heck enjoy counting all the aces. Guess all the statistics freaks do. :devil:

BlackButterfly
02-17-2007, 11:03 PM
*ridiculous*

ASP0315
02-17-2007, 11:03 PM
*shrug*

How many people actually enjoy watching Karlovic play?

I'm curious.

Did you enjoy all those rubbish matches at Wimbledon when sampras played in which all you have to is serve, volley and wait for opponents error. No enjoyment all and now you are complaining about ivo. Get a life.

nanoman
02-17-2007, 11:04 PM
*shrug*

How many people actually enjoy watching Karlovic play?

I'm curious.

I don't ! But Karlovic is such an underdog, I can't help but cheer for him. Also, his totally unbalanced game has a certain charm to it.

stebs
02-17-2007, 11:04 PM
Karlovic has a beautiful serve and it fired again of course but today his forehand was pretty good as well. He made very few errors off it and hit quite a few winners.

Voo de Mar
02-17-2007, 11:05 PM
87 aces in 4 matches :eek: What's the record of aces during a 5 match tournament. I remember Pim Pim firing about 90 aces during his Memphhis win.


Ivanisevic served:
- 122 aces in Vienna 1997 (the final - the best of five)
- 107 aces in Zagreb 1998 (the final - the best of three)

scoobs
02-17-2007, 11:05 PM
Did you enjoy all those rubbish matches at Wimbledon when sampras played in which all you have to is serve, volley and wait for opponents error. No enjoyment all and now you are complaining about ivo. Get a life.
Bit defensive, no?

I know - why don't you assume exactly what I did and then knock it down as though it was what I said! Yay for arguing with your own assumptions.


So rude of me to strike a note of dissention in this love-fest -so sorry.

Yappa
02-17-2007, 11:05 PM
You know, unique sounds great and all, but I prefer Santoro-unique than Karlovic-unique, sorry.

Anyways, Karlovic had some great return serve winners (even two fh winners when he broke serve in the 2nd set). He merits the win, but I am soo not looking forward to the final. *sigh*

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:06 PM
Ivanisevic served:
- 122 aces in Vienna 1997 (the final - the best of five)
- 107 aces in Zagreb 1998 (the final - the best of three)

Vienna was best of 5, but maybe Karlovic will be better than Ivanisevic tomorrow. He needs 21 ace, that's easy ;)

Jadranka
02-17-2007, 11:07 PM
again Vienna :angel:

ASP0315
02-17-2007, 11:07 PM
You know, unique sounds great and all, but I prefer Santoro-unique than Karlovic-unique, sorry.

Anyways, Karlovic had some great return serve winners (even two fh winners when he broke serve in the 2nd set). He merits the win, but I am soo not looking forward to the final. *sigh*

I love watching shorter rallied matches. :devil:

ljubicic_
02-17-2007, 11:07 PM
I asked for it in the request forum but nobody answered. Can Ivo have his own forum? He acchieved a lot if you look at some of the players who has his own forum

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:08 PM
Ivanišević and Karlović :angel:

scoobs
02-17-2007, 11:08 PM
Also - comparing Karlovic to Sampras - please :) Don't - my sides.

A close comparison is Ivanisevic - and the answer is, no, I did not enjoy watching Ivanisevic much at all, in spite of everyone's now misty-eyed recollections of him. Even the 2001 final he won was more good for the sheer drama of the occasion than the quality of tennis and serving.

ASP0315
02-17-2007, 11:10 PM
Ivanišević and Karlović :angel:

Yes. Ivo and Goran rules. :rocker2: But first he should defeat another service machine that is roddick.(I don't think Murray will win tonight.)

Black Adam
02-17-2007, 11:10 PM
Ivanisevic served:
- 122 aces in Vienna 1997 (the final - the best of five)
- 107 aces in Zagreb 1998 (the final - the best of three)
Goran also holds the record in a Grand Slam: He fired 213 aces at the Wimbledon tournament 2001. Then 715 aces in the entire year in 44 matches. Apparently the Croatian tennis schools teach excellent serving before anything :yeah: though they could work more on Ground strokes with their students.

Corswandt
02-17-2007, 11:10 PM
and they made it 50% faster (and didnt notice its a blue court, not the all green one like in the past) to help Roddick and the Americans.

