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Under Connors, Will Roddick Finally Reach the Final 16 of the French Open This Year?

Jaffas85
02-16-2007, 12:19 PM
After the way he conducted himself in the first tie of the Davis Cup on Clay by way of beating a better clay court player such as Berdych do you think that under Connors Roddick will finally have a solid Clay court season and could finally reach the 4th round of the French Open for the first time in his career?

Thanks.

scarecrows
02-16-2007, 12:32 PM
normally no, but all depends on the draw

Kolya
02-16-2007, 12:33 PM
Probably not... he doesn't have the patience to rally.

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 12:33 PM
No, though if he got Ginepri in R1, that would make a good start, some qualifier in R2 and then Malisse in R3, then he is there.

Fergie
02-16-2007, 01:14 PM
No :lol:

sondraj06
02-16-2007, 01:16 PM
I think he can. I think a lot of people underestimate him and his tennis lately.

zicofirol
02-16-2007, 01:49 PM
depends on who he plays, but probably not...

Fumus
02-16-2007, 01:54 PM
Listen to this shit. With the right draw almost any top player can reach the round of 16 or semis. Look at Ivan and Tim Henman. Well actually I thought Henman played awesome that year and if he didn't have one his classic mental lapses could have taken down even Coria. Roddick could easily make the round 16, or semis...he's good enough. It's just that every year he gets a shitastic draw, well last year he was injured but even if he did win it wouldn't have mattered look at his next couple of opponents. He's not good enough to beat clay specialists but he's good enough to beat many of the top players on any surface any day.

johnnylad
02-16-2007, 01:54 PM
No :haha:

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 01:57 PM
Mutis, Arthurs and Sargsian are crap draws on clay are they?

Ivanatis
02-16-2007, 02:03 PM
I tend to say no, 3rd round should be quite realistic.

Fumus
02-16-2007, 02:04 PM
Mutis, Arthurs and Sargsian are crap draws on clay are they?

ya ya ya...ya ya ya...look at his opponents after those guys....my whole argument was that if he had won...it wouldn't have mattered.

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 02:06 PM
ya ya ya...ya ya ya...look at his opponents after those guys....my whole argument was that if he had won...it wouldn't have mattered.

Not good enough. If my father was my mother, then he wouldn't have been my father.

He has not had very hard draws at RG and go back to when he beat Chang and was giving Hewitt plenty to think about before he cramped up. If he plays like that, then perhaps, but he hasn't improved on clay from those days.

Fumus
02-16-2007, 02:12 PM
Not good enough. If my father was my mother, then he wouldn't have been my father.

He has not had very hard draws at RG and go back to when he beat Chang and was giving Hewitt plenty to think about before he cramped up. If he plays like that, then perhaps, but he hasn't improved on clay from those days.

Yea but, the next couple matches would have been acasuso, massu, peurta, etc in the next couple rounds that's not an easy draw. You are saying he lost easy matches, but an easy draw he has not had.

Yea I mean he has played well on clay before...I just think he could go deep in the tourney but it would all depend on the draw.

Adler
02-16-2007, 02:20 PM
Guccione R1, Arthurs R2 and Kevin Kim in R3... there you go :) But the last two won't go as far I'm afraid

Macbrother
02-16-2007, 02:27 PM
With the right draw of course it is possible.. lesser players on clay have gotten farther. Just don't put money on it.:p

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 02:32 PM
Guccione R1, Arthurs R2 and Kevin Kim in R3... there you go :) But the last two won't go as far I'm afraid

Guccione can move on clay, no he needs to play Ginepri. Roddick could win 2, 2 and 2 and play crap.

johnnylad
02-16-2007, 02:33 PM
By R3 he would have to play a top 32 player or someone who had beaten a TOp 32 player.

Arthurs and Kim?

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 02:33 PM
Yea but, the next couple matches would have been acasuso, massu, peurta, etc in the next couple rounds that's not an easy draw. You are saying he lost easy matches, but an easy draw he has not had.

Yea I mean he has played well on clay before...I just think he could go deep in the tourney but it would all depend on the draw.

Acasuso coming back from injury and hardly won a match that whole year, yet was still good enough to defeat him.

He wasn't good enough to meet these players, therefore it wasn't a hard draw cause he couldn't get past Mutis, Arthurs and the Sarge. Last year is forgiven cause of the injury.

Pea
02-16-2007, 02:40 PM
Lolz

Jimnik
02-16-2007, 02:52 PM
Andy's problem is mental. He has serious problems closing out matches on clay. 2005 was a classic example when just about every clay match he lost was from a winning position.

Hopefully, Connors has given him enough confidence by now to close out these matches.

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 02:53 PM
Connors was a clay guru with the best of them.

*Viva Chile*
02-16-2007, 02:55 PM
If he have a cakewalk draw like the one that Ljubo had last year, maybe... who knows...

But at my first though... I vote NO :lol:

Fumus
02-16-2007, 02:58 PM
Connors was a clay guru with the best of them.

More so than Gilbert was anyways.

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 02:59 PM
More so than Gilbert was anyways.

They won exactly the same amount of titles on red clay.

Fumus
02-16-2007, 03:00 PM
They won exactly the same amount of titles on red clay.

Oh yea, I remember Connors not playing the French the year that he could have won it...also the same year he beat the supposed best player in the world on clay...:D

GlennMirnyi
02-16-2007, 03:02 PM
Guccione R1, Arthurs R2 and Kevin Kim in R3... there you go :) But the last two won't go as far I'm afraid

Wrong. Guccione can move on clay and Arthurs already made some roasted duck in RG.

He needs a draw with Ginepri, Julio Silva, Malisse.

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 03:04 PM
Oh yea, I remember Connors not playing the French the year that he could have won it...also the same year he beat the supposed best player in the world on clay...:D

His fault that he didn't play and no one elses. What did Connors do after 1974 on clay, yes that is right virtually nothing.

Connors did win a title cause the final wasn't played, but Roddick would need a very easy draw to book his accomodation for the second week in Paris.

sondraj06
02-16-2007, 03:05 PM
Listen to this shit. With the right draw almost any top player can reach the round of 16 or semis. Look at Ivan and Tim Henman. Well actually I thought Henman played awesome that year and if he didn't have one his classic mental lapses could have taken down even Coria. Roddick could easily make the round 16, or semis...he's good enough. It's just that every year he gets a shitastic draw, well last year he was injured but even if he did win it wouldn't have mattered look at his next couple of opponents. He's not good enough to beat clay specialists but he's good enough to beat many of the top players on any surface any day.

Yeah but I thought being the best was beating the best, I don't get off on complaining about people having shitty draws. Nothing is a shitty draw really, if you get taken out it's because they were better than you, not because of your draw. when people get to the finals it's because they know they've beaten the best to get there and they deserve it, and should feel proud. So I never get the talk about crap draws.:)

GlennMirnyi
02-16-2007, 03:07 PM
Yeah but I thought being the best was beating the best, I don't get off on complaining about people having shitty draws. Nothing is a shitty draw really, if you get taken out it's because they were better than you, not because of your draw. when people get to the finals it's because they know they've beaten the best to get there and they deserve it, and should feel proud. So I never get the talk about crap draws.:)

Obviously, as you are a rafatard and you'd contradict yourself talking about cakewalk draws when Nadal had the ultimate cakewalk draw in Wimbledon.

sondraj06
02-16-2007, 03:12 PM
Obviously, as you are a rafatard and you'd contradict yourself talking about cakewalk draws when Nadal had the ultimate cakewalk draw in Wimbledon.


I don't care, did I bring up rafa :boxing: your the fan.:clap2:

GlennMirnyi
02-16-2007, 03:16 PM
I don't care, did I bring up rafa :boxing: your the fan.:clap2:

I couldn't miss the opportunity of exposing a weak flank in a Rafatard's argument.

buzz
02-16-2007, 03:17 PM
Yeah but I thought being the best was beating the best, I don't get off on complaining about people having shitty draws. Nothing is a shitty draw really, if you get taken out it's because they were better than you, not because of your draw. when people get to the finals it's because they know they've beaten the best to get there and they deserve it, and should feel proud. So I never get the talk about crap draws.:)

a crap draw can happen, It's all about match-ups:angel:

sondraj06
02-16-2007, 03:19 PM
I couldn't miss the opportunity of exposing a weak flank in a Rafatard's argument.

sweetheart I never brought up rafa, and I don't think I've ever discussed his wimbeldon draw ever. I reframe from arguing with fedtards and rafa haters about his tennis, don't really think it's even neccessary...my favorite players um...oh yeah, no. 2 in the world...your favorite player um...:confused::) hahahaha

GlennMirnyi
02-16-2007, 03:21 PM
sweetheart I never brought up rafa, and I don't think I've ever discussed his wimbeldon draw ever. I reframe from arguing with fedtards and rafa haters about his tennis, don't really think it's even neccessary...my favorite players no 2 in the world...your favorite player...:confused::) hahahah

I'll teach you something: go to atptennis.com and go to "rankings". Look at the #1s there and you'll have a surprise. :dance:

sondraj06
02-16-2007, 03:25 PM
I'll teach you something: go to atptennis.com and go to "rankings". Look at the #1s there and you'll have a surprise. :dance:

listen I'll throw you a bone, I'm a little lazy,do it for me.. and i'll give you this one. :cool:

Apemant
02-16-2007, 03:26 PM
when people get to the finals it's because they know they've beaten the best to get there and they deserve it, and should feel proud. So I never get the talk about crap draws.:)

Does this hold true only for finals or also semifinals?

If you see why I ask. No names mentioned. :devil:

GlennMirnyi
02-16-2007, 03:26 PM
Doubles #1 = Max.

Better to be a doubles #1 than never being a #1 at all. :D

sondraj06
02-16-2007, 03:27 PM
Does this hold true only for finals or also semifinals?

If you see why I ask. No names mentioned. :devil:

O.K now you have to throw me a bone...i'm lost

Jlee
02-16-2007, 04:18 PM
With the right draw he's definitely capable of making it that far. His game actually isn't that bad for clay, he just has mental problems on it.

Maybe the DC match will help. :shrug: We'll see...

Jaap
02-16-2007, 04:27 PM
Pointless comparing him and Henman as Henman was far better on clay than Roddick will ever be.

Allure
02-16-2007, 05:13 PM
I think third round is a stretch. But we'll see.:p

guga2120
02-16-2007, 05:19 PM
Obviously, as you are a rafatard and you'd contradict yourself talking about cakewalk draws when Nadal had the ultimate cakewalk draw in Wimbledon.

your so obsessed.

GlennMirnyi
02-16-2007, 07:38 PM
your so obsessed.

:dance:

jazar
02-16-2007, 07:53 PM
if he gets an easy draw then yes, if he doesnt then no

Johnny Groove
02-16-2007, 08:04 PM
u do know this is RODDICK we're talking about right? and CLAY?

Andre'sNo1Fan
02-16-2007, 09:00 PM
:rolleyes: Nice to see Glenn talking and obsessing over Rafa again (I can see the secret love Glenn has for him)

As for the original question, well yeh, if Ljubicic can get to a RG semi, then there is a chance about anyone in the top 50 can, with an easy draw Roddick can do it.

Dancing Hero
02-16-2007, 09:00 PM
Depends to some degree on the draw, but all things considered, Roddick will do well to reach the last 16 at RG.

GlennMirnyi
02-16-2007, 09:02 PM
:rolleyes: Nice to see Glenn talking and obsessing over Rafa again (I can see the secret love Glenn has for him)

As for the original question, well yeh, if Ljubicic can get to a RG semi, then there is a chance about anyone in the top 50 can, with an easy draw Roddick can do it.

On clay, Ljubicic >>>> Roddick.

El Legenda
02-16-2007, 09:07 PM
:rolleyes: Nice to see Glenn talking and obsessing over Rafa again (I can see the secret love Glenn has for him)

As for the original question, well yeh, if Ljubicic can get to a RG semi, then there is a chance about anyone in the top 50 can, with an easy draw Roddick can do it.

Ljubicic was 15-5 on clay last year and Roddick was 5-5
Ivan likes clay.
Ljubicic played Juan Monaco and 2 more claycourters at RS, roddick would probably lose to all 3.

AnnaK_4ever
02-16-2007, 10:09 PM
I won't be surprised if Andy reaches the semis in Paris. Though he may lose in the first round as well.

Fedex
02-16-2007, 11:35 PM
Just the 4th round? Are you kidding me? The Roddick bandwagon is fast picking up steam, and anything short of a title would be a dissapointment of epic proportions.

guilleakd
02-16-2007, 11:55 PM
very difficult for him... there are a lot of specialist in clay that can beat him in paris... a lot of argentines or spanish out of the 32 seeds that can beat him

sdtoot
02-17-2007, 12:05 AM
Can't see him getting to last 16 unless he gets a very favourable draw. His mind will be on grass for the following weeks!

Luka Matic
02-17-2007, 12:06 AM
YES!!! Oh what a heck, he will win it :p

Action Jackson
02-18-2007, 10:21 AM
Just the 4th round? Are you kidding me? The Roddick bandwagon is fast picking up steam, and anything short of a title would be a dissapointment of epic proportions.

Roddick is going to prove the below joke to be obsolete.

Q; What do you call an American man in the 2nd week of the Roland Garros singles?

A: A tourist.

yakuzaninja
02-18-2007, 10:33 AM
Roddick is going to prove the below joke to be obsolete.

Q; What do you call an American man in the 2nd week of the Roland Garros singles?



Michael Russell :)

Action Jackson
02-18-2007, 10:49 AM
Michael Russell :)

Oh! wow I forgot about him.

Fedex
02-19-2007, 04:22 AM
Q; What do you call an American man in the 2nd week of the Roland Garros singles?

A: A tourist.
:lol:

Fedex
02-19-2007, 04:26 AM
And anyway, since when does Connors make such a big impact on how Roddick performs on clay? He wasn't exactly a clay court specialist.

almouchie
02-19-2007, 06:31 AM
i cant see roddick ever advance to the ssecond week of RG
he might still
i just want to see what aspects of his game if any he can improve
he turns average, when his serve dips

trixtah
02-19-2007, 06:48 AM
u do know this is RODDICK we're talking about right? and CLAY?

this poll is now: do you think Roddick will get a favorable draw? Yes or no ;)