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Ivo Karlovic beats James Blake 6-7(4), 7-6(11), 6-4

Snowwy
02-16-2007, 03:40 AM
Great match, nice to see it go 3 sets.

Ivo served amazingly with 29 aces. In the 2nd set TB he won 3 straight points with aces and I believe 5 of his 13 points were on aces.

Funny thing is that Ivo only won 26 points on Blake's serve over 3 sets.

RickDaStick
02-16-2007, 03:40 AM
I called this one. nice job karlo. blake is a fraud

TheBoiledEgg
02-16-2007, 03:41 AM
:rolls:
getting broken by Ivo :haha:

top 5 my ass :tape:

Ivo :bigclap:

Deboogle!.
02-16-2007, 03:41 AM
what a choke, James. :help:

Snowwy
02-16-2007, 03:41 AM
Blake was broken for the match too, it was 5-4* Ivo.

Johnny Groove
02-16-2007, 03:43 AM
ok, does everyone on tour suck now? :o

Maxpowers
02-16-2007, 03:43 AM
That's insane. Karlovic can't even play tennis. All he can do is serve. How could James lose to him?

Who will win between Fish and Karlovic?

Yappa
02-16-2007, 03:43 AM
Blake was serving for the match and and had a 30:0 lead in that game.

El Legenda
02-16-2007, 03:43 AM
Blake sucks...worst player in top 10 by a mile and half

Vamos IVO!

Yappa
02-16-2007, 03:43 AM
That's insane. Karlovic can't even play tennis. All he can do is serve. How could James lose to him?

Who will win between Fish and Karlovic?

It'll be serve hel...heaven.

ASP0315
02-16-2007, 03:44 AM
Well Done Ivo the best match he ever played in his career. :yeah:

James served for the match at 5-3 in the second set and was 30-0 but ivo won 4 straight points to break James. :rocker2: Plus he also had 5 match points(one of them was on his serve.)
Nice fighting ivo. :rocker2:

El Legenda
02-16-2007, 03:44 AM
ok, does everyone on tour suck now? :o

yes, all but Roger :lol:

+alonso
02-16-2007, 03:44 AM
:eek:

How many MPs did Blake get in 2nd TB?

selyoink
02-16-2007, 03:44 AM
Blake is a compulsive choker.

Yappa
02-16-2007, 03:45 AM
:eek:

How many MPs did Blake get in 2nd TB?

four

Alonsofz
02-16-2007, 03:45 AM
Ivo :worship:

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 03:46 AM
Never in doubt.

Johnny Groove
02-16-2007, 03:47 AM
Never in doubt.

Expected win

RickDaStick
02-16-2007, 03:48 AM
Karlo will win

:worship:

Yappa
02-16-2007, 03:50 AM
Even five mps? Must have missed one then.

El Legenda
02-16-2007, 03:52 AM
:lol: Karlovic won 8pts on return in that 2nd set...4 in the game blake served for the match :rolls:

nobama
02-16-2007, 03:53 AM
James :tape: :help:

Jlee
02-16-2007, 03:55 AM
I expected it to be a struggle, especially with the way everyone's been talking about how fast the court is. Breaking Karlovic is hard on any surface.

Not happy to hear he choked though...

ASP0315
02-16-2007, 03:59 AM
:lol: Karlovic won 8pts on return in that 2nd set...4 in the game blake served for the match :rolls:

:haha: :haha: now some those punks in this forum who commented that Karlovic is a shit returner. Karlovic sucessufully proved that he can be a great returner. :yeah: Vamos Ivo don't stop here take the title.:rocker2: Shut these haters up.

Snowwy
02-16-2007, 03:59 AM
29 aces for Ivo.

Langers
02-16-2007, 04:01 AM
Wow what a terrible, terrible loss by James Blake.

How the heck did he lose to Karlovic? Not good enough.

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 04:01 AM
:haha: :haha: now some those punks in this forum who commented that Karlovic is a shit returner. Karlovic sucessufully proved that he can be a great returner. :yeah: Vamos Ivo don't stop here take the title.:rocker2: Shut these haters up.