Serves them right (no pun intended) if Karlovic takes the title.

stebs
02-17-2007, 11:11 PM
Ivanisevic served:
- 122 aces in Vienna 1997 (the final - the best of five)
- 107 aces in Zagreb 1998 (the final - the best of three)

Funny that in all his ace filled matches this week Ivo hasn't actually made your list of 30 aces in a match. He made 29 against Blake and 27 today.

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:12 PM
Yes. Ivo and Goran rules. :rocker2: But first he should defeat another service machine that is roddick.(I don't think Murray will win tonight.)

Roddick better wins, i have 500$vcash on him :p

Voo de Mar
02-17-2007, 11:13 PM
Ivanišević and Karlović :angel:

Ivanišević served 16 times in his career more than 35 aces! Second in this ranking is Karlović - 8 times :D

scarecrows
02-17-2007, 11:13 PM
Roddick better wins, i have 500$vcash on him :p

I had 5000 on Soderling :(

bigbhoy
02-17-2007, 11:14 PM
Bet the decision to ramp up the court this year will probably come back to haunt them, especially if Roddick loses to Karlovic in the final.

With those bombs coming in especially this week, I doubt if anybody will be able to deal with him in such form. Out of the 2 Andy's, Murray is the far better returner, so would probably have the best chance of doing something against it. Although Roddick is more consistent in the serving department & has a better chance of holding his nerve's against such a consistent server. So it poses a bit of a dilema about who to support in the final.

Probably the best server in the game. Pity the rest of his game's piss poor on the amateur scale. Don't want to say it's a joke for a guy like that to win such a tournamentr, but I'll be hoping that Andy M gets him in the final, or if Andy R gets there. Then I'll be rooting for him instead for the sake of tennis!

ASP0315
02-17-2007, 11:15 PM
Ivanišević served 16 times in his career more than 35 aces! Second in this ranking is Karlović - 8 times :D

Well ivanisevic started his career at 16 years. Karlovic turned pro lately which at 23 years.(in 2003).He to be a basekball player before that.

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:15 PM
I had 5000 on Soderling :(

I saw it :tape: Bad luck... Soderling is a choker :rolleyes:

ljubicic_
02-17-2007, 11:16 PM
Well ivanisevic started his career at 16 years. Karlovic turned pro lately which is 23 years.(in 2003)to be a basekball player before that.


Karlo turned pro in 2000

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:17 PM
Ivanišević served 16 times in his career more than 35 aces! Second in this ranking is Karlović - 8 times :D

Karlovic is still playing :p
But I don't expect him to get the number of 17 matches with 35+ aces...

kobulingam
02-17-2007, 11:18 PM
I can't believe some people still say his serve is not the best in the game.

It's the best single shot in tennis right now IMO.


Right. I'm sure everyone would want Ivo's serve more than Fed's forehand.

Apemant
02-17-2007, 11:18 PM
Ivanišević served 16 times in his career more than 35 aces! Second in this ranking is Karlović - 8 times :D

:eek: :eek: What about PimPim?

Yappa
02-17-2007, 11:18 PM
Since there are Agassi Tennis and Rafa Tennis games, I wonder what Karlovic Tennis would look like. ;)

gogogirl
02-17-2007, 11:18 PM
All,

WTG - IVO. I knew he'd do it. He's improving on his return game. He aced James 29 times over 3 sets.

I have no clue who'll win tomorrow - but it would be nice if Ivo continued on his run and tear.

"GO GENTLE GIANT"

Shrinking Violet
02-17-2007, 11:19 PM
I half hope Karlovic wins the title just to show the tournament organises how stupid it was to speed the court surface up that much to try and appease the American players.

Well done Ivo for getting to the final. It's certainly not his fault that the court isn't exactly conducive to more attractive tennis styles. His game does nothing for me and a final between him and Roddick isn't one that I would probably watch but credit to him and best of luck to him in the final.

Voo de Mar
02-17-2007, 11:19 PM
Karlovic is still playing :p
But I don't expect him to get the number of 17 matches with 35+ aces...

Yes, he plays poorly in the Grand Slam events :(

stebs
02-17-2007, 11:19 PM
Right. I'm sure everyone would want Ivo's serve more than Fed's forehand.

Depends who you are. Nadal would certainly take Ivo's serve as a trade rather than Fed's forehand. Obviously someone like Safin would rather get the Federer forehand.

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:20 PM
Karlovic will improve his ranking :eek: Up to the around #70 :D

scoobs
02-17-2007, 11:21 PM
I don't, and as much as I wanted to see Becker play a match, Karlovic is the main reason I didn't make the effort to drive down to the semis this morning. :) Don't get me wrong, I respect him as a player and unlike a lot of "hataz" on MTF I don't believe he's just a serving machine who can't do anything else, but really, his game doesn't engage me when I watch and I'm far more likely to spend my time being distracted. :lol: There are plenty of serve-dominant players who are entertaining for me to watch, but it's not because of their serve; it's because of their other shots and/or their athleticism.

Perversely though, I'm almost hoping Karlovic wins the tournament just to make everyone go: ":confused: :scratch: :help:" :devil:
*nods*

I know tennis doesn't have to be pretty - I just find it more fun to watch if it is. Some people find huge serving pretty. I don't - I appreciate it as a feat of technical application but it leaves me cold. It's like admiring a car engine. I can appreciate the inherent components and the output but I can't get excited about watching it.

To each their own, I guess.

stebs
02-17-2007, 11:21 PM
I don't, and as much as I wanted to see Becker play a match, Karlovic is the main reason I didn't make the effort to drive down to the semis this morning. :) Don't get me wrong, I respect him as a player and unlike a lot of "hataz" on MTF I don't believe he's just a serving machine who can't do anything else, but really, his game doesn't engage me when I watch and I'm far more likely to spend my time being distracted. :lol: There are plenty of serve-dominant players who are entertaining for me to watch, but it's not because of their serve; it's because of their other shots and/or their athleticism.

Perversely though, I'm almost hoping Karlovic wins the tournament just to make everyone go: ":confused: :scratch: :help:" :devil:

You don't appreciate the fluidity of the Karlovic serve? I admit that there are times when he is frustrating to favour. When someone hits an approach shot to his backhand and his attempted passing shot doesn't even reach net for instance. However, that serve is a perfect motion for a tall guy and his volleys can be nice too.

Still, it's pure opinion and most people agree with you. I just enjoy watching that stroke.

koipond
02-17-2007, 11:22 PM
:bigcry::bigcry:

Rogiman
02-17-2007, 11:22 PM
Right. I'm sure everyone would want Ivo's serve more than Fed's forehand.With all due respect to Fed's forehand, there are many players with great forehands out there (Moya, Blake to name two).

Just imagine what a player with Ivo's serve and OK groundies would be able to achieve...

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:24 PM
Yes, he plays poorly in the Grand Slam events :(

Yeah, too bad for that...

Rogiman
02-17-2007, 11:24 PM
Obviously someone like Safin would rather get the Federer forehand.I don't think so, I think Safin would dominate tennis with a serve like Ivo's.

stebs
02-17-2007, 11:25 PM
With all due respect to Fed's forehand, there are many players with great forehands out there (Moya, Blake to name two).

Just imagine what a player with Ivo's serve and OK groundies would be able to achieve...

If Ivo had a backhand he could be top 20 without even trying. His forehand is a decent stroke but his backhand isn't just a 'quite bad shot' it is a serious hindrance to his game. Hit a tame shot there and he will make an error 4/10, hit back a slice with nothing on it 4/10 and hit a decent shot 2/10. He made one good backhand in the match today. Other than that it was nothing balls and errors.

kobulingam
02-17-2007, 11:25 PM
Depends who you are. Nadal would certainly take Ivo's serve as a trade rather than Fed's forehand. Obviously someone like Safin would rather get the Federer forehand.

Ok. But I wasn't talking trades.

I meant it this way. Say you are building a player from scratch and can choose one of the following:

1) Avg forehand + Ivo's serve
2) Avg serve + Fed's forehand

Voo de Mar
02-17-2007, 11:25 PM
:eek: :eek: What about PimPim?

1) Ivanisevic -16 times more than 35 aces
2) Karlovic - 8 times
3) Arthurs - 7 times
4) Philippoussis - 5 times
5) Pim-Pim & Krajicek - 3 times

ASP0315
02-17-2007, 11:25 PM
I don't, and as much as I wanted to see Becker play a match, Karlovic is the main reason I didn't make the effort to drive down to the semis this morning. :) Don't get me wrong, I respect him as a player and unlike a lot of "hataz" on MTF I don't believe he's just a serving machine who can't do anything else, but really, his game doesn't engage me when I watch and I'm far more likely to spend my time being distracted. :lol: There are plenty of serve-dominant players who are entertaining for me to watch, but it's not because of their serve; it's because of their other shots and/or their athleticism.

Perversely though, I'm almost hoping Karlovic wins the tournament just to see everyone go: ":confused: :scratch: :help:" :devil:

I respect your opinion. But certainly there advantges and disadvantages of each player.
You went to see James Blake vs Karlovic match right. ? How was the crowd during that match. Did they cheer completely for james or did they support Karlovic too. Or did they sleep.?:lol:

Plus would you be going if Andy Roddick reaches the final just to enjoy the servefest of both players.? :haha:

stebs
02-17-2007, 11:26 PM
Ok. But I wasn't talking trades.

I meant it this way. Say you are building a player from scratch and can choose one of the following:

1) Avg forehand + Ivo's serve
2) Avg serve + Fed's forehand

It's still a toss up, depends which type of player you want to be. Each stroke is of equal use.

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:27 PM
Voo do you know about this:
Karlovic-Bracciali, in Wimbledon 2005 i think, first round.
How many aces did Ivo serve? I think it's 55, and it says so on ATP site, but my friend is sure it's 51, what do you know?

stebs
02-17-2007, 11:28 PM
I don't think so, I think Safin would dominate tennis with a serve like Ivo's.

:eek: You really think so. Safin already has a pretty damn good serve. His weakest shot is his forehand by a long way. I think Safin with Fed's forehand would be a better player than Safin with Ivo's serve.

Problem is, you can't imagine a different player having Ivo's serve becuase height is a key factor.

stebs
02-17-2007, 11:28 PM
Voo do you know about this:
Karlovic-Bracciali, in Wimbledon 2005 i think, first round.
How many aces did Ivo serve? I think it's 55, and it says so on ATP site, but my friend is sure it's 51, what do you know?

Wimbledon site says 51. Wikipedia and a few other sources say 55. I trust Wimbledon site.

Voo de Mar
02-17-2007, 11:28 PM
Voo do you know about this:
Karlovic-Bracciali, in Wimbledon 2005 i think, first round.
How many aces did Ivo serve? I think it's 55, and it says so on ATP site, but my friend is sure it's 51, what do you know?

51

Ivo Karlovic nearly got an extra four aces added to the Wimbledon record of 51 he set last week. The chair umpire's scorecard for the first-round match showed Karlovic had 55 aces against Daniele Bracciali.
Postmatch statistics credited Karlovic with 51. Tournament statisticians reviewed a tape of the match and concluded that total was accurate, Wimbledon spokesman Johnny Perkins said.
Karlovic's total of 51 is still a tournament record and ties the ATP Tour record set by Joachim Johansson at this year's Australian Open. — AP

ASP0315
02-17-2007, 11:29 PM
Voo do you know about this:
Karlovic-Bracciali, in Wimbledon 2005 i think, first round.
How many aces did Ivo serve? I think it's 55, and it says so on ATP site, but my friend is sure it's 51, what do you know?

51 aces . Record tied with Joachim Johansson.

Rogiman
02-17-2007, 11:30 PM
Ok. But I wasn't talking trades.

I meant it this way. Say you are building a player from scratch and can choose one of the following:

1) Avg forehand + Ivo's serve
2) Avg serve + Fed's forehandI'd take the 1st.

With all the talking about today's players and how they need to have a well-rounded game, I'd still say a single serious weapon would take you farther than a fine all around game.

A player with Ivo's serve and Roddick's groundies (backhand included), for instance, would win the calender year Grand Slam, as opposed to Roddick with his current pretty damn good serve.

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:30 PM
Than my friend was right :mad: :lol:
But why did i think it was 55 before i saw ATP stats? :scratch:

kobulingam
02-17-2007, 11:32 PM
It's still a toss up, depends which type of player you want to be. Each stroke is of equal use.

The Federer forehand can win a match (by running around backhands if needed). A player could use it as a backup to a serve (1-2 knockout is just as good as an ace). One can use it in rallies to go from defensive to offensive. It can be used with heavy spin, with pace(flat), with angles, etc. - so much variety. One can use it to return a serve back with so much spin and depth that the opponent is already on the defensive. It would be the best shot in tennis (as it is now for Federer).

The Ivo serve can ONLY be used as the first shot of service games (useless after first shot, useless when returning serve). And if the serve has an offday, then what???!?!?!?!?!?!

Rogiman
02-17-2007, 11:33 PM
:eek: You really think so. Safin already has a pretty damn good serve. His weakest shot is his forehand by a long way. I think Safin with Fed's forehand would be a better player than Safin with Ivo's serve.

Problem is, you can't imagine a different player having Ivo's serve becuase height is a key factor.

Today's Safin gets broken very often, and his 2nd serve is bellow-par.

With Ivo's serve Safin would be unbreakable.

Apemant
02-17-2007, 11:33 PM
Problem is, you can't imagine a different player having Ivo's serve becuase height is a key factor.

Just wanted to say that. ;)

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:34 PM
Croatia is a nice tennis country :angel: Tallest guy on the tour, and 3 players reaching the top 10! And when Ljubo and Mario dissapoint us with their bad results, Ivo shows up with a great tourney and saves a week :smoke: :p

Jadranka
02-17-2007, 11:35 PM
and we have the sexiest guys :devil:

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:36 PM
and we have the sexiest guys :devil:

Thanks, but i'm not tennis player :rolleyes: :p

Jadranka
02-17-2007, 11:36 PM
Thanks, but i'm not tennis player :rolleyes: :p

haha :p it's not important :p

DrJules
02-17-2007, 11:37 PM
Oh, no question the serve is nice, but I love me some rallies too. And like I said I don't mind watching serve-dominant players as a rule; it's just that I prefer seeing more variety in matches (for example the Roddick/Querrey match was pretty serve-dominant but I found it far more entertaining because there was more diversity to the points). In fact, I was far more entertained/impressed by Karlovic's volleying in this match than his serving. :)

Wimbledon conditions were significantly slowed to provide the paying public with tennis to watch. Sampras and Ivanisevic only kept the ball in play for around 6 minutes in one final. There is something seriously wrong with the playing conditions in this event; court and balls.

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:37 PM
haha :p it's not important :p

Ok, thanks :) :kiss: :lol:

Jadranka
02-17-2007, 11:37 PM
Ok, thanks :) :kiss: :lol:

:kiss: ;)

Horatio Caine
02-17-2007, 11:38 PM
and we have the sexiest guys :devil:

...and I thought Ljubo played for Croatia :scratch: :devil:

Jadranka
02-17-2007, 11:40 PM
...and I thought Ljubo played for Croatia :scratch: :devil:

lool, what? Ljubo is a good looking man, but he isn't my typ :p

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:40 PM
She's a bit confused, but we all know she meant me when she wrote that :smoke:

Jadranka
02-17-2007, 11:41 PM
She's a bit confused, but we all know she meant me when she wrote that :smoke:

and Mario, Goran, Marin,... :p

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:42 PM
My grandma :hearts: to watch Ancic, and she hates any guy who beats him :devil:

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:43 PM
and Mario, Goran, Marin,... :p

But i'm #1, right? :p

Jadranka
02-17-2007, 11:43 PM
My grandma :hearts: to watch Ancic, and she hates any guy who beats him :devil:

you have to see my mother ... :rolleyes:

Jadranka
02-17-2007, 11:43 PM
But i'm #1, right? :p

:p ok, ok,

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:44 PM
:angel: :kiss:

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:49 PM
What do you think, if Safin defeated Becker, would he defeat Karlovic today?

ASP0315
02-17-2007, 11:53 PM
Wimbledon conditions were significantly slowed to provide the paying public with tennis to watch. Sampras and Ivanisevic only kept the ball in play for around 6 minutes in one final. There is something seriously wrong with the playing conditions in this event; court and balls.

Wimbledon surface is getting slower and slower and slippery every year and favoring baseliners a lot.:lol: I love watching stella matches to be honest.

tangerine_dream
02-17-2007, 11:53 PM
The SAP Open lost quite a bit of interest for me when Blake and Safin went out.

*shrug* How many people actually enjoy watching Karlovic play? I'm curious.
I doubt many do. I think they're just responding to the underdog story.

and they made it 50% faster to help Roddick and the Americans.
Serves them right (no pun intended) if Karlovic takes the title.
I half hope Karlovic wins the title just to show the tournament organises how stupid it was to speed the court surface up that much to try and appease the American players.
To those claiming that the SAP organizers changed the court specificially for "Roddick and the Americans" have any links to show for it? Because I've read nothing of the sort. All I can find is the TD saying that the "players have complained in the past that the court's too slow" so they sped it up this year. By "players" I'm assuming he was also including popular players like Tommy Haas and Lleyton Hewitt (who has always complained about slow fastcourts, even though Hewitt isn't playing this year).

Also, how do you change a court surface to favor a player who's already won the title twice and has often said that he prefers a slow/medium hardcourt? :confused:

Deathless Mortal
02-17-2007, 11:56 PM
No. Marat was already looking a little "frayed" during the Lu match, and I half-expected him to lose to Becker since they were playing fairly early in the afternoon after Safin had his night match. I doubt he would have managed a win against Karlovic but I do think that he would have put up a better fight than Becker did.

After Ivo's win over Fish, people were talking here that Safin will pull him out. And some people were saying after Marat pulled out, that he tank..

ASP0315
02-17-2007, 11:57 PM
What do you think, if Safin defeated Becker, would he defeat Karlovic today?

Good question.:lol: Would the "out of form" Safin beat Karlo?:lol:
i would given karlo the edge anyway considering the superfast Indoor conditions.:lol:

Loftra
02-18-2007, 12:17 AM
*shrug*

How many people actually enjoy watching Karlovic play?

I'm curious.

I do

ASP0315
02-18-2007, 12:19 AM
I do

me too. :) i even like watching Chris Guccione too.

wally1
02-18-2007, 12:19 AM
I'm probably in a small minority but I enjoyed watching this match. Karlovic's forehand is a serious weapon and he volleyed well too.

Loftra
02-18-2007, 12:28 AM
Voo do you know about this:
Karlovic-Bracciali, in Wimbledon 2005 i think, first round.
How many aces did Ivo serve? I think it's 55, and it says so on ATP site, but my friend is sure it's 51, what do you know?

it's 51. braccialli served 31. ivo holds the record of number of aces in one match together with pim pim (vs agassi in AO 2005). The record of most aces in a match is split between this karlovic - braccialli match and the pim pim(38) - lopez(34) match in AO2005.

ASP0315
02-18-2007, 12:30 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=2769634

Karlovic on to SAP finals, looking for first ATP winAssociated Press


SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Ivo Karlovic rode a wave of aces to a 7-6 (5), 7-5 semifinal win Saturday over Benjamin Becker at the SAP Open, where the 6-foot-10 Croatian is looking for his first ATP title.

Big serves continued to be the key for the unseeded Karlovic, who also knocked out seeded Americans James Blake and Mardy Fish. He served 27 aces against Germany's Becker, who could do little more than guess at the direction of many of Karlovic's first and second serves.

Karlovic will face the winner of the second semifinal between American Andy Roddick and Englishman Andy Murray.

For most of the match, Becker was stuck in between two worlds with his return game -- neither of them pretty. When he stood far behind the baseline to return serve, Karlovic would spin in a 109-mph off-speed serve to pull him wide. If Becker dared to creep in and take the ball early, Karlovic would boom a serve up the middle, often topping 140 mph.

Becker's only breakpoint chance came in the first game of the match, but Karlovic quickly swept the opportunity aside.

Karlovic was the weaker of the two players from the baseline, so he tried to shorten the points by following his big serve to the net behind low slicing backhand approach shots.

There were no service breaks in the first set, and the tiebreaker was close as well until Karlovic hit a forehand winner for the first and crucial mini-break. Karlovic threw in a 141-mph ace to close out the set.

It was more of the same service dominance for both players in the second set. The lone break came at 5-5, when Becker fell behind 0-30 and Karlovic found a rhythm on his forehand returns.

Karlovic clenched his fists and gave a quick shout to the indoor ceiling as he won the final point to close out the match.

Karlovic has lost only one service game so far in the tournament.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press

gusman890
02-18-2007, 12:33 AM
I acually like watching Ivo play, ive had the joy of watching him in person :)

I wish him the best of luck tomorrow.

Voo de Mar
02-18-2007, 12:36 AM
it's 51. braccialli served 31. ivo holds the record of number of aces in one match together with pim pim (vs agassi in AO 2005). The record of most aces in a match is split between this karlovic - braccialli match and the pim pim(38) - lopez(34) match in AO2005.

:cool:
82 aces in all: Kuerten (47) - Nestor (35) Davis Cup '03 match.

njnetswill
02-18-2007, 12:39 AM
I don't enjoy watching big servers play, but I am rooting for Ivo since he is the underdog. I'd rather see Big Serve Karlovic win than Big Serve Roddick.

ChinoRios4Ever
02-18-2007, 12:56 AM
27 aces in 2 sets??? :eek:

Dr. Ivo :worship:

Voo de Mar
02-18-2007, 12:56 AM
I'm not sure but probably 27 aces in two sets is the third best result overall:

31 aces: Ivanisevic def. Novak 7-6 7-6 (Split 1998)... (2.21 per game)
28 aces: Philippoussis def. Roux 6-4 6-4 (Paris 1996)... (2.80)
27 aces: Karlovic def. Zib 7-6 6-4 (Indian Wells 2006)... (2.25)
27 aces: Karlovic def. Becker 7-6 7-5 (San Jose 2007)... (2.07)

gusman890
02-18-2007, 01:43 AM
2 aces a game is incredable.

give or take it would be 1 in game and 3 in others plus the tie break and all.

GL TOMORROW!!

LocoPorElTenis
02-18-2007, 03:00 AM
A player with Ivo's serve and Roddick's groundies (backhand included), for instance, would win the calender year Grand Slam, as opposed to Roddick with his current pretty damn good serve.

:retard:

If Ivo's serve can make such a huge difference, explain why Ivo himself is nothing more than a journeyman ranked about 100 in the world.

To win a calendar Grand Slam you need to have a complete game. Roddick with Ivo's serve might win Wimbledon and the US Open, and even then Fed would probably defeat him.

Guess what? Having a great serve won't help you break your opponent. Serve is crucial in tennis, but you're way overplaying its importance.

jazar
02-18-2007, 09:21 AM
unlucky benny.

this will now be the only time i ever root for ivo. come on ivo you can beat murray, all you need is a couple of tiebreaks

ae wowww
02-18-2007, 09:25 AM
One more, big lad, come on!!!!!!!!

Rogiman
02-18-2007, 09:26 AM
:retard:

If Ivo's serve can make such a huge difference, explain why Ivo himself is nothing more than a journeyman ranked about 100 in the world.
That's because he has the groundies of an amateur :retard:

With merely mediocre groundies like Roddick's he would be both unbreakable and capable of breaking just enough to win.

Even on clay the guy's serve has a huge effect.

ae wowww
02-18-2007, 09:27 AM
Asked what his second best shot is: “After the serve I don’t need any.”

:D:D:D What a lad

myggen
02-18-2007, 09:37 AM
That's because he has the groundies of an amateur :retard:

With merely mediocre groundies like Roddick's he would be both unbreakable and capable of breaking just enough to win.

Even on clay the guy's serve has a huge effect.

If you compare Karlovic of today with Karlovic of two years ago, you will find that he has improved a LOT from the baseline. He looks much quicker now and was actually returning well against Becker. But if it's enough to beat Murray is a different story...

stebs
02-18-2007, 10:20 AM
That's because he has the groundies of an amateur :retard:

With merely mediocre groundies like Roddick's he would be both unbreakable and capable of breaking just enough to win.

Even on clay the guy's serve has a huge effect.

Karlovic doesn't have the worst forehand of the top 100. His forehand is an average shot, no worse. Problem is a frighteningly bad backhand.

DrJules
02-18-2007, 11:22 PM
:retard:

If Ivo's serve can make such a huge difference, explain why Ivo himself is nothing more than a journeyman ranked about 100 in the world.

To win a calendar Grand Slam you need to have a complete game. Roddick with Ivo's serve might win Wimbledon and the US Open, and even then Fed would probably defeat him.

Guess what? Having a great serve won't help you break your opponent. Serve is crucial in tennis, but you're way overplaying its importance.

Until injury problems in the 2nd half of 2006, Ivo was moving into the top 50 and in May 2006 did enter the top 50.

2moretogo
02-19-2007, 01:45 AM
This thread is funny!