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Stats about retirements, W.O.

Zirconek
02-12-2007, 02:06 PM
Does anybody has stats about injuries and W.O?
For example, I would like to know stats about players retiring at ATP, Challengers and futures matches, for tournament level and also individual stats, for singles and doubles (doubles might have an incredible WO frequency).
Thanks! :wavey:

Voo de Mar
02-12-2007, 04:47 PM
Here's an interesting one...

Jordi Burillo's road to the title in Segovia (challenger) 1997

R32 Bruno, Nicola (ITA) 3:0 ret.
R16 Calatrava, Alex (ESP) 6-2 4:2 ret.
Q Osorio, Marco (MEX) 6-3 3:1 ret.
S Clavet, Francisco (ESP) 6-4 6-4
W Escude, Nicolas (FRA) 6-3 2:1 ret.

Burillo won four of five matches after the retirement of opponent! :devil: This is specific record.

Voo de Mar
02-12-2007, 05:22 PM
Another curiosity:

Boris Becker in Key Biscayne 1993 left the event after three rounds without hitting the ball (!) whilst the five other players in the 3rd round were playing sixth match of the tournament (3 in the qualies, 3rd in the main draw) :D

Becker KB '93:

R128 bye
R64 Pozzi, Gianluca (ITA) w/o
R32 Kulti, Nicklas (SWE) w/o

Zirconek
02-13-2007, 11:17 PM
Thanks, Voo. Both really interesting :yeah:

I remember the Burrillo's road from your signature :)

I'm going to make some statistics about retirement and WO, if can't find them already done. I would like to know the frequencies. Hopefuly I can have some from ATP. Another interesting statistic could be done about entry lists, some players quit before the tournament, and get the stats abOUT (just out, to distinguish injured from other abandomnents is not possible, I think)

Voo de Mar
02-14-2007, 09:47 AM
Here is another interesting fact... (Matchpoint ret.)
Masters 1972, Semifinal:
Tom Gorman was leading against Stan Smith 7-6, 6-7, 7-5, 5:4 (40-30) when he reitired :lol: Gorman had the problems with his shoulder since the half of the first set and he said after the match that he wouldn't be able to play in the final. So he chose retirement instead of "w/o" before the final :D

Similar situations:

US Open 1999: J.Novak leads against F.Santoro 6-1, 6-0, 5:1 (30-0)... Santoro retired
Paris-Bercy 1999: R.Krajicek leads against M.Rosset 4-6, 7-5, 5:2... Krajicek retired
(Krajicek's reason was parallel to Gorman's case)
Marseille 2001: K.Kucera leads against J.Tarango 7-6, 5:3 (40-0)... Tarango retired

Voo de Mar
02-14-2007, 10:07 AM
The latest retirement on account of a length match, I think was in the Davis Cup final 1998 when Sweden defeated Italy. Andrea Gaudenzi retired (shoulder injury) in the match against Magnus Norman after 4 hours and 56 minutes of play. M.Norman was leading 6-7(9), 7-6(0), 4-6, 6-3, 6:6 (30-0)...

Zirconek
02-14-2007, 01:17 PM
thanks again, Voo! :yeah:

there is also:
Shrewsberry CH, 2006, 1st round: (LL)Sergei Bubka, Jr. (UKR) d. (2)Dick Norman (BEL) 6-4 6-6 (6-2) ret.
but not sure if it was a retirement or if the older one was defaulted:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=90788&highlight=bubka

Kolya
02-16-2007, 09:41 AM
Interesting stats guys,

BTW, a retirement still counts as loss right?

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 09:44 AM
Interesting stats guys,

BTW, a retirement still counts as loss right?

Yes.

jayjay
02-16-2007, 01:57 PM
Here's an interesting one...

Jordi Burillo's road to the title in Segovia (challenger) 1997

R32 Bruno, Nicola (ITA) 3:0 ret.
R16 Calatrava, Alex (ESP) 6-2 4:2 ret.
Q Osorio, Marco (MEX) 6-3 3:1 ret.
S Clavet, Francisco (ESP) 6-4 6-4
W Escude, Nicolas (FRA) 6-3 2:1 ret.

Burillo won four of five matches after the retirement of opponent! :devil: This is specific record.

:lol: Makes Mauresmo's AO Slam almost seem credible now. :p

Nathaliia
02-16-2007, 02:39 PM
thanks again, Voo! :yeah:

there is also:
Shrewsberry CH, 2006, 1st round: (LL)Sergei Bubka, Jr. (UKR) d. (2)Dick Norman (BEL) 6-4 6-6 (6-2) ret.
but not sure if it was a retirement or if the older one was defaulted:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=90788&highlight=bubka

Some good source ;) (SOS :o) said Norman was going nuts in that match and retired out of nothing just before the last point.

dijus
02-16-2007, 04:15 PM
Here's an interesting one...

Jordi Burillo's road to the title in Segovia (challenger) 1997

R32 Bruno, Nicola (ITA) 3:0 ret.
R16 Calatrava, Alex (ESP) 6-2 4:2 ret.
Q Osorio, Marco (MEX) 6-3 3:1 ret.
S Clavet, Francisco (ESP) 6-4 6-4
W Escude, Nicolas (FRA) 6-3 2:1 ret.

Burillo won four of five matches after the retirement of opponent! :devil: This is specific record.

:eek: :lol: awesome :eek:

Henry Chinaski
02-16-2007, 05:06 PM
Here is another interesting fact... (Matchpoint ret.)
Masters 1972, Semifinal:
Tom Gorman was leading against Stan Smith 7-6, 6-7, 7-5, 5:4 (40-30) when he reitired :lol: Gorman had the problems with his shoulder since the half of the first set and he said after the match that he wouldn't be able to play in the final. So he chose retirement instead of "w/o" before the final :D

Similar situations:

US Open 1999: J.Novak leads against F.Santoro 6-1, 6-0, 5:1 (30-0)... Santoro retired
Paris-Bercy 1999: R.Krajicek leads against M.Rosset 4-6, 7-5, 5:2... Krajicek retired
(Krajicek's reason was parallel to Gorman's case)
Marseille 2001: K.Kucera leads against J.Tarango 7-6, 5:3 (40-0)... Tarango retired

This was another one I think:

Kitzbuhel, 2005, R 32: Christophe Rochus lost to Stefan Koubek(89,0.71) (AUT) 4-6 6-4 5-4 ret

not sure of the point scores.

jayjay
02-16-2007, 05:09 PM
This was another one I think:

Kitzbuhel, 2005, R 32: Christophe Rochus lost to Stefan Koubek(89,0.71) (AUT) 4-6 6-4 5-4 ret

not sure of the point scores.

Koubek was at MP on Rochus serve, but the Belgian was cramping all over and had to stop.

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 05:23 PM
Another perverse retirement came from 2nd round of event in Orlando 1998.
Hernan Gumy was leading against Alex Calatrava 6-4, 5:3 (40-30) when he twisted an ankle at match point. Gumy came back on court but lost the set on a tie-break and retired.
The final score: Calatrava won 4-6 7-6(5) ret.

Voo de Mar
02-16-2007, 07:07 PM
Sjengster wrote on GM that Jerome Golmard holds the record of most retirements...
I've checked out - he retired 29 times in his career (including eight times in the Challengers)! He also gave to his opponent three times "w/o":
1994: 1 ret.
1995: 1 ret.
1997: 4 ret. 1 w/o
1998: 4 ret.
1999: 2 ret. 1 w/o
2000: 4 ret. 1 w/o
2001: 4 ret.
2002: 1 ret.
2003: 4 ret.
2004: 4 ret.

smucav
02-25-2007, 01:54 AM
http://stevegtennis.com/records06.htmThe "Nah, I Just Don't Feel Like It" Award

Next we have the "Nah, I Just Don't Feel Like It" Award, given to those players who had a habit of retiring during matches. This year the award is won by Dmitry Ivanov (UZB) who retired an amazing 7 times. He has defended his title because he shared this award last year as well. (Interesting how many of these winners are alone on top.) Three players, Guillermo Alcaide (ESP), Kris Nathan (USA), and Wolfgang Schranz (AUT), retired 6 times during the year. Of course, this is not to say these players didn't have legitimate injuries when they decided not to go on.

On the flip side is the Free Ride Award for players who had the good fortune of having their opponents make it easy on them by retiring. Nathan Healey (AUS) is our winner here. Again, he is all alone at the top with 6 opponents having retired. In addition, 7 players got 5 partial free passes. When you add walkovers to the list, even more of a free ride, Jan Hajek (CZE) and Ignacio "Nacho" Coll (ESP) join the list at 6. No one had more than 2 wins by walkover.