You don't prove you are a good returner in one match. If Ivo had any sort of consistency in his returns ie getting them into play, then he would be top 40 easily with that serve.

cobalt60
02-16-2007, 04:01 AM
what a choke, James. :help:

It is becoming an modus operandi these days. Or opus moderandi. Take your pick if you can figure it out;)

ASP0315
02-16-2007, 04:06 AM
You don't prove you are a good returner in one match. If Ivo had any sort of consistency in his returns ie getting them into play, then he would be top 40 easily with that serve.

George read the post properly. I said he "can" i did not say he "is"

He would have been in top 20 by now if he hadn't picked up his injury at Queens.(he was 45 in the world with a a lot of good results on claycourt) when bad luck happened.) Now he is coming back from his injury and get back into top 50. :) He will be you wait and see. :)

Plus do you remember his matches against davydenko and haas last year. :lol:

tangerine_dream
02-16-2007, 04:18 AM
*sigh* James. Superfast courts just aren't your thing.http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/sarge/Disappointed_anim.gif

Corey Feldman
02-16-2007, 04:19 AM
Dr Ivo :yeah:

oscar_2424
02-16-2007, 04:19 AM
Excellent victory for Ivo!, it was a really difficult match.

Deboogle!.
02-16-2007, 04:20 AM
*sigh* James. Superfast courts just aren't your thing.http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/sarge/Disappointed_anim.gifSince when? :scratch:

ASP0315
02-16-2007, 04:20 AM
*sigh* James. Superfast courts just aren't your thing.http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/sarge/Disappointed_anim.gif

oh yeah how about TMS Shanghai. :lol: isn't that a superfast court? :lol:

2moretogo
02-16-2007, 04:21 AM
:lol: Karlovic won 8pts on return in that 2nd set...4 in the game blake served for the match :rolls:

Actually, he didn't. James DF twice. Even worse.

Corey Feldman
02-16-2007, 04:29 AM
Blake couldnt serve it out Vs Karlovic ?..
that is the height of :o:o:o
even Bilbo's grandmother in a wheelchair could serve Ivo out

tangerine_dream
02-16-2007, 04:32 AM
Since when? :scratch:
I don't think James plays his best stuff on ice. His game is better suited for a slow or medium-fast hardcourt.

Choking when he's serving for the match doesn't help, either.

Deboogle!.
02-16-2007, 04:35 AM
I don't think James plays his best stuff on ice. His game is better suited for a slow or medium-fast hardcourt.

Choking when he's serving for the match doesn't help, either.He's done very well indoors, winning Stockholm and Thailand last year. Differentiating between "medium-fast" and "fast" would be nitpicking, IMO. And I've never heard anything about him not doing well on fast surfaces before, so I don't think this has a lick to do with it. It was a tough close match, maybe he's still a little jetlagged from Davis Cup, not quite used to the surface, I'll buy all of that, but he choked pure and simple, regardless of surface :shrug:

Merton
02-16-2007, 04:36 AM
That was a classic choke, James always tries to hit agressive returns, something just impossible when Karlovic serves well. But getting broken on serve from Ivo :o

*Viva Chile*
02-16-2007, 04:41 AM
I can't believe that Ivo broke 2 times in a match :eek:

James :help:

ASP0315
02-16-2007, 04:45 AM
Ivo next plays Mardy Fish.(who struglled beat a no name player today.) another winnable match. Do your best Ivo.

Bagelicious
02-16-2007, 04:54 AM
:haha: :o James!

Ivo next plays Mardy Fish.(who struglled beat a no name player today.) another winnable match. Do your best Ivo.

:lol: Do we have MTF's one and only Karlotard? (Ivotard?)

Action Jackson
02-16-2007, 04:55 AM
George read the post properly. I said he "can" i did not say he "is"

He would have been in top 20 by now if he hadn't picked up his injury at Queens.(he was 45 in the world with a a lot of good results on claycourt) when bad luck happened.) Now he is coming back from his injury and get back into top 50. :) He will be you wait and see. :)

Plus do you remember his matches against davydenko and haas last year. :lol:

Problem with Karlovic is that he could go 7-6 6- 7-6 against Federer or number 1000 in the world and the score wouldn't differentiate that much.

sodman12
02-16-2007, 04:56 AM
Ivo was playing good. I saw one backhand winner. and it was just an outright winner from the back of the court on a pretty fast inside out from james. Its not like Ivo was just serving well and james was giving away points

Deboogle!.
02-16-2007, 05:24 AM
Ivo next plays Mardy Fish.(who struglled beat a no name player today.) another winnable match. Do your best Ivo.Sam Warburg may be a "no name player" but he's from the Bay Area, is a hometown boy, and has posted good results at this tournament, etc. So it's not quite what it might look on paper :shrug:

Fee
02-16-2007, 05:32 AM
That's true. Sam Warburg is on his way up. He's a Stanford graduate, plays for the Sacramento Capitals during Team Tennis (he grew up in the area), and can be a pretty tough scrappy player when he wants to be (ask Flip, he lost to Sam last October). I'd bet that match was worth every penny to the people who paid to see it.

jitterbug
02-16-2007, 06:05 AM
http://www.fileden.com/public/2007/2/16/45d5498478cd3800968696.jpg

Is this the first time Karlovic is featured solo on the main page? LOL. Tough luck, James.

Ays25
02-16-2007, 06:10 AM
karlovic was as high as @150 in the game
some people made fortunes

Blue Heart24
02-16-2007, 06:21 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
Oi Ivo! :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
Ivo is currently the best Croatian player(if the current form counts) :yeah:

henree
02-16-2007, 06:27 AM
I called this in the Gonzalez Def Blake thread. Blake is going to drop out of the top 10 by the French Open. He has finalist points to defend at Indian Wells, and Qtr points at Miami where he lost to Federer. 2006 was and will be the highlight of Blakes career. He has overachieved. Now he will go back to chokes, tanks and temper tantrums. Buh Bye James Flake.:angel:

Adler
02-16-2007, 07:40 AM
dammit. I hoped that all guys from Top 8 will confirm their seeding

Rogiman
02-16-2007, 09:07 AM
nice one, Ivo :lol:

Deathless Mortal
02-16-2007, 09:33 AM
Ivo :yeah: I can't believe he broke Blake's serve when Blake was serving for the match :tape: Something is changed. And then broke again in the third! Saved 5 MPs! :cool: He could beat Fish today, but he could lose... The problem with him is that he always depends on his serve. Ivo belongs at least in top75, hopefully he will come there soon :)

delsa
02-16-2007, 09:35 AM
James :sad:

Horatio Caine
02-16-2007, 09:41 AM
He would have been in top 20 by now if he hadn't picked up his injury at Queens

What have you been smoking?

Horatio Caine
02-16-2007, 09:42 AM
karlovic was as high as @150 in the game
some people made fortunes

Who in their right minds would back Ivo when he has to break to stay in the match though? :lol:

Horatio Caine
02-16-2007, 09:43 AM
Great win by Ivo! :bigclap: I'm not shocked, but surprised. But the circumstances of the win are rather amusing...Blake! :help:

ASP0315
02-16-2007, 09:44 AM
What have you been smoking?

What have you been smoking.?? Get a life
He was injured at queens.

Horatio Caine
02-16-2007, 09:46 AM
What have you been smoking.?? Get a life
He was injured at queens.

I know that, but he will never be top 20 with the return game he has. That is ludicrous suggestion! He is a good player and I have nothing against him, but he will never be that good.

Deathless Mortal
02-16-2007, 09:46 AM
In almost every news about Karlovic on ATP they mention his height!

Apemant
02-16-2007, 09:46 AM
Ivo :yeah: I can't believe he broke Blake's serve when Blake was serving for the match

Actually, it was Blake who broke himself, mainly. Doh, it must be painful to choke like that and then lose the match on top of that. Poor Blake.

ASP0315
02-16-2007, 09:48 AM
That's true. Sam Warburg is on his way up. He's a Stanford graduate, plays for the Sacramento Capitals during Team Tennis (he grew up in the area), and can be a pretty tough scrappy player when he wants to be (ask Flip, he lost to Sam last October). I'd bet that match was worth every penny to the people who paid to see it.

I din't say he was bad player. "no name player" doesn't neccesarily mean he is a bad player. But he got a lot potential like Sam Querry and Robert Kendrick. :yeah:

But i don't see mardy fish winning against ivo.

Horatio Caine
02-16-2007, 09:50 AM
But i don't see mardy fish winning against ivo.

A 51/49 match in favour of Fish imo...with most Karlo matches it is a coin flip. Hopefully he still has some gas for tonight :yeah:

Deathless Mortal
02-16-2007, 09:53 AM
No, 50/50 chances for Fish-Karlović. If Ivo serves good like he did against Blake he wins , if not, Mardy wins.

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 10:03 AM
Blake is the biggest choker in the Top 10 - it is sure for me :mad: In the Top 100 maybe only Mathieu has similar abilities of losing winning matches.

Bilbo
02-16-2007, 10:21 AM
Dr. Ivo is in da house :banana:

scoobs
02-16-2007, 10:30 AM
Over and ouch, James.

MrJ
02-16-2007, 10:34 AM
:rolleyes:

jazar
02-16-2007, 11:43 AM
poor james

Blue Heart24
02-16-2007, 11:54 AM
Blake is the biggest choker in the Top 10 - it is sure for me :mad: In the Top 100 maybe only Mathieu has similar abilities of losing winning matches.

You forgot Soderling,he is the biggest choker on tour.

Blue Heart24
02-16-2007, 11:57 AM
Who in their right minds would back Ivo when he has to break to stay in the match though? :lol:

Indeed :eek:

And when he's playing with Blake :eek: Nobody backed him at 150,that's sure.

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 11:58 AM
You forgot Soderling,he is the biggest choker on tour.

He improves himself a couple days ago when he defeated Mirnyi in the five thrilling sets :yeah:

ASP0315
02-16-2007, 12:03 PM
He improves himself a couple days ago when he defeated Mirnyi in the five thrilling sets :yeah:

Yes Soderling defeated Mirnyi on the superfast ice rink in Belarus.

Midnight Express
02-16-2007, 12:25 PM
I have only followed the scoreboard but there is no word explaining how you could be 7:6 *5:4 30:0 up with 100% of won points on your servis in 2nd set and LOSE a game with 4 straight points, the TB was a lottery but still 6:4* up, later *6:5...Everyone I have met today had this parlayed and got kicked by this choke.

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 12:47 PM
Match points saved stats after this match:

Karlovic: 6 matches won - 1 lost (12-4)
Blake: 0-7 (0-23) :eek:

Blake with his 0-9 in "five-setters" and 0-7 in "mp's saved" is bloody inflected :shrug:

oz_boz
02-16-2007, 12:51 PM
:lol: Go Ivo!

Peoples
02-16-2007, 12:55 PM
Shit happens

It's no use saying Blake is the worst player ever to have picked up the racket over this :rolleyes:

Apemant
02-16-2007, 12:57 PM
Match points saved stats after this match:

Karlovic: 6 matches won - 1 lost (12-4)
Blake: 0-7 (0-23) :eek:

Blake with his 0-9 in "five-setters" and 0-7 in "mp's saved" is bloody inflected :shrug:


What does this mean? Karlo won 6 matches after facing 12 MPs (total) and lost 1 match after HAVING 4 MPs?
And Blake lost 7 matches after having MPs (23 of them total? :eek: :sad: ) and won none where he faced them?

That means, anytime anyone had a MP against James, they ALWAYS made it through?

Do you have a thread with more stats like that? Who's the champion of converting lost matches into won? Who's the champion of never letting anyone go away once they get a MP?


BTW, what is this Dr. Ivo thing? Doctor what?

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 01:39 PM
What does this mean? Karlo won 6 matches after facing 12 MPs (total) and lost 1 match after HAVING 4 MPs?


:yeah: He lost against A.Martin in Umag after holding 4 match points. Karlovic won 6 matches facing 12 MPs:
Moodie (3), Mackin (1), Roddick (1), Korolev (1), Phau (1) & Blake (5).


And Blake lost 7 matches after having MPs (23 of them total? :eek: :sad: ) and won none where he faced them?

Exactly :(
He won admittedly the match against Brzezicki two years ago after saving 4 march points but it was a Challenger and I don't count this level.


That means, anytime anyone had a MP against James, they ALWAYS made it through?

Yep, on the main tour...


Who's the champion of converting lost matches into won?

I'm not sure but probably Ferrero from active players.


Who's the champion of never letting anyone go away once they get a MP?

If we count players who have been playing more than 300 matches Davydenko is the champion. He lost the first match in career after wasting a match point in this year at Australian Open.

aussie_fan
02-16-2007, 01:43 PM
:lol: james, oh dear.

Donny
02-16-2007, 01:47 PM
Funny thing about all-serve-all-the-time Ivo -- he'll suck next round like he always does after his fluke wins. And will surely lose to Fishy ... who LMAO lost a 6-2 set to ........ Warburg :tape: before righting his ship.

Deathless Mortal
02-16-2007, 01:50 PM
I'm not that sure Karlo will lose, although i won't be surprised at all if he loses after this win. I think it's all on him, if he serves well, he'll win :) And if not... :mad:

Il Primo Uomo
02-16-2007, 01:59 PM
Jame's going down. A real choker. So there aren't real american anymore!?

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 02:08 PM
I'm not that sure Karlo will lose, although i won't be surprised at all if he loses after this win. I think it's all on him, if he serves well, he'll win :) And if not... :mad:

I don't know who will win but is almost sure that the score will be similar to that from the match Blake-Karlovic. Karlovic - Fish H2H is 2-1 for "Ivo the Giant" including 6 tie-breaks - all TB's Fish lost :devil:

zicofirol
02-16-2007, 02:45 PM
Blake sucks...worst player in top 10 by a mile and half

Vamos IVO!

thats, robredo, who gets beaten by both karlovic and blake, lol

Fumus
02-16-2007, 02:49 PM
Dear James Blake,

You aren't the number 1 American that's clear. Roddick may not be as talented as you but, mentally he's 10x stronger. Get a new coach! ps. The ladies might think you are tennis's answer to Denzel Washington but I think you are only as good looking as your results.

-Fumus

gusman890
02-16-2007, 02:57 PM
reminds me the loss to RHH @ new haven last year when he had like 5 mps to play with and lost 6-4 6-7 6-7. :P

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 03:00 PM
I'm not sure but probably Ferrero from active players.

Moya, Henman or Rusedski have won more matches than Ferrero after saving a match point but Ferrero has better percentage of MP's "won/lost" matches.

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 03:03 PM
reminds me the loss to RHH @ new haven last year when he had like 5 mps to play with and lost 6-4 6-7 6-7. :P

Blake lost third time after wasting 5 match points...
Here are his - 7 in all - MP's defeats:
Novak (3), Enqvist (1), Fish (1), Moya (3), Grosjean (5), Ramirez-Hidalgo (5) & Karlovic (5).

Apemant
02-16-2007, 03:08 PM
Blake lost third time after wasting 5 match points...
Here are his - 7 in all - MP's defeats:
Novak (3), Enqvist (1), Fish (1), Moya (3), Grosjean (5), Ramirez-Hidalgo (5) & Karlovic (5).

Ewww... :sad:

BTW, do you have a complete record of this stuff, ATP level only (don't care about CH o below)? I mean, atptennis.com statistics don't show MPs wasted, so where do you dig them? :D

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 03:31 PM
Ewww... :sad:

BTW, do you have a complete record of this stuff, ATP level only (don't care about CH o below)? I mean, atptennis.com statistics don't show MPs wasted, so where do you dig them? :D

I don't have a complete record MP's "won/lost" and everytime I count these matches before I write that someone e.g. lost 4th match in career after wasting MP.
I look for this stuff in many sources. atptennis.com don't show MPs stats and therefore in my thread "Match points saved" is written that stats may be incomplete. Today for example atptennis.com:
"I Karlovic (CRO) d (2)J Blake (USA) 67(4) 76(11) 64 - Saved 5 M.P.
(8)V Spadea (USA) d F Lopez (ESP) 46 75 76(6)"

But I know that Spadea saved one match point at 5:6 in the tie-break because I saw it in a livestream.

GlennMirnyi
02-16-2007, 03:59 PM
So Ivo's just serve eh? :lol:

ae wowww
02-16-2007, 04:24 PM
Ivo is a lad!!!! :D

gogogirl
02-16-2007, 04:44 PM
Hey All,

James so blew that lead. He admits that he did. I mean 5-3 - 30/0. This is the time when one is suppose to bear all the way down. He didn't get the first serves in at this point - so Ivo munched on his second serves. Good on Ivo - and too bad for James. One deserved the win and the other deserved the loss. It really is that simple.

Ivo has heard the talk about him being all serve. Surely, he has been trying to improve his return of serve game, and when it counted - he did, winning the 4 straight points at 5-3 - 30/0. I agree with the ones that say once he gains confidence in his return game - he'll be top twenty before too long - and possibly top ten one day. Heck - he might surpass James and others if he gets his stuff together. His serve is the bomb, and he has that under control babeeeee. Congrats to him.

James has got to pick himself back up and dust himself off - and work on his first serve %. It is crucial that he does - or he will fall out of the top ten sooner than he can say but.......................... He can do it.

All of the players on the tour could improve on something. And the tour is just that deep. Look at other toppers that went out early this week. On any given day. I love the parity in the league right now. If you don't move right - you lose wrong.

tangerine_dream
02-16-2007, 06:35 PM
People are reading too much into this match. There's no question that Karlovic benefited from Blake choking and flaking out again. Karlovic is a true "nothing but a serve" player.

http://www.tennisreporters.net/spadea_021607_c.html
So here’s the eternal question about Karlovic, who primarily wins his matches because he’s almost impossible to break – without that serve, is he even a Top-200 player? Sure, every guy has his weapon, but most top 100 players have second or third shots that are at least somewhat impressive. The Croat does not. Yes, he can tag a forehand on occasion and his slice backhand has improved, but he rarely breaks serve, which shows how limited he is. He has a lifetime ATP record of 69-84, which is pretty lousy. Amazingly, in 41 matches in 2007, he contested 49 tiebreakers, winning 27 of them. That’s a lot of holds and not a lot of breaks.

"They’re a lot of ifs out there," Blake said. "If he had much stronger backhand he might be Top 10 and if he didn’t have that serve, he might not be in this tournament. If he didn’t have that serve, he might have worked on other parts of his game to get better. You are forced to play with what weaknesses and strengths you have. That’s his weapon and he's worked on it a ton and that’s how he wins matches."

El Legenda
02-16-2007, 06:47 PM
Karlovic has played 41 matches in 2007? really :speakles:

El Legenda
02-16-2007, 06:48 PM
also Blake sucks

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 06:50 PM
Karlovic has played 41 matches in 2007? really :speakles:

Heheh :smoke:

ljubicic_
02-16-2007, 07:58 PM
:lol: if one "top 10" player should retire than it's Blake leading 5-4 30:00 and still get broken:smash:

Good job Ivo now destroy Mardy!!:mad:

Deboogle!.
02-16-2007, 08:09 PM
People are reading too much into this match. There's no question that Karlovic benefited from Blake choking and flaking out again. Karlovic is a true "nothing but a serve" player.Depends on what you're reading into it. If you're reading into it that it means Karlovic's next stop is the top 10, then I agree. If you're reading into it that James has a serious choking problem and needs to stop denying it and accept it and do something to try to fix it, then I don't think you'd be reading too much into it at all :)

Jadranka
02-16-2007, 08:18 PM
Well done :)