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(1) Brasil vs Paraguay

Bolivero
03-26-2004, 05:42 AM
BRASIL VS PARAGUAY, SEMI FINAL AMERICAS CUP!

Bolivero
03-26-2004, 05:52 AM
Teams

BRASIL

Marcos Daniel
Alexandre Simoni
Julio Silva

PARAGUAY GOOD LUCK! :hearts:

Ramon Delgado
Francisco Rodriguez
Paulo Carvallo
Daniel Lopez (14 year old!)

Head to Head 0-0

Costa Do Sauipe, Bahia, BRA
Stadium Capacity: 4000
09 April - 11 April 2004
Day 1: 1000hrs (GMT 1300hrs) TBC
Day 2: 1200hrs (GMT 1500hrs) TBC
Day 3: 1000hrs (GMT 1300hrs) TBC
Surface: Clay (Red Clay) - Outdoors

Previous Round:
Paraguay d Venezuela 4-1
(1. R.Delgado d J.Szymanski 6-4 6-1
2. J.De Armas d F.Rodriguez 2-6 6-2 4-6 6-2 6-1
3. P.Carvallo/R.Delgado d J.De Armas/Szymanski 6-3 6-7(4) 6-2 4-6 6-3
4. R.Delgado d J.De Armas 4-6 1-6 6-3 6-1 6-4
5. F.Rodriguez d D.Vallverdu 7-5 6-3)

Brasil BYE

Bolivero
03-26-2004, 05:53 AM
Date: April 09-April 11

Go Paraguay! :hearts:

Hantuchov
04-06-2004, 04:18 AM
Weak team :rolleyes:

Guga and Flavio :smash: :mad:

Good Luck guys, show them you can also beat Paraguay! :bounce:

Neely
04-06-2004, 06:26 AM
Guga and Flavio :smash: :mad:
why did Kuerten and the other top players (Sa, Saretta, Mello) decide not to play for the Brazilian Davis Cup team?

I've heard that he/they has a dispute and a protest with the Brazilian Tennis Federation. Can someone explain that in more details what have happened or can someone give me a link in English where I can read about it?

As far as I know, Guga always enjoyed playing Davis Cup and he liked to represent his country... :sad:

amethyst
04-06-2004, 02:25 PM
Hi Neely, here´s the summary of events from Jon Wertheims tennis mailbag on SI.com:


Here´s the skinny from our south American correspondent Bruno Sassi:

"Well, any reports certainly won´t tell you the whole story. Not only because it´s a long, intricate one, but because perhaps no one - not even the main characters involved really know it all. I´ll try to pick up some pieces and clear things up as much as possible in a space shorter than an essay (not much shorter, though).

Mr. Nelson Nastás has been the president of Brazilian Tennis Federation (CBT, in Portuguese) for the last 10 years. In this period of time, Gustavo Kuerten has flourished out of nowhere, conquered three Grand Slams titles and given new life to Brazilian tennis. New life means the sport has become more popular, and no more than that. Not in single way has the Federation utilized Guga´s phenomenon in order to enhance the country´s structure to develop new players - like the Argentineans, who now have two top-10 players and six in the top 50, did with Guillermo Vilas.

That is a fact and has been for a long while. It´s not like Guga, or anybody else, became aware of that only now, before this Davis Cup tie against Paraguay. Likewise, Mr. Nastás has been accused of bad administration since Day 1. A few facts have been the ignition to all the turmoil; a group of State Federations, led by Santa Catarina (Kuerten´s home State) has taken charge of attacks against Nastás administration; the Brazilian team lost its two ties (Sweden and Canada) in 2003 and will be out of the World group for the first time since 1994; and, with atmosphere already heavy as that, the CBT decided to change the captain - Ricardo Acioly for Jaime Oncins - during the Brazil Open, without consulting the players. And...boom. That´s when the players - mostly Guga´s - reaction started.

Kuerten claimed that he wouldn´t play for Brazil as long as Mr. Nastás was the president. Flávio Saretta, Ricardo Mello and André Sá echoed his shout. The problem was not Oncins being named captain, and all players made that clear. Anyway, he resigne as well. Under pressure, Nastás conceded. He re-scheduled the elections from October to May 15 and guaranteed formally that he wouldn´t be a candidate and that he would abdicate his position the very next day, as soon as the new president was chosen. Neither of the four players considered it enough to disclaim the boycott and last Wednesday Nastás decided to induct a new captain and three players who agreed to play for Brazil.

The brave men or betrayers, call them what you will, are Marcos Daniel (ranked 194th), Alexandre Simoni (296th) and Júlio Silva (346th) which makes Paraguay´s Ramón Delgado (191th) the best-ranked player in the tie. Former two-time Orange Bowl champ Carlos "Chapecó" Chabalgoity is the captain. There´s another issue with that: Chabalgoity´s the technical director of a competition team that includes both Saretta, Mello and Simoni.

Hantuchov
04-06-2004, 02:58 PM
Exactly! :yeah:

But Nastás has already decided to leave CBT, so, I think, Guga and the other players could play the Davis Cup, cuz what they asked for was attended. It really doesnt matter if Nastás will leave today, next week, or next month, the most important thing is that it is 100% sure he'll leave. That's why I think they were a little bit incomprehensible when they said they will only play when Nastás would be away from CBT.

Brazil has few chances to qualify, for I believe in these players, they are feeling the pressure, yes, but they have potential to beat Paraguay. It will be very very tough, but I'll cheer on them.

C'mooooooooonnnnn guys! :bounce:

Lee
04-06-2004, 04:40 PM
But Nastás has already decided to leave CBT, so, I think, Guga and the other players could play the Davis Cup, cuz what they asked for was attended. It really doesnt matter if Nastás will leave today, next week, or next month, the most important thing is that it is 100% sure he'll leave. That's why I think they were a little bit incomprehensible when they said they will only play when Nastás would be away from CBT.


May be some of the posts in this thread will make you understand why Guga and other players still refused to play.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=9297

Hantuchov
04-06-2004, 09:52 PM
May be some of the posts in this thread will make you understand why Guga and other players still refused to play.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=9297

Sorry, I keep my opinion. I know nothing has been done since Guga became a phenomenon here, but leaving the Davis Cup team now wont solve anything. They have already achieved what they wanted, that is Nastás out of CBT, so it's already enough. It doesnt matter if he'll leave tomorrow or in May, they should have changed their mind since they knew Nastás would pull out from Brazilian Confederation.

I still think they are being immature and grumpy :mad:

Lee
04-06-2004, 10:40 PM
Hantuchov, I have no intention to force my opinion on you. It's a very personal feeling of whether it's enough that Nastas is out of CBT. So far, Nastas is not yet out of CBT, he has changed his tone so many times since the debacle started that I wonder whether he may change his tone again. :shrug:

btw, I like all the players on your signature except Rusedski :cool:

Billabong
04-06-2004, 11:00 PM
GO Brazil :banana:!!!

Neely
04-07-2004, 01:33 AM
thanks alll, for the information... I understand Guga's case now better :)

amethyst
04-07-2004, 06:24 PM
Sorry, I keep my opinion. I know nothing has been done since Guga became a phenomenon here, but leaving the Davis Cup team now wont solve anything. They have already achieved what they wanted, that is Nastás out of CBT, so it's already enough. It doesnt matter if he'll leave tomorrow or in May, they should have changed their mind since they knew Nastás would pull out from Brazilian Confederation.

I still think they are being immature and grumpy :mad:

I can see your point, but I think Guga and the others wouldn´t act this way if they weren´t convinced Nastás could still cheat them. Sure they would not act without serious consideration as they all - especially Guga - have been devoted Davis Cup players before.

Hantuchov
04-07-2004, 07:44 PM
Thank you Lee ;)

Well, I really dont think Nastás will cheat them now after saying to the media he will leave. It's just a matter of time, in my opinion.

I just hope, for now, Daniel and Simoni can defeat Paraguay. :bounce:

Lee
04-07-2004, 09:01 PM
Thank you Lee ;)

Well, I really dont think will cheat them now after saying to the media he will leave. It's just a matter of time, in my opinion.

I just hope, for now, Daniel and Simoni can defeat Paraguay. :bounce:

Nastás will be gone from the president position but whether he will put a puppet there is still unknown and that's what I believe the players are contemplating.

Go Brazil Go :bounce:

Lee
04-09-2004, 09:43 PM
Delgado def Silva 7-6(3) 6-4 6-1
Rodriguez def Daniels 6-4 1-6 2-6 6-4 11-9 :sad:

Paraguay leads Brazil 2-0

Hantuchov
04-10-2004, 01:40 AM
:bigcry:

C'mooon guys, keep fighting!

Lee, did Simoni pulled out or was it the captain choice, to name Julio to play?

Lee
04-10-2004, 05:12 AM
:bigcry:

C'mooon guys, keep fighting!

Lee, did Simoni pulled out or was it the captain choice, to name Julio to play?

I think it's the captain's choice. Simoni is scheduled to play doubles.

CooCooCachoo
04-10-2004, 06:17 AM
I think it's the captain's choice. Simoni is scheduled to play doubles

Hmm, that makes it a very weird choice. Alexandre is by far more experienced and he should've been able to pull it off. What has happened to him anyway? He used to have quite a nice ranking a few years ago?!

Hantuchov
04-10-2004, 05:17 PM
He choked, just like André Sá last year :rolleyes:

yes, if Brazil wins today, I hope he will play singles tomorrow as Brazilian #2 player.

Brazil leads Paraguay 6-4 4-6 4-1* in doubles

C'moooooonnnnnnnn guys! :bounce:

Hantuchov
04-10-2004, 05:32 PM
Brazil leads Paraguay 6-4 4-6 6-3 in doubles

C'mooon guys, finish it off now! :bounce:

Hantuchov
04-10-2004, 06:27 PM
phew :)
Brazil is still alive :woohoo:

Goffi/Simoni def. Delgado/Carvalho 6-4 4-6 6-3 6-4

Paraguay leads Brazil 2-1

C'moooon Daniel, kick Ramon's ass tomorrow and show him who's the boss :bounce:

I hope Simoni play the other singles match :rolleyes: