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Layla
09-14-2002, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Hey, I like Henboy! Not as much as the players I'm constantly yakking about, but enough that I wish he'd win Wimbly--and he's been playing okay on clay lately, so . . .

Sometimes it just astonishes me how intelligent the players in tennis are as compared to other sports, especially like basketball, baseball, or American football. Tennis players know multiple languages and are so culturally aware (for the most part).

But back to the interviews--I wish that when the reporters start asking the players questions in their native languages, they would NOT tape over it with translated English. They did this with Juan Carlos & Michel and it bugged the hell out of me. Both speak so nicely in their native tongues :(

That's true. Even a player like Rusedski, who I'm sure you all think is an ass (and righty so sometimes), speaks fluent Spanish and French I think. I'm not sure about the other one.

Oh I hate anything that's been dubbed in any way. German and Austrian TV stations dub all movies into German. Arrrgh. :mad: But maybe there's some sort of a concensus that sports fans hate subtitles lol (or maybe they just don't have the time). As for the interviews, I'm rarely fortunate enough to see those parts when players answer in their native languages. I'm lucky enough if I see bits of the English part. :( I did hear quite a few of them speak in RG, because the Eurosport coverage was so great. Juan Carlos does sound great in Spanish lol. :) Never heard Michel speak though. :(

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I don't entirely believe in perfect learning years for languages (or anything else for that matter), so I'm sure you can still achieve a degree of brilliance if you really want to. How did this love for Russia come about and what do you love about it?

Well, it has been proven that if you want to be completely and totally fluent, as in a native dual speaker of a language, you should really start the language around age 5 or so. If you do start a language that young, I think you can also learn languages later in life much easier than others as well.

Obviously, I can carry on a conversation in Russian, but I get confused by the verbs sometimes, because there aren't "im/perfective" verbs in English and it's really difficult to grasp that concept. And if I learned a lot more vocabulary, I'd be moderately proficient.

Ah, Russia. I can't really pinpoint the moment I became consumed by the country, especially considering the history of our countries :rolleyes: But I think reading Edward Rutherford's "Russka: The Story of Russia" had something to do with it. Rutherford is an amazing historian, and he wrote this huge saga that emcompassed more or less all of Russia's history--no small feat. And of course I have this fascination with royalty (I think most Americans do) so I started reading about Russia's history and I've been hooked ever since. :)

Layla
09-14-2002, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I feel waaaay too inadequate to discuss great films with you guys, but I can add something here. Martin Scorcese is wonderful. The main people who were morbidly offended by The Last Temptation of Christ were, indeed, people who didn't see it themselves. There was a big uproar when it came out because of the title--tempting Christ is a no-no :rolleyes:

Anyway, the only Scorcese film I've seen is "Age of Innocence". It was absolutely gorgeous. I have this thing for period peices, but sometimes they are waaaay too mushy and stupid. "Age of Innocence" was too good for words. I read the original novel because I loved the movie so much, and it stayed as in line with the book as is possible. :drool:

LMAO TH! Because we are so brilliant they are rewriting all the books on film theory as we speak. :p Please join us.

Age of Innocence was beautiful and very realistic so no, it doesn't fall intoteh mushy category. But I haven't read the novel yet. Another movie that doesn't fit that category is The Portrait of a Lady directed by Jane Campion. For me, that was a very disturbing book and when I saw John Malkovich's brilliant portrayal of his screwed up character I was almost choking with anger. That scene when the door closes behind Nicole Kidman and everything is dark could sum up the entire movie. The whole meaning revealed in just a few seconds of brilliant direction and cinematography.

Vera
09-14-2002, 12:28 AM
Rusedski is a Quebecor so he should know French. But I didn't know he speaks spanish too. I'm quite indifferent to him despite the fact that he left Canada (since we all know that tennis and Canada doesn't mix well). Indeed, I felt a little sorry for him after he made a fool of himself making that Pete speech.

Tim is okay, I won't overwhelmingly root for him but I do want him to do well as long as he didn't beat any of my fave.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Vera
I thought so too, that it bugs me crazy not to be able to hear his voice. Though I don't know a word in spanish that he says. I did sometimes goes on to his official site, I mean JC's and listen to his video interviews. Still don't have a clue what he says but it sounds beautiful coming out from his mouth.

I don't even try to understand what they're saying, but just like to listen to their voices. Sometimes, especially if players have halting English, when the questions swtich to their native languages they relax and sound confident and just better about themselves.

Even though Michel speaks gorgeously in English, I could listen to him talk in Swiss all day, even if he was just saying "I have a hole in my socks". :o

But I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Layla
That's true. Even a player like Rusedski, who I'm sure you all think is an ass (and righty so sometimes), speaks fluent Spanish and French I think. I'm not sure about the other one.

Safin speaks about five languages. He's so intelligent! Younes :fiery: speaks like six. It just blows my mind!


Oh I hate anything that's been dubbed in any way. German and Austrian TV stations dub all movies into German. Arrrgh. :mad: But maybe there's some sort of a concensus that sports fans hate subtitles lol (or maybe they just don't have the time). As for the interviews, I'm rarely fortunate enough to see those parts when players answer in their native languages. I'm lucky enough if I see bits of the English part. :( I did hear quite a few of them speak in RG, because the Eurosport coverage was so great. Juan Carlos does sound great in Spanish lol. :) Never heard Michel speak though. :(

Oh, I never saw the interviews on TV, but on the website. Michel had one of the Wimbly website before his match with Henman. I don't know if it's still there or not . . .

I don't think I've ever heard an undubbed Juan Carlos in Spanish interview. His English is cute, though, so I could only imagine what he sounded like in Spanish :hearts:

Vera
09-14-2002, 12:37 AM
Hey, I Roger and Michel are both from swiss, right. Those Swiss guys are all good at English. What's their native tougue? German or French?

BTW, Layla, I never really see them interviewing JC on TV. Those American TV is not going to give me the pleasure to watch him being interveiwed (exceptally one is that interview on ESPN in Cincy after he moved on to Semi). I only saw it on Grand Slam site when they tape the press conference. BTW, USO didn't have a single interview with JC. Shame on them. :rolleyes:

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Layla
LMAO TH! Because we are so brilliant they are rewriting all the books on film theory as we speak. :p Please join us.

I don't watch a lot of movies, so I don't feel comfortable discussing them with anyone. But if you want my two cents, I'll gladly throw them in. :)


Age of Innocence was beautiful and very realistic so no, it doesn't fall intoteh mushy category. But I haven't read the novel yet. Another movie that doesn't fit that category is The Portrait of a Lady directed by Jane Campion. For me, that was a very disturbing book and when I saw John Malkovich's brilliant portrayal of his screwed up character I was almost choking with anger. That scene when the door closes behind Nicole Kidman and everything is dark could sum up the entire movie. The whole meaning revealed in just a few seconds of brilliant direction and cinematography.

I LOVE stuff like that! (BTW, the novel "Age of Innocence" is rather dense, like books of that period, but really good! There were a few small changes to the movie, but honestly, not many.) I mean, you don't have to verbally say every little thing that is going on, I feel insulted sometimes. Although sometimes, I just don't get it at all. Like Rushmore and Election--I was just like, "What exactly is the point of these movies?"

I think the BBC makes nice period films as well, especially the Jane Austen novels--which I think are much better as movies than books. They are so visual to me.

Vera
09-14-2002, 12:40 AM
Safin has it all, what can I say. He's smart, funny, goodlooking, genuine and nice. Not to mention talented.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Hey, I Roger and Michel are both from swiss, right. Those Swiss guys are all good at English. What's their native tougue? German or French?

Yes, both are from Switzerland, and I think Swiss is indeed a language. I'm not sure what it's related to, though. I think it's Germanic instead of Romantic, but I could be totally wrong.

Vera
09-14-2002, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Yes, both are from Switzerland, and I think Swiss is indeed a language. I'm not sure what it's related to, though. I think it's Germanic instead of Romantic, but I could be totally wrong.

Oops, is there such language? I really don't know much about language. I mean I only know one of my country's two official language, that tells it all. :o That's why I admire so much that ppl speaks multi language.

Layla
09-14-2002, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I LOVE stuff like that! (BTW, the novel "Age of Innocence" is rather dense, like books of that period, but really good! There were a few small changes to the movie, but honestly, not many.) I mean, you don't have to verbally say every little thing that is going on, I feel insulted sometimes. Although sometimes, I just don't get it at all. Like Rushmore and Election--I was just like, "What exactly is the point of these movies?"

True, sometimes they overdo it and make the movie too bookish. The Portrait of a Lady is quite dense too but then Henry James is probably considered as one of the densest (lol) writers in the English language. Interestingly enough, the movie was very visual and translated the verbal density of the novel into eloquent movie language. Well done indeed. :)

I've never heard of Rushmore or Election. What are those? :confused:

I think the BBC makes nice period films as well, especially the Jane Austen novels--which I think are much better as movies than books. They are so visual to me.

Oh but I love those novels too. I find myself reading them over and over again. Rather pathetic eh? :rolleyes: Like some terrible movie cliche. But it's true. :o

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 12:50 AM
Whoa, was I ever wrong.

According to the CIA World Factbook, there are 3 :eek: official languages of Switzerland:

Languages: German (official) 63.7%, French (official) 19.2%, Italian (official) 7.6%, Romansch 0.6%, other 8.9%

That's what talking out of my ass gets me :o

Vera
09-14-2002, 12:51 AM
Age of Innocence is great. I thought Pfeiffer is such a great actress. Didn't read the book though. Nor did I realise it's a Scorcese movie.

Vera
09-14-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Whoa, was I ever wrong.

That's what talking out of my ass gets me :o

I did that sometimes, just the other day, I told a friend that Juanqui speaks Catalan. Well, he didn't because he isn't Catalan.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Layla
True, sometimes they overdo it and make the movie too bookish. The Portrait of a Lady is quite dense too but then Henry James is probably considered as one of the densest (lol) writers in the English language. Interestingly enough, the movie was very visual and translated the verbal density of the novel into eloquent movie language. Well done indeed. :)

I've never heard of Rushmore or Election. What are those? :confused:

Oh, I am familiar with James Joyce, and he is indeed very, very frustrating to read :mad: Not a big fan of so many levels in a novel. I mean, it doesn't have to be be a puff piece, but every turn of phrase doesn't have to have multiple implications.

Rushmore (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0128445) and Election (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0126886). They are both American independent films. I just didn't understand them at all.


Oh but I love those novels too. I find myself reading them over and over again. Rather pathetic eh? :rolleyes: Like some terrible movie cliche. But it's true. :o

I can't read Jan Austen novels, they are so boring to me. So much that happens isn't verbally communicated, and I can only read discription for so long. But the stories translate so well to a visual medium, and I quite enjoy a good rendition.

Vera
09-14-2002, 01:00 AM
Now is my turn to feel out of place, cos I don't read too much novels. All I like is sci-fi books and thrillers.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:01 AM
Heehee, more from the CIA World Factbook (I like that place) on Switzerland:

"Disputes-international: none"

LMAO, well, duh! They have been a neutral territory probably since the inception of the Swiss state (1291, for those interested ;))

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Hi ILR! :wavey:

Yes, I believe that Portuguese is very hard indeed. We are also not as familiar with it as with other languages that we hear quite often. But it is a lovely language. I love a group called Madredeus and I listen to it quite often, but the meaning of the words eludes me. :o Italian is beautiful, but too fast for me. I don't like to talk that fast. :o

Useful ILR? ;)

Its not that hard! I can speak quite well... :p

Seriously, maybe I can help you with those lyrics. :p

"Ai que ninguem volta
Ao que ja deixou
Ninguem larga a grande roda,
Ninguem sabe onde é que andou
Ai que ninguem lembra
nem o que sonhou
Aquele menino canta
A cantiga do pastor..."

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Oh, I am familiar with James Joyce, and he is indeed very, very frustrating to read :mad: Not a big fan of so many levels in a novel. I mean, it doesn't have to be be a puff piece, but every turn of phrase doesn't have to have multiple implications.


Ahm, Henry James, not James Joyce. :o James Joyce is just annoying. Well I shouldn't be saying this with my degree in the English language and literature, but I never could get through a novel of his. :mad: Henry James is much, much better. :)

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Layla
You simply have to see Wings of Desire! It's my all time favorite movie. I usually have problems compiling top 5 lists but not in this case. It's been my favorite for over 10 years now. :) That movie is something else.

Memento was indeed a superb film. As for The Matrix, it simply blew me away. It's definitely in my top 10 list. I remember getting so energized after every viewing. Physically energized.

Maybe my favorite "genre" are American independent movies. None of the European morbidity but all of its better qualities, such as unique vision, irony, unpredictability, philosophical depth. Have you heard of Hal Hartley? He's my favorite American director. His early film called Trust is in my top 10 as well. Unfortunately his creativity seems to have withered lately. The last indie movie I saw was Being John Malkovich which also made my head spin.

Another movie I loved was Happy Texas, which doesn't strictly have the feel of an indy movie but it was so hilarious. And it starred Jeremy Northam and that always helps. ;) I think it won an award at Sundance but I'm not sure.

DEMENTED FOREVER!!!!

Have you seen Cecil B Demented? No? Run to your video and rent it NOW! :fiery:
;)

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:05 AM
So help me Hitman. Please? :D

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Now is my turn to feel out of place, cos I don't read too much novels. All I like is sci-fi books and thrillers.

I don't get to read for pleasure as much as I'd like to, but when I do I read either historical fiction or straight-up history. So, you know, I have about as limited a scope.

Even though I think contemporary British books. Like Damascus (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1559704608/qid=1031962501/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_3/002-7061144-8216047?v=glance&s=books&n=507846), About a Boy (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1573227331/qid=1031962581/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-7061144-8216047), and Man and Boy (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0743225082/qid=1031962626/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-7061144-8216047). I don't know how I made that leap, but I did :)

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Oh I used to love David Lynch. I was quite a Twin Peaks fanatic at one point. When he killed everyone in the final episode and turned Agent Cooper into Bob, he completely destroyed my world. I felt lost and confused for days lol :o But now I don't consider him to be the director he once was. I think it started with Twin Peaks the movie, which was just horrible. Lost Highway had some of his old touch, but I think all that hype has gotten to his head and now he's purposely fooling the audience with whatever crap he can think of. I haven't seen Mulholland Drive yet, but I read a terrible review by someone I have great respect for and he said it's just pretentious and empty. I bet he's out there having a good (and mean) laugh over all the viewers discussing what it all means. If you don't understand any of it, it must be good. :rolleyes: I really think it's an inside joke that's gotten too far and I don't respect him for that anymore. :(

Hmm, I disagree on this. The biggest jerk-film-reviewer here said the same. I tell you what: they didnt understand shit. :o

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Ahm, Henry James, not James Joyce. :o James Joyce is just annoying. Well I shouldn't be saying this with my degree in the English language and literature, but I never could get through a novel of his. :mad: Henry James is much, much better. :)

OMG! :o:o:o I can't believe I did that.

Well, actually, yes I can. I get them confused all the time. But once again I feel incredibly stupid :o:o:o

Anyway, I think the point was taken . . .

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by hitman


Hmm, I disagree on this. The biggest jerk-film-reviewer here said the same. I tell you what: they didnt understand shit. :o

Yes but neither did anyone else. :p That doesn't make a movie great. ;)

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:09 AM
Hey, hitman's here! :wavey:

And he didn't hit me over my comment on Portuguese. WHEW! :)

Vera
09-14-2002, 01:11 AM
Demented! What language is this film? Is it new? BTW, reminded me of "A woman on the verge of nervous breakdown", Antonio Benderous (not sure of the spelling). That's of course way before he became famous. But a great spanish film.

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:11 AM
Well, I did. :p
At least I guess I did. :o
lol!

Give me the lyrics and Ill help; the one I wrote is a part of "O pastor", which was the theme song for one of the best tv series ever, based on Eça de Queiroz´ story "Os Maias"
Eça, btw, was Portuguese.

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


OMG! :o:o:o I can't believe I did that.

Well, actually, yes I can. I get them confused all the time. But once again I feel incredibly stupid :o:o:o


Oh don't say that. I mix things up all the time. ;) I didn't mean to make you feel embarrased. :( I just didn't want to be known as someone who enjoys James Joyce lol. :p

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by hitman
Give me the lyrics and Ill help; the one I wrote is a part of "O pastor", which was the theme song for one of the best tv series ever, based on Eça de Queiroz´ story "Os Maias"
Eça, btw, was Portuguese.

I meant could you translate what you've written for starters? I would appreciate it. :)

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Oh don't say that. I mix things up all the time. ;) I didn't mean to make you feel embarrased. :( I just didn't want to be known as someone who enjoys James Joyce lol. :p

Don't worry about me, I am embarrassed most of the time when I start talking about stuff I know nothing about. I've never read anything by Henry James, I don't think.

Vera
09-14-2002, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Layla


Oh don't say that. I mix things up all the time. ;) I didn't mean to make you feel embarrased. :( I just didn't want to be known as someone who enjoys James Joyce lol. :p

Makes me curious what James Joyce writes.
Okay, I also don't want to be associated with ppl who read all those junks sci-fi books. I only read the classic like Dune and though Lord of the Rings is not sci-fi, but fantasy also my fave.

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:16 AM
Vera, the name of the movie is "demented forever". It has Merryl Strip (sp?) in it, and its made in the US I guess. But its one of those independent movies crushing Hollywood. VERY funny! ;)

Antonio Banderas used to a great actor while he was working with Almodovar. Then he decided he would be the king of the teens. :p Stupid idiot.

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Vera


Makes me curious what James Joyce writes.
Okay, I also don't want to be associated with ppl who read all those junks sci-fi books. I only read the classic like Dune and though Lord of the Rings is not sci-fi, but fantasy also my fave.

Trust me, you don't want to know. ;)

I love sci-fi books and movies. And Dune and Lord of the Rings are phenomenal books. I've read Lord of the Rings three times. :o

Vera
09-14-2002, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by hitman
Vera, the name of the movie is "demented forever". It has Merryl Strip (sp?) in it, and its made in the US I guess. But its one of those independent movies crushing Hollywood. VERY funny! ;)

Antonio Banderas used to a great actor while he was working with Almodovar. Then he decided he would be the king of the teens. :p Stupid idiot.

Oops, apparently never heard of it. But I'll check it out. And you are right about Banderas, I only watched his pre-american era movies.

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by hitman
Vera, the name of the movie is "demented forever". It has Merryl Strip (sp?) in it, and its made in the US I guess. But its one of those independent movies crushing Hollywood. VERY funny! ;)

Antonio Banderas used to a great actor while he was working with Almodovar. Then he decided he would be the king of the teens. :p Stupid idiot.

Thanks for the info, but I'm not sure it's available where I live. :(

I couldn't agree with you more about Banderas. :rolleyes: But that's the fate of many players. :(

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Makes me curious what James Joyce writes.
Okay, I also don't want to be associated with ppl who read all those junks sci-fi books. I only read the classic like Dune and though Lord of the Rings is not sci-fi, but fantasy also my fave.

He wrote:
A Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man
Dubliners
Finnegan's Wake
and that horrible poem "Ulysses"

Vera
09-14-2002, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Layla


Thanks for the info, but I'm not sure it's available where I live. :(

I couldn't agree with you more about Banderas. :rolleyes: But that's the fate of many players. :(

Ya, so I still love Ewan McGregor. Though he did decide to be on Star Trek which I don't blame him.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by hitman
Vera, the name of the movie is "demented forever". It has Merryl Strip (sp?) in it, and its made in the US I guess. But its one of those independent movies crushing Hollywood. VERY funny! ;)

US title: Cecil B. Demented, a play on Cecil B. Deville, who was a popular moviemaker in the 30s/40s/50s, I believe?

Vera
09-14-2002, 01:25 AM
I mean Star War. If he's on Star Trek, I'll kill myself.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I love sci-fi books and movies. And Dune and Lord of the Rings are phenomenal books. I've read Lord of the Rings three times. :o

I like fantasy more than sci-fi but have never read "the classics" like Lord of the Rings. Again, so much to read, so little time to read them.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Ya, so I still love Ewan McGregor. Though he did decide to be on Star Trek which I don't blame him.

Ewan McGregor has done enough "indie" movies, and good movies, to overshadow his foray into the totally commercialised Star Wars franchise (which, for the record, should have been left alone in 1983).

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:29 AM
I'm going to bed guys! It's way past my bedtime. ;)

I don't want to leave in the middle of a debate :( but I'm afraid I'm just too sleepy. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/yawnface.gif

Good night! :wavey: http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/sleeping.gif

Vera
09-14-2002, 01:31 AM
Well, nite Layla.

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:31 AM
Geesh, I had the whole lyrics translated and then my computer crashed when I clicked on post. :mad: :mad: :fiery:
Im sorry. Ill do it again as soon as I can. :p

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Ewan McGregor has done enough "indie" movies, and good movies, to overshadow his foray into the totally commercialised Star Wars franchise (which, for the record, should have been left alone in 1983).

But I can't go to bed before agreeing with both of the above. :D

I can't even bring myself to watch the latest Star Wars movie. I fell asleep during the trailer. :rolleyes:

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by hitman
Geesh, I had the whole lyrics translated and then my computer crashed when I clicked on post. :mad: :mad: :fiery:
Im sorry. Ill do it again as soon as I can. :p

It happens to me all the time, so whenever my message is long (often enough :o ) I copy it before I post it. ;)

But thanks anyway. :) Looking forward to it whenever you get it done. :)

Vera
09-14-2002, 01:35 AM
Ha, I wasn't any better than you Layla, I fell asleep when watching Star Wars II. I seriously don't understand why George Lucas did such a bad job. The film lacks coherent, and the acting is bad. And even McGregor looks so out of place being Obi-Wan.

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:36 AM
I did copy it before posting...
But my computer froze. I had to reboot, so then so long for the copy. :p

Im doing it again right now. It should be done in a couple minutes. :)

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:38 AM
Nighty night, Layla!

We are quite active tonight, as compared to last night :)

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:41 AM
O Pastor
The Shepherd

Ai que ninguém volta
Ao que já deixou
Ninguém larga a grande roda
Ninguém sabe onde é que andou
Ai que ninguém lembra
Nem o que sonhou
E aquele menino canta
A cantiga do pastor

Nobody comes back
To what they already left
Nobody drops the big wheel
Nobody knows where its been
Nobody remembers
Neither what they dreamed
And that boy sings
The shepherd´s song

Ao largo
Ainda arde
A barca
Da fantasia
E o meu sonho acaba tarde
Deixa a alma de vigia
Ao largo
Ainda arde
E o meu sonho acaba tarde
Acordar é que eu não queria

Out at the sea
Still burns
The boat
Of fantasy
And my dream lasts long
Leave my soul watching
Out at the sea
Still burns
And my dream lasts long
Wake up is what I wish not.

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:42 AM
There ya go. Something may seem to not make total sense, and thats coz Portugal Portuguese is different from Brazil Portuguese... :p I did my best. :D

Layla
09-14-2002, 01:44 AM
Awww thank you so much Hitman. :)

What a perfect song to go to sleep with. And their lyrics are just as melancholy as their music. I have most of their albums. :)

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:48 AM
Hmm, do I smell a song possibility for the story?

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:49 AM
Its pretty good. :)
And it reminds me of that kick-ass series.
Damn, I wish the tv station would put it out on a dvd case special. I would buy for sure. :sad:
I read the book as well, and its HIGHLY recommended if you like melancholy. :D Remember, The Mayas, from Eça de Queiroz. :D

Dissident
09-14-2002, 01:52 AM
Ill have to leave now for some time. I guess Ill be back later on.
Bye bye all and thanks for the chat, for now! :wavey:

Vera
09-14-2002, 01:55 AM
Bye! I gotta to head for dinner too. :wavey:

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 01:58 AM
Goodnight, hitty and Vera :wavey:

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 02:01 AM
I see you, Leo! ;)

Leo7
09-14-2002, 02:09 AM
hey Hackie!:wavey:

i was just checking out the new pics!:D

Leo7
09-14-2002, 02:50 AM
where'd you go, sweetie? :confused:

i'm all alone!:eek:

Leo7
09-14-2002, 02:51 AM
1815

Leo7
09-14-2002, 02:51 AM
1816

Leo7
09-14-2002, 02:52 AM
1817

Leo7
09-14-2002, 02:53 AM
1818

:D

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 06:50 PM
Hey, Leo :wavey: No one was around last night, that's why I left.

Tsk tsk, counting down your posts.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 06:56 PM
ZHENYA WON!!!!

He defeated Vladimir 7-6, 7-5. I was looking at the scores thread and it sounded like he won on a wing and a prayer because he was making tons of unforced errors. :( I hope this doesn't pop up in Davis Cup.

But still--HE WON!!!! :D:D:D

ILR
09-14-2002, 06:58 PM
lol good 4 Zhenya :bounce: :bounce:

Hey TH :wavey:

Leo,counting down ur posts!lol ur so cheeky! ;)

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 08:19 PM
Guga also won today, and made his way back into the Top 50 :)

Leo7
09-14-2002, 09:31 PM
GO GUGA! i had no idea he fell so low in the rankings! well, one more match and the Brasil Open 2002 will be his!

:bounce: Kuerten :bounce:

Leo7
09-14-2002, 09:33 PM
btw, i'm shocked about Kaf! i thought he was gonna pull out b/c of the injury. but i'm happy for him. i hope he can win Davis Cup and go out in style, something Pat couldn't do!:(

Good luck to Russia in DC! and France! ;)

ILR
09-14-2002, 09:42 PM
Go Swiss!lol.Go Rogi! Hiya Leo,how was the film?did u enjoy yourself?

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
GO GUGA! i had no idea he fell so low in the rankings! well, one more match and the Brasil Open 2002 will be his!

:bounce: Kuerten :bounce:

Indeed, he was down to #75 at one point, I remember. But it will be easy for him to boost his ranking because this time last year he was on the downward slide.

Good luck in the final, Guga dear! :D

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
btw, i'm shocked about Kaf! i thought he was gonna pull out b/c of the injury. but i'm happy for him. i hope he can win Davis Cup and go out in style, something Pat couldn't do!:(

Good luck to Russia in DC! and France! ;)

This is why I love Zhenya :kiss: Apparently he just dislocated his finger. Do you know how? BLOCKING A SERVE FROM PARADORN! :eek::eek:

But he has won his second title of the year, and I couldn't be happier :) Especially if this is his last year of play, I want to savor every moment.

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 10:10 PM
The upcoming DC ties (9/20-22)

Semis:
USA vs France
Russia vs Argentina

Qualifying Group:
Australia vs India
Zimbabwe vs Belgium
Brazil vs Canada :eek: (Canada?!)
Germany vs Venezuela
Great Britian vs Thailand
Finland vs the Netherlands
Slovak Republic vs Romania
Morraco vs Switzerland

TennisHack
09-14-2002, 10:12 PM
Go:
USA! (James Blake!)
Russia! (all of them, especially Yevgeny)
Finland! (Jarkko is leading the team this year :kiss:es)
Switzerland! (mmm Michel :drool: )

LOL at myself :D

Vera
09-15-2002, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
The upcoming DC ties (9/20-22)


Qualifying Group:

Brazil vs Canada :eek: (Canada?!)


Hehehe. Ya, really, I was shocked to see that too.:D What an honor for our boys to play against Guga:) I'm sure though it's gonna be a target practice for the Brazilian team. (In case you are curious, our highest ranked single player is 225 in Entry System, the next highest ranked, 466 :eek: :o :sad:

My best of luck to the French and Russians, but hope French will win it all. Go Seb!!!:bounce:

Vera
09-15-2002, 12:58 AM
BTW, Canada, a proud hockey nation, not so proud when we suck in every other sports that's not played on ice. :) :o Sad as there's never ever gonna be an ATP event play here in the West Coast ever. :sad: :sad: :sad:

Leo7
09-15-2002, 01:15 AM
Vera, who is the Canadian ranked at 225?

Leo7
09-15-2002, 01:16 AM
where was layla today? i didn't think it was possible for her to go a whole day without ATPworld! :eek:

Vera
09-15-2002, 02:35 AM
Canada's DC team -
Players and their single ranking:
Federic Niemeyer 225
Frank Dancevic 466
Simon Larose 577
Daniel Nestor 676

BUT, incidentally, Nestor is indeed the no. 1 ranked double player in the world. So I guess we do have hope of not receiving a big O bagel at the end.

Vera
09-15-2002, 02:57 AM
BTW, just finished catching up with the tennis news today and read what Yevgeny said on his victory speech. He said he wouldn't have won but he made a promise last year that he'll take the title... Anyway, he always got the unfair share of criticism from others (the like of Johnny Mc) but I think he's great. And the man keeps his promise, like he said he will win the Aussie Open that year and he did, he said the most important thing is to win the Olympic Single so he did. And now, Tashkent, not the biggest event in the world but he kept his promise again.

So I just changed my mind and wish that Russia will win the DC title. I'm still sad for Pat not winning DC last year and don't want that to happen to Yevgeny. France can wait.

Leo7
09-15-2002, 03:46 AM
Kafelnikov Overcomes Voltchkov, Pain to Win Tashkent Title
Russian star wins second title of 2002, 26th of career.
Finalists Kafelnikov and Voltchkov don traditional Uzbek garb for the Tashkent trophy ceremony.

Third-seeded Yevgeny Kafelnikov claimed his second singles title of 2002, and 26th tournament win in his impressive career, by defeating qualifier Vladimir Voltchkov of Belarus, 7-6(6), 7-5, in the President's Cup finals in Tashkent on Saturday. The win will likely help turn around what has been a disappointing year for the Russian, who has slumped to No. 30 in the ATP Champions Race.

The 28-year-old Kafelnikov was appearing in the finals at Tashkent for the third time, but earned his first win at the event (l. 1998 to Henman, l. 2001 to Safin). His 26 career tournament titles place him fourth all-time among active players (behind Sampras, Agassi and Chang), and this week's win was his ninth hardcourt title, including the 1999 Australian Open and 2000 Sydney Olympics.

Kafelnikov said he felt a great deal of pain during the match from an injury to his finger suffered during his semifinal against Thailand's Paradorn Srichaphan. In that match, Kafelnikov had dislocated the fourth finger of his left hand when trying to block a body serve of Srichaphan. The pain hampered Kafelnikov's ability to hit his two-handed backhand.

Voltchkov, 24, had never before reached the finals of an ATP event. His strong showing in Tashkent - where he lost an average of only four games per match en route to the finals - improves his 2002 record to 8-4 on the circuit. He won the Manchester Challenger event on grass earlier this year.

What the Players Said:

Kafelnikov: "I still had a lot of pain and I didn't think I would finish the match if it was not a final, playing in front of so many people, including the president of Uzbekistan."

"I think Vladimir deserved to win this final and if it wasn't played in Tashkent, he probably would have won, but I made a promise to the president and all the fans." (Kafelnikov promised last year to win the title in his finalist speech)

"This title is very special for me. I wouldn't trade it for any other in the world, even a grand slam."

On Voltchkov's tactic of playing to his injury-hampered backhand: "That was perfectly fine with me. There are no gentlemen on the courts. I would have done the same thing probably."

On next week's Davis Cup semifinal vs. Argentina: "I am not sure whether I will be able to play in the Davis Cup tie. There is no time to rest now. I have already booked a practice session for 10:00 am tomorrow morning."

Voltchkov: "It was my first final and I think I was just too nervous to tell you the truth. On the other hand, Yevgeny has a lot of experience playing important finals and I think it showed in the end."

"My game plan was to play to his backhand. To be honest with you, I knew of his injury and I wanted to use it to my advantage. If he was seriously injured, he would have defaulted and if he didn't, then it was ok for me to play like that."

Leo7
09-15-2002, 03:48 AM
i'm with Vera. GO RUSSIA! win it for Yevgeny! ;)

TennisHack
09-15-2002, 05:16 AM
Zhenya :kiss: I love him :o But he can't be saying stuff like this:

Originally posted by Leo7
On next week's Davis Cup semifinal vs. Argentina: "I am not sure whether I will be able to play in the Davis Cup tie. There is no time to rest now. I have already booked a practice session for 10:00 am tomorrow morning."

:eek::eek: He HAS to play!!!!

On Layla: could it be--could she have finally found a life?! That'd make me sad :sad: because then I'd be the queen dorkess.

Leo7
09-15-2002, 04:51 PM
layla found a life?! :eek: that wouldn't make you the queen dorkness, Hackie. i have more posts!

Vera
09-15-2002, 07:02 PM
Layla, is not that we aren't happy for you!:bounce:

C'mon guys, we come here day and night, read other's posts and write our own, chat with other in the cyberspace, doesn't mean that we don't have a life.

Oh, wait a minute, I think it does! :o

Hehe, I may not post as often as you guys, but I felt that I'm the dorkiest at heart. Posting at a sunday afternoon:rolleyes:

ILR
09-15-2002, 07:58 PM
Gee I miss Layla.I wonder where she is?Hope she posts soon!

TennisHack
09-15-2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
layla found a life?! :eek: that wouldn't make you the queen dorkness, Hackie. i have more posts!

LOL at Leo. Okay, you can be the Queen Dorkness.

Nacho
09-15-2002, 09:12 PM
Hi guys!

I'm just shocked about David Ferrer's win at Bucharest! It's amazing, because it was only his 4th ATP tournament! And don't forget that he also reached the final at Umag!

TennisHack
09-15-2002, 09:20 PM
Nacho, I was shocked and surprised myself--but very, very happy.

He took four challenger titles earlier in the year, and he's taken his first professional title. That's quite an accomplishment.

I knew I had my eye on him for a reason, LOL ;)

Nacho
09-15-2002, 09:49 PM
Lol, there's something about the Ferrer(o)s ;)

TennisHack
09-15-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Nacho
Lol, there's something about the Ferrer(o)s ;)

:o

Chloe le Bopper
09-15-2002, 10:44 PM
How old is Ferrer?

Chloe le Bopper
09-15-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Canada's DC team -
Players and their single ranking:
Federic Niemeyer 225
Frank Dancevic 466
Simon Larose 577
Daniel Nestor 676

BUT, incidentally, Nestor is indeed the no. 1 ranked double player in the world. So I guess we do have hope of not receiving a big O bagel at the end.

Nestor's singles ranking is only so low because he doesn't focus on singles as much anymore - he is better than that though :o

Regardless, we would have had a much better chance had we played in Canada indoors or something. But even then, Guga is healthy so I'm not sure it'd have mattered.

Why oh why did we have to draw Brazil :fiery:

TennisHack
09-15-2002, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
How old is Ferrer?

20.

TennisHack
09-15-2002, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Why oh why did we have to draw Brazil :fiery:

How oh how did you manage to make it to the world group qualifying round?!

Vera
09-15-2002, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca


Nestor's singles ranking is only so low because he doesn't focus on singles as much anymore - he is better than that though :o

Regardless, we would have had a much better chance had we played in Canada indoors or something. But even then, Guga is healthy so I'm not sure it'd have mattered.

Why oh why did we have to draw Brazil :fiery:

I figure that. Nestor only played in one tourney, TMS Canada because he got a wild card. But he is a okay single player. Still remembered that he beat Pat in Olympic single in Sydney, and still mad at him for that.

When I first saw that we played Brazil, a gleam of hope went through my mind that maybe it will be played in Western Canada. Ya, in my dream!!!

Vera
09-16-2002, 01:15 AM
Rebecca, do you know what happen to Sebastien Lareau? Did he retire?

Vera
09-16-2002, 01:26 AM
Davis Cup result:

American Zone Group I - 2nd Round
5-7 April 2002

Canada defeated Chile 5-0
Venue: The Corral, Calgary, Canada
Surface: Carpet ¡V indoors

Daniel Nestor (CAN) d. Marcelo Rios (CHI) 76(1) 67(2) 63 16 75
Frederic Niemeyer (CAN) d. Fernando Gonzalez (CHI) 67(2) 76(2) 46 63 64
Daniel Nestor/ Frederic Niemeyer (CAN) d. Fernando Gonzalez/Hermes Gamonal (CHI) 63 60 62
Frank Dancevic (CAN) d. Guillermo Hormazabal (CHI) 61 64
Simon Larose (CAN) d. Hermes Gamonal (CHI) 63 76(5)

American Zone Group I, First Round
8-10 February 2002

Canada defeated Mexico 4-1
Venue: Rim Park, Ontario, Canada
Surface; Carpet - indoors

Frederic Niemeyer (CAN) d. Alejandro Hernandez (MEX) 57 63 64 75
Daniel Nestor (CAN) d. Miguel Gallardo (MEX) 63 64 60
Daniel Nestor/Frederic Niemeyer (CAN) d. Santiago Gonzalez/Alejandro Hernandez (MEX) 61 61 61
Miguel Gallardo (MEX) d. Frank Dancevic (CAN) 63 60
Simon Larose (CAN) d. Santiago Gonzalez (MEX) 67(5) 62 62

Wow! Shame on me for looking down on our boys.
I guess the Entry system ranking really doesn't mean much in Davis Cup!

Okay, now maybe we do have a chance, though it's a long stretch on Clay in Rio.

Leo7
09-16-2002, 01:39 AM
Ferrer has had some really good wins this year. it will certrainly be confusing on the ATP now that there is a Ferrer, along with Ferrero and Ferreira!lol!

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 03:09 AM
Hmm, a second straight day without Layla. Anybody else confused and/or worried?

Leo7
09-16-2002, 03:21 AM
i'm a bit worried too!:( but she was able to put in her predictions over the weekend for the ATP prediciton Game, so at least i know she's out there somewhere and can get onto the Net. but i'm surprised she has gone two full days without ATPworld!:eek: :(

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 03:34 AM
Well, I know she's been around here, because I still had tracking on an old PM and it said she hit the site sometime on Saturday.

I hope she's not ignoring us :o:(

Leo7
09-16-2002, 03:36 AM
:sad:

come back Layla!

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 03:37 AM
:sad::sad::sad:

Leo7
09-16-2002, 03:43 AM
yes, let's cry together. :sad:

maybe i should send her a pm. ?

Leo7
09-16-2002, 03:54 AM
:wavey: Hackie! i'm going to bed!

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 04:00 AM
Good night, Leo :wavey:

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 04:05 AM
Still sad.

:sad::sad::sad:

Chloe le Bopper
09-16-2002, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


How oh how did you manage to make it to the world group qualifying round?!

Well that is a mystery in itself ;)

Rios is a basketcase on court, and lost to Nestor. I'm not sure what happened to GOnzalez though.

The indoor carpet is what did them in I suppose.

Chloe le Bopper
09-16-2002, 06:10 AM
Where the heck is RIm Park, Ontario?

i'm not sure I ever want to go to somewhere named "rim park" :p

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:42 AM
Hi guys! :wavey:

No need to fight for my crown, I'm back!!! :p

I was kidnapped by a gorgeous billionaire who took me to Venice for the weekend. :D I swear I'm telling the truth. http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/angels/newangel.gif

Seriously though, I didn't mean to alarm anybody or make you sad. :sad: I'm soooo sorry about that. :o And of course I'm not ignoring you lol. Why on earth would I want to do that? http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/huhh.gif I look forward to our chats every day. :) http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/chatter.gif

Group hug? http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/grouphug.gif ;)

Ok, on Saturday I was swamped with work and I had an unbelievably crappy day. I didn't feel like talking, or bringing anyone down for that matter.

On Sunday I went on a hiking trip and then to a party at a friend's house. I didn't get back until 1 am and I only logged on to send points for a new game I'm playing, then went straight to bed, because I was exhausted. But I had a great time. :D A bit of fresh air was just what I needed after spending the second half of this rainy, cold summer inside. It was a gorgeous sunny day, but quite nippy. In fact, it's so cold here that I need an extra blanket at night and still I freeze my butt off. Where is that Indian summer they promised us? :confused:

Me get a life?!? LMAO! http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/yellolaugh.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/Sad pano lol.gif http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/rotfl.gif No need to worry about that, it's not gonna happen! :p

But thanks for the vote of confidence guys. :rolleyes: ;) :D

Mrs. B
09-16-2002, 11:46 AM
Hi, Layla!

It's good to see u back here. It's not the same without you.

big hugs!

:)

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:49 AM
And I'm incredibly happy for this week's winners. Congrats to

KAFELNIKOV, GUGA AND FERRER

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

But how will we survive this week without tournaments. :confused: :(

Btw, I have an important question. I was wondering if you can see the special font I used for the names in this post, or does it only appear on my computer?

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:52 AM
Hi Mrs. B! :wavey:

It's good to see you again. :D *hugs* http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/hug.gif

How was your weekend?

Mrs. B
09-16-2002, 11:56 AM
Yes, your fonts are bigger... (?)

I'm fine. We also had sunny blue skies here in CH over the weekend. Would u believe i bought a David Gray CD because i kept hearing the name from u? I was not disappointed. Thanks!
:)

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:59 AM
No I didn't mean just bigger. I used a wacky font that looks completely different. Can you see it?

How about this one:

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO

Layla
09-16-2002, 12:03 PM
Awww, you bought a David Gray CD! :D Which one? I hope you enjoyed it. I wake up to it almost every morning. I use the alarm clock on my stereo because I like to be woken up by a song instead of annying beeping sounds. ;)

I'm in a singing mood again! :)


This years love had better last
Heaven knows it's high time
And I've been waiting on my own too long
But when you hold me like you do
It feels so right
I start to forget
How my heart gets torn
When that hurt gets thrown
Feeling like you can't go on

Turning circles when time again
It cuts like a knife oh yeah
If you love me got to know for sure
Cos it takes something more this time
Than sweet sweet lies
Before I open up my arms and fall
Losing all control
Every dream inside my soul
And when you kiss me
On that midnight street
Sweep me off my feet
Singing ain't this life so sweet

This years love had better last
This years love had better last

So whose to worry
If our hearts get torn
When that hurt gets thrown
Don't you know this life goes on
And won't you kiss me
On that midnight street
Sweep me off my feet
Singing ain't this life so sweet

This years love had better last
This years love had better last
This years love had better last
This years love had better last

Mrs. B
09-16-2002, 12:11 PM
:)

Yeas, i bought the White Ladder album, i thought as a newbie i would start with this one. Boy, i love his voice. And i love the acoustic guitars in the background....give me time and i'll sing it with u. ;)

gotta go, will be back later tonight. As it's Monday the movies are cheaper here and there's less people in the afternoons. Unfortunatley i'm not such a good film reviewer like u but i'll share my mediocre thoughts with u later. Ciao!

Mrs. B
09-16-2002, 12:13 PM
nope, i don't see it...

Layla
09-16-2002, 12:15 PM
Bye! :wavey:

Enjoy the movie! :) And please share your thought with us. They are far from mediocre. :) Talk to you later.

Layla
09-16-2002, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
nope, i don't see it...

:(

All this time I was fooling around with different fonts (I love fonts :D ) and no one could see them? Bummer... :(

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Layla
No need to fight for my crown, I'm back!!! :p

Damn!

Welcome back, Layla :) As you can see you were the talk of the thread! Maybe I should disappear for a few days . . . ;)

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Layla
But how will we survive this week without tournaments. :confused: :(

What do you mean? We always have Davis Cup!!


Btw, I have an important question. I was wondering if you can see the special font I used for the names in this post, or does it only appear on my computer?

I can see that it's bigger, but unless you were going for a really stoic font, it doesn't look really different.

But I agree, yay Guga, Zhenya, and David :) When's the last time you were happy with all of the winners in the same week?

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Layla
:(

All this time I was fooling around with different fonts (I love fonts :D ) and no one could see them? Bummer... :(

I, too, like fonts. I used to belong to a message board where we would exchange them. Everyone used the new fonts in their signatures, so we'd all have to go and download them if we wanted to see the siggys correctly :D I had about 400 fonts then.

Now, I can't find a lot of shareware or freeware fonts. I'm too cheap to buy them, LOL ;)

Leo7
09-16-2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Hi guys! :wavey:

No need to fight for my crown, I'm back!!! :p

I was kidnapped by a gorgeous billionaire who took me to Venice for the weekend. :D I swear I'm telling the truth. http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/angels/newangel.gif

Seriously though, I didn't mean to alarm anybody or make you sad. :sad: I'm soooo sorry about that. :o And of course I'm not ignoring you lol. Why on earth would I want to do that? http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/huhh.gif I look forward to our chats every day. :) http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/chatter.gif

Group hug? http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/grouphug.gif ;)

Ok, on Saturday I was swamped with work and I had an unbelievably crappy day. I didn't feel like talking, or bringing anyone down for that matter.

On Sunday I went on a hiking trip and then to a party at a friend's house. I didn't get back until 1 am and I only logged on to send points for a new game I'm playing, then went straight to bed, because I was exhausted. But I had a great time. :D A bit of fresh air was just what I needed after spending the second half of this rainy, cold summer inside. It was a gorgeous sunny day, but quite nippy. In fact, it's so cold here that I need an extra blanket at night and still I freeze my butt off. Where is that Indian summer they promised us? :confused:



Layla is back!:bounce:

can i get in on the group hug? :D

that's too bad you didn't find yourself a life, we were cheering for ya. but i'm glad you had fun on your hiking trip. that must have been so exciting. at my school, i joined the outdoors club and we go hiking, caving, and kayaking. :)

:kiss:

Layla
09-16-2002, 03:23 PM
Hi Leo! :wavey:

Of course you can get in on the group hug. :D *hug*

Yes, I did have fun. I love hiking (when I'm in shape :o ) and I love the views even more. :D Our mountains are pretty high.

But caving, now that sounds really interesting. I've always wanted to go caving. There so many fantastic caves in Slovenia. Unfortunately I could never found anyone who would share the same interest and going to a cave alone is not always the best idea in the world. ;) I wish we had a club like that at school.

Leo7
09-16-2002, 03:28 PM
:wavey: Layla! i've been trying to find you!

btw, i can see your new fonts. ;)

Layla
09-16-2002, 03:38 PM
:bounce:

Finally, someone can see my fonts. :D

Leo7
09-16-2002, 03:44 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

you better watch out, Daniel is looking to pass you up in the post count! ;)

Layla
09-16-2002, 03:48 PM
OMG! So he is! :eek: I could lose my place in the top 5. http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/scream.gif

Thanks for the warning. ;) No more slacking for me. :D

ILR
09-16-2002, 04:17 PM
lol.Aw man I missed the group hug........:(

Layla
09-16-2002, 04:22 PM
No you didn't. It's an ongoing hug. :D ;)

ILR
09-16-2002, 04:23 PM
Oh rite.Thats cool then!What a good idea! :)

Layla
09-16-2002, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


What do you mean? We always have Davis Cup!!


Yes, but that' only at the end of the week.

GO FRANCE!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/flagg.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/46159-5.gif



GO RUSSIA!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Mrs. B
09-16-2002, 04:52 PM
http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/flags/switz.gif

HOPP, SCHWEIZ!!!!!!!

:)

ILR
09-16-2002, 04:55 PM
lol @ Mrs.B I knew ud do that! :)

Mrs. B
09-16-2002, 05:04 PM
Yes, luv, my weekend's booked for the Swiss DC team in Morocco.

;)

ILR
09-16-2002, 05:05 PM
Ur going?

Layla
09-16-2002, 05:28 PM
Oooops, I almost forgot!

GO SLOVENIA!!! :bounce:

GO GREAT BRITAIN!!! :bounce:

ILR
09-16-2002, 05:35 PM
I forgot my own country!Well I didnt forget.........

GO GREAT BRITAIN AND THE SWISS BOYS!

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 05:37 PM
Ah, Davis Cup :)

I could see your "Go Russia" font! ;)

Mrs. B, are you going to the tie? That would be SOOOO awesome! You'd have to tell me every little detail, LOL.

I'm going to be watching the American-French tie so I can brush up on my C.Dri & PMac. It's about time for the boys in the story to start playing again, dontcha think? LOL, maybe by the time we know why Layla is divorcing Juan Carlos, I'll have some commentary prepared! ;)

Great Britian is getting weaker by the moment--Rusedski out, Henman hanging on by a prayer. Thailand might prevail under the leadership of Paradorn.

The most interesting tie for me, though, will be Finland-Netherlands. Jarkko against Sjeng! :o I wish I could see that one instead :(

Mrs. B
09-16-2002, 05:57 PM
Opps, no, i'm not going, i wanted to but the trip will cost me my rt ticket for the islands come winter. Besides i already purchased tickets for the Swiss Indoors in Basel. But i'll definitely watch it on tv like the rest of Switzerland. ;)

Hackie, a friend of mine here saw Michel K. in town two days ago. Guess he's taking it easy at the moment. I play tennis at his parent's center in the winter time, a five minute drive from our flat.

Layla
09-16-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Great Britian is getting weaker by the moment--Rusedski out, Henman hanging on by a prayer. Thailand might prevail under the leadership of Paradorn.

The most interesting tie for me, though, will be Finland-Netherlands. Jarkko against Sjeng! :o I wish I could see that one instead :(

What do you mean Rusedski's out? :confused: Is there something I should know about? :eek:

Wow, I would love to see Jarkko against Sjeng. :bounce: Tall, lanky Nordic guys battling it out. Mmmmm.

Leo7
09-16-2002, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Layla


What do you mean Rusedski's out? :confused: Is there something I should know about? :eek:

Wow, I would love to see Jarkko against Sjeng. :bounce: Tall, lanky Nordic guys battling it out. Mmmmm.

Rusedksi out of Davis Cup
Rusedski has opened the door for Parmar or Lee

Britain's Davis Cup hopes suffered a massive blow when Greg Rusedski pulled out with a heel injury.
Rusedski picked up the injury during his US Open third-round defeat to Pete Sampras.

Britain meet Thailand in a qualifying match to return to the World Group on Friday.

But with Rusedski absent, and British number one Tim Henman rating his chances of making the tie "no more than 50-50", the prospects look far from good.

Henman is still struggling with the shoulder injury that hampered him during the US Open earlier this month.

I'd be stupid to take any unnecessary risks

Tim Henman
If Henman is forced to pull out, Great Britain skipper Roger Taylor will have to call on Martin Lee and Arvind Parmar to shoulder the challenge.
"At the moment my chances are no more than 50-50," said Henman.

"The arm feels a lot stronger than when I flew home from New York - but I haven't hit a ball yet and I'd be stupid to take any unnecessary risks.

"I play tennis for fun and things had not been at all enjoybale during my time in the States.

"It was tough for me to be positive."

Thailand have only one player ranked in the world's top 200, but the form of world number 31 Paradorn Srichaphan is of concern to the British team.

He beat Andre Agassi at Wimbledon, won his first tournament in August and has been steadily rising up the rankings all year.

ILR
09-16-2002, 07:03 PM
Aw man I guess were not gonna do very well this year......:sad:

Leo7
09-16-2002, 07:07 PM
cheer up, my love! at least Roger and Switzerland will win for you! ;) :kiss:

ILR
09-16-2002, 07:10 PM
OK Ill cheer up. :D Yeh the Swiss boys will win.I know it.And I know Rogi will win! :)

Layla
09-16-2002, 07:11 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad:

This wasn't supposed to happen. Poor Tim. He must be pretty miserable. Well at least he has the baby to look forward to.

Leo7
09-16-2002, 07:25 PM
and he has a beautiful wife :)

Layla
09-16-2002, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
and he has a beautiful wife :)

He does. I really like her a lot. She's probably my favorite tennis wife/girlfriend. :)

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
Opps, no, i'm not going, i wanted to but the trip will cost me my rt ticket for the islands come winter. Besides i already purchased tickets for the Swiss Indoors in Basel. But i'll definitely watch it on tv like the rest of Switzerland. ;)

Hackie, a friend of mine here saw Michel K. in town two days ago. Guess he's taking it easy at the moment. I play tennis at his parent's center in the winter time, a five minute drive from our flat.

Ooh, Basel ;) That's just as great as Davis Cup, but then, all live tennis is great!! Well, give me a report anyway, since American coverage is so damn baised :rolleyes: Please?

Michel :lick: Did anyone ever find out what sort of injury he had? As in muscle spasm, etc. Good to know he's being careful and taking care of it. I hope he does well for DC. His record isn't exactly stellar.

And I can't begin to tell you how jealous I am that you live 5 minutes from his parents' tennis center. :eek:

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Wow, I would love to see Jarkko against Sjeng. :bounce: Tall, lanky Nordic guys battling it out. Mmmmm.

Mmhm. :drool:

The Netherlands will probably win, as Jarkko is the #1 Finn by a really long shot. I think the Dutch team is a bit stronger. Either way, that tie will kick ass. :D

I sometimes wonder if my adoration for my guys is fueled by the fact that I don't get to see them very often. I find myself cheering for their potential opponents so they will get some TV time. :o

Layla
09-16-2002, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack

I sometimes wonder if my adoration for my guys is fueled by the fact that I don't get to see them very often. I find myself cheering for their potential opponents so they will get some TV time. :o

LOL! I know exactly what you mean. I find myself doing the same thing all the time. Since the Masters can only be seen on DSF, a German sports channel and that only includes an hour of highlights (they usually pick two matches), I was deliriously happy when Juanqui was set to play in Rainer Schüttler in Rome. Well, Rainer also happens to be one of my faves, but that's beside the point. And guess what happens. Rainer retired so DSF opted not to show this match and only showed the point where they shook hands. :rolleyes:

But in Monte Carlo he played Tommy Haas and that match was a guarantee. :D

I wish I could see more players that I like, Olivier Rochus, Tommy Robredo, Sebastien Grosjean...

It seems that I just keep seeing the same faces over and over again. :(

Layla
09-16-2002, 08:00 PM
Hey TH! Can you write me a business horoscope? ;) I'm all out of ideas. :(

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Hey TH! Can you write me a business horoscope? ;) I'm all out of ideas. :(

LOL!! What does a business horoscope entail?

I must warn you, astrology is not my strong suit. At all ;)

Mrs. B
09-16-2002, 08:06 PM
Layla, i hate DSF!!! They showed some tennis round-ups late in the evening some time ago and they show these really stupid sex commercials! Yuck!

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Layla
LOL! I know exactly what you mean. I find myself doing the same thing all the time. Since the Masters can only be seen on DSF, a German sports channel and that only includes an hour of highlights (they usually pick two matches), I was deliriously happy when Juanqui was set to play in Rainer Schüttler in Rome. Well, Rainer also happens to be one of my faves, but that's beside the point. And guess what happens. Rainer retired so DSF opted not to show this match and only showed the point where they shook hands. :rolleyes:

But in Monte Carlo he played Tommy Haas and that match was a guarantee. :D

I wish I could see more players that I like, Olivier Rochus, Tommy Robredo, Sebastien Grosjean...

It seems that I just keep seeing the same faces over and over again. :(

I never, ever see matches without an American face unless it's one of those rare times (Wimbledon) when all of them falter. I was cheering for Andy (well, I like him anyway) and Hewitt :o in Cincy so I could see Jarkko & Michel.

I was shocked and surprised when, after the second round of Wimbly, everyone was expecting Michel to pull through to the fourth round (which he did). During the Grand Slams we see the people who are "supposed to do well" . . . sometimes. Anyway, we always see Henboy's matches at Wimbly. That was the best 3 hours of my life, especially when Michel looked like he was about to put it away.

Now that James has won a title, I'll get to see him more often than not :) And if RG was still on USA instead of ESPN :mad::mad::mad: I'd see Juan Carlos from the beginning instead of, "hey! it's the quarterfinals! I guess we should show some real contenders now!" But the others, its hit and miss.

That's what I call real dedication, LMAO :D

Layla
09-16-2002, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


LOL!! What does a business horoscope entail?

I must warn you, astrology is not my strong suit. At all ;)

LMAO! You don't have to know anything about astrology, it's just silly horoscopes, nothing to do with astrology. I'll make sure to fit it with the right sign.

A business horosope... well, anything to do with your job and career. Just make something up. ;)

Layla
09-16-2002, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
Layla, i hate DSF!!! They showed some tennis round-ups late in the evening some time ago and they show these really stupid sex commercials! Yuck!

Yeah I remember those. Gross! They were really hideous too. They found the ugliest possible women to shake their tits in front of the camera. And the blocks for commercials lasted over 5 minutes. I was so pissed off at them. :mad: Fortunately I often taped them and then fast-forwarded so I was spared some of the obscenity.

ILR
09-16-2002, 08:15 PM
LMAO @Layla!Have any of u seen any of the Dutch adverts on TV?

Layla
09-16-2002, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I never, ever see matches without an American face unless it's one of those rare times (Wimbledon) when all of them falter. I was cheering for Andy (well, I like him anyway) and Hewitt :o in Cincy so I could see Jarkko & Michel.

I was shocked and surprised when, after the second round of Wimbly, everyone was expecting Michel to pull through to the fourth round (which he did). During the Grand Slams we see the people who are "supposed to do well" . . . sometimes. Anyway, we always see Henboy's matches at Wimbly. That was the best 3 hours of my life, especially when Michel looked like he was about to put it away.

Now that James has won a title, I'll get to see him more often than not :) And if RG was still on USA instead of ESPN :mad::mad::mad: I'd see Juan Carlos from the beginning instead of, "hey! it's the quarterfinals! I guess we should show some real contenders now!" But the others, its hit and miss.

That's what I call real dedication, LMAO :D

LMAO! You cheered for Hewitt? That IS dedication.

I wish I could've seen that Wimbledon match. I was listening to it on BBC radio or the official Wimby radio, I can't remember which. I was sick to my stomach (much like Timmy). But I suppose we were rooting for different players. ;) I still don't know how Timmy managed to win that match. I heard he had to have smelling salts and he was all but down and out. At that point I was still hoping that this year he would be able to pull it off. And when Schalken almost defeated Hewitt it seemed like a real possibility, but unfortunately that scenario didn't materialize. :(

And I suppose they do have marginally more respect for Juan Carlos on Eurosport, but not much. He's just constantly ignored by everyone. :fiery: Apart from RG that is. They seemed to understand that Juanqui is a real contender from the beginning, which is why I was fortunate enough to see some of his matches against Coria and Gaudio.

Layla
09-16-2002, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
LMAO @Layla!Have any of u seen any of the Dutch adverts on TV?

No, why?

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Layla
LMAO! You cheered for Hewitt? That IS dedication.

:o

I wish I could've seen that Wimbledon match. I was listening to it on BBC radio or the official Wimby radio, I can't remember which. I was sick to my stomach (much like Timmy). But I suppose we were rooting for different players. ;) I still don't know how Timmy managed to win that match. I heard he had to have smelling salts and he was all but down and out. At that point I was still hoping that this year he would be able to pull it off. And when Schalken almost defeated Hewitt it seemed like a real possibility, but unfortunately that scenario didn't materialize. :(

I almost didn't get to see it, because TNT & NBC share coverage of Wimbly and it started while NBC was tape delayed--and after a rain delay. But, fortunately, there was another rain delay after the first or second set, so I actually saw the whole thing with a few repeats.

Indeed, Timmy was really ailing out there. I remember it quite vividly because late in the fourth set Tim did indeed call for the trainer, who gave him an extended time out with smelling salts. Everyone, all of the commentators, where like, "Tim! Give it up!" He looked like he was going to pull a Sampras and vomit right there on court.

However, it was the turning point of the match, because Michel completely fell to pieces :( I think it was a combination of being on the brink of defeating a top player, the nerves of playing on Centre Court, and the fact that, what do you do when you know your opponent is so sick he can barely stand up?

I have the entire tape, and unlike the RG final, I will probably watch it again. Michel as quite :drool:worthy that day with his long hair. And he was playing so solidly, brilliantly on some points. I think if he had the experience he would have pulled it out.


And I suppose they do have marginally more respect for Juan Carlos on Eurosport, but not much. He's just constantly ignored by everyone. :fiery: Apart from RG that is. They seemed to understand that Juanqui is a real contender from the beginning, which is why I was fortunate enough to see some of his matches against Coria and Gaudio.

Well, I suppose we must content ourselves with what we do see and wear our tapes thin. When he finally wins Roland Garros I suspect he'll get more coverage. At least, here in the States.

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Layla
LMAO! You don't have to know anything about astrology, it's just silly horoscopes, nothing to do with astrology. I'll make sure to fit it with the right sign.

A business horosope... well, anything to do with your job and career. Just make something up. ;)

Well, I see ILR helped you out today ;) but I'll keep my eyes open for some new ideas.

Layla
09-16-2002, 10:17 PM
I agree with your assessment of the Henman/Kratochvil match. It's always difficult to play against an opponent who's injured or sick. I remember Younes :fiery: saying how much harder it was playing against Juan Carlos after he injured his thigh muscle in Dubai. And what do you know, Juanqui won the next set. But unfortunately the pain was only getting worse... :(

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 10:21 PM
::sigh:: One more set, Juan Carlos, and you would have lodged your first win against Vowel Man :fiery:

This has plagued Michel in several different matches, including against Haas in Indianapolis. I'm just wondering how many matches he'll lose before he can pull himself beyond that.

RogiFan
09-16-2002, 10:23 PM
:)

Hi from RogiFan

My 2 bits' worth:

We in Canada also get pretty well the same or less coverage of tennis on TV that the US gets except for the TMS Toronto/Montreal, which we have our own coverage (not always the greatest). I am constantly let down because they usually only show Americans. If anyone else crashes out before the Qtrs, forget seeing them! Even if they go beyond the Qtrs, they reluctantly show them -- they also stilll say "Who the hell are these guys anyway???!" (DUH!!)

So the only way we get to see OUR guys, esp. the Spanish guys, even at RG, and Rogi (altho they often show Marat, whom I love), and the Sudamericanos (even tho they're doing much better than most out there now) -- is for them to go all the way to the final and preferably WIN the damn thing!

I notice that everyone everywhere deplores their TV coverage!! It's a riot! We s/all do tape trades or sth so we get the matches we really want to see.

How many fantastic Rogi, Juanqui, Alex, etc. matches am I longing to see -- they must be out there somewhere but who knows???

So much for my rant...

Have a :) day!

P.S. GO, SWISS GUYS, GO! (If SPAIN were playing, I'd be rooting for them too!!)

Layla
09-16-2002, 10:37 PM
Hi RogiFan! :wavey:

It does seem like we're all unhappy about the coverage. :( Well except for huge fans of the American players. ;) And I think for some players not even reaching the final would help. ;) They'd probably cancel the coverage to show something "more interesting".

That's why I'm even more upset when Juanqui loses in the second rounds. It's not just the disappointment of a lost match, I know I'll never get to see him. :(

The trading of tapes is a great idea but I'm not sure it can be implemented. There are different systems in Europe and in North America, which complicates things quite a bit.

There should be a free tennis channel available everywhere in the world, which would have different options so you could choose which match you wanted to see. :D And it would cover all of the tournaments. :) Oh, I'm dreaming again...

Vera
09-16-2002, 10:49 PM
Hi everyone here.

And hey Layla, I'm glad that you have a great weekend. :bounce:

Hey, RogiFan, I'm with you. But of course we both live in the same country and get the same coverage so it does no good.

I always thought that we get TSN which rebroadcast ESPN or other US stations so it's like we are just hitchhiking them, but then again, I'm sure that TSN paid big buck for the rebroadcast so I do have a right to complain about them.

BTW, I wonder if it's not because JC is playing Agassi in QF in RG, if they will bother to show him. And, Guga won French 3 times and I don't see him very often in the first week either. But of course, Andre is the contender of every single slam :rolleyes: so he's on every single match.

Vera
09-16-2002, 10:52 PM
But I do am glad that they seem to quite like Safin even in the US. So it seems they are worthy of the coverage even to the US viewers. And Roger too sometimes, cos I think Johnny Mc really like Rogi.

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:07 PM
Hi Vera! :wavey:

Yep, they never skip Andre's matches even here in Europe. :rolleyes: What can I say. In a way, I'm glad I even get to see any tennis at all. Can you imagine if tennis wasn't televised? *shudder*

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by Layla
They'd probably cancel the coverage
to show something "more interesting".


You think they joke, but some people were actually calling for that during Wimbledon. It's the first rebuttal on my website, under the commentary section. That royally pissed me off.


The trading of tapes is a great idea but I'm not sure it can be implemented. There are different systems in Europe and in North America, which complicates things quite a bit.

There should be a free tennis channel available everywhere in the world, which would have different options so you could choose which match you wanted to see. :D And it would cover all of the tournaments. :) Oh, I'm dreaming again...

Well, we are supposed to be getting the Tennis Channel in December, I think; some systems have already signed up to carry it for 10 years! :eek:

And there are places to buy tapes out there, if you don't mind paying a huge amount of money for them.

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Vera
BTW, I wonder if it's not because JC is playing Agassi in QF in RG, if they will bother to show him. And, Guga won French 3 times and I don't see him very often in the first week either. But of course, Andre is the contender of every single slam :rolleyes: so he's on every single match.

I think that's more or less the only reason why we saw that match in full. And since he faced Safin in the semis, we also saw that match in full. Only after Juan Carlos demolished Agassi did PMac acknowledge Juan Carlos as a serious contender for the crown. Jerk. :rolleyes:

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Can you imagine if tennis wasn't televised? *shudder*

They'll never stop showing Anna K's matches.

Vera
09-16-2002, 11:19 PM
Honestly, I start to appreciate Andre a bit these years. My thought is, he's more hyped in his younger years, and after rebounding from the bottom, he is a real deal. Not that he's not good when he is young, but all those hype has pushed him to a superhuman status which is annoying. But then, I really appreciate his matches against Pat in Wimbly and AO, he played great and bring the best out of Pat (of course, Pat won both Wimbly and lost AO only because he's cramping). Anyway, now I think about it, if Andre is gone someday in the future, I will have to endure Roddick, that's unbearable.

Anyway....

BTW, I love Amelie, so light-hearted, a surprisingly fresh. Makes me miss all those European movies. It cheers me up big time. :)

Vera
09-16-2002, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


And there are places to buy tapes out there, if you don't mind paying a huge amount of money for them.

Oh, do you know any? I'm dying to watch that match when JC dismantled Andre in RG. Our coverage cancelled because of the rain delay and when the next day ESPN showed that, our station is too busy showing some golf or something. Hope they don't charge a fortune.

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Oh, do you know any? I'm dying to watch that match when JC dismantled Andre in RG. Our coverage cancelled because of the rain delay and when the next day ESPN showed that, our station is too busy showing some golf or something. Hope they don't charge a fortune.

Well, there is Tennis Tapes.com (http://www.tennistapes.com), but their selection is limited. I've also worked with Sports Resources (http://www.users.bigpond.com/tennisvideos1/), but they are really expensive. This is the place that Becca was talking about way back when. I think she priced one of their videos at $40 Canadian because of the exchange rate. But they have EVERYTHING.

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I think that's more or less the only reason why we saw that match in full. And since he faced Safin in the semis, we also saw that match in full. Only after Juan Carlos demolished Agassi did PMac acknowledge Juan Carlos as a serious contender for the crown. Jerk. :rolleyes:

Oh I just remembered that the Eurosport commentator actually picked Juanqui as a conteder after his 3rd round match against Coria, so that's something. He said that there were two performances that really impressed him that day - Juan Carlos' and Agassi's. I can't tell you how happy and proud that made me. :D

Vera
09-16-2002, 11:30 PM
Hey, thanks. I'll check those out.

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Honestly, I start to appreciate Andre a bit these years. My thought is, he's more hyped in his younger years, and after rebounding from the bottom, he is a real deal. Not that he's not good when he is young, but all those hype has pushed him to a superhuman status which is annoying. But then, I really appreciate his matches against Pat in Wimbly and AO, he played great and bring the best out of Pat (of course, Pat won both Wimbly and lost AO only because he's cramping). Anyway, now I think about it, if Andre is gone someday in the future, I will have to endure Roddick, that's unbearable.

Anyway....

BTW, I love Amelie, so light-hearted, a surprisingly fresh. Makes me miss all those European movies. It cheers me up big time. :)

I don't mind Andre actually (unless he pulls a stunt like forcing a rain delay in his match against Juanqui), but I do get tired of seeing him all the time when there are so many other players I'd love to be watching.

I'm glad you enjoyed Amelie. It cheered me up too and made me feel like I could fly. :) But it is nothing like the rest of the resent European batch.

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Oh I just remembered that the Eurosport commentator actually picked Juanqui as a conteder after his 3rd round match against Coria, so that's something. He said that there were two performances that really impressed him that day - Juan Carlos' and Agassi's. I can't tell you how happy and proud that made me. :D

That's Patrick McEnroe for you :rolleyes: I remember the year before JohnnyMac had him pegged as the only person who could upset Guga.

And then there's us, who know he's a top contender at all the clay events he enters :)

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Layla
I don't mind Andre actually (unless he pulls a stunt like forcing a rain delay in his match against Juanqui), but I do get tired of seeing him all the time when there are so many other players I'd love to be watching.

This is my problem with him, too. Over exposure. And he really was a prick during his match with Juan Carlos. I guess it was in the set he won--he was trying to return serve from the service line! And we all know the only reason they left for rain was because Agassi wanted to. I'm just glad Juan Carlos didn't go off on him, because I was going off at the TV screen, LOL.

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:42 PM
Whoa :eek:

Arantxa Sanchez-Vicaro destroyed Maja today, 6-2, 6-0 at the Princess Cup.

That sucks :(

Vera
09-16-2002, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


This is my problem with him, too. Over exposure. And he really was a prick during his match with Juan Carlos. I guess it was in the set he won--he was trying to return serve from the service line! And we all know the only reason they left for rain was because Agassi wanted to. I'm just glad Juan Carlos didn't go off on him, because I was going off at the TV screen, LOL.

Juanqui is such a classy guy.
The interview after that, Andre has a lot of praise for Juanqui, saying that his game is huge, and of course, he got beaten.

Anyway, I saw the previous match when Andre beat Tommy, poor Tommy got pushed around so much and I'm so happy that JC is the one who did the pushing to Andre (without watching it, but I know that).

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:45 PM
And Tina Pisnik could meet Kimmy in the second round. :(

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:46 PM
Yeah, Leo already told me about it. :( Poor girl. But she's young and resilient. She'll bounce back.

Do you know anything about Tina?

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Juanqui is such a classy guy.


:) Reason #526 to love the boy :)

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Yeah, Leo already told me about it. :( Poor girl. But she's young and resilient. She'll bounce back.

Do you know anything about Tina?

She's playing a qualifier in the first round tomorrow, and then Kim is looming in the second round. Kimmy is seeded #3 and had a bye through :)

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


This is my problem with him, too. Over exposure. And he really was a prick during his match with Juan Carlos. I guess it was in the set he won--he was trying to return serve from the service line! And we all know the only reason they left for rain was because Agassi wanted to. I'm just glad Juan Carlos didn't go off on him, because I was going off at the TV screen, LOL.

Yep, that's our Juanqui. :) He rarely loses his cool. He had a wry smile on his face as he was leaving. He knew exactly what was going on but he was also aware that there was nothing he could do against such a "powerful force" :rolleyes: Fortunately, Andre's plan didn't work out. :D

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


She's playing a qualifier in the first round tomorrow, and then Kim is looming in the second round. Kimmy is seeded #3 and had a bye through :)

Oh no! Why do Maja and Tina always have to run up against my faves. :( But Tina defeated Kimmy not long ago, didn't she? I don't follow WTA all that avidly and I tend to forget things easily. ;)

Vera
09-16-2002, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Yeah, Leo already told me about it. :( Poor girl. But she's young and resilient. She'll bounce back.

Do you know anything about Tina?

You guys are really true tennis fan, you seems to know everything about it. I've pretty much stop watching woman tennis. I don't know about the other, but I for one am not too keen of domination, it's too predictable in the beginning of the week and the end of the week. It's okay good when it's in the SF round where the likes of Monice, Amelie, Jelena and Jenny are fighting their guts out to get a spot to try to beat the Williams.

Oh, Anna. Well, I used to like watching her. But lately, her performance is just horrible. She tanked in the Canadian Open as well as the US Open. And seeing her makes me worry that she will again embarrass herself.

Layla
09-16-2002, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Vera


Juanqui is such a classy guy.
The interview after that, Andre has a lot of praise for Juanqui, saying that his game is huge, and of course, he got beaten.

Anyway, I saw the previous match when Andre beat Tommy, poor Tommy got pushed around so much and I'm so happy that JC is the one who did the pushing to Andre (without watching it, but I know that).

I saw that match too. Poor Tommy completely fell apart. His shots weren't nearly deep or powerful enough and he was running around so much that he had to sit down between points once. I remember Andre waiting impatiently on the other end, not even slightly out of breath.

I'm glad Juan Carlos showed him what the Spaniards can do. ;)

TennisHack
09-16-2002, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Oh no! Why do Maja and Tina always have to run up against my faves. :( But Tina defeated Kimmy not long ago, didn't she? I don't follow WTA all that avidly and I tend to forget things easily. ;)

I have no idea, let me check.

She lost in the quarters at 's-Hertogenbosch to Tina. The most recent defeat by a Slovene came at Katarina Srebotnik's hands, in LA.

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Vera
You guys are really true tennis fan, you seems to know everything about it. I've pretty much stop watching woman tennis. I don't know about the other, but I for one am not too keen of domination, it's too predictable in the beginning of the week and the end of the week. It's okay good when it's in the SF round where the likes of Monice, Amelie, Jelena and Jenny are fighting their guts out to get a spot to try to beat the Williams.

Oh, Anna. Well, I used to like watching her. But lately, her performance is just horrible. She tanked in the Canadian Open as well as the US Open. And seeing her makes me worry that she will again embarrass herself.

LOL, running a website forces you to know what's going on ;) But seriously, I only follow two players, Dani & Kim, so the rest I've just picked up from this board believe it or not.

I also don't like women's tennis, for reasons you gave :) Dominance is boring and that's what's going on right now.

And I've never liked Anna K. She brought to the sport what it needed least.

Layla
09-17-2002, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I have no idea, let me check.

She lost in the quarters at 's-Hertogenbosch to Tina. The most recent defeat by a Slovene came at Katarina Srebotnik's hands, in LA.

Ah, so both of them defeated her. Oooops. :o

I hope Kimmy will find her form soon. It breaks my heart to see her lose so much. :( But at least she seems to have the right attitude about it (or does she :confused: ). I love her post-match interviews.

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I hope Kimmy will find her form soon. It breaks my heart to see her lose so much. :( But at least she seems to have the right attitude about it (or does she :confused: ). I love her post-match interviews.

Well, from what I can tell, she has the right attitude. She's not angry at herself for losing so much--she knows she can't help it. And she's tried to take off as much as she can to rest her arm (which she BROKE at the Aussie Open this year) but their schedule is just like the men's--very demanding.

I think she turned in an impressive performance at the US Open after dismal results at RG & Wimbly. This is usually the time of year when she shines :). She has won the Princess Cup twice, the Sparkhassen Cup twice, and the Seat Open in Luxembourg 3 times. So hopefully she'll find her game in these last few months :)

Vera
09-17-2002, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Layla


I saw that match too. Poor Tommy completely fell apart. His shots weren't nearly deep or powerful enough and he was running around so much that he had to sit down between points once. I remember Andre waiting impatiently on the other end, not even slightly out of breath.


Oh, talking about someone didn't get out of breath. I'm amazed that Sjeng seems barely break a sweat after defeating Gonzo in USO, Gonzo was exhausted and Sjeng looks like he can go on forever. His game is so effortless is just incredible. Though I do think his service motion looks awe, but so does Gambill, IMO. And not everyone can serve like Goran, or Arthurs in that matter.

And I do dislike Andre for the fact the he did take joy on ridiculing his opponents by making them running endlessly. I mean, sometimes he have the whole court that he could just hit a winner and get the point, but he will make the guy runs back and forth a couple of time before hitting that winner. I don't know, maybe it's a good tactic, but I don't appreciate that.

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 12:06 AM
And, ::sigh::, I really need to head off and do some work tonight. Believe me, I'd rather be discussing tennis and Juan Carlos :drool: with you guys.

Oh, well. See you guys tomorrow :wavey:

Vera
09-17-2002, 12:08 AM
Okay, bye TH, have a great night. :wavey:

Layla
09-17-2002, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Vera


You guys are really true tennis fan, you seems to know everything about it. I've pretty much stop watching woman tennis. I don't know about the other, but I for one am not too keen of domination, it's too predictable in the beginning of the week and the end of the week. It's okay good when it's in the SF round where the likes of Monice, Amelie, Jelena and Jenny are fighting their guts out to get a spot to try to beat the Williams.

Oh, Anna. Well, I used to like watching her. But lately, her performance is just horrible. She tanked in the Canadian Open as well as the US Open. And seeing her makes me worry that she will again embarrass herself.

Oh you're exaggerating. I don't follow the WTA all that regularly either, but Tina and Maja are from Slovenia, and I like them a lot, so I like to know what's going on with them. I'm beginning to enjoy women's tennis more and more though. Of course I can't stand the dominance, we all agree on that. It's ultra-boring, but the rest of it can be interesting. I like to pretend that the Williams sisters are playing in a separate event - SVS - The Serena and Venus Show, so I just follow what goes on below them.

And you forgot to mention Lindsay! :D She's the main reason I watch more of the WTA now. She brought lots of sparks back to the game. I hope she can do great things. And I hope Martina is not completely out of the picture either.

Vera
09-17-2002, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Well, from what I can tell, she has the right attitude. She's not angry at herself for losing so much--she knows she can't help it. And she's tried to take off as much as she can to rest her arm (which she BROKE at the Aussie Open this year) but their schedule is just like the men's--very demanding.

I think she turned in an impressive performance at the US Open after dismal results at RG & Wimbly. This is usually the time of year when she shines :). She has won the Princess Cup twice, the Sparkhassen Cup twice, and the Seat Open in Luxembourg 3 times. So hopefully she'll find her game in these last few months :)

BTW, Kim is adorable. I'm glad that they have someone like her in WTA. I like Henin too, maybe bcos of her bad fortune is life (anytime someone lost a parent, I felt deeply for them) and her beautiful tennis. But she always looks so sad. Kim is like a sunshine, seems nothing can really shakes her belief that living is a blessing already.

Layla
09-17-2002, 12:12 AM
Good night TH and Vera! :wavey:

I have to go to bed too. See you tomorrow. :)

Vera
09-17-2002, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Layla


And you forgot to mention Lindsay! :D She's the main reason I watch more of the WTA now. She brought lots of sparks back to the game. I hope she can do great things. And I hope Martina is not completely out of the picture either.

Oops, I did forget to mention Lindsay. And in fact, I think the ranking from 3 down to 15 is all worth watching if they are playing against each other. But even if it's my most favorite player like Monica, I still don't like watching her playing the first few rounds. I mean, it's either she handing out bagels, or she hitting everything out and lost it to a lesser player. It really is no fun.

Vera
09-17-2002, 12:16 AM
Okay Layla. Thanks for the chat. Good nite. :wavey:

RogiFan
09-17-2002, 01:33 AM
;)

Funny, I was just watching that QF match between AA and Juanqui! Yes, AA was a jerk (but he often is) and I was SO glad that Juanqui beat him! About time! Seems only he and Hewitt (of the young guns) can beat AA. Juanqui was actually looking forward to playing and beating AA, so he wasn't intimidated nor in awe of AA -- good attitude! (My guy Rogi at least got one set off AA in Miami final but next time he just has to go out there and destroy! As for Haas, well, I couldn't bear to watch that Roma final -- he got his ass kicked big time!!)

What else -- yes, I know the systems are different around the world, more's the pity! As for the Tennis Channel -- we'll see what it has to offer -- what I'd really like to see is more of the European tourneys, esp. better claycourt matches and the smaller but interesting ones, i.e., Barcelona, Halle, Rosmalen, Gstaad, Kitz, Basel, etc.

Good night!

Leo7
09-17-2002, 02:23 AM
:wavey:

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by Vera
BTW, Kim is adorable. I'm glad that they have someone like her in WTA. I like Henin too, maybe bcos of her bad fortune is life (anytime someone lost a parent, I felt deeply for them) and her beautiful tennis. But she always looks so sad. Kim is like a sunshine, seems nothing can really shakes her belief that living is a blessing already.

Justine had to grow up fast, and I think her demeanor shows this. But you are right, it's nice to have Kimmy around. She is the nicest player on the tour (or at least, that's what everyone says) and she just seems to be one of those players who wouldn't mind posing for a picture or signing an autograph after her match. To contast, she is very into her matches when she's on court, not likely to lose her concentration. And as we've seen, she plays well on all surfaces and can be very dangerous when she's healthy. I just hope her arm heals or can be treated thoroughly before next year. It's been a big hamper ever since the Australian.

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by RogiFan
What else -- yes, I know the systems are different around the world, more's the pity! As for the Tennis Channel -- we'll see what it has to offer -- what I'd really like to see is more of the European tourneys, esp. better claycourt matches and the smaller but interesting ones, i.e., Barcelona, Halle, Rosmalen, Gstaad, Kitz, Basel, etc.

From what I've been reading, the Tennis Channel won't have the rights to the TMS or Grand Slam events, and whatever WTA tournaments are already being shown on ESPN, Fox, etc etc. So other tournaments would be shown, at least matches would be. Barcelona isn't very small anymore ;) And I agree, more clay court tennis!! It's my favorite style.

I hope it can deliever, because tennis coverage is so far under the radar right now that only we rabid fanatics can follow it with any accuracy :o;)

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 02:52 AM
Hey, Leo :wavey:

Leo7
09-17-2002, 02:52 AM
yes, i love Kimmy C! :hearts: she reached #3 in the world earlier this year, but sadly she is in danger of falling out the Top 10 now!:( so is my Lindsay!:(

Leo7
09-17-2002, 02:54 AM
hey Hackie :wavey:

i was just about to go. i have to finish my homeowrk still!lol! i guess that's what i get for waiting till the last minute!:(

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 02:55 AM
LOL!! I just finished mine :) Good luck with that.

See you tomorrow! :wavey:

Leo7
09-17-2002, 02:56 AM
:wavey: thanks

angele is here :eek:

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 02:57 AM
:eek: SPIES! :eek:

Chloe le Bopper
09-17-2002, 05:54 AM
How come no one ever wonders where I am when I don't post :p ;)?! :p ;) ;)


Hmmm...Tennischack you aren't the only who cheers for potential opponents. I do it with Ferrero all the time - most of the time I get the same coverage as you, which is American biased.

Imagine my joy when Ferrero played an American on center court Wimbledon second round - too bad it wasn't his day :)

Robredo, Grosjean etc I get to see them at Masters Series Canada every year, which is nice :) Well I saw them both this year anyhow.

They were both on court two - as was David Nalbandian - which meant I could stand at the wall and was about 8 feet from the lines on the court. Best deal there. Court one is pretty good to.. in fact anything that isn't center is a sweet deal.

As for Davis Cup this week -
I haven't looked into DC WG qualies all that much, but go Switzerland, Canada (it won't happen, but I can hope ;) ), and Thailand :D

As for the semis - Vive la France! Udachi Russia!

Leo7
09-17-2002, 11:40 AM
:wavey: Becca!

Layla
09-17-2002, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
How come no one ever wonders where I am when I don't post :p ;)?! :p ;) ;)


LOL Becca! Because we know you HAVE a life. :D Besides, you don't often chat with us in this thread ;) (which is a real shame if I may add :( ) and you do post elsewhere. :p

But seriously, I do miss you over here in the Juan Carlos Ferrero Forum. :( You used to be here more often. Maybe you should create a new thread about Juanqui to spice things up! ;)

Layla
09-17-2002, 12:47 PM
Hello everyone! http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/hidesbehindsofa.gif :wavey: http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/lookaround.gif

Is anyone here? Probably not...

I just read some disturbing news about the French DC team. Grosjean had some back problems and couldn't train for 2 days but says he feels better now. And Clement's wrist is still questionable. :(

Why is it that all 3 of my teams have injury problems? First Kafelnikov, then Greg and Tim and now Seb and Arnaud. :mad: Unbelievable. :rolleyes:

Layla
09-17-2002, 12:49 PM
Hehehe!

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 01:58 PM
Morning, Layla! :wavey:

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
How come no one ever wonders where I am when I don't post :p ;)?! :p ;) ;)

You, obviously, have a life :o ;) And so we're cheering for you from our little dork nest here. :)

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 02:03 PM
LOL at today's cartoon :)

Poor Frenchies :( I really hope the final isn't between the USA and Argentina, because that would suck. :(:sad:

I am prepared to forsake my country here and root for Russia to go all the way!! An American final appearance wouldn't be too bad, though ;)

RogiFan
09-17-2002, 02:45 PM
:)

France already won vs. the Aussies so they don't need to win again (and it was a heartbreaker for Pat Rafter :sad: ). Please, not USA! As for Russia, well, depends on how Yevy is physically and Marat is mentally... would be nice though. In my dream world, Switzerland would win :D but then I would probably wake up and all my dreams would go up in smoke... Don't underestimate the Argentines!

Dissident
09-17-2002, 02:49 PM
Nobody noticed I didnt post either. :sad: :o ;)
Hey people. All hail Guga the great! :p

Where have you been Becca? Why are you never on msn anymore? Always "Away". :(

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by hitman
Nobody noticed I didnt post either. :sad: :o ;)
Hey people. All hail Guga the great! :p


We figured YOU were having the time of your life following the Basil tourney. Or at least, I did.

And the "Guga the great" comment wouldn't endear you to this forum very much, either ;)

Basically, you and Becca are way too cool for us minions, and we have accepted this fate. We'll bask in your glory when you're around, but not mourn the loss of your presence.

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by RogiFan
In my dream world, Switzerland would win :D

Mmm, that's a nice dream. Rogi and Michel leading a team to victory :)

I really, really hope Jenya can hold onto his title hopes, though. Of course, I won't cry if he decides to play next year if they don't win it this year ;)

RogiFan
09-17-2002, 05:16 PM
:p

Actually, Rogi is in my dreams quite often...

Rogi as DC hero, just like Juanqui -- now wouldn't that be a dream!

So, why isn't there a Max forum? He has lots of fans, including me. Also, another question: why do nice guys often play each other, i.e., Max vs. Rogi? More yukky guys s/play each other so they can at least knock out one yukky element...

ILR
09-17-2002, 05:18 PM
lol Leo is campaigning hard for that Max forum! :) ;)

Layla
09-17-2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Poor Frenchies :( I really hope the final isn't between the USA and Argentina, because that would suck. :(:sad:


Oh gross!!! :eek: That's my worst DC nightmare. I aplogize to the fans of either country but those two are among my least favorite tennis nations at the moment. If James becomes the best American player I'll reconsider but until then...

Layla
09-17-2002, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by hitman
Nobody noticed I didnt post either. :sad: :o ;)
Hey people. All hail Guga the great! :p


Oh poor Hitman! http://www.plauder-smilies.de/pftroest.gif

Well, for my part, I wasn't here to notice it. :p But basically TH said it all so there's not much to add. I'm sure you had a fabulous time at the tourney, watching Guga win his first title of the year! :D And of course, all you could think about was how much you miss us... or how much we miss you... ;) You should have taken us with you. :)

Folks, from now on, anybody who finds a life is obligated to come back and rescue the rest of us as well! ;) Deal? :D

Layla
09-17-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by RogiFan
:p
So, why isn't there a Max forum? He has lots of fans, including me. Also, another question: why do nice guys often play each other, i.e., Max vs. Rogi? More yukky guys s/play each other so they can at least knock out one yukky element...

Amen to that RogiFan! :D All of that.

Vera
09-17-2002, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Layla


Folks, from now on, anybody who finds a life is obligated to come back and rescue the rest of us as well! ;) Deal? :D

Yeessss, pleaaaaassssssssse! :D :D :D

Layla
09-17-2002, 07:13 PM
LOL Vera! :) Hello! :wavey:

What are you up to?

Vera
09-17-2002, 07:47 PM
Hi Layla.

Surprisingly, it's sunny out there. I live in the West Coast and it rains as much as London, if not more. But I'm again sitting in front of my computer. I'm looking for a job, so I'm just on the net all the time looking for information, and occasionally :D :o peeks in here to see if anyone's on. :)

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 08:19 PM
I rather like our thread name. And if we posted in here a lot, it just advertises the fact that Max's fans don't have a forum, and they should. :) I think the admins have died, or are too busy trying to salvage WTAWorld, because no questions or comments have really been heeded in awhile.

Oh, well. We can always talk about Max here. Since the story moved out, we don't talk about Juanqui as much as we used to in this thread. Instead we talk about Rogi and Michel and whoever else is hott :lick: at the moment ;)

Layla
09-17-2002, 08:22 PM
Oh I remember Seattle very well. I've never seem the shade of gray that I saw one drizzling afternoon there. Quite gloomy. But I do actually want to move to Portland, Oregon. I love the West Coast (well I haven't seen the Canadian part) because of its spectacular rock formations (don't know what they're called). It's wild. And the crashing of the waves is really loud. Mmmm, this brings back memories...

I'm looking for a job too but the prospects are not too bright at the moment. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. :)

Layla
09-17-2002, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
I rather like our thread name. And if we posted in here a lot, it just advertises the fact that Max's fans don't have a forum, and they should. :) I think the admins have died, or are too busy trying to salvage WTAWorld, because no questions or comments have really been heeded in awhile.

Oh, well. We can always talk about Max here. Since the story moved out, we don't talk about Juanqui as much as we used to in this thread. Instead we talk about Rogi and Michel and whoever else is hott :lick: at the moment ;)

I agree. I love the new name. :) It really feels like home. Anyway, all the other threads are devoted to Juanqui, so this only fair that in this one we can (drool over) discuss other players as well. ;)

You might be right about the admins. But like you said, we can talk about Max in here. :)

TennisHack
09-17-2002, 08:39 PM
Hehehe, this is my desktop image right now. Zhenya is so cute sometimes :D

From the Kremlin Cup '98

Vera
09-17-2002, 08:42 PM
Hey thanks. Ya, things are still pretty bad still, in my trade anyway.

My sister lives in Seattle, she likes it there. But it rains more there than in BC. I've been to Portland too, surprisingly clean, as I remembered. But my fave is San Francisco, I went there so many times, but once summer I went for summer school and took all those film classes, those good old days were most memorable.

It rains a lot here in BC but believe me, it's absolutely gorgeous when it's not raining, i.e. in the summer. I like the ocean and mountains combination. The ski mountain is just half hour away from downtown. Well, I don't ski a lot but I sure do like go hiking in the summer.

Layla
09-17-2002, 08:45 PM
Awwwww that pic IS cute. He is embracing his trophy so lovingly. :)

Layla
09-17-2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Vera
It rains a lot here in BC but believe me, it's absolutely gorgeous when it's not raining, i.e. in the summer. I like the ocean and mountains combination. The ski mountain is just half hour away from downtown. Well, I don't ski a lot but I sure do like go hiking in the summer.

I love that combination too. It provides everything. I love swimming and skiing. Fortunately I can do both in my small country. :) Although skiing has become a bit too expensive for me.

Does any of you like winter sports? I can't wait for the season to start. There's a skiing thread in the WTAworld, but all they want to talk about is women and I prefer to watch men. (What a surprise ey? :rolleyes: :p ) I was thinking of starting a winter sports thread on the ATPworld as well, but I don't know if anyone is into that.

Vera
09-17-2002, 09:04 PM
Winter sports...well, what about ice hockey:bounce:

Okay, I'm hockey craze. But I don't know if anybody else is interested. But I do like other winter sports, though I don't follow them intensely. But I was glued to my TV set during Winter Olympics in Salt Lake.

Hockey season is almost here and I'm so excited.

BTW, anyone like Volleyball? not beachball but the indoor one. The Men World Championship is coming next week. But I'm upset that there's no TV coverage here.

Vera
09-17-2002, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Layla


I love that combination too. It provides everything. I love swimming and skiing. Fortunately I can do both in my small country. :) Although skiing has become a bit too expensive for me.

Does any of you like winter sports? I can't wait for the season to start. There's a skiing thread in the WTAworld, but all they want to talk about is women and I prefer to watch men. (What a surprise ey? :rolleyes: :p ) I was thinking of starting a winter sports thread on the ATPworld as well, but I don't know if anyone is into that.

We have lots of beaches here inside the city. Unfortunately, not too suitable for swimming because the water is very cold even in the summer. But it's ideal for windsurfing, a day like today, I'm sure lots of ppl will be out there windsurfing. I tried but I have a hard time pulling up that surf.

ILR
09-17-2002, 09:12 PM
Hmm we dont really get any coverage of winter sports but I did watch the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics.I watch ice hockey sometimes and my cousins in Canada play.

We are doing volleyball in PE but im really pathetic at it so I dont like it.I dont mind sitting on a beach watching lots of tanned foreign guys play it though......:hearts: :drool:

Vera
09-17-2002, 09:19 PM
Hi ILR. Lots of European plays hockey. I know that Kratochvil and George Bastl's dad both played hockey in N. America (that's how they introduced both of them in Wimbly). But Brits are not too into it, I guess. Besides the canadian, the best I think are the Russian and the Swede. Of course, I love the Swede because we have lots of them in our team and they are great!

I don't play volleyball often, I can't jump. But it's very exciting to watch. The beachball is good too, ony that the point is too short because there's too much empty space inside the court.

Layla
09-17-2002, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Winter sports...well, what about ice hockey:bounce:

Okay, I'm hockey craze. But I don't know if anybody else is interested. But I do like other winter sports, though I don't follow them intensely. But I was glued to my TV set during Winter Olympics in Salt Lake.

Hockey season is almost here and I'm so excited.

BTW, anyone like Volleyball? not beachball but the indoor one. The Men World Championship is coming next week. But I'm upset that there's no TV coverage here.

Well, I'm not too keen on Hockey. It seems too violent for me.

I watched almost every event of the Winter Olympics. I enjoyed that very much. Too bad the Olympic Games are only held every 4 years.

But then I miss clay courts so much. :sad: I can't believe how long I will have to wait before I see the beautiful red clay again.

No I don't follow Volleyball. There aren't any matches on TV. And I do prefer individual sports to team sports.

ILR
09-17-2002, 09:22 PM
Yeah I have volleyball tomorrow.I suck at it really.I dont understand the rotation system!god I sound really stupid......:o lol last time we played it when I hit it up,I bent my thumb back and it really hurt!
No I dont suppose us Brits do play ice hockey much,I have no idea why though